Speaker 1: The Flex and Frooms Daily podcast brought you.
Speaker 2: Ellie Sweety Pies, Flex and Frooms Podcast. Today we're talking
Speaker 2: about whether or not Kendall Jenner really did jack the content, style,
Speaker 2: flair and shutzpa of this tsar shittzpa. But isn't like
Speaker 2: a ch that's like of this internet TikToker. I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess you're just a regular tiktoko on the Internet.
Speaker 2: The thing is, I feel like it's entirely possible because
Speaker 2: I think that all celebrities are referential their mood boards.
Speaker 2: There's a sum of everything that's called on the Internet
Speaker 2: at any given point, and I think that there's not
Speaker 2: enough time the day for someone who's like doing stuff
Speaker 2: to be original.
Speaker 3: Where is us tip pretty tapering away at the TikTok
Speaker 3: not much to do, and if we do, we're procrastinating.
Speaker 3: Speaking for myself, also, I'm going to talk about a
Speaker 3: alleged copycat scenario that I was emboiled in featuring Dua Lipa,
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yes and no like no bad press.
Speaker 3: I'm a do a fan. Future nostalgia was full of slaps.
Speaker 3: Let's get a.
Speaker 1: Sucking flex and firms.
Speaker 2: I am flex, and I also could be potentially highly
Speaker 2: likely responsible for the fact that Starburst is discontinued in Australia.
Speaker 2: That sounds like I'm being dramatic. I don't want to
Speaker 2: take this on, but I think that I have to.
Speaker 2: And in order for you to understand how this all
Speaker 2: came to be, we must go back to twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: What a year.
Speaker 2: What a year, so many things going wrong with the world.
Speaker 2: And I had no idea that when I'd trotted my
Speaker 2: way down to the corner store and buy myself a
Speaker 2: bag of Starburst or Pink chees I would be met
Speaker 2: with what I could only describe as a disappointment. The
Speaker 2: flavor was different, and not just the flavor, the consistency,
Speaker 2: the texture. And I thought to myself, well, maybe you
Speaker 2: haven't had Starbursts properly in about seven years or so.
Speaker 2: Your taste buds maybe of change. Then you're not used
Speaker 2: to you know what it tastes like these days. But
Speaker 2: I thought, mmm, now something's up. Because the packaging is different.
Speaker 2: Number one, the branding is different. It was a bag
Speaker 2: of all pink Starbursts. That's some new stuff. They didn't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 3: Like that before.
Speaker 2: And number three, the consistency of the starburst felt a
Speaker 2: lot more glossy and waxy, almost as though there was
Speaker 2: like the oil from the little punishment was transferring. Something
Speaker 2: was off like a Zappo kind of like that, but
Speaker 2: juicier like usually so was a bit dry anyway, So
Speaker 2: how did it? I have not have been for COVID
Speaker 2: and just having a lot more time to like mull
Speaker 2: on the.
Speaker 3: Details of life.
Speaker 2: I was like, let me just ask Starburst if the
Speaker 2: flavor has changed or the formula. That felt like a
Speaker 2: very genuine common thing to do. So I turned to
Speaker 2: the back of the packet.
Speaker 3: I saw the.
Speaker 2: Hotline number and I called it and I thought, well,
Speaker 2: let's just film it. People will want to know because
Speaker 2: I did ask the internet. And they said, yeah, tastes different,
Speaker 2: tastes different. Yeah, the formula change, Yeah, it went from
Speaker 2: vegan to vegetarian. No, from vegetario vegan. I was okay,
Speaker 2: first of all, either all of you are lying or
Speaker 2: you but I need to figure out the truth. So
Speaker 2: I called the hotline and they said to me, look,
Speaker 2: nothing has changed, like it's the exact same starbursts you
Speaker 2: know and love. Nothing has changed. I thought, okay, cool,
Speaker 2: hung up. Called again. They said, actually yeah, we have
Speaker 2: moved from a vegetarian friendly formula to a vegan formula,
Speaker 2: So that could be some of the tastes you know,
Speaker 2: that you're tasting, or the difference in taste.
Speaker 3: Hung up, called again.
Speaker 2: They said, we've never changed the formula where vegetarian friendly,
Speaker 2: we're not vegan. And perhaps the reason why it tastes
Speaker 2: different is because when it moved from the manufacturing plant
Speaker 2: to your supermarket, maybe it got really hot and so
Speaker 2: it started to like, you know, congeal or the format change,
Speaker 2: and as it cooled down and re solidified. Maybe that
Speaker 2: was the issue. That sounds about right it does. But
Speaker 2: also I called three times in the span of three days.
Speaker 2: Why am I getting three different answers? What if I
Speaker 2: was vegan?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: So here's where it gets really, really really sus I
Speaker 2: go on the website and I say, let me just
Speaker 2: hit up a PR contact for Mars Wrigley.
Speaker 3: What's the big deal? You know?
Speaker 2: I get in contact with them. I don't want to
Speaker 2: out anyone, no names, no titles. But their tone was
Speaker 2: kind of like, what do you need the information for?
Speaker 2: Where are you taking this? What are you doing with it?
Speaker 2: Why are you asking? And I said Okay, that's really odd.
Speaker 2: If nothing had changed, you would just tell me. So
Speaker 2: clearly something's changed, and you don't want to tell people
Speaker 2: about it, and you're going around making it seem like
Speaker 2: you're vegan and you're leed Lolly your choice, when really
Speaker 2: you're not. Something's off and I could imagine from their
Speaker 2: point of view, what's this blueticker trying to do? Why
Speaker 2: is she seeking this information? And because at the time
Speaker 2: I was posting this exclusively to my paywall subscription content Instagram,
Speaker 2: which means that they couldn't see. But then I noticed
Speaker 2: that two people from Mars Wrigley signed up to my
Speaker 2: close friends at the time because I got their emails,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, you on your time.
Speaker 3: It wasn't even meant to be like this. It's been fun.
Speaker 2: So anyway, by the end of about a one week period,
Speaker 2: I came to realize that I was never going to
Speaker 2: get the real information and everyone just had to tread carefully.
Speaker 2: If you were vegan and wanted to eat starbursts, you know,
Speaker 2: do so at your own risk. We figured out that
Speaker 2: perhaps what was happening is that the starburst we know
Speaker 2: and love was imported from America. Because when I eat
Speaker 2: American starbursts, and I had people bring me American starburst.
Speaker 2: Long story, won't get into it. That tasted like the
Speaker 2: og stuff. This new stuff made imported from somewhere else
Speaker 2: tastes different. I don't know, because it's like an ingredient
Speaker 2: that's taken out. Whatever it might be.
Speaker 1: I let that rest.
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I've done my due diligence
Speaker 2: as a consumer and as a part time investigative journalist.
Speaker 2: It's time it does. It's time to let it go.
Speaker 2: I don't want any problems. Right Then, two years later,
Speaker 2: almost to the date, Why am I getting tagged, bombarded
Speaker 2: with messaging that Starburst is being discontinued? Why because of
Speaker 2: supply chain issues?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, hold on, okay, hold on, because you said
Speaker 2: nothing had changed, So what has happened?
Speaker 3: No? Were their eyes on the warehouses?
Speaker 2: Now? Were we like cross referencing and something was wrong?
Speaker 2: All I want to say is tell the truth.
Speaker 3: And do you know what?
Speaker 2: This all comes back down to the myth of authenticity culture.
Speaker 2: Take me back to twenty ten when you couldn't ask
Speaker 2: companies anything. Yeah, facts, you gave me this illusion of openness.
Speaker 2: I took advantage of it. No, I didn't even take advantage.
Speaker 2: It was my right to seek information. Now I'm seeking information.
Speaker 2: Now I'm the problem. Now I'm the reason that we
Speaker 2: can't eat starburs in Australia.
Speaker 3: That's very upsetting because as you talk about this, I
Speaker 3: really want a pink one. So they're completely not on
Speaker 3: the shelves anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, obviously like stores will have the leftover stock the
Speaker 2: current stock, but it's no longer being made as of June,
Speaker 2: so you know, get where you can. And they're even
Speaker 2: being sold on eBay for like thirty bucks a pop now,
Speaker 2: so try and get the American version.
Speaker 3: Had a friend drop them off to the office just
Speaker 3: recently because you need my figs. I want one.
Speaker 2: But whether I did or didn't do, I think either way,
Speaker 2: I'm learning that any press is good press, and so
Speaker 2: I will be spooking this.
Speaker 3: And doxing further brands. Ah, if you're not going to
Speaker 3: pay anything influence of content.
Speaker 2: It is what it is to be dragged be where
Speaker 2: I'll release the case study sooner or later, a little written,
Speaker 2: one pager. This is my experience discontinuing Star Best, as
Speaker 2: told by Professor.
Speaker 1: Flex Flex and frooms.
Speaker 3: FLEXI yes, looked at this TikTok the other day. Came
Speaker 3: up on the for you page.
Speaker 2: What's your screen timelight on tiki?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens like once a week. Okay, good, four hours, great,
Speaker 3: And it's so good because I get so much stuff
Speaker 3: for this show, so it's essentially like it's research. It
Speaker 3: is research.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: This, uh, the woman that came up my for you page.
Speaker 3: She's got red hair and green eyes, which is my
Speaker 3: favorite combination. What about a name? Oh, her name Jackie
Speaker 3: Murray Smith. She had a blue shaak, so she's serious. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And essentially she's talking about a little bit of I
Speaker 3: wouldn't call it beef, but a situation that's going down
Speaker 3: with Kendall Jenna.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play theory for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 4: It all started when Kendall died her hair red. I
Speaker 4: made a complete joke that she obviously got her inspiration
Speaker 4: from me. It's a similar color red to my hair.
Speaker 4: And I made a TikTok saying she must have seen
Speaker 4: me at the Sun's game because I was picked to
Speaker 4: play a game. I went on the jumbo Tron and
Speaker 4: Kendall watches all the Sun's games because her boyfriend Devin
Speaker 4: Booker plays for the Suns, and she's also confirmed many
Speaker 4: times that she watches every game no matter what. Now,
Speaker 4: that video was completely satire. However, shortly after that, I
Speaker 4: had posted this outfit and then Kendall posted this, and
Speaker 4: so I was like, oh my gosh, it's so similar.
Speaker 1: Like I have to run with the joke.
Speaker 3: It's just funny, you know.
Speaker 4: So I made another TikTok being like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: I didn't even say anything. I just put this pictures
Speaker 3: side by side.
Speaker 4: It became a fun little inside joke on my page.
Speaker 4: People would tagged me in videos of her and be like, wait,
Speaker 4: I thought that was you because we had.
Speaker 1: Similar hair and outfits.
Speaker 4: Kendall posted this photo of her around the fourth of July,
Speaker 4: and I had posted this photo a while ago, similar pose,
Speaker 4: you know, the hat. I put the photo side by
Speaker 4: side on my Instagram story.
Speaker 1: It had been a while since, like a similarity.
Speaker 4: It had happened, and I just thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: And then something weird happened.
Speaker 4: An hour later.
Speaker 3: This photo was gone.
Speaker 4: It still, she thought, all the other photos in the
Speaker 4: photop except she had just deleted this photo.
Speaker 3: I'm going to stop it there, but there's far more
Speaker 3: instances that she puts on the TikTok. There's a bit
Speaker 3: where she put she got her nails with a cherry
Speaker 3: on them, and then Kendall put a cherry in her
Speaker 3: Instagram caption. Yeah, so it got me thinking, would Kendall
Speaker 3: Jenna see what this woman is posting a would she
Speaker 3: copy it or see? Is she just playing along with
Speaker 3: the joke because she's seeing this internet chat?
Speaker 2: So the question is, is Kendall Jenna copying JC or Jackie's
Speaker 2: Jackie Smith? The likelihood is quite high.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: I feel as though people assume that celebrities of that
Speaker 2: caliber must be tastemakers. But the thing about celebrity, it's
Speaker 2: all referential. It's all coming from somewhere someplace else and
Speaker 2: being delivered to them. It's in their best interest to
Speaker 2: be top of the pops, right. So the same way
Speaker 2: a regular person is looking at Pinterest to see what
Speaker 2: people are wearing, celebrities too are doing the same thing.
Speaker 3: But is it the celebrities or is it the celebrity stylists?
Speaker 2: Well, it depends because I feel as though it would
Speaker 2: be remiss to not think that celebrities use the Internet
Speaker 2: as people do, right, Like everyone knows Beyonce's a finster
Speaker 2: that sheh yeah, how many followers who.
Speaker 3: Knows we don't have them?
Speaker 2: I have no doubt there's a group chat with like
Speaker 2: her agent, her manager, stylist or whatever being like oh
Speaker 2: this is cute, or like let's take that third the
Speaker 2: next time when we do some eight one eight promo,
Speaker 2: like here's some inspo for that, he's a mood board whatever,
Speaker 2: Like I think it's really casual. But I think that
Speaker 2: because this person's quite a big influencer, it only makes
Speaker 2: sense that you would look to someone who's posting regularly
Speaker 2: for regular content inspo. If it was a regular no
Speaker 2: blue tick person, I'd be like, mm.
Speaker 3: It with TikTok likely possible.
Speaker 2: But a blue ticker who's probably all over Pinterest and
Speaker 2: all over Instagram, it is not unlikely. And also because
Speaker 2: she's been able to track instances where you know, like
Speaker 2: Hayley Bieber follows her, okay, come on now. As if
Speaker 2: it's not on the mood board, I think the thing
Speaker 2: about it now is that the Jackie original influencer is
Speaker 2: calling it out. It makes Kendall look like less of
Speaker 2: a taste maker and that's not good for optics.
Speaker 3: I think that's how it started. And now Kendall's taking
Speaker 3: the piss and he's like in on the joke to
Speaker 3: make it look like she was never copying the first place,
Speaker 3: but she was like playing along and trying to interact
Speaker 3: with fans in a COVID way. I do think as well,
Speaker 3: there is a misconception around celebrities that they have more
Speaker 3: protection and more money and more stuff that they actually don't.
Speaker 2: Have, for example, separation from the public exactly.
Speaker 3: I was listening to a podcast with Lily Allen and
Speaker 3: she was saying how she didn't have security guards and
Speaker 3: people wondered why because she had a stalker and she
Speaker 3: was getting the police to help around and people with
Speaker 3: those A four or being like you should like get
Speaker 3: your own you can clearly afford it, and she's like,
Speaker 3: I don't have that amount of money literally, And.
Speaker 2: That's hard to admit as well, I mean, is it
Speaker 2: hard to I yeah, I think it becomes harder to
Speaker 2: admit because celebrity is really complicit in how they're viewed
Speaker 2: by the public, like they just let the narratives go
Speaker 2: when they're favorable, and then absolutely it's very rare what
Speaker 2: a celebrity controls the narrative. They're relying on the Internet
Speaker 2: to control it for them by giving them fodder and
Speaker 2: if it gets out of hand, and only when it
Speaker 2: gets out of hand will they step in.
Speaker 3: Which is I think regular people do that too. What's
Speaker 3: your point? My point is that it's not They're not
Speaker 3: being bad in doing that, Like, no complicit in anything
Speaker 3: that's untoward.
Speaker 2: No, it's just the way of it though, So someone
Speaker 2: like it reminds you when Sidney Sweeney, who is Cassie
Speaker 2: and Euphoria, did a interview recently and she said, you know,
Speaker 2: like I have to choose between She's like, I can't
Speaker 2: afford to not take a break now because I've brought
Speaker 2: a house, and like I literally need to keep taking jobs,
Speaker 2: taking jobs, taking jobs, because she was getting criticism that
Speaker 2: she was doing too much influencer work, and she was like, well,
Speaker 2: how did you gonna make money?
Speaker 3: Like I need to? And everyone's like, well, you.
Speaker 2: Should manage your money better, or you shouldn't have bought
Speaker 2: a house, or you shouldn't do this, and she's like,
Speaker 2: this is my first big break of coause I want
Speaker 2: to buy the house. This money may ever come again,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to, like, you know, get my clout up,
Speaker 2: get the money right before it's gone forever. Everyone's like
Speaker 2: she just manages her money poorly. I'm like, this guy
Speaker 2: doesn't have any money, Like you think A twenty four
Speaker 2: is giving every single cast member a million dollar deals.
Speaker 3: No, no, but I you know, i'd think that without
Speaker 3: hearing that. So it's good to hear it from the
Speaker 3: horse's mouth. Yeah, bloody dummy, I do. I do wonder though,
Speaker 3: if saying that you didn't make as much money then
Speaker 3: makes frands think you're worthless. Like, it's very much a
Speaker 3: fine balance, Yeah, talking about money when you're an influm
Speaker 3: or celebrity. So I'm going to keep an eye on
Speaker 3: this Kendall Jenner situation. I think it's very interesting. I
Speaker 3: would like to hope that she's taking the piss, but
Speaker 3: also it's nice to know they sometimes see the blue tickers. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just think this stuff is happening all the time.
Speaker 3: I also do have a conspiracy theory that you will
Speaker 3: leave par copy my haircut after I interviewed her in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty. Oh yeah, one hundred percent. We didn't end it.
Speaker 3: She had her like hair with the brown hair and
Speaker 3: the like front blonde streaks, and I had little like
Speaker 3: I was wearing space buns and this tiny little art
Speaker 3: whole fringe and the interview didn't go very well in
Speaker 3: what way that's not on me, but it's not on her.
Speaker 3: It was just awkward, like the sound wasn't right and
Speaker 3: there was all these virtual No it was in real life. Oh,
Speaker 3: it was like my last interview before COVID, and there
Speaker 3: was an awkward vibe in the room and my like
Speaker 3: questions weren't really landing. It was meant to be jovial
Speaker 3: and chill, but I was asking allegit questions about the music.
Speaker 3: But we just got off on the wrong foot. If
Speaker 3: you could watch the whole twenty minute footage, you'd probably
Speaker 3: pass away. I have some sort of heart attack response.
Speaker 2: But everybody has one bad interview.
Speaker 3: Then one or two months later, she debuts little art
Speaker 3: home fringe with the bleach bond hair. How does that
Speaker 3: make you feel? I thought, yes, slay like, she says
Speaker 3: a good queen and she follows the queen's behavior. I'll
Speaker 3: get a photo later. Yeah, give us the reference.
Speaker 2: I personally think it's nothing special when celebrities copy, because
Speaker 2: they don't have enough time to be original and unique.
Speaker 3: There's too much money on the line. They just need to.
Speaker 2: Track what's popping and elevate it in the best way possible.
Speaker 2: And then track what's popping and elevate in the best
Speaker 2: way possible, and hopefully they don't get caught doing it.
Speaker 2: But if they do, the best they can do is
Speaker 2: make a joke of it. I just refuse to believe
Speaker 2: that Kendall jen is that funny though, like she's are
Speaker 2: you working? Hey? You got time to do inside conspiracies
Speaker 2: with the fans.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Nobody wants to work these dates. Nobody
Speaker 3: wants to work these things anyway. Get the picky for us. No no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no no no no, phone down.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: If I told you I found an Internet post of
Speaker 2: the world's least hated celebrities, what kind of celebrities do
Speaker 2: you feel beyond that list?
Speaker 3: Comedians that never offend anyone? Okay, women who are pretty
Speaker 3: and also have a slight sense of humor, but not
Speaker 3: such a sense of humor like Jennifer Lawrence style just
Speaker 3: a bit quirky. Milikounis for sure on the list. Okay, yep,
Speaker 3: Ashton Kutcher on the list.
Speaker 2: He doesn't shower, so what his reputations changed recently because
Speaker 2: he doesn't shower a lot, so the internet's like a
Speaker 2: bit off him.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, sorry, I want to me these names. Okay,
Speaker 3: do you want the spoiler a lot first? Yeah? Sure?
Speaker 2: There are all old white people, every single one, men
Speaker 2: and women.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank goodness.
Speaker 2: But I said, come on now, there is just no way,
Speaker 2: is it, because their digital footprint isn't on the Internet,
Speaker 2: and that's why you think you like them.
Speaker 3: So sure you throw Samuel L. Jackson in there.
Speaker 2: He's not in there. He's not in there. Yeah, no ethnics, bame,
Speaker 2: We've got Steve BISHEMI yeah, facts okay, Hugh Laurie had
Speaker 2: to google that one since forgotten and that is no shade. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're just in different demographics. Oh house, Oh nah, I
Speaker 2: don't like him, but maybe you don't like his character.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like the character.
Speaker 2: Brendan Fraser had a tough time in Hollywood.
Speaker 3: Oh honey. Yeah, Julie Andrews, I feel like that is
Speaker 3: a sound of music.
Speaker 2: Yep, sound of music. Princess Diaries, Mary Poppins Bridgeton Minions.
Speaker 3: Very classic British style American celebrities.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing I'm seeing a trend here, Alan Rickman, Snake,
Speaker 2: professor snag.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a vibe. Dame Judy Dench, Where's Dame Medna?
Speaker 3: I feel like they're on the other side of the
Speaker 3: spectrum lately. What does that mean? Oh, they've wander a
Speaker 3: bit of fire lately in this new generation, but they
Speaker 3: really loved.
Speaker 2: And then we have Maggie Smith.
Speaker 3: I don't know that. Oh, I think it's another Harry
Speaker 3: Potter one. What is this list?
Speaker 2: I honestly feel like it's just a bunch of people
Speaker 2: with a very little digital footprint or who their fame
Speaker 2: was kind of peaking in a time where their character
Speaker 2: and what their character meant to the world meant more
Speaker 2: to people than what they were actually Like mm, everyone
Speaker 2: just projecting these positive qualities because the characters.
Speaker 3: Were really good totally, and I think they all exemplify
Speaker 3: what the absolute peak of being in that generation, like
Speaker 3: the goodness of it. Like Julie Andrews played this beautiful
Speaker 3: woman that was nice around children in Sound of Music.
Speaker 2: Mary Poppins, Yeah, whatever she was, she was wholesome.
Speaker 3: I think all of these actors have something whatever it
Speaker 3: is was, I'll justify. It's such a boring list.
Speaker 2: I refuse to say that if you didn't go through
Speaker 2: every single person, there'd be something to hate. How they're
Speaker 2: the least hate it. I just don't feel like it's accurate.
Speaker 2: And then the so the justifications.
Speaker 3: Why hm, see I'm trying to justifications.
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, you know, I saw a really
Speaker 2: great picture of him doing a food drive, Like I
Speaker 2: wasn't pr you know what I'm saying, Oh you know,
Speaker 2: I heard a really great story, like you know, he
Speaker 2: didn't get his first luxury car until he was sixty,
Speaker 2: Like he's so humble.
Speaker 3: And it was a Porsche that it was much more
Speaker 3: about him than I.
Speaker 2: Feel as though when we're looking at people who were
Speaker 2: hated on the internet or receive a lot of criticism,
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes it's for the most obscure, minor stuff,
Speaker 2: right like you know, they they you know, it didn't
Speaker 2: seem as funny as they used to be, or like
Speaker 2: they started whatever it might be. And then you find
Speaker 2: these people who have been touted least hated, and this
Speaker 2: is what you're giving me, not even some good reasons.
Speaker 2: And it's got beef with Reddit and I think we
Speaker 2: should make our own list.
Speaker 3: Sure, I like that it's least hated. I don't want
Speaker 3: to go in ten people. Oh no, not at all.
Speaker 2: At least hated is a good place to start. And
Speaker 2: I want to get real, like real create with it,
Speaker 2: not just I saw them do a good thing that
Speaker 2: could have been pr pr You know.
Speaker 1: This is flex and Frooms on Kita FLEXI.
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you a story that I'm sure
Speaker 3: it's going to disturb you. I'm ready, it's going to
Speaker 3: rattle you, and you're going to walk away lesser in
Speaker 3: the mind than you were when you came standard practice,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So this is from Reddit
Speaker 3: and it's under the relationship's problems are sub Reddit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to read it to you. Thank you.
Speaker 3: My boyfriend and I have been dating for almost four months.
Speaker 3: Is that a boyfriend? Friend? And I've never had a
Speaker 3: problem with him, no red flags, nothing so far. He's
Speaker 3: been an amazing boyfriend and I'm super happy. Although he
Speaker 3: has this weird relationship with taking a dump And this
Speaker 3: goes back to sixth and seventh grade. How old are they? Oh,
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, shouldn't say it I'm going to say,
Speaker 3: like eighteen, if you're talking about six and seventh grade,
Speaker 3: and you can delineate which's with you're under the age
Speaker 3: of twenty. And she said, I didn't know him at
Speaker 3: this time. I just know the stories that he's told me.
Speaker 3: He used to post a lot of bathroom picks and
Speaker 3: being in the bathroom and was This was a recurring
Speaker 3: theme in his Instagram posts for a while. To clarify
Speaker 3: it wasn't his shit, just him in the bathroom, nothing
Speaker 3: bad selfies and what not. He admits it was cringing, weird.
Speaker 3: He has all these posts deleted fast toward sometime and
Speaker 3: we're dating now and we call each other almost every day,
Speaker 3: and I believe there's been two times that he's used
Speaker 3: the bathroom on call and he's never admitted to it,
Speaker 3: which I relate often. I'm on zoom, putting it on pause,
Speaker 3: doing a little twinkle.
Speaker 2: One of our first zooms together in a professional context
Speaker 2: for me, was troudown on the toilet, fishing for toilet paper,
Speaker 2: trying to wipe did not obscure. I got the side
Speaker 2: that I didn't get full crutch. But she's not immune
Speaker 2: to this behavior.
Speaker 3: If you ever get sick of me. Just call HR.
Speaker 3: Hope you took some screenshots get us both fired. But
Speaker 3: recently he asked if I want to see a picture
Speaker 3: of his shit, and honestly, I should have expected he
Speaker 3: would actually send a pick. He said he was really
Speaker 3: proud of it, and then it looks perfect good for him.
Speaker 3: Then two days later we're on a call again and
Speaker 3: he just goes quiet and says, sorry, I was just
Speaker 3: admiring these shits I left in the toilet. Someone left.
Speaker 3: It's a phantom pou ghost got it. And she goes
Speaker 3: in capitals, I'm sorry, what flush the shit? Oh my god?
Speaker 3: I tell him it's a little weird, and he doesn't
Speaker 3: really care. We kind of move on, and so far
Speaker 3: there hasn't been anything shit related. I know it's only
Speaker 3: an erk about my boyfriend, and I honestly hope this
Speaker 3: doesn't turn into an issue.
Speaker 2: A love that word differentiate between erk's IX and red flags.
Speaker 3: This is totally a difference. I could do a whole
Speaker 3: segment on that. What is an erk? An erk is
Speaker 3: like something petty that's not related to the relationship, like
Speaker 3: an ierk is like something that people say, isn't that
Speaker 3: an ick? No? So a erk is like you say
Speaker 3: the word what's the word? You say alas, you say
Speaker 3: alass and it pisces me off. Okay, then an but
Speaker 3: you're still attracted to me. Yeah, it's just a nerd like.
Speaker 3: Regardless of who says it, it's pissed me off. It
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be you got it. An ick is
Speaker 3: when someone you own a relationship with does something that
Speaker 3: doesn't logically make sense about it being gross, but.
Speaker 2: It gives you the dick. Yes, okay, I understand.
Speaker 3: And then a red flag is a red fig Yeah,
Speaker 3: needs no introduction, but that's been something is obvious. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she wants to know. Is it weird that her boyfriend
Speaker 3: does this? Is it cause for concern?
Speaker 2: I'm doing that thing where my body is trying not
Speaker 2: to fracture under the pressure of what's gone on in
Speaker 2: this room.
Speaker 3: Every time I can relate to this king. Sometimes we
Speaker 3: do a pooh, so either perfect enormous my personal one.
Speaker 3: If I do a pooh of this color but that
Speaker 3: I'm about to describe to you, I must take a photo,
Speaker 3: whether or not I send that on. Have you previously
Speaker 3: shared and distributed poop photos? Well, okay, I've got a
Speaker 3: friend I'm not going to dock, sir. Okay, But she
Speaker 3: often sends your pictures of a pooh. We also have
Speaker 3: photos together of her wiping and showing me showing you
Speaker 3: what the toilet, what's on the toilet paper?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: What would what? For what reason? Because she's like a
Speaker 3: really beautiful, like stylish woman, she will wipe it and
Speaker 3: show me the.
Speaker 2: But what would be on the toilet paper that pooh?
Speaker 3: Yeah? But why would you need to see that? Because
Speaker 3: it's interesting. It's like whack, it's disgusting. It's totally pushing
Speaker 3: the boundaries. It's arm wack. It's disgusting.
Speaker 2: It's totally pushing the boundaries.
Speaker 3: Okay, wohole, But he would love it. He's turning in
Speaker 3: his grave thinking. You ask me, Sleigh, I can relate
Speaker 3: to this. Sometimes you do a pooh that snakes from
Speaker 3: the top of the bowl right down through into the
Speaker 3: curvy bit of the toilet. How many send me? As
Speaker 3: we talking forty centimeters? What it comes out of you
Speaker 3: like a soft serve? Like yeah, perfect.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever done a poop longer than
Speaker 2: ten centimeters, So you need to emil fiber. Maybe you
Speaker 2: haven't experience joining until we've done one of these poohs
Speaker 2: snakes brown snak.
Speaker 3: Do I think it's gross of him to do that?
Speaker 3: I think it's inappropriate to send someone a Pooh pick
Speaker 3: unless you give them warning because you don't know what
Speaker 3: they're doing at that moment. PEPs, they're eating chocolate. Consent
Speaker 3: is everything? Consent is, yeah, totally. They're eating a mars bar.
Speaker 3: You know you don't want to see a picture of
Speaker 3: a poo when you're chowing down on a king sized
Speaker 3: Mars bar. You don't. But do I think he's allowed
Speaker 3: to do this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You would take pride like why is why does poop
Speaker 3: have to be so disgusting? Yes, it's poisonous if you
Speaker 3: congest it, but.
Speaker 2: Let's desigmatize pooh. I get what you're saying completely. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't support you, but I will stand beside.
Speaker 3: You know who shaming in the studio. I will say
Speaker 3: though we're in the comments.
Speaker 2: We started off this message with the girlfriend declaring that
Speaker 2: they've been boyfriend and girlfen for four months, and this
Speaker 2: is what happens at the four month mark. We start
Speaker 2: to humanize each other and one party always takes it
Speaker 2: too far. I mean, first integrating the farting, No.
Speaker 3: Go on opening the door when a pooh, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't want to quit conversation. I'll do it. Open up
Speaker 3: p ah, of course.
Speaker 2: Little twinkle tinkle wait, twinkle yeah, twinkle No, I think
Speaker 2: I said twinkle last tinkle A little tinkle tinkle tinkle,
Speaker 2: not a big deal. I understand you might burn more often,
Speaker 2: you might like hack up some slammers, you're coughing, and
Speaker 2: these things happen. This is make or break period four
Speaker 2: months mark. You're seeing the full picture with clear eyes.
Speaker 2: Do you like what you see? Are you down for
Speaker 2: the long haul?
Speaker 3: She seems like a pretty relaxed person, so I think
Speaker 3: she can handle it. Others this might be the breaking
Speaker 3: point for sure. She's better than me, and I mean it.
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