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Speaker 1: Now, as we know, the race to the local government

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory's electoral Commissioner, Kirstin Kelly. Good morning to your commissioner.

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Speaker 1: Let's try that again. I'm not too sure what we've

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Speaker 1: the line now, Good morning, Kursten, can you hear me? Okay,

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Speaker 1: we don't seem to. I'm not too sure what's going

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Speaker 2: Hopefully I've got to Now I'll try one last time.

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Speaker 1: Actually, no, we're gonna have to get her back on

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Speaker 1: we know that early voting has indeed opened. Sounds like

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Speaker 1: So we'll see if we can find out some further

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Speaker 1: Electoral Commissioner, Kirsten Kelly on the line now, Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you, Commissioner.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 2: Sorry about that, I was having some tech issues.

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Speaker 1: Now we know that early voting has opened this morning.

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Speaker 1: How are things going from your perspective? We had heard

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Speaker 3: I'm not aware of that, but I can find out

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Speaker 3: more details about that. But early voting has started at

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Speaker 3: eight o'clock this morning right across the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 2: So whereabouts can you vote?

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Speaker 1: To those listening this morning, sort of around Darwin, Palmerston

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so. If you are in Darwin, the Darwen

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Speaker 2: Actually, what about Catherine.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that they've got somewhere where they can vote

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Speaker 1: And I understand that the Electoral Commission is going to

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Speaker 2: But is that usual practice?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is usual practice. So when people go and

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Speaker 1: Now, Commissioner, I've had a couple of candidates getting contact

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Speaker 2: What's the goal?

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Speaker 3: My understanding is is that should be in train. I

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Speaker 1: Yep, all right, Now, Commissioner, can I ask are people

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Speaker 1: We've also had a lot of people questioning the criteria

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Speaker 3: So in the Northern Territory, there's no nomination fee for

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Speaker 3: So in other jurisdictions there are nomination fees for local

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, well definitely, I'm sure our listeners will have

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Speaker 1: this morning. There has also been some quite terrible online trolling,

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Speaker 3: So the position in the Northern Territory is that there's

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Speaker 1: I mean, is it becoming quite difficult to manage in

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Speaker 1: Commissioner there's also been quite a bit of vandalism damage

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Speaker 3: Again if I'm certainly happy to receive that information. But

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Speaker 1: Someone's just message through asking if it's compulsory to vote.

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Speaker 3: It is, isn't it in the Northern Territory. Yes, it

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Speaker 3: If you're required to vote, Poleae participate before election day

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Speaker 1: Doug Barton has called through to ask why they know

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Speaker 3: So the voting center of the shopping center there, so

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Speaker 3: That was communicated to candidates that we wouldn't be providing

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Speaker 3: that this year, and as I mentioned, some of the

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Speaker 3: councils Palmerston and Darwin have chosen to allow a table

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Speaker 3: at their voting centers for that information to be displayed

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Speaker 3: and they'll be managing that through the early voting period well.

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Electoral Commissioner, Kirsten Kelly, really appreciate your time

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Speaker 1: this morning. No doubt I'll talk to you again over

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Speaker 1: the coming days.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Katie anytime.

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Speaker 1: Thank you,