WEBVTT - Are These The Least Hated Celebs Ever? 📷👸🎥

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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Frooms Daily podcast brought you.

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<v Speaker 2>Ellie Sweety Pies, Flex and Frooms Podcast. Today we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about whether or not Kendall Jenner really did jack the content, style,

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<v Speaker 2>flair and shutzpa of this tsar shittzpa. But isn't like

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<v Speaker 2>a ch that's like of this internet TikToker. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you're just a regular tiktoko on the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is, I feel like it's entirely possible because

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<v Speaker 2>I think that all celebrities are referential their mood boards.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a sum of everything that's called on the Internet

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<v Speaker 2>at any given point, and I think that there's not

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<v Speaker 2>enough time the day for someone who's like doing stuff

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<v Speaker 2>to be original.

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<v Speaker 3>Where is us tip pretty tapering away at the TikTok

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<v Speaker 3>not much to do, and if we do, we're procrastinating.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking for myself, also, I'm going to talk about a

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<v Speaker 3>alleged copycat scenario that I was emboiled in featuring Dua Lipa,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, yes and no like no bad press.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a do a fan. Future nostalgia was full of slaps.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get a.

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<v Speaker 1>Sucking flex and firms.

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<v Speaker 2>I am flex, and I also could be potentially highly

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<v Speaker 2>likely responsible for the fact that Starburst is discontinued in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like I'm being dramatic. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>take this on, but I think that I have to.

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<v Speaker 2>And in order for you to understand how this all

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<v Speaker 2>came to be, we must go back to twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>What a year.

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<v Speaker 2>What a year, so many things going wrong with the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had no idea that when I'd trotted my

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<v Speaker 2>way down to the corner store and buy myself a

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<v Speaker 2>bag of Starburst or Pink chees I would be met

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<v Speaker 2>with what I could only describe as a disappointment. The

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<v Speaker 2>flavor was different, and not just the flavor, the consistency,

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<v Speaker 2>the texture. And I thought to myself, well, maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't had Starbursts properly in about seven years or so.

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<v Speaker 2>Your taste buds maybe of change. Then you're not used

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<v Speaker 2>to you know what it tastes like these days. But

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, mmm, now something's up. Because the packaging is different.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, the branding is different. It was a bag

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<v Speaker 2>of all pink Starbursts. That's some new stuff. They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that before.

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<v Speaker 2>And number three, the consistency of the starburst felt a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more glossy and waxy, almost as though there was

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<v Speaker 2>like the oil from the little punishment was transferring. Something

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<v Speaker 2>was off like a Zappo kind of like that, but

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<v Speaker 2>juicier like usually so was a bit dry anyway, So

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<v Speaker 2>how did it? I have not have been for COVID

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<v Speaker 2>and just having a lot more time to like mull

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<v Speaker 2>on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Details of life.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, let me just ask Starburst if the

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<v Speaker 2>flavor has changed or the formula. That felt like a

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<v Speaker 2>very genuine common thing to do. So I turned to

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the packet.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw the.

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<v Speaker 2>Hotline number and I called it and I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just film it. People will want to know because

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<v Speaker 2>I did ask the internet. And they said, yeah, tastes different,

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<v Speaker 2>tastes different. Yeah, the formula change, Yeah, it went from

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<v Speaker 2>vegan to vegetarian. No, from vegetario vegan. I was okay,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, either all of you are lying or

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<v Speaker 2>you but I need to figure out the truth. So

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<v Speaker 2>I called the hotline and they said to me, look,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing has changed, like it's the exact same starbursts you

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<v Speaker 2>know and love. Nothing has changed. I thought, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>hung up. Called again. They said, actually yeah, we have

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<v Speaker 2>moved from a vegetarian friendly formula to a vegan formula,

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<v Speaker 2>So that could be some of the tastes you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that you're tasting, or the difference in taste.

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<v Speaker 3>Hung up, called again.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, we've never changed the formula where vegetarian friendly,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not vegan. And perhaps the reason why it tastes

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<v Speaker 2>different is because when it moved from the manufacturing plant

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<v Speaker 2>to your supermarket, maybe it got really hot and so

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<v Speaker 2>it started to like, you know, congeal or the format change,

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<v Speaker 2>and as it cooled down and re solidified. Maybe that

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<v Speaker 2>was the issue. That sounds about right it does. But

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<v Speaker 2>also I called three times in the span of three days.

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<v Speaker 2>Why am I getting three different answers? What if I

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<v Speaker 2>was vegan?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So here's where it gets really, really really sus I

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<v Speaker 2>go on the website and I say, let me just

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<v Speaker 2>hit up a PR contact for Mars Wrigley.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the big deal? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I get in contact with them. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>out anyone, no names, no titles. But their tone was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like, what do you need the information for?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you taking this? What are you doing with it?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you asking? And I said Okay, that's really odd.

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<v Speaker 2>If nothing had changed, you would just tell me. So

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<v Speaker 2>clearly something's changed, and you don't want to tell people

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and you're going around making it seem like

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<v Speaker 2>you're vegan and you're leed Lolly your choice, when really

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<v Speaker 2>you're not. Something's off and I could imagine from their

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<v Speaker 2>point of view, what's this blueticker trying to do? Why

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<v Speaker 2>is she seeking this information? And because at the time

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<v Speaker 2>I was posting this exclusively to my paywall subscription content Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>which means that they couldn't see. But then I noticed

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<v Speaker 2>that two people from Mars Wrigley signed up to my

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<v Speaker 2>close friends at the time because I got their emails,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, you on your time.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't even meant to be like this. It's been fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, by the end of about a one week period,

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<v Speaker 2>I came to realize that I was never going to

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<v Speaker 2>get the real information and everyone just had to tread carefully.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were vegan and wanted to eat starbursts, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>do so at your own risk. We figured out that

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps what was happening is that the starburst we know

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<v Speaker 2>and love was imported from America. Because when I eat

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<v Speaker 2>American starbursts, and I had people bring me American starburst.

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<v Speaker 2>Long story, won't get into it. That tasted like the

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<v Speaker 2>og stuff. This new stuff made imported from somewhere else

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<v Speaker 2>tastes different. I don't know, because it's like an ingredient

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<v Speaker 2>that's taken out. Whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>I let that rest.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know what, I've done my due diligence

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<v Speaker 2>as a consumer and as a part time investigative journalist.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time it does. It's time to let it go.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want any problems. Right Then, two years later,

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<v Speaker 2>almost to the date, Why am I getting tagged, bombarded

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<v Speaker 2>with messaging that Starburst is being discontinued? Why because of

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<v Speaker 2>supply chain issues?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, hold on, okay, hold on, because you said

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<v Speaker 2>nothing had changed, So what has happened?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Were their eyes on the warehouses?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? Were we like cross referencing and something was wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>All I want to say is tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>And do you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>This all comes back down to the myth of authenticity culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Take me back to twenty ten when you couldn't ask

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<v Speaker 2>companies anything. Yeah, facts, you gave me this illusion of openness.

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<v Speaker 2>I took advantage of it. No, I didn't even take advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>It was my right to seek information. Now I'm seeking information.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm the problem. Now I'm the reason that we

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<v Speaker 2>can't eat starburs in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>That's very upsetting because as you talk about this, I

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<v Speaker 3>really want a pink one. So they're completely not on

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<v Speaker 3>the shelves anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, obviously like stores will have the leftover stock the

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<v Speaker 2>current stock, but it's no longer being made as of June,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, get where you can. And they're even

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<v Speaker 2>being sold on eBay for like thirty bucks a pop now,

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<v Speaker 2>so try and get the American version.

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<v Speaker 3>Had a friend drop them off to the office just

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<v Speaker 3>recently because you need my figs. I want one.

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<v Speaker 2>But whether I did or didn't do, I think either way,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm learning that any press is good press, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I will be spooking this.

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<v Speaker 3>And doxing further brands. Ah, if you're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>pay anything influence of content.

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<v Speaker 2>It is what it is to be dragged be where

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<v Speaker 2>I'll release the case study sooner or later, a little written,

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<v Speaker 2>one pager. This is my experience discontinuing Star Best, as

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<v Speaker 2>told by Professor.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex Flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>FLEXI yes, looked at this TikTok the other day. Came

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<v Speaker 3>up on the for you page.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your screen timelight on tiki?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it happens like once a week. Okay, good, four hours, great,

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so good because I get so much stuff

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<v Speaker 3>for this show, so it's essentially like it's research. It

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<v Speaker 3>is research.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>This, uh, the woman that came up my for you page.

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<v Speaker 3>She's got red hair and green eyes, which is my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite combination. What about a name? Oh, her name Jackie

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<v Speaker 3>Murray Smith. She had a blue shaak, so she's serious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And essentially she's talking about a little bit of I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't call it beef, but a situation that's going down

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<v Speaker 3>with Kendall Jenna.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna play theory for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>It all started when Kendall died her hair red. I

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<v Speaker 4>made a complete joke that she obviously got her inspiration

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<v Speaker 4>from me. It's a similar color red to my hair.

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<v Speaker 4>And I made a TikTok saying she must have seen

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<v Speaker 4>me at the Sun's game because I was picked to

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<v Speaker 4>play a game. I went on the jumbo Tron and

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<v Speaker 4>Kendall watches all the Sun's games because her boyfriend Devin

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<v Speaker 4>Booker plays for the Suns, and she's also confirmed many

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<v Speaker 4>times that she watches every game no matter what. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>that video was completely satire. However, shortly after that, I

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<v Speaker 4>had posted this outfit and then Kendall posted this, and

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<v Speaker 4>so I was like, oh my gosh, it's so similar.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I have to run with the joke.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just funny, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So I made another TikTok being like, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even say anything. I just put this pictures

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<v Speaker 3>side by side.

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<v Speaker 4>It became a fun little inside joke on my page.

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<v Speaker 4>People would tagged me in videos of her and be like, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was you because we had.

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<v Speaker 1>Similar hair and outfits.

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<v Speaker 4>Kendall posted this photo of her around the fourth of July,

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<v Speaker 4>and I had posted this photo a while ago, similar pose,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the hat. I put the photo side by

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<v Speaker 4>side on my Instagram story.

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<v Speaker 1>It had been a while since, like a similarity.

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<v Speaker 4>It had happened, and I just thought it was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>And then something weird happened.

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<v Speaker 4>An hour later.

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<v Speaker 3>This photo was gone.

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<v Speaker 4>It still, she thought, all the other photos in the

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<v Speaker 4>photop except she had just deleted this photo.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to stop it there, but there's far more

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<v Speaker 3>instances that she puts on the TikTok. There's a bit

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<v Speaker 3>where she put she got her nails with a cherry

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<v Speaker 3>on them, and then Kendall put a cherry in her

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram caption. Yeah, so it got me thinking, would Kendall

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<v Speaker 3>Jenna see what this woman is posting a would she

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<v Speaker 3>copy it or see? Is she just playing along with

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<v Speaker 3>the joke because she's seeing this internet chat?

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<v Speaker 2>So the question is, is Kendall Jenna copying JC or Jackie's

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie Smith? The likelihood is quite high.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel as though people assume that celebrities of that

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<v Speaker 2>caliber must be tastemakers. But the thing about celebrity, it's

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<v Speaker 2>all referential. It's all coming from somewhere someplace else and

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<v Speaker 2>being delivered to them. It's in their best interest to

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<v Speaker 2>be top of the pops, right. So the same way

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<v Speaker 2>a regular person is looking at Pinterest to see what

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<v Speaker 2>people are wearing, celebrities too are doing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But is it the celebrities or is it the celebrity stylists?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it depends because I feel as though it would

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<v Speaker 2>be remiss to not think that celebrities use the Internet

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<v Speaker 2>as people do, right, Like everyone knows Beyonce's a finster

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<v Speaker 2>that sheh yeah, how many followers who.

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<v Speaker 3>Knows we don't have them?

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<v Speaker 2>I have no doubt there's a group chat with like

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<v Speaker 2>her agent, her manager, stylist or whatever being like oh

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<v Speaker 2>this is cute, or like let's take that third the

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<v Speaker 2>next time when we do some eight one eight promo,

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<v Speaker 2>like here's some inspo for that, he's a mood board whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think it's really casual. But I think that

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<v Speaker 2>because this person's quite a big influencer, it only makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense that you would look to someone who's posting regularly

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<v Speaker 2>for regular content inspo. If it was a regular no

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<v Speaker 2>blue tick person, I'd be like, mm.

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<v Speaker 3>It with TikTok likely possible.

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<v Speaker 2>But a blue ticker who's probably all over Pinterest and

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<v Speaker 2>all over Instagram, it is not unlikely. And also because

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<v Speaker 2>she's been able to track instances where you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>Hayley Bieber follows her, okay, come on now. As if

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<v Speaker 2>it's not on the mood board, I think the thing

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<v Speaker 2>about it now is that the Jackie original influencer is

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<v Speaker 2>calling it out. It makes Kendall look like less of

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<v Speaker 2>a taste maker and that's not good for optics.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's how it started. And now Kendall's taking

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<v Speaker 3>the piss and he's like in on the joke to

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<v Speaker 3>make it look like she was never copying the first place,

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<v Speaker 3>but she was like playing along and trying to interact

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<v Speaker 3>with fans in a COVID way. I do think as well,

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<v Speaker 3>there is a misconception around celebrities that they have more

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<v Speaker 3>protection and more money and more stuff that they actually don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have, for example, separation from the public exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I was listening to a podcast with Lily Allen and

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<v Speaker 3>she was saying how she didn't have security guards and

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<v Speaker 3>people wondered why because she had a stalker and she

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<v Speaker 3>was getting the police to help around and people with

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<v Speaker 3>those A four or being like you should like get

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<v Speaker 3>your own you can clearly afford it, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have that amount of money literally, And.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hard to admit as well, I mean, is it

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<v Speaker 2>hard to I yeah, I think it becomes harder to

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<v Speaker 2>admit because celebrity is really complicit in how they're viewed

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<v Speaker 2>by the public, like they just let the narratives go

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<v Speaker 2>when they're favorable, and then absolutely it's very rare what

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<v Speaker 2>a celebrity controls the narrative. They're relying on the Internet

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<v Speaker 2>to control it for them by giving them fodder and

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<v Speaker 2>if it gets out of hand, and only when it

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<v Speaker 2>gets out of hand will they step in.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is I think regular people do that too. What's

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<v Speaker 3>your point? My point is that it's not They're not

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<v Speaker 3>being bad in doing that, Like, no complicit in anything

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<v Speaker 3>that's untoward.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's just the way of it though, So someone

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<v Speaker 2>like it reminds you when Sidney Sweeney, who is Cassie

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<v Speaker 2>and Euphoria, did a interview recently and she said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I have to choose between She's like, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>afford to not take a break now because I've brought

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<v Speaker 2>a house, and like I literally need to keep taking jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>taking jobs, taking jobs, because she was getting criticism that

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<v Speaker 2>she was doing too much influencer work, and she was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>how did you gonna make money?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I need to? And everyone's like, well, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Should manage your money better, or you shouldn't have bought

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<v Speaker 2>a house, or you shouldn't do this, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my first big break of coause I want

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<v Speaker 2>to buy the house. This money may ever come again,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to, like, you know, get my clout up,

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<v Speaker 2>get the money right before it's gone forever. Everyone's like

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<v Speaker 2>she just manages her money poorly. I'm like, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have any money, Like you think A twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>is giving every single cast member a million dollar deals.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, but I you know, i'd think that without

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<v Speaker 3>hearing that. So it's good to hear it from the

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<v Speaker 3>horse's mouth. Yeah, bloody dummy, I do. I do wonder though,

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<v Speaker 3>if saying that you didn't make as much money then

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<v Speaker 3>makes frands think you're worthless. Like, it's very much a

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<v Speaker 3>fine balance, Yeah, talking about money when you're an influm

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<v Speaker 3>or celebrity. So I'm going to keep an eye on

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<v Speaker 3>this Kendall Jenner situation. I think it's very interesting. I

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<v Speaker 3>would like to hope that she's taking the piss, but

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<v Speaker 3>also it's nice to know they sometimes see the blue tickers. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think this stuff is happening all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I also do have a conspiracy theory that you will

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<v Speaker 3>leave par copy my haircut after I interviewed her in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty. Oh yeah, one hundred percent. We didn't end it.

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<v Speaker 3>She had her like hair with the brown hair and

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<v Speaker 3>the like front blonde streaks, and I had little like

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<v Speaker 3>I was wearing space buns and this tiny little art

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<v Speaker 3>whole fringe and the interview didn't go very well in

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<v Speaker 3>what way that's not on me, but it's not on her.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just awkward, like the sound wasn't right and

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<v Speaker 3>there was all these virtual No it was in real life. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it was like my last interview before COVID, and there

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<v Speaker 3>was an awkward vibe in the room and my like

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<v Speaker 3>questions weren't really landing. It was meant to be jovial

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<v Speaker 3>and chill, but I was asking allegit questions about the music.

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<v Speaker 3>But we just got off on the wrong foot. If

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<v Speaker 3>you could watch the whole twenty minute footage, you'd probably

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<v Speaker 3>pass away. I have some sort of heart attack response.

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<v Speaker 2>But everybody has one bad interview.

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<v Speaker 3>Then one or two months later, she debuts little art

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<v Speaker 3>home fringe with the bleach bond hair. How does that

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<v Speaker 3>make you feel? I thought, yes, slay like, she says

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<v Speaker 3>a good queen and she follows the queen's behavior. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>get a photo later. Yeah, give us the reference.

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<v Speaker 2>I personally think it's nothing special when celebrities copy, because

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have enough time to be original and unique.

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<v Speaker 3>There's too much money on the line. They just need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Track what's popping and elevate it in the best way possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And then track what's popping and elevate in the best

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<v Speaker 2>way possible, and hopefully they don't get caught doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they do, the best they can do is

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<v Speaker 2>make a joke of it. I just refuse to believe

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<v Speaker 2>that Kendall jen is that funny though, like she's are

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<v Speaker 2>you working? Hey? You got time to do inside conspiracies

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<v Speaker 2>with the fans.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Nobody wants to work these dates. Nobody

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<v Speaker 3>wants to work these things anyway. Get the picky for us. No no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>no no no no no, phone down.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>If I told you I found an Internet post of

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<v Speaker 2>the world's least hated celebrities, what kind of celebrities do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel beyond that list?

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<v Speaker 3>Comedians that never offend anyone? Okay, women who are pretty

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<v Speaker 3>and also have a slight sense of humor, but not

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<v Speaker 3>such a sense of humor like Jennifer Lawrence style just

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<v Speaker 3>a bit quirky. Milikounis for sure on the list. Okay, yep,

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<v Speaker 3>Ashton Kutcher on the list.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't shower, so what his reputations changed recently because

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't shower a lot, so the internet's like a

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<v Speaker 2>bit off him.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sorry, sorry, I want to me these names. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>do you want the spoiler a lot first? Yeah? Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>There are all old white people, every single one, men

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<v Speaker 2>and women.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>But I said, come on now, there is just no way,

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<v Speaker 2>is it, because their digital footprint isn't on the Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why you think you like them.

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<v Speaker 3>So sure you throw Samuel L. Jackson in there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not in there. He's not in there. Yeah, no ethnics, bame,

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<v Speaker 2>We've got Steve BISHEMI yeah, facts okay, Hugh Laurie had

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<v Speaker 2>to google that one since forgotten and that is no shade. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just in different demographics. Oh house, Oh nah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like him, but maybe you don't like his character.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't like the character.

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<v Speaker 2>Brendan Fraser had a tough time in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh honey. Yeah, Julie Andrews, I feel like that is

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<v Speaker 3>a sound of music.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, sound of music. Princess Diaries, Mary Poppins Bridgeton Minions.

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<v Speaker 3>Very classic British style American celebrities.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing I'm seeing a trend here, Alan Rickman, Snake,

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<v Speaker 2>professor snag.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's a vibe. Dame Judy Dench, Where's Dame Medna?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they're on the other side of the

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<v Speaker 3>spectrum lately. What does that mean? Oh, they've wander a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of fire lately in this new generation, but they

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<v Speaker 3>really loved.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we have Maggie Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that. Oh, I think it's another Harry

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<v Speaker 3>Potter one. What is this list?

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly feel like it's just a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 2>with a very little digital footprint or who their fame

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of peaking in a time where their character

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<v Speaker 2>and what their character meant to the world meant more

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<v Speaker 2>to people than what they were actually Like mm, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>just projecting these positive qualities because the characters.

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<v Speaker 3>Were really good totally, and I think they all exemplify

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<v Speaker 3>what the absolute peak of being in that generation, like

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<v Speaker 3>the goodness of it. Like Julie Andrews played this beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>woman that was nice around children in Sound of Music.

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<v Speaker 2>Mary Poppins, Yeah, whatever she was, she was wholesome.

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<v Speaker 3>I think all of these actors have something whatever it

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<v Speaker 3>is was, I'll justify. It's such a boring list.

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<v Speaker 2>I refuse to say that if you didn't go through

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<v Speaker 2>every single person, there'd be something to hate. How they're

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<v Speaker 2>the least hate it. I just don't feel like it's accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the so the justifications.

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<v Speaker 3>Why hm, see I'm trying to justifications.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh, you know, I saw a really

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<v Speaker 2>great picture of him doing a food drive, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't pr you know what I'm saying, Oh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I heard a really great story, like you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get his first luxury car until he was sixty,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's so humble.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was a Porsche that it was much more

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<v Speaker 3>about him than I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel as though when we're looking at people who were

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<v Speaker 2>hated on the internet or receive a lot of criticism,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sometimes it's for the most obscure, minor stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>right like you know, they they you know, it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem as funny as they used to be, or like

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<v Speaker 2>they started whatever it might be. And then you find

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<v Speaker 2>these people who have been touted least hated, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is what you're giving me, not even some good reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's got beef with Reddit and I think we

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<v Speaker 2>should make our own list.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I like that it's least hated. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to go in ten people. Oh no, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>At least hated is a good place to start. And

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get real, like real create with it,

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<v Speaker 2>not just I saw them do a good thing that

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<v Speaker 2>could have been pr pr You know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and Frooms on Kita FLEXI.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to tell you a story that I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to disturb you. I'm ready, it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>rattle you, and you're going to walk away lesser in

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<v Speaker 3>the mind than you were when you came standard practice,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. So this is from Reddit

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<v Speaker 3>and it's under the relationship's problems are sub Reddit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to read it to you. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>My boyfriend and I have been dating for almost four months.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a boyfriend? Friend? And I've never had a

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<v Speaker 3>problem with him, no red flags, nothing so far. He's

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<v Speaker 3>been an amazing boyfriend and I'm super happy. Although he

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<v Speaker 3>has this weird relationship with taking a dump And this

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<v Speaker 3>goes back to sixth and seventh grade. How old are they? Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say, shouldn't say it I'm going to say,

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<v Speaker 3>like eighteen, if you're talking about six and seventh grade,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can delineate which's with you're under the age

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<v Speaker 3>of twenty. And she said, I didn't know him at

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<v Speaker 3>this time. I just know the stories that he's told me.

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<v Speaker 3>He used to post a lot of bathroom picks and

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<v Speaker 3>being in the bathroom and was This was a recurring

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<v Speaker 3>theme in his Instagram posts for a while. To clarify

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't his shit, just him in the bathroom, nothing

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<v Speaker 3>bad selfies and what not. He admits it was cringing, weird.

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<v Speaker 3>He has all these posts deleted fast toward sometime and

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<v Speaker 3>we're dating now and we call each other almost every day,

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<v Speaker 3>and I believe there's been two times that he's used

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<v Speaker 3>the bathroom on call and he's never admitted to it,

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<v Speaker 3>which I relate often. I'm on zoom, putting it on pause,

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<v Speaker 3>doing a little twinkle.

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<v Speaker 2>One of our first zooms together in a professional context

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<v Speaker 2>for me, was troudown on the toilet, fishing for toilet paper,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to wipe did not obscure. I got the side

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<v Speaker 2>that I didn't get full crutch. But she's not immune

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<v Speaker 2>to this behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>If you ever get sick of me. Just call HR.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope you took some screenshots get us both fired. But

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<v Speaker 3>recently he asked if I want to see a picture

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<v Speaker 3>of his shit, and honestly, I should have expected he

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<v Speaker 3>would actually send a pick. He said he was really

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<v Speaker 3>proud of it, and then it looks perfect good for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Then two days later we're on a call again and

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<v Speaker 3>he just goes quiet and says, sorry, I was just

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<v Speaker 3>admiring these shits I left in the toilet. Someone left.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a phantom pou ghost got it. And she goes

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<v Speaker 3>in capitals, I'm sorry, what flush the shit? Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 3>I tell him it's a little weird, and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>really care. We kind of move on, and so far

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<v Speaker 3>there hasn't been anything shit related. I know it's only

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<v Speaker 3>an erk about my boyfriend, and I honestly hope this

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't turn into an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>A love that word differentiate between erk's IX and red flags.

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<v Speaker 3>This is totally a difference. I could do a whole

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<v Speaker 3>segment on that. What is an erk? An erk is

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<v Speaker 3>like something petty that's not related to the relationship, like

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<v Speaker 3>an ierk is like something that people say, isn't that

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<v Speaker 3>an ick? No? So a erk is like you say

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<v Speaker 3>the word what's the word? You say alas, you say

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<v Speaker 3>alass and it pisces me off. Okay, then an but

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<v Speaker 3>you're still attracted to me. Yeah, it's just a nerd like.

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<v Speaker 3>Regardless of who says it, it's pissed me off. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have to be you got it. An ick is

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<v Speaker 3>when someone you own a relationship with does something that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't logically make sense about it being gross, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It gives you the dick. Yes, okay, I understand.

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<v Speaker 3>And then a red flag is a red fig Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>needs no introduction, but that's been something is obvious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>she wants to know. Is it weird that her boyfriend

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<v Speaker 3>does this? Is it cause for concern?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing that thing where my body is trying not

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<v Speaker 2>to fracture under the pressure of what's gone on in

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<v Speaker 2>this room.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time I can relate to this king. Sometimes we

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<v Speaker 3>do a pooh, so either perfect enormous my personal one.

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<v Speaker 3>If I do a pooh of this color but that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about to describe to you, I must take a photo,

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<v Speaker 3>whether or not I send that on. Have you previously

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<v Speaker 3>shared and distributed poop photos? Well, okay, I've got a

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<v Speaker 3>friend I'm not going to dock, sir. Okay, But she

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<v Speaker 3>often sends your pictures of a pooh. We also have

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<v Speaker 3>photos together of her wiping and showing me showing you

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<v Speaker 3>what the toilet, what's on the toilet paper?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 3>What would what? For what reason? Because she's like a

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<v Speaker 3>really beautiful, like stylish woman, she will wipe it and

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<v Speaker 3>show me the.

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<v Speaker 2>But what would be on the toilet paper that pooh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? But why would you need to see that? Because

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<v Speaker 3>it's interesting. It's like whack, it's disgusting. It's totally pushing

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<v Speaker 3>the boundaries. It's arm wack. It's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's totally pushing the boundaries.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, wohole, But he would love it. He's turning in

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<v Speaker 3>his grave thinking. You ask me, Sleigh, I can relate

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<v Speaker 3>to this. Sometimes you do a pooh that snakes from

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<v Speaker 3>the top of the bowl right down through into the

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<v Speaker 3>curvy bit of the toilet. How many send me? As

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<v Speaker 3>we talking forty centimeters? What it comes out of you

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<v Speaker 3>like a soft serve? Like yeah, perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've ever done a poop longer than

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<v Speaker 2>ten centimeters, So you need to emil fiber. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't experience joining until we've done one of these poohs

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<v Speaker 2>snakes brown snak.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I think it's gross of him to do that?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's inappropriate to send someone a Pooh pick

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<v Speaker 3>unless you give them warning because you don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing at that moment. PEPs, they're eating chocolate. Consent

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<v Speaker 3>is everything? Consent is, yeah, totally. They're eating a mars bar.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you don't want to see a picture of

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<v Speaker 3>a poo when you're chowing down on a king sized

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<v Speaker 3>Mars bar. You don't. But do I think he's allowed

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<v Speaker 3>to do this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>You would take pride like why is why does poop

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<v Speaker 3>have to be so disgusting? Yes, it's poisonous if you

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<v Speaker 3>congest it, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's desigmatize pooh. I get what you're saying completely. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't support you, but I will stand beside.

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<v Speaker 3>You know who shaming in the studio. I will say

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<v Speaker 3>though we're in the comments.

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<v Speaker 2>We started off this message with the girlfriend declaring that

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<v Speaker 2>they've been boyfriend and girlfen for four months, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is what happens at the four month mark. We start

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<v Speaker 2>to humanize each other and one party always takes it

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<v Speaker 2>too far. I mean, first integrating the farting, No.

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<v Speaker 3>Go on opening the door when a pooh, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to quit conversation. I'll do it. Open up

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<v Speaker 3>p ah, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Little twinkle tinkle wait, twinkle yeah, twinkle No, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I said twinkle last tinkle A little tinkle tinkle tinkle,

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<v Speaker 2>not a big deal. I understand you might burn more often,

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<v Speaker 2>you might like hack up some slammers, you're coughing, and

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<v Speaker 2>these things happen. This is make or break period four

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<v Speaker 2>months mark. You're seeing the full picture with clear eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like what you see? Are you down for

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<v Speaker 2>the long haul?

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<v Speaker 3>She seems like a pretty relaxed person, so I think

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<v Speaker 3>she can handle it. Others this might be the breaking

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<v Speaker 3>point for sure. She's better than me, and I mean it.

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