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Speaker 2: With Big Bash season in full swing, it's time to

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Speaker 2: bring in the big guns. Star skipper Annabelle Sudland joins.

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Speaker 3: Us at the desk. That is a superb shot. Well.

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Speaker 2: South African captain and strikers international Laura wolver dials in

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Speaker 2: from Tazzy.

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Speaker 3: You just can't give.

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Speaker 1: A great player like Laura Wolver an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: This is the Surge everyone, and welcome to another edition

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Speaker 3: of the Surge.

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Speaker 2: I'm Adam White and I'm pleased to say that Kirby

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Speaker 2: Shaw is with me in the studio as well.

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Speaker 3: Kirby, welcome, Thank you, Whitey.

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Speaker 4: Good to be here again.

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Speaker 2: But it's not just us, It's not just us. We

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Speaker 2: have Annabel Sutherland in the studio at the desk with us.

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Speaker 2: Feels a bit crowded, it feels like a bit claustrophobic.

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Speaker 2: But Annabel, thank you so much for coming in having

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Speaker 2: a chat.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Whitey, Kby, good to be here.

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Speaker 3: Are you feeling today? Yesterday was a bit of a

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Speaker 3: tough one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, always tough on you don't get the results you're after,

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Speaker 5: The nature of T twenty cricket. You got to lose

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Speaker 5: some along the way. And yeah, hopefully it's yeah, one

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Speaker 2: I must confess I was barracking for yesterday because I

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Speaker 2: obviously early in the season. But I'm interested in you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a great loser, to be honest. Oh,

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Speaker 5: you can't shin too long. I think it's important to

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Speaker 5: reflect on the game. Yeah, kind of analyze where it

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Speaker 5: But games come around thick and fast, so yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: going back on Thursday night, So I think it's, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It is someone that lies in bed and I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: I've done this, So if I made that decision, if

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Speaker 2: it's done, and you're just you're pretty good at moving

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Speaker 5: T I think a little bit of both. Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: So yeah, the conversations are already sort of happening about

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Speaker 2: I know Kirby's got a heap of questions for you,

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Speaker 2: as I said in the open, it's so cool to

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Speaker 2: With what she's done with South Africa, particularly Kirby in

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Speaker 3: She was she was amazing.

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable, wasn't she.

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Speaker 6: It's not often that you'd see a semi final and

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Speaker 4: So she she is a star.

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Speaker 2: Amazing all right, Kirby where you go. You can put that.

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Speaker 6: I started talking a little bit about leadership Bellves. I'm

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Speaker 4: Who do you go to?

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Speaker 3: Is it something you always wanted to do at a

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Speaker 2: I obviously know your brother very well and it's something

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Speaker 1: There's lots of people.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious about what you said, Bells that bridging the

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Speaker 6: Who do you most enjoy, whether it's training with, adding

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Speaker 6: It doesn't surprise me that Her comment is that's lovely,

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Speaker 1: Somewhere in between. I think.

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Speaker 5: Those that have been a part of the squad for

446
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Speaker 5: the last few years, I think it's we did a

447
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 5: lot of work in the in the preseason sort of

448
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 5: addressing a few of the things and identifying maybe where

449
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 5: things haven't worked and how we can, yeah, kind of

450
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Speaker 5: move forward. Which was nice to get that kind of

451
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 5: buying from the the group that have been there last

452
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 5: few years. And yeah, I think once you kind of

453
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 5: put that groundwork in, then you're you're making a bit

454
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,719
Speaker 5: of a commitment to each other. But yeah, things are

455
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 5: going to look a bit different. So it's been nice

456
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 5: and I guess refreshing to sort of come in and yeah,

457
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 5: obviously it wasn't around for the week's leading in the

458
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 5: Spring Challenge, but yeah, the staff and those players have

459
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 5: been involved in those conversations have been doing a really

460
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Speaker 5: really great job to kind of drive that forward. And

461
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Speaker 5: I guess set the environment up to have your internationals

462
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 5: come in, have the interstate players come in and kind

463
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 5: of try and make it as.

464
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Speaker 1: Seamless as possible.

465
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Speaker 5: And I think once you once you're in it, it's

466
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 5: it moves quickly.

467
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Speaker 1: And yeah, you've.

468
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Speaker 5: Got to sort of commit to the way that you're

469
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 5: wanting to play and the way you wanted to operate

470
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 5: off the field as well, and that sort of requires

471
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 5: a whole old squad buying.

472
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 2: Is it a pressure or is that an external thing?

473
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: That we in the media talk about when it comes

474
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 2: to the Stars about to win or that they've underperformed

475
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: to this point, men and women.

476
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Speaker 5: Really, I mean, I think every team needs to win,

477
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 5: so I don't think it should be any different for

478
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 5: the Stars, and yeah, we have underperformed, so I think that's. Yeah,

479
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 5: that's a challengeing one that I think, well, I'm certainly

480
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 5: excited to. Yeah, so I guess make it make a

481
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 5: change in the way that the results go. But that

482
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 5: doesn't just happen too So there's yeah, lots of work

483
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 5: that gets gets put in behind the scenes and tournament

484
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 5: Crewe's tough, like one team wins at the end of

485
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 5: the day.

486
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's pretty brutal.

487
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Speaker 2: It's a very interesting dynamic here because I've also got

488
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Speaker 2: the head of women's crew Cricket, Victoria here, as well

489
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: as host of the Surge and also a premiership premiership

490
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: captain at the heat. You coming in sort of a

491
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: fresh set of eyes on all of this. Do you

492
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: see it as not a burden? But have you seen

493
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 2: it as something that it needed to be addressed by

494
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: someone fresh like you who said, you know what it

495
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: takes to win?

496
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I wonder whether it's just my personality that sees

497
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 6: those things as opportunities rather than something deficit or negative.

498
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 6: I think I liked what Belle said about the really

499
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 6: concerted effort for things to look different, and I think

500
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 6: there's an absolute reality in that not being a thing

501
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 6: that happens overnight. You're talking about shifting mindsets and cultures

502
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 6: and ways of working, and that doesn't happen just because

503
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 6: one person's in a different role or someone on staff changes.

504
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 6: I think you're trying to shift away that a club

505
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 6: has operated, and it's actually those ways of working that

506
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 6: influence the outcome, not the other way around. So fixating

507
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 6: on outcome doesn't serve you particularly well. And that's certainly

508
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 6: something I've learned, whether it's at the Heat, whether it's

509
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 6: in education, whether that's in my current role, that it's

510
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 6: actually about what are the genuinely the building blocks, both

511
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 6: human and operational, that actually allow you to set yourself

512
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 6: up for success.

513
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Speaker 4: So I'm in this really lovely.

514
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 6: Position where I get to support all of the Victorian

515
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 6: players across those two teams, rather than feel overly invested

516
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 6: in one place or the other, and I think that

517
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 6: allows me to move quite freely between the two franchises,

518
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 6: but having my own view on what high performance looks

519
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 6: like and best practice looks like, and trying to play

520
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 6: in where I can to add value to both of

521
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 6: those spaces. So I'm not fixated on the Stars all

522
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 6: the Renegades. I'm fixated on Navy Blue and making sure

523
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 6: that those people get better because I think naturally that

524
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 6: will help both of those teams get better too.

525
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: You've only just started a creer Victoria. Now we can

526
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 3: put the pressure on curving right.

527
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: This is good, But so you've only seen a little

528
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: bit of Annabelle, so sort of behind the curtain, what's

529
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: impressed you the most in what you've experienced so far

530
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: that perhaps you didn't know about it before you took

531
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: on the New Year role.

532
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't really know many of the Victorians to

533
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 6: be fair White, so it's been a really interesting process

534
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:52,959
Speaker 6: for me.

535
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 4: I think my snippet of.

536
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 6: Annabelle's a lot smaller than others, just based on Australian

537
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 6: commitments in the World Cup. So the sample size that

538
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 6: I have in terms of what I've seen from her

539
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 6: is probably validating what I could see from the outside.

540
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 6: Someone that works really hard, someone that really wants to

541
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Speaker 6: get better. Probably the thing I didn't fully understand is

542
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 6: how invested she was in all of the extra things

543
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 6: from a leadership perspective to change how the Stars are operating.

544
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 6: I think she was thrust into a leadership role last

545
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 6: year that probably wasn't necessarily anticipated, and that was really

546
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 6: challenging in the fact that she was really clear that, Okay,

547
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 6: I know that this is my responsibility and I want

548
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 6: this to look different, and I'm going to actively engage

549
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 6: in conversations and various actions. That mean she's actively trying

550
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 6: to shift that. So that's probably something that her deep

551
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 6: care for the Stars is probably something I didn't fully

552
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 6: understand from the outside.

553
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 4: That's been really obvious to me.

554
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 3: All right now, you.

555
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: And I were a bad combination because we could talk

556
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: to edbl for three hours. If you've got a couple

557
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: more questions, because we've got it, Laura wolv Art to

558
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 2: come as well, a couple more questions before we let

559
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: Annabelle go.

560
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Speaker 6: I think we've talked a lot about cricket and improvement

561
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 6: and all of the heaviness that goes with professionalism and

562
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 6: being a professional athlete. I'm curious you talked about that

563
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 6: not being too high or being too low, which means

564
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 6: that you see it as a pretty regulated, outward facing human.

565
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 4: How do you balance it away?

566
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 6: What does happy, joyful bells look like when you need

567
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 6: to bring that into balance given the pressure and intensity

568
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 6: of being an athlete, What.

569
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 4: Does it look like away from cricket?

570
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, yeah, it's pretty important to me what

571
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 5: what things look like outside, and probably find it challenging

572
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 5: at times to let the I guess the want to

573
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 5: get better.

574
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: Or find finding ways to you.

575
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 5: Know, I guess fixing problems amongst the team and that

576
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 5: sort of thing, particularly amongst the tournament like Big Bash.

577
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 5: But yeah, making a big effort to I guess, stay

578
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 5: connected to the people I've got out out of cricket. Yeah,

579
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 5: friends and family are pretty important to me. I play

580
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 5: a bit of golf as well, so it's a nice

581
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 5: way to get some fresh air and.

582
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: Not take something too seriously.

583
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: For that and the wrong family scrabble hard to take

584
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: without taking it seriously.

585
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 5: And well, I think I'm the worst golfer in the family,

586
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 5: so it's nice to get humbled by that on the

587
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 5: golf course. And yeah, just have a have a good

588
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 5: time with my mates.

589
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: As well, so yeah, a bit of that.

590
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 5: And then I'm starting as well, so I'm doing a

591
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 5: science degree which keeps the bone ticking along.

592
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: That's it.

593
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: You had enough, I've got plenty more that we don't

594
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 4: have time.

595
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: I've got one more before we let you go in

596
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: just on Thursday night, a massive game against the Sixers.

597
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: You know, we talk about the rivalry between the Stars

598
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: and the Renegades, there's clearly a rivalry between between yourselves

599
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: and the Sixers. Big game at this point in the

600
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: season for both teams.

601
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

602
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 5: We we love coming up against the Sixers and yeah,

603
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 5: it's a great chance to get out there again and

604
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 5: I guess keep playing the way that we want to.

605
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 5: That's sort of been the message to the group so far.

606
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 5: And it's early days, but yeah, we really want to

607
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 5: make a statement with the way that the I guess,

608
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 5: the style of cricket that we're putting out there, and

609
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, it's an exciting opportunity to do that.

610
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 5: Audience Sixers who Yeah, I've got a pretty yeah start

611
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 5: started lineup, which they have for a while now.

612
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, looking forward to that one.

613
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: How you go against the Australian teammates is that one

614
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: you're sort of Pensylina is the one where you circle

615
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: in the calendar say this is the one I really

616
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: want to do well in.

617
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to coming up against them.

618
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 5: I think, Yeah, when you train and play alongside a

619
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 5: lot of those girls, you sort of yeah, it brings

620
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 5: out that kind of extra competitive edge on the field.

621
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: So I'm pretty keen to get into it.

622
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: Thank you for coming.

623
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: Really appreciate I know it's tough after a loss, but

624
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: I know you're a very very busy person, so to

625
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: come in and spend some time with us, we really

626
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

627
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: Thanks Wyey, appreciate it.

628
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: Annabelle Sutherland joining us in the studio here for the surge.

629
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Speaker 2: Don't forget Lauraville, but she's not too far away as well.

630
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: But before we go to Laura, we've got to go

631
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: through all the burning questions when it comes to the

632
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: bb When it comes to the WBBL, thanks to Weber,

633
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: and we're going to start with a team down south

634
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: that wears purple, that are flying early in the season.

635
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: Well there's power in that from Lozzali. Absolutely brilliance, what

636
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 4: an innings.

637
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 7: And the edge and no slip and help me with

638
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 7: the second four in Hamilton's first over completion.

639
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 8: No control, trying to play it out to the leg side,

640
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 8: Christ is catch and I'll well be.

641
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 3: Balzer.

642
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's get to those burning questions for Webber

643
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: and the hobout Hurricanes. Well, they haven't been beaten, they

644
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: haven't played at home yet, three and zero, top of the.

645
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: Table, Kirby, are they actually going to lose?

646
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 4: Its hard to see. How lighty, isn't it? Three from

647
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 4: three on the road.

648
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 6: They're finally back in tazzy as you say, shortly against

649
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 6: the Strikers, which I'm looking forward to that contest as well.

650
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 6: But they would also say they haven't necessarily been clinical either,

651
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 6: So they're in this wonderful position where they've won three

652
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 6: from three.

653
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: They're picking teams based on matchups.

654
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 6: They brought in Calli Wilson to that game at North

655
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 6: Sydney Oval against the Sixers because they thought pace was.

656
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 4: A good match up there.

657
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 6: But they'd look at those three games and go, yeah,

658
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 6: we managed a rain affected game against the heat pretty well,

659
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 6: but in reality, have we played our actually most complete game?

660
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 6: And I think they'd probably say no, which is kind

661
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 6: of terrifying for the rest of the competition.

662
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: So is it just a case of they're so stacked

663
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: with the batting that it gives them this confidence that

664
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. I think we talked about this last week.

665
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: You can put up whatever score you like, we'll get it,

666
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: and then if they bad first, we'll just put up

667
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: a score that's going to be so good that our

668
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: bowlers will they don't even have to bowl well to

669
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: be able to keep them under the score that we paced.

670
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like we've been talking a lot about

671
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 6: how good their batting is and probably then disrespecting the

672
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 6: depth and options they have with the bowling to completely

673
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 6: agree with you that they'll be pretty happy to set

674
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 6: or chase anything from a batting perspective. They've got two

675
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 6: batters inside the top five in the competition already. Lazelli's

676
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 6: Flying Danny White Hodge is Flying. Danny White Hodge has

677
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 6: been involved into one hundred run partnerships already within the

678
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 6: space of three games.

679
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 4: So the top order are definitely doing their job.

680
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 6: But I think you then start to look at the

681
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 6: spread of wickets that being taken across the group as.

682
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: Well, and they are doing that job too.

683
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 6: It's really easy to be distracted by how good their

684
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 6: batting lineup is. But Graham, Hayley, Silver Holmes, they've both

685
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 6: taken five wickets each, Lindsay Smith, Nick Carey three wickets each.

686
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 6: So they're getting it done across the board. That's not

687
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 6: mentioning Molly Strano, who's the second highest wicket taker in

688
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 6: the competition of all time. They've got so many different options,

689
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 6: Laurence Smith, There's lots of Smiths and lots of hyphens.

690
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 4: In that team.

691
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 6: But I think their ballers are getting it done as

692
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 6: much as their batters.

693
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what is more impressive, either what they're

694
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: doing out on the field or their postgame celebrations. I'm

695
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: not sure whether you have seen these, but I just

696
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: thought of it because of you mentioned Molly's name and Elise.

697
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: What they're doing in the change rooms. It's interesting, I'll

698
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: put it that way.

699
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 6: It is interesting that Sparkly had of Elise Blanis. There's

700
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 6: something special and there's a cane trained to situation that

701
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 6: goes on when they recognize good things at the end

702
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 6: of play. But I think that's part of what it

703
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 6: is to be in the Hurricanes family. They really pride

704
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 6: themselves on that family nature of the club, and I

705
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 6: think you can see that through how they look after

706
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 6: each other on field, but also how they enjoy their

707
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 6: success off field. And we know that you've got to

708
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 6: have that element off field to really get around each

709
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 6: other on the field, and Sally and Beams in Jude

710
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 6: Colemon can feel really proud of what they've built down there, and.

711
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: I think it is important to celebrate wins, celebrate good moments.

712
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: I mean, you know better than anyone with cricket. I mean,

713
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: you can win premierships as you've done, but there's plenty

714
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: of bad days.

715
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 3: There's more bad days than good days.

716
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: And I feel at times it can get a bit

717
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: sterile that you don't celebrate the good moments in sport,

718
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: not just cricket.

719
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 6: I think you can rely on Molly Strano and Elisee

720
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 6: Bilani to bring a vibe to a change room, that's

721
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 6: for sure. So it's so nice to seeing them enjoy

722
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 6: their time. Their senior players. They've been there, done pretty

723
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 6: much everything in the game that you can imagine, So

724
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, really getting amongst those post win celebrations,

725
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 6: because you're right, cricket can be really tough, so you

726
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 6: have to enjoy those moments.

727
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: Definitely talking about tough the Thunder now, I thought they

728
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: would win the title. That were my pick at the start,

729
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: but there's zero and three. We were sort of just

730
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: holding fire last time we did an episode of the Surge.

731
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: But now are we prepared to put a line through them?

732
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: Are we prepared to say it's panic stations? What are

733
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: we going to do with the Thunder?

734
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 4: We both had them in our top four starting the season,

735
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 4: didn't we?

736
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 6: I had the one, Okay, I wasn't necessarily that aggressive

737
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 6: with my tip, Now you weren't. I think it's the

738
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 6: batting for them Whiti that just hasn't clicked.

739
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 4: I think it might be.

740
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 6: Forty thirty nine forty somewhere around there. That's the top

741
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 6: score of those top five batters. Now, if you look

742
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 6: at their top five, four of them are current international players,

743
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 6: so you're kind of waiting for it to click. You

744
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 6: could talk for hours about the capacity of a Lichfield

745
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 6: and a vol They're the up and comers in Australian

746
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 6: cricket from a top order batting perspective, and then you've

747
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 6: got the experience of an adapadu and a night. They

748
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 6: really rely on Heather Night bolstering through the middle of

749
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 6: their innings. But when you've got twenties and thirty scattered

750
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 6: across those five batter is, you're just not going to

751
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 6: post a score or chase down a reasonable score.

752
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: So that's really the.

753
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 6: Bit for them that just hasn't quite clicked yet and

754
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 6: they need to get cracking.

755
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

756
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: So I remember talking to a couple of the coaches

757
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: in the WBBO last year about this about in a

758
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: competition that's not very long, at what point do you

759
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: have to pull the lever and make changes? Because in

760
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 2: the case of the Thunder, it's not like they're getting

761
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: belt at they're just twenty or one short. A couple

762
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: of moments that aren't quite going their way that's costing them.

763
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: So what do you do.

764
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 4: They would feel like they have the right ingredients.

765
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 6: They you look at their list and we know how

766
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 6: thoughtful Trent Copeland is in how he constructs that. Their

767
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 6: coach Lisa quietly incredibly experienced as well. So what is

768
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 6: positive is that it's not a change room that would

769
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 6: panic the tutelage of Belinda Clark from a leadership and

770
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 6: culture perspective too, So there's a lot of good quality

771
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 6: counsel that surrounds the decision making for that team. I

772
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 6: think they'll keep backing what they've got. They've got a

773
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 6: home fixture again, it's the Scorches coming this week and

774
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 6: that's going to be a bit of a tipping point.

775
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 6: As you say, ten fixtures, three losses to start the season,

776
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 6: that point is coming soon.

777
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 4: I think they'll hold firm with where they are.

778
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 6: We saw one change, to be fair, young Lucy Finn

779
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 6: came in and she was outstanding. The other night has

780
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 6: rat Gil stepped out of that side, So maybe there's

781
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 6: some subtle changes they're trying to make before they pull

782
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 6: the trigger on something significant. But I think they'll back

783
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 6: what they've got. They just need them to perform.

784
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: Just you're saying before about Trent Copeland, I can just

785
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: see now four in the morning, it's all dark in

786
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: the house and it's just the glow of his laptop,

787
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: just punching in numbers to try and style work out

788
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: how can I turn this around the Brisbane heat. It

789
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: feels that that there's zero.

790
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: And three is a bit different to the thunder zero

791
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 3: and three? Is that fair?

792
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 7: Yeah?

793
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 4: It is fair.

794
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 6: You naturally start asking questions about where are they at

795
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 6: in their season and what that is going to look like.

796
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 6: There's so many lists in this competition, the Thunder, the

797
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 6: Heat of the same where you go, Okay, you haven't

798
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 6: made a great start to the tournament. It doesn't mean

799
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 6: you can't back end it. It doesn't mean your talent

800
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 6: is lost or the capacity within that list is lost.

801
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: When you start scrolling through.

802
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 6: The names in that Heat lineup, You've got a Grace Harris,

803
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 6: You've got a Nadine de Clock, You've got Chanelle Henry,

804
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 6: You've got Jemima Rodriegs. It's a stack list with a

805
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 6: lot of real firepower and then that lovely ability to

806
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 6: access different parts of the ground in Jemima rod reeks,

807
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 6: which is part of the reason the Heat recruited her

808
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 6: last season. So it's not lost, it just hasn't come

809
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 6: off again. Not dissimilar to the Thunder. Lots of starts,

810
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 6: but no one really taking ownership of a batting innings

811
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 6: and going big. He then flipped to the bowling lineup

812
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 6: and Jess Johnason just ticked over one hundred and fifty

813
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 6: games as well, which is remarkable, most wickets and most

814
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 6: games of any player across the BBL and the WBBL,

815
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 6: so there's experience, there's big game responsibility, and I think

816
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 6: it's not far away from them.

817
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: But again, when you own three, your margins are shrinking.

818
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 5: I know.

819
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: And as I said, it does feel different to the

820
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: Thunder because the Thunder have been close to winning games,

821
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: but this is a team that played off in the

822
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: Grand Final last year and probably started that Grand Funnel's favorite,

823
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: so you still feel like they have the capacity to

824
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: turn it around.

825
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 6: And two rain affected games and that three is well,

826
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 6: so you're right there. It does feel different to the Thunder,

827
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 6: and I think they could feel pretty reasonable about how

828
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 6: they are troubling in the roles that they have in

829
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 6: the group, the variety they're having their bawling attack and

830
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 6: there was a Mooney masterclass. She scored one hundred at

831
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 6: ab Field for the scorches, which usually in T twenty cricket,

832
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 6: if someone goes one out like that, it's really tough

833
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 6: to have a result in that game go your way.

834
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 6: And I think the other two matches they've played have

835
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 6: been rain affected, so I think they'd be quite realistic

836
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 6: about where they're ash. But that doesn't change the fact

837
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 6: that there's three games done. And they need some wins

838
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 6: on the board.

839
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: We don't want to talk about the rain because that

840
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: had too much of an impact to start the season.

841
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: We are right involved at the moment with our burning questions,

842
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: thanks to our friends at Webber. It's a tough question.

843
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: Sophie Devine has she bowled the ball of the tournament already?

844
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: I know we're only sort of a third of the

845
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: way through, but the ball that she'd bowled to poor

846
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: old Talia McGray can't take a trick at the moment.

847
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: That was something special.

848
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 6: Going to take some beating, isn't it. That was unbelievable.

849
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 6: The cricket gods are just brutal.

850
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 4: Aren't they.

851
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 6: Tylian McGrath, she didn't really get a lot of opportunity

852
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 6: at the World Cup, and when she didn't convert, it's

853
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 6: been a bit of a scratchy start for her in

854
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 6: this WBBL should be so desperate to score run.

855
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 4: She loves her strikers so much.

856
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 6: And then Sophie Devine runs in and shapes one in

857
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 6: and jags it away and takes out her middle stump

858
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 6: and you're thinking, what have I got to do? I

859
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 6: think in terms of the delivery, yep, it may well

860
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 6: be the delivery of the tournament, even though we're saying

861
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 6: that so early on. I think for me what was

862
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 6: better than the ball itself was the fact that the

863
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 6: Scorches of sitting on the a fence a little bit

864
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 6: prior to that result, and she really asked for more

865
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 6: from her team. We know how important she is and

866
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 6: Beth Mooney is if you're being honest in the context

867
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 6: of which games the Scorches have won historically and will

868
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 6: continue to win in this competition. So for me, yes,

869
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 6: exceptional ball may well be the best one we see

870
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 6: this season. It was the leadership, the ownership that she

871
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 6: took to say, I will take two power playovers and

872
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 6: I will dominate. And she took all three wickets for

873
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 6: her team inside the powerplay for I think about eleven runs.

874
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 4: That was the bit for me that made the ball

875
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 4: even better.

876
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: It felt you've vitually just said this. I know, but

877
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: it just felt like a significant statement. Even the way

878
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: she celebrated it. It was almost like, Yep, that was

879
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: going to happen. This is me imposing myself on this tournament,

880
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: not with the bat, but with the ball.

881
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to admire it, don't you and someone

882
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 6: who's a senior player. She's been around the block a

883
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 6: million times. I have no doubt that there's low key

884
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 6: bit of pressure she puts on herself behind the scenes.

885
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 6: She's so exuberant and jovial when we see her front facing.

886
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 6: But I think there's a reality for any international enfranchise competition,

887
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 6: particularly when you've got longevity with the team, that you

888
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 6: have those voices in your head going, geez, I've got

889
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 6: to perform here, And when she feels like she does,

890
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 6: and she's so loyal to the Scorches, that would have

891
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 6: been pretty satisfying that particular spell for her.

892
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: It felt like game face on very much with what

893
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: Sophie was doing the other night against the Strikers. Okay,

894
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: from sort of one end of the spectrum to the

895
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 2: other with Kieva Bray.

896
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: Now she took a hat trick.

897
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: I don't think she realized she took the hat trick,

898
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure how many people at the venue knew.

899
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 3: That she'd taken a hat trick.

900
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: But it was impressive and she just continues to flourish

901
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 2: in front of our eyes to someone so young.

902
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 6: Compliments to the ground announcer, I think for letting the

903
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 6: sixers know and Keevn know.

904
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 4: That she had actually taken the hat trick.

905
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 6: I suppose it tells you how much she's present in

906
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 6: the moment as well, which I also respect. It's always

907
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 6: a bit of a funny one when you take a

908
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 6: hat trick across two overs.

909
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 4: So I just loved her reaction.

910
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 6: That was the priceless bit for me when some might

911
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 6: think they must have heard it in their huddle over

912
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 6: the ground announcer's voice and.

913
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, was that a hat trick?

914
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 6: Like it was brilliant ended up taking four wickets in

915
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 6: that game.

916
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 4: She didn't bowl in Game one.

917
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 6: She took two for seventeen in Game two and then

918
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 6: four for fifteen from her four overs. And it's not

919
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 6: just rolling and clean up the tale type of situation.

920
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 6: We're talking natzi Va Brunt here, the Graham, Phoebe Lichfield,

921
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 6: Laura Harris, Chamari Adapadu. They're serious wickets. And she did

922
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 6: the same thing last season as well. So not only

923
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 6: is she taking bulk wickets and standing up when her

924
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 6: team need her, she's actually really dominating in terms of

925
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 6: the quality of the wickets that she's taking.

926
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: So we've talked a bit about Phoebe Lichfield this year

927
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: and even the start of this year about how it

928
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: feels like she's taking the women's game to another level

929
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: with her skills. It feels like Kiva's a bit the

930
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: same from a bowling point of view. Someone's so young,

931
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: but it's almost like the next generation coming through, and

932
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: it's kind of like you're you're taking the game, not

933
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: just her game, the game to another level definitely of her.

934
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 6: Melo Jones in commentary talk a little bit about this

935
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 6: iteration feels like the next wave. We've had a decade

936
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 6: of the competition and now WBBL eleven feels like, well,

937
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 6: what's next. Yes, each year we find these new talents,

938
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 6: and Kiva was one of the ones that was surfaced

939
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 6: last year. There's a bit in the fact that she's

940
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 6: still producing in year two. Often we talk about that

941
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 6: second year blues and how once people have seen you

942
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 6: and figured you out, you're.

943
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: Actually not as impactful.

944
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 6: So she's proving that wrong straight away, which tells you

945
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 6: a bit about how good she is. But I think

946
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 6: it is that next generation of talent that we start

947
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 6: to unearth, and that's the greatest thing about this competition

948
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 6: that you get Akiva Bray coming up against We're talking

949
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 6: about Sophie Devine taking three wickets at another game. The

950
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 6: experience with the youth, the opportunity those youthful players get

951
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 6: to actually test their skills in a really high pressure situation,

952
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 6: and then from a long term perspective, helps you make

953
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 6: some decisions about domestically, what opportunity unit is you do

954
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 6: want to provide those young players because they can stand

955
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 6: up on a big stage.

956
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

957
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: Just before we finished the burning questions for Weeb, I

958
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: wanted to ask about I know, we spent a fair

959
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: bit of time talking about the Derbi with Annabelle earlier

960
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: on but Tes Flintoff, and because I thought that that

961
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: was the real story of the game, the fact that

962
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: she's gone from green to red, someone that at times

963
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 2: looks like she's going to take the competition by storm

964
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: and then kind of takes a step back.

965
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: It was a big moment for her to go and

966
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: win that game late, and she did it.

967
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: I'm interesting in your thoughts on where she could take

968
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: her game to both with bad and ball.

969
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 6: It was a bit of a moment, wasn't it. When

970
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 6: Nicole Fulsom and her were at the crease. Nicole is

971
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 6: the one that's recently moved from green to red as

972
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 6: well last season. Interestingly, that move and her two best

973
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 6: innings with the bat in hand for the Renegades last

974
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 6: year came against the Stars, So you also have to

975
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 6: wonder whether there's a little bit in that in terms

976
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 6: of stepping into the moment. I think from test perspective,

977
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 6: she's to say she's humble probably under sells just how

978
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 6: shy she can be about the capacity that she has,

979
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 6: almost shies away from it to an extent, And I

980
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 6: think she needs to bank evidence in those big moments

981
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 6: so she can start to believe what everyone else sees

982
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 6: and is saying. And the only way that you can

983
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 6: disrupt that in your mind and shift that mindset for yourself,

984
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 6: whether it's about humility, you sort of have to teeterr

985
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 6: a bit on arrogance in a way in this sport

986
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 6: to walk out as a better and believe that you

987
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 6: are better than the opposition, that you can take them on.

988
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 6: And Tess Flintov would never be arrogant, but it's almost

989
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 6: helping her move past that apologetic humility to go, you know,

990
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 6: I am good enough and I now have enough examples

991
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 6: of my performance in key moments to know that.

992
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 4: Maybe some of that height might actually be well placed.

993
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: And I agree with you, and I think it frustrates

994
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 2: me to a point.

995
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: Is someone that she's got everything.

996
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: She's a brilliant field and an excellent throw, she's athletic

997
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: in the field, she bowls a heavy ball and she

998
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: can whack it, so she's got all skills covered. But

999
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: it's that belief that needs to compliment the physical set.

1000
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 2: Because you think about the all rounders around the world

1001
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: in the men's or the women's game, they do have

1002
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: a bit of a strut about them. They do have

1003
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: this belief and confidence because that's what helps make them

1004
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: take a game away from an opposition. And when we

1005
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 2: look at the Renegades, they don't really have that play

1006
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: with Hailey Matthew's not here this year that can break

1007
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: a game. But I actually think Tess could be that player.

1008
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 6: You're right, she's genuinely multifaceted and the fact that Cricket

1009
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 6: Australia have invested in her with her first contract this

1010
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 6: year another piece of evidence so will hopefully help her

1011
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 6: start to understand that the right people call that what

1012
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 6: you will have recognized that she has that all roundability.

1013
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 6: You don't get a start on that contract list for

1014
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 6: Australia if you aren't multifaceted and ideally all three, which

1015
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 6: she is. And not only does she have all three

1016
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 6: skill sets, she's got X factor in all three skill sets,

1017
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 6: which is so unique. The belief part is so interesting,

1018
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 6: and I think sitting in that space with Simon Helmet

1019
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 6: and the way that he encourages his teams to play cricket,

1020
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 6: I hope gives her the opportunity to feel a bit

1021
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 6: more freedom to express her skills, because they are incredible skills.

1022
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 6: And if she has the freedom and she banks the evidence,

1023
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 6: then perhaps that belief and mindset can shift.

1024
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 3: It's a good point.

1025
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: I think Simon's probably the perfect coach for her to

1026
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: get the best.

1027
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 3: Out of her.

1028
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,479
Speaker 2: Okay, they are the Burning Questions brought to you by web.

1029
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: It is now time. This is World Cricket Royalty. Really

1030
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: we're very, very excited. We've had annabel at the start

1031
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 2: of the show and she's fantastic Annabelle. We have Laura

1032
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: Wulvart who's going to join us the Adelaide Strikers and

1033
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: South African Star next on the Surge. Okay, it's so

1034
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: good on the Surge to have, as I said earlier,

1035
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: one of the stars of World Cricket from South Africa

1036
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: and now through the WBBL with the Adelaide Strikers, and

1037
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: I speak of Laura Wolvart.

1038
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: Laura, welcome to the Surge. It's great that you could

1039
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 3: join us.

1040
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me.

1041
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: How are you liking Australia this time around, after such

1042
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 3: a busy period with a World Cup where you had

1043
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 3: so much success to then get on a plane and

1044
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 3: get straight back into it and change from the grain

1045
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: to the blue of the Strikers.

1046
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm loving it. I think obviously being at Strikers

1047
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 7: for a few seasons now, it just sort of feels

1048
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 7: real comfortable coming back. I thought it would maybe be

1049
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 7: a long stand away, but yeah, I think just being

1050
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 7: back in Australia sort of feels like a second home.

1051
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 7: So yeah, it feels really good.

1052
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: To be back.

1053
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kirby's got lots of questions for you, as I

1054
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: do as well, but I'm just interested after your experiences

1055
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: in the World Cup coming back to Australia this time,

1056
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 2: do you do.

1057
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: You feel like you're a better player.

1058
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: If that's possible with the experiences you've had just in

1059
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: the last twelve months, I.

1060
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 7: Don't know, A tricky question. I think, yeah, obviously you

1061
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 7: played a lot of crickets since the last Big Bash.

1062
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 7: I think I've learned a lot from sort of a

1063
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 7: captaincy point of view. In the World Cup. I think

1064
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 7: it was sort of a b eight weeks of planning

1065
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 7: and meetings and that sort of thing. So I think

1066
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 7: in the long run it'll do my captaincy good. But yeah,

1067
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 7: I think coming back to Australia is always a bit

1068
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 7: of an adjustment, really bouncy here compared to what I'm

1069
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 7: used to, so hopefully we can have a good tournament.

1070
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 6: Well, if want to unpack some of that leadership stuff

1071
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 6: across the World Cup, how does Laura as an early captain,

1072
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 6: what are the differences compared to Laura post finalist of

1073
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 6: a World Cup.

1074
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 7: Well, I think as an early captain, I hadn't really

1075
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 7: done it much before in my career, so I would

1076
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 7: literally just be a better just think about myself and

1077
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 7: just watch a ball, whereas at the start I had

1078
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 7: to start learning about balling plans and setting fields and

1079
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 7: what ballers are actually trying to do, so that's a

1080
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 7: lot to learn sort of on the go. But I

1081
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 7: think I'm sort of getting the hang of out a

1082
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 7: bit better now, especially captaining the same side over and over.

1083
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 7: You kind I get to know people's plans and what

1084
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 7: they're trying to do, so I think it has taken

1085
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 7: me a season or two to kind of settle into that.

1086
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 7: So yeah, I think it's been an enjoyable sort of

1087
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 7: learning experience.

1088
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 6: A new coach recently too, I'm curious to understand. I

1089
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 6: read a really interesting article about the breath of fresh

1090
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 6: air that he's been for your environment.

1091
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: What has he brought and then how do you navigate

1092
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: that change? As well?

1093
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 6: From a working with a different coach perspective, I.

1094
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 7: Think we compliment each other quite well. He's sort of

1095
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 7: the opposite of me. He's really loud, he's chatty, he's outgoing.

1096
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 7: He's really good at giving inspirational talks and pumping the

1097
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 7: group up, So I think he's he sort of handles

1098
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 7: that sort of side of it and then I sort

1099
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 7: of do the more calm, one on one chats planning

1100
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 7: cricket specific side of things. So I think we work

1101
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 7: together quite well. He's really been good or field as well,

1102
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 7: sort of culturally bringing the group together, really working sort

1103
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 7: of in that connection was in the group. So yeah,

1104
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 7: he's been real good for that.

1105
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 4: What do you feel most proud of about the World Cup?

1106
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 6: There's so much individually and collectively to speak about.

1107
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 7: Most proud of probably just the resilience of the group.

1108
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 7: I think obviously had that game at the start, we

1109
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 7: were sixty nine all out, and I think a lot

1110
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 7: of people sort of would have written us off, and

1111
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 7: I think just for ourselves as well, to bounce back

1112
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 7: from that game. You know, when you have a game

1113
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 7: like that and you start sort of questioning, well, it's

1114
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 7: easy to sort of question, you know, are we actually

1115
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 7: ready for this tournament or not? So I think just

1116
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 7: the way we were able to bounce back from that

1117
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 7: and win five games after that and make the finals

1118
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 7: was awesome.

1119
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: To reach the final and all that goes with that

1120
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: captain in South Africa being one of the stars of

1121
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: World creet let alone South Africa. Have you have you

1122
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: dealt with that extra I guess pressure of responsibility, but

1123
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 2: also extra exposure.

1124
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 7: I think it was a very cool tournament. Obviously in

1125
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 7: India there's always going to be a lot of hype

1126
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 7: around the tournament. I think we just really enjoyed it,

1127
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 7: really felt a lot of love from back home, had

1128
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 7: a lot of people watching the games, so yeah, I

1129
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 7: think we just enjoyed it more as a group than

1130
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 7: anything else. Didn't really see it as extra pressure, and yeah,

1131
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 7: it was just a really fun tournament to be a

1132
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 7: part of.

1133
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 6: It feels like your team are now popping up really

1134
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 6: consistently and ICC World Cup events there's been semi finals

1135
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 6: and finals sort of almost on repeat. What does that

1136
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 6: mean for the sport for women in South Africa and

1137
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 6: what do you hope for next?

1138
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's huge. It's huge for us as a country.

1139
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 7: I think after the first final we made back in

1140
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 7: at Newland's in that South Africa home World Cup, we

1141
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 7: had domestic contracts introduced. So yeah, for the last two

1142
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 7: seasons we've sort of had contracted players in each province

1143
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 7: being able to play create a full time. So yeah,

1144
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 7: I think just keep if we keep making finals, that

1145
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 7: will just continue to grow. Hopefully we get some form

1146
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 7: of the league one day, but I think that's a

1147
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 7: little while to go. But I think you're already seeing

1148
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 7: sort of the improvements and the depth within our cricket

1149
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 7: in the country. Just on the back of making those finals.

1150
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 6: That's so exciting, so so amazing to see from Afar

1151
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 6: just what you have achieved in terms of your personal growth,

1152
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 6: but also what you're leading for your country.

1153
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 4: It's quite profound.

1154
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 6: Curious from your own game perspective, it's unbelievable to go

1155
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 6: back to back with hundreds in a big event where

1156
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 6: you're also carrying the load of leadership.

1157
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 4: How do you balance? I suppose it's a two part question.

1158
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 6: How do you balance preparing yourself as thoroughly as you

1159
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 6: need to and also contributing as a leader. And where

1160
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 6: have you made some refinements in your game that have

1161
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 6: continued to allow you to improve?

1162
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 7: Good question. I think it's easy for it to sort

1163
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 7: of become sort of a lot, especially when you're not

1164
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 7: performing well. It feels a bit overwhelming to sort of

1165
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 7: have to focus on your own performance and then the

1166
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 7: team stuff as well. But I think in world it's

1167
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 7: sort of it's not really about me or my performance.

1168
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 7: Especially in those games, it was really just about you know,

1169
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 7: doing anything that we can to win. So in those

1170
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 7: games it was just fully sort of team perspective. What

1171
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 7: I need to do as a captain and sort of

1172
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 7: ignored the batting, just hoping now it's sort of take

1173
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 7: care of itself. And I think that almost took a

1174
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 7: lot of pressure off the batting, not really worrying or

1175
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 7: thinking about it too much.

1176
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 4: And what was the second part of the question, I forget, No, the.

1177
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 6: Second part of the question was your own skill set

1178
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 6: refinements in terms of where you feel like you've evolved

1179
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 6: your game.

1180
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, obviously, I think growing up and starting in

1181
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 7: my international career sort of just had one or two

1182
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 7: shots through the off side and then teams started bawling

1183
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 7: a lot straighter to me, and I think in this

1184
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 7: World Cup I was able to sort of adapt to

1185
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 7: that pretty well. I think in the final they bowled

1186
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 7: really straight to me, and I was able to score

1187
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 7: quite a few runs through the legside, did a couple

1188
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 7: of sweep shots, which is kind of new. Just changing

1189
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 7: based on what they're bowling. I think has been big

1190
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 7: and just sort of being a little bit more aggressive

1191
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 7: in my ODII game plan. I think in the past

1192
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 7: I always bat it long, but sort of only struck

1193
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 7: around sixty seventy you know, strike rates, So just really

1194
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 7: been trying to get that up with sort of low

1195
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 7: risk options while still sort of looking abat through the innings.

1196
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 6: So you're still a really diligent journaler and reflector on

1197
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 6: your innings.

1198
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 7: Yeah. I still journal before every game, just sort of

1199
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 7: part of the routine, just sort of what I want

1200
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 7: to do. And it's always fun sort of reading back

1201
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 7: to previous journals. It's usually really similar entries. Like every

1202
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 7: time I come to Big Bash, it's pretty much the

1203
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 7: same things over and over, so I feel the same

1204
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 7: every year I come here. So yeah, it's quite cool

1205
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 7: having that sort of record of how I'm feeling.

1206
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 2: Or I want to go back to talking about, you know,

1207
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: discovering new shots and trying to improve your own game.

1208
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: We will talk about you beautiful cover.

1209
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: Drive shortly, but I'm interested in is that something that

1210
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: you use a mentor to try and work on. Is

1211
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: it something you spend a lot of time, you know,

1212
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: studying film in the nets? How was it that you

1213
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: came about about you know, it's almost problem solving to

1214
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: find different ways of being able to score runs.

1215
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we about a year ago we got

1216
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 7: a new bating coach in the soth African team, Bakia

1217
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 7: Abrams and he's been really great. I think he's sort

1218
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 7: of a super cricket nerd and would really dive deep

1219
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 7: into stats and footage and looking for all those little

1220
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 7: one percenters and that sort of thing. And I think

1221
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 7: he challenges me as well cricket wise, like we do

1222
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 7: a lot of reflections post games, and he'll sort of

1223
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 7: be honest and a bit brutal. Sometimes it will be like,

1224
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 7: you know, there's no forty five, why aren't you that thing?

1225
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 7: I've seen you do it in the nets. So he

1226
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 7: sort of pushes me to bring it out in the game,

1227
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 7: even when I don't feel quiet as comfortable. But it's

1228
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 7: been nice to have someone who really understands my game

1229
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 7: and sort of my mindset as well, just to keep

1230
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 7: chatting to him.

1231
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: So the cover drive, which is a thing of absolute beauty,

1232
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: I don't know You've been asked about it a lot,

1233
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: but I'm interested in the sort of the origins of it.

1234
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 3: Is it just something that it was easy for you

1235
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 3: to play?

1236
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: Was it something that you'd seen on television and you

1237
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: wanted to emulate. I really am keen to know the

1238
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: foundations of one of the best shots in world cricket

1239
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: that you play.

1240
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 7: I think growing up, I had this endoor center really

1241
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 7: close to me, and I had this coach, Laurie, and

1242
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 7: you'd have the ball machine and every single session we

1243
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 7: just set it up. I'll say it off because I'd

1244
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 7: always be opening the batting and I just sort of

1245
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 7: do it and repeat over and over. So I think

1246
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 7: it is probably a shot that I just practiced more

1247
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 7: than other shots, and it's just a really easy thing

1248
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 7: to practice with the ball machine. It's sort of the

1249
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 7: first thing you can set it up on, so it's

1250
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 7: probably a bit of repetition. And yeah, I guess opening

1251
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 7: the batting it's quite a nice shot to have, So.

1252
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, better than an ice shot. It's better than an

1253
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: ice shot. So but is it something that you it?

1254
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 3: Is it? I hope this makes sense. Is it your shot?

1255
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: Is it something that you Abdavilliers do or saw I

1256
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: don't know, at least Perry do and think, oh, that's

1257
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: that's a really good shot.

1258
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 3: I might try and hit it like that.

1259
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: Or is it something that it's your natural movements that

1260
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: see you play it so gracefully, so elegantly.

1261
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 7: I think it's just me. They never really never really

1262
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 7: saw anyone and try to copy it. I just, you know,

1263
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 7: just battered, and then people said, oh, you know, cool,

1264
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 7: cool cover drive.

1265
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, so it's actually Laura's shot, that's what.

1266
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 4: She owns it. She does play it quite uniquely. I

1267
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 4: think she plays it.

1268
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 6: Sometimes you watch to left hander's cover drive and you

1269
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 6: think they are the most elegant, But I think.

1270
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 4: Laura redefines how well right and it can play a

1271
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 4: cover drive, to.

1272
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 3: Be fair to her exactly.

1273
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 4: I'm curious because that is such a strength.

1274
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 6: Then how do you balance You talked about that evolution

1275
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 6: of your leg side game, and that's so obvious now,

1276
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 6: the power that you've been able to generate all around

1277
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 6: the ground.

1278
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 4: I love seeing you play the sweep shot as well.

1279
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 6: But how do you balance adding things to your game

1280
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 6: and not losing the quality of a strength like a

1281
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 6: cover drive.

1282
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's sort of and the thing that I guess

1283
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 7: struggled with a little bit this year. I didn't have

1284
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,479
Speaker 7: my best year up until the work up in ODI

1285
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 7: I cricket, especially because I had all these new things

1286
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 7: that I was sort of trying in the nets and

1287
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 7: been wanting to introduce them in games, but sort of

1288
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 7: getting the timing right because you don't want to forget

1289
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 7: and lose what you're good at, So all of a sudden,

1290
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 7: I'd be trying to you know, walk across in flickballs,

1291
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 7: whereas you know normally I'm cover driving that for four.

1292
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 7: So it's just finding that balance of still doing what

1293
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 7: I'm good at, but then introducing those shots at the

1294
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 7: right time. And I think it's all just game plan

1295
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 7: and conditions dependent. Obviously, if it's a nice flat wicket,

1296
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 7: I'll play my cover drives, but maybe if conditions don't

1297
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 7: allow it, then sort of try move on to a

1298
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 7: few other options on the day.

1299
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense.

1300
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: Going to make sure that no curators are watching this

1301
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: episode because we want to see the cover drive.

1302
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 3: You don't want to not say.

1303
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 6: The question I have will be is outside of cricket,

1304
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 6: So a non skill related thing that made the most

1305
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 6: impact on your cricket game.

1306
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 7: I've recently actually started this thing called I Jim. It's

1307
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 7: like a computer app where you do little eye drills

1308
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 7: and exercises, and I feel like it's actually really held

1309
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 7: my fielding in the last six to twelve months. You

1310
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 7: just do like ten minutes of a day per day

1311
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 7: and you like track little icons on the screen and

1312
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 7: hand I reaction and stuff. So I've been starting that.

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01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 7: I started that this year and I feel like it's

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Speaker 7: actually really helped on the field.

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Speaker 2: We might just need to speak to you after the

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Speaker 2: show and you write down that what that app actually is.

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Speaker 3: So we've I've asked you a lot about.

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Speaker 2: Your own cover drive and you know the impact that

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Speaker 2: you're having on the game of cricket in South Africa

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Speaker 2: around the world.

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Speaker 3: Who do you like watching when you're sitting watching the

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01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 3: WBBL Who are the ones you know?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to drop everything here, I'm going to sit

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Speaker 2: on the couch and watch the cricket because such and

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Speaker 2: such as Pie.

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Speaker 7: Probably Meg Lanning. I think I've said it before in

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Speaker 7: different interviews. I don't really like watching about always have.

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Speaker 7: I think just the way that she always scores runs

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Speaker 7: is crazy. And yeah, she's a pretty good film at

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Speaker 7: the moment. So it's been nice to watch her in

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Speaker 7: this tournament.

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Speaker 3: Very good.

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Speaker 2: Probably a good one to have on the list and

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Speaker 2: the strikers this year, Laura, how do you It's been

1335
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: a sort of a stop stop start sort of start

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Speaker 2: to the year. There's been a lot of frustrations around

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01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: the weather as well, and then all the international stars

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Speaker 2: like yourself coming back off the back of a World Cup.

1339
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're pretty tired. How do you think the

1340
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 2: Strikers are tracking at this.

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Speaker 3: Point in the season. We're nearly a third of the

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Speaker 3: way through.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, a bit of a mixed bag. Had the rain

1344
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 7: game and then one loss in one win. But I

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01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 7: think we got a couple of games back to back now,

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01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 7: so hopefully we can get some momentum. I think we

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01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 7: have a crazy bowling attack this year, obviously with Sophia

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01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 7: Colson joining a bowling attack which was already you know,

1349
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 7: pretty elite, it's very cool. So yeah, I'm looking forward

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01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 7: to the season. I think we've we've got a good balance,

1351
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 7: so really excited to hopefully win some more games.

1352
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 4: With your skipper's had on.

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01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 6: How do you get the most out of her given

1354
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 6: how good that lineup already is.

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01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm not in the in the bowling meetings here

1356
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 7: or in any of the leadership meetings. I'm just chilling

1357
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 7: and playing cricket. But yeah, I think for her, you know,

1358
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 7: she's such a good bowler and probably knows what she

1359
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 7: needs to do. I think she really enjoys being out

1360
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 7: in Australia as well, so just making sure she enjoys

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01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 7: her time, you know, in the tournament and enjoys her

1362
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 7: time on the field.

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Speaker 4: Ever, the diplomat well played.

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Speaker 6: That's a classic press conference skipper's response, if ever I

1365
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 6: heard one. Let's talk about your slippa. She's a great

1366
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 6: maid of yours, Charlie McGrath. Obviously her form hasn't been

1367
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 6: how she would hope. How is she traveling and where

1368
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 6: are her opportunities to kind of turn that around.

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Speaker 3: I think she's all right.

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Speaker 7: She's really good with sort of keeping cricket on the

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01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 7: cricket field and sort of not letting it effect any

1372
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 7: thing else in her life, which I need to get

1373
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 7: a lot better at. So got a lot to learn

1374
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 7: from her. I guess she has a pretty tough role

1375
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 7: in that Aussie side as well, not getting much much opportunity. Yeah,

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01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 7: she's a great cricketer. She's been hitting them pretty well

1377
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 7: in the net, so I have no doubt that she'll

1378
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 7: she'll whack them in the game to come.

1379
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 2: Just before we wrap things up, Laura, and we really

1380
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: appreciate your time today before about the strikers and how

1381
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: you're going you know, how to win titles. You've done

1382
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 2: it a couple of times in Blue. Do you feel

1383
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 2: that this team has got the capacity to get back

1384
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 2: there and do it again.

1385
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 7: Definitely pretty similar squad to what we had when we

1386
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 7: won those back to back titles. Pretty because it's just

1387
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 7: funny sometimes like last season we ran the bottom of

1388
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 7: the table and you don't really know what's what's sort

1389
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 7: of different. But I think it was maybe just a

1390
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 7: little wake up all that we needed. And it feels

1391
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 7: like like the the old Strikers of two seasons ago

1392
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 7: when we won that title. So yeah, just very excited.

1393
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 2: And how are you feeling? Because have had a grueling

1394
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: World Cup? Unlike the Australians that could only reach the semis,

1395
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 2: you at least got to the final and so your

1396
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 2: tournament went that little bit longer. But to have to

1397
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 2: come out to Australia for an extended period off the

1398
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 2: back of such a successful World Cup, I'm just interested

1399
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: in a your feeling more than anything else, not even.

1400
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: From a physical point of view, but just a mental

1401
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 3: point of view. No, I'm all right.

1402
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 7: I thought initially near the end of the World Cup

1403
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 7: it felt like it was getting long and I didn't know,

1404
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 7: if you know, coming here was sort of the best idea,

1405
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 7: but ever since I got here, it sort of just

1406
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 7: feels like a breath of fresher, you know, a new squad,

1407
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 7: new environment obviously look after us really well as this

1408
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 7: tournament sort of set up in a really nice apartment

1409
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 7: in Adelaide and place I know well as well, so

1410
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 7: it sort of, yeah, it feels like a second home

1411
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 7: and sort of feel re energized to go. So all good.

1412
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 6: You're so loyal to the Strikers, will be What is

1413
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 6: it that you love most about the environment, whether it's Adelaide,

1414
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 6: whether it's the franchise itself.

1415
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 4: What keeps you coming back?

1416
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 3: The people?

1417
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 7: I think just coming back and it's the same people

1418
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 7: every year, and everyone's always so nice and sort of

1419
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 7: goes out of their way to make me feel comfortable

1420
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 7: and settle in. Well, I'm a bit awkward with new

1421
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 7: teams and new setups, so yeah, I just really enjoy

1422
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 7: being able to come back here and see all the

1423
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 7: same faces. I think Luca is amazing as well. I

1424
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 7: really enjoy sort of working with him. I love the

1425
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 7: way he sort of goes about it. He's really calm,

1426
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 7: really chilled, and just like his sort of attitude towards cricket.

1427
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: So and just finally the impact will sort of finished

1428
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 2: the conversation where we started it, the impact of what

1429
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: you did for South Africa in the World Cup. What

1430
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 2: do you think it might do to the country of

1431
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 2: South Africa for young women that might want to now

1432
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 2: take up the game or can sort of consolidate that

1433
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: this is a sport that we can be really good at.

1434
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, by the sounds of it, obviously haven't really

1435
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 7: been back home yet, but by the sounds of it,

1436
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 7: it sounded like everyone was following the cricket and watching it.

1437
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 7: You know, speak to my mum and all of her

1438
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 7: friends are watching it, all of her friends kids are

1439
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 7: watching it. So I just hope there were so many

1440
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 7: young girls who sort of had a light ball moment

1441
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 7: that there is women's cricket in the country and that

1442
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 7: you know, we're actually pretty good and you can make

1443
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 7: a career out of it. So just really hoping that

1444
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 7: a lot of young girls take up the sport because

1445
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 7: of it. And yeah, it seems like it is, because

1446
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 7: there's a lot of people that have reached out to

1447
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 7: say that they really enjoyed watching us.

1448
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 6: So oh wonderful and unique to have a legacy while

1449
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 6: you're still in the game with so much to give

1450
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 6: all it's remarkable.

1451
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 2: Congratulations, thanks Laura, Thank you so much for joining us

1452
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: on the surge.

1453
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 3: Really appreciate it.

1454
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: Whenever we get a chance to speak to one of

1455
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 2: the superstars of the game. What we think, it's pretty

1456
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: special and I know our viewers and listeners do as well.

1457
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: So congratulations on what you did with South Africa and

1458
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: also good luck for the rest of the season with

1459
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 2: the Strikers.

1460
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you so much for having me Laura.

1461
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 2: Wolvar joining us there start from South Africa and star

1462
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 2: of the WBBL with the Strikers, Kirby.

1463
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 3: That is it for the episode. We're done.

1464
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: We've had two superstars on the show, Annabelle and also Laura,

1465
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: so it's been a bit special, hasn't that spoiled?

1466
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 4: Absolutely spoiled today.

1467
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 3: Whity absolutely so.

1468
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 2: Just a reminder also, we have spoken about this before

1469
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 2: that you can still win that altimate prize of fifteen

1470
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: thousand dollars with the BKT Big Bash Tipping. All you

1471
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 2: have to do is download the Big Bash app to

1472
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 2: get involved, and of course not only the tipping, but

1473
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 2: all the news information highlights they're all there on the

1474
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 2: WBBL or with the WBBL through the Big Bash app.

1475
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 3: That's it for us for this week.

1476
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 2: We'll catch you again very soon with another edition of

1477
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: the Surge