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Speaker 1: This is gem Nation. We're Jones. Well, we may be

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Speaker 1: going into our third line Ninia, but our next guest

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Speaker 1: has given us nothing but endless summer nights like what

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Speaker 1: I've done that. Richard Marx has sold more than thirty

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Speaker 1: million albums worldwide. He was last in Australia in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: We spoke to him when he was releasing his book,

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Speaker 1: and now he's announcing a new album and an Australian tour.

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Speaker 1: We could not be more thrilled.

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Speaker 2: Hello Richard, my friends, I want you. I see behind

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Speaker 2: you because we're on Zoom. I see the sort of

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Speaker 2: muppet like caricatures of you, and I want one of

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Speaker 2: my own. I want I want somebody to create that

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Speaker 2: for me.

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Speaker 1: Well great, we have an ad campaign that these so

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Speaker 1: we didn't have to turn up for the filming, which

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Speaker 1: was just a way of giving us a day off

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Speaker 1: and ours sat lounging around a fireplace, which was lucky

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Speaker 1: because I could have melted.

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Speaker 3: You can know, there are little dollies. I wanted to

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Speaker 3: call them action figures, but a man said their dollies.

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Speaker 3: But they were on a TV. So if you've ever

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Speaker 3: if you're ever board and your YouTube Jonesy Demander, Dolly Ad.

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Speaker 3: You'll see what they're about.

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Speaker 2: They're kind of cute. Check it out, but a little

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Speaker 2: I'm a little jelly jelly.

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Speaker 1: We're getting measured for them? Is interesting. Yes, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how. I couldn't hold my stomach in

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Speaker 1: for very long, so I had to say, quick, quick,

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Speaker 1: do it now. They use one of those electronic tape

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Speaker 1: measure things.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha, And we've both got mounds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it was just a mound. Look, what's thrill

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Speaker 1: that you're coming here? When's the last time that you

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Speaker 1: toured here? Was that twenty eighteen?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Before everything?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the end of twenty eighteen, I came and did

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Speaker 2: a tour of my own. But also I did some

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Speaker 2: shows on the Green whatever on the Green right, yep,

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Speaker 2: with mister Farrenham. And yeah, and you know, I've been

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Speaker 2: reaching out to I hear good things. I hear he's

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Speaker 2: recovering and we're all thinking of him, and you know,

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Speaker 2: just so you guys know, he's not just a treasure

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Speaker 2: to you, He's a treasure to me as well.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, that's that's the last time I was there.

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Speaker 2: And I think it was during the Arias. I showed

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Speaker 2: up at the Arias and presented on a word and

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Speaker 2: got to see our buddy Keith, and it was a

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Speaker 2: great couple of weeks there. But yeah, that's the last

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Speaker 2: time I'm there, so I'm it's it's time always.

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Speaker 3: Time we've missed you. And I just love this the

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Speaker 3: two new songs that were just listening to them before.

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Speaker 3: But Same heart Break, Different Day. You've written that with

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Speaker 3: Katy Perry, which sounds fantastic, but also I love shame

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Speaker 3: on you and this is with your son co written

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Speaker 3: with Jesse.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna have to either fire or severely penalize

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Speaker 2: whoever gave you your your information, because you're right about

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Speaker 2: the latter. Shame on you. I wrote with my youngest

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Speaker 2: son Jesse. Same Heartbreak, Different Day, I wrote with my

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Speaker 2: middle son Lucas wrote us four Katie par last year, right,

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't it's not like a complete like what

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Speaker 2: are you talking about? But it was definitely lost.

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Speaker 3: Its deriveted bit.

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Speaker 2: But it was the first time that I collaborated with

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Speaker 2: my baby boy Jesse, who's a great rock artist and

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Speaker 2: rock guitarist, and we wrote a couple of songs and

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Speaker 2: one of them was shame on you. And we ended

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Speaker 2: up getting Taylor Hawkins from the Hoo Fighters to play

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Speaker 2: drums on it. He was a dear friend of mine.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say about the song, I

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Speaker 3: love the drums in it. Wow, right, And also the

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Speaker 3: song takes me back to I Don't Need Nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's nothing.

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Speaker 3: It's got that great. I heard it and I went, WHOA,

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Speaker 3: that's uh, because a lot of people when they think

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Speaker 3: of Richard Marx, you know you have this rock side

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Speaker 3: that I don't think people appreciate and don't need nothing.

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Speaker 3: To me, it was when I first discovered you all

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Speaker 3: those years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was my first single in America

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Speaker 2: and I started my my career started at rock radio.

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Speaker 2: The first six months of my career was just all

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Speaker 2: rock stations and rock clubs. And it wasn't until I

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Speaker 2: released this sort of emotional rock ballad called Hold onto

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Speaker 2: the Nights that the rock stations went, well, we're not

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Speaker 2: playing him anymore. He's a pop guy. But I didn't

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Speaker 2: stop me from continuing to do rock music throughout the years.

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Speaker 2: But I will say that it's been a while since

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Speaker 2: I've done anything as heavy as guitar heavy and drum

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Speaker 2: heavy as these tracks on the new album, and as

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Speaker 2: we were about to finish it and we were about

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Speaker 2: to mix it, which is the last part of the process,

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Speaker 2: I just thought, look, the worst that Taylor would say

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Speaker 2: is now, I don't want to play on it. And

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Speaker 2: I played him the track and he said, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I love this song. I'd love to play on it.

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Speaker 2: And so Jesse and I went over to his house

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Speaker 2: and spent the day with him, and I knew him.

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Speaker 2: I knew him pretty well, and he was just the

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Speaker 2: sweetest kind of He was just amazing. So it's very

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Speaker 2: bittersweet because I think about him every day. I miss him,

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Speaker 2: and it was very untimed, but I'm also incredibly grateful

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Speaker 2: that I got to make music with him and that

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Speaker 2: he's part of this record.

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Speaker 1: Is a dream for you to tour with your sons,

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Speaker 1: That's a good question.

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Speaker 2: They haven't. I mean, they've sat in with me, my son,

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Speaker 2: Lucas and Jesse. They're actually Lucas and Jesse happened to

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Speaker 2: be in London with me now and I think they're

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Speaker 2: going to sit in with me tomorrow night. Lucas got

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Speaker 2: up with me in Amsterdam and in Edinburgh when I

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Speaker 2: was there. As far as touring with me, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's something that I've thought about, but I think that

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Speaker 2: they're just happy doing their own thing, you know, just

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Speaker 2: like I had tremendous love and respect for my father

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Speaker 2: when I was young, but I wanted to do my

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Speaker 2: own thing. You know, he'd said, hey, come out and

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Speaker 2: work with me, and I mean he tried to get

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Speaker 2: me to like he was a jingle writer and producer,

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Speaker 2: and he tried to get me to sort of take

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Speaker 2: over his business. And I said, man, I'm so grateful,

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Speaker 2: but I like, that's your thing. I want to do

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Speaker 2: my thing. And I think my sons are in the

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Speaker 2: same same place.

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Speaker 3: Because that right, you did a jingle when you're a kid,

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Speaker 3: didn't you.

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Speaker 2: I did a bunch of jingles when I was a kid, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: for like candy bars and bubble gum and breakfast Cereal.

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Speaker 2: As a songwriter, as a pop songwriter, I have the

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Speaker 2: luxury of three and a half four minutes. My father

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Speaker 2: had no luxury. He had to get to the hook

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Speaker 2: within thirty seconds.

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Speaker 3: Well, in Australia, we've got lub lubemobile and I'm not

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Speaker 3: even to lubemobile.

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Speaker 1: It's a van that comes to your home. And what

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Speaker 1: do I even I don't.

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Speaker 2: Even want to, I don't This is going to go

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Speaker 2: down a whole, very dangerous road right now. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to tell you right now, what what do you.

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Speaker 3: Think Lubemobile does. It's a mobile van that comes around

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Speaker 3: and the jingle goes called thirteen thirty thirty two, Loo Mobile,

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Speaker 3: Loo Mobile?

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Speaker 2: What do you think they do? I know what they do,

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Speaker 2: but it's still dangerousous topic found that out the hard way.

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Speaker 2: Say the word you stay, the word lube and I'm

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Speaker 2: going to be twelve years old.

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Speaker 3: Of course you are. Of course you are well, Richard.

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Speaker 3: It's great to talk to you. The Songwriter Tour Australian

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three tours on sound Now, Frontier Touring dot Com.

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Speaker 3: Richard Marx is always a trait to catch up with you.

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Speaker 2: You guys are great. I can see you hopefully, hopefully

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Speaker 2: I'll get in there and we can hang out in person.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Richard,