1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: And we know that a highly pathnogenic and aggressive worm 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: which affects the crop yield of fruit and veggies, has 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: been detected in the top end. Now it's the first 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: time that the pest has been found in the country 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: and Chief Plant Health Officer doctor Anne Walters joins me 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: on the line to tell us a little bit more. 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: Good morning to you. 8 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 2: Anne, Hello, how you going? 9 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: You're really good? Thank you And can you tell me 10 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: more about this worm. 11 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: Yes, it's called guabo rootnot nematode. It's a microscopic pest 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: that we've found at four starts in Darwin. We found 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: it at middle Point, at Gingerly, at Malac and at Palmerstan, 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: so you can see that it has already is quite widespread. 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: What we did was we had a report from some 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: cucumbers that were basically failing, and obviously did some diagnostics 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: and it came back as this particular nematode. 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Okay, and tell me exactly what kind of plants it's 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: targeting and the damage that it does. 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's got a really widee which is why it's 21 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: such a devastating test and includes things like tomatoes, capsicaan eggplant, watermelon, 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: sweet potato, and potato, soybeans and cucumber and guava, so 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: it's got a really wide home post range. What the 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: pest does is, as I said, it's microscopic. It sort 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: of drills into the roots of the plant and it 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: will basically live there, and the plant's response is to 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: form these gauls on the roots, and over time, basically 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: the plant just starts to die. And what you see 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: is very poor yield. The plant's not looking good. And 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: it's not until you actually pull the plant out and 31 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: have a look at the roots that you see these 32 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: gulls on there that are typical of this particular path. 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: So, and you know, for us Layman's listening this morning, 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: does it impact Is it more of an impact for 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: consumers people sort of eating their fruit and veg or 36 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: for those growers, And yeah, yeah. 37 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: It's very much more an impact for growers, yep. But 38 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: it doesn't actually affect the produce. So it won't affect 39 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: necessarily the sweet potato unless you have really really bad infestation. 40 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: But generally for people like you and I who were 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: just eating our sweet potato, there's no real impact for us. 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: But it's the people that are growing the sweet potato 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: that have really reduced yields, and so they're growing plants, 44 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: but they're getting so fifty per cent of the yield 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: as an example, that's when it's a real impact on them. 46 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: How did you detect it in the territory. 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: Well, we were just really lucky. And this is where 48 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: the great relationship we have with growers are fantastic. Because 49 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: one of our growers contacted us and said, look, my 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: keycumbers aren't doing very well. Can someone come out and 51 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: have a look. And some of our plant pathologies went 52 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: out and had a look and said this doesn't look right. 53 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: It took some samples and this is what was coming 54 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: back with. 55 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: So at this point in time, do you have any 56 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: idea how it seemed up here? 57 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: No, it's a really interesting question. We've started doing some 58 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: tracing work. But the thing about this particular pest is 59 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: that it can move around, like I said, on the 60 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: roots of things. But the key movement pathway we think 61 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: is through soil, so people moving soil around, a loading 62 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: from soil into your trailer and moving it around. Alternatively, 63 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: it can move on soil and equipment and machinery as 64 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: well as on people's boots, so it can move really easily, 65 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: and that's where it's a really big problem. 66 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: So what steps need to be taken now to try 67 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: to stop the spread as much as we can. 68 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what we're telling people is to be really vigilant. 69 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: If you're moving from your place to someone's property, obviously, 70 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: just take care to clean your boots so that you're 71 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: not spreading it onto a commercial or orchard or property. 72 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: The other thing that we are asking our goal is 73 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: to do is be really careful with their biosecurity practices, 74 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: so you know, make sure that you've got your protocols 75 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: in place and that you're following them really vigilantly. 76 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: Okay, And what's surveillanceing is the department doing to really 77 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: try to stay on top of this and hopefully halt 78 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: the spread. 79 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what we are doing is we are asking 80 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: people to let us know if you notice that your 81 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: plants aren't looking too good and that you want someone 82 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: to come out alternatively, if you want to take example, 83 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: so if you want to pull some plants out and 84 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: tend in the roots. We'll obviously be really grateful for 85 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: samples that people can in and we're in contact with 86 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: our commercial growers just to get some samples from them 87 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: and to have them looking out for this particular path. 88 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: And you've touched on the different areas where you believe 89 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: this worm is at the moment, do you have any 90 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: idea how many properties it's impacting. 91 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: Well, they're the only four that we're aware of at 92 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: the moment, and so that's what a lot of our 93 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: work is, just getting people to contact us and say hey, 94 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: I'm a bit concerned and we can get some samples 95 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: from them. So that's probably the best way for us 96 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: to get as much information as quickly as we can. 97 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and so and is this worm like is 98 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: it in others? It's obviously in other parts of Australia 99 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: at the moment, but what kind of impact is it 100 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: causing in some of the places where it is already 101 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: been identified? 102 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: Unfortunately we are the first ones in Australia to find it. Wow, 103 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: big issue that we have. So it's the first time 104 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: it's ever been found in Australia before. There are other species, sorry, 105 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: other species of this particular nematody in other places, such 106 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: as in Queensland and New South Wales, but not this 107 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: particular one. Fortunately, this one is a very bad nematode. 108 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: Goodness me. So we're actually the first in Australia to 109 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: have this, and by the sounds of it, it is 110 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: a worry. 111 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 2: It is a real worry for us. Absolutely. 112 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: What you know is what's sort of been the feedback 113 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: then from some of those commercial growers and producers. They 114 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: must be pretty concerned at this point. 115 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, obviously industry is concerned. And the great thing 116 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: is we've only got the one commercial grower that's affected 117 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: at the moment. The other science are residential coperties and 118 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: a community garden, which is really great from that perspective. 119 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 2: The grower that is affected has been fantastic. He's looking 120 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: at alternative crops that he can plant because obviously the 121 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: issue that we have with his particular nematodi is that 122 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: it will stay in the soil for thirteen months even 123 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: after you remove the host plant. Yeah, so he's looking 124 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: to find another plant that he can plant during that 125 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: time and leave the soil so that the nematode will 126 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: basically die out. So he's been really fantastic, can pragmatic him, 127 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: very grateful for his response and his approach. 128 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what, I think that every territory 129 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: in listening this morning is going to want to do 130 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: everything that they can to make sure that we don't 131 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: see this spread. You know, what can we do as 132 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: just ordinary territorians to make sure that you know that 133 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: we try to help out these growers and try to 134 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: do the right thing by them. 135 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fantastic, and obviously if the community can get 136 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: behind the growers, that would be amazing. If you do 137 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: have any concerns or any samples that you want to 138 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: send in to us, please contact Plant buy a Security 139 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 2: at the Department of Industry, Tourism and Trade and we 140 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 2: would be very pleased to answer any questions but also 141 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: to take any samples. Well. 142 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: Chief Plant Health Officer, Doctor Anne Walters, I really appreciate 143 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: your time this morning, and thank you very much for 144 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: sort of letting us know exactly what the situation is 145 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: with this worm. But you know, I guess also making 146 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: sure that we're all aware of the concerns here so 147 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: that we can do our best to try to support 148 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: our growers, but also make sure that if we are 149 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: concerned about any thing that's maybe our yards as well. 150 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that it can also be spread into those 151 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: domestic sort of locations. 152 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct, and so if people do notice anything 153 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: that's a little bit unusual obviously, please get in contact 154 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: with us and we will do everything we can to 155 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: try and support people through this time. 156 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Doctor and Walters, thank you so much for your time 157 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: this morning. 158 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: Such a pleasure. Thank you for having me. 159 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: Thank you