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Speaker 1: Podcast nine Our Voices, Quick Heads Up.

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Speaker 2: This podcast can sometimes get a bit rough on bros

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Speaker 2: and cons. We talk about real life and we're committed

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Speaker 2: to having open conversations with no filter. Some experiences and

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Speaker 2: tastes can be challenging to digest, so if you're easily rattled,

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Speaker 2: you'd probably want to sit this one out. Listener discretion

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get it, and he goes, Bro, I'm

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Speaker 2: getting baptized today because of you and also because of

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Speaker 2: your brothers, because of the podcast. You guys changed my life.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, insane, lad, Brian Goose. Months. At that moment,

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Speaker 2: I just I felt like I was like, Brah, how

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Speaker 2: did I get this guy baptized? And I haven't even

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Speaker 2: but get got baptized?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And.

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Speaker 2: I was struggling. I was thinking like, Brah, my brothers

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Speaker 2: aren't here, I'm not wearing the right clothes to get wet.

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Speaker 2: And then right at that moment, I thought about when

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Speaker 2: when Jesus walked on Calvary Hill, he wasn't waiting for

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Speaker 2: the right people to watch. He also wasn't waiting to

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Speaker 2: wear the right garment.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: If anything, he was walking naked rip carrying a three

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Speaker 2: hundred pound cross. I think three hundred. All I know

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Speaker 2: is that, Yeah, the core came and he answered, and

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Speaker 2: he done everything that was supposed to be done right

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Speaker 2: there on the spot. And that's the kind of person

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Speaker 2: I want to be as a Christian. I want to

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Speaker 2: do everything on the spot.

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Speaker 3: God, this guy, Ladies and gentlemen, it's bros and cons.

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Speaker 3: I've been doing that introduction too, must We're going to

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Speaker 3: do it different. We're going to jump straight into this

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Speaker 3: topic baptism. Lads, everyone and put your hands together, because

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Speaker 3: the brother Jay Lex has got baptized this week and is.

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Speaker 1: Tell us a bit about your baptism.

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Speaker 2: Lad It was. It was crazy. So our church stunning

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Speaker 2: get fuller and fuller, slowly becoming a bit of a

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Speaker 2: celebrity church there. I reckon if that church gets bonded

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Speaker 2: a lot of important people, see glad the world. I

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Speaker 2: always think about weird stuff. But anyway, Yeah, came came

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Speaker 2: to church last Sunday. I actually missed the whole sermon

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Speaker 2: because every Sunday morning, I do hiking with my high crew.

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Speaker 1: I got.

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Speaker 2: I've got a couple of mates and we all we

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Speaker 2: all go hiking. We do different trailers every Sunday morning,

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Speaker 2: early early in the morning. And then sometimes I missed

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Speaker 2: the sermon, so I didn't want to go, but my

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Speaker 2: missas just kept pushing us to go. Anyway, we ended

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Speaker 2: up going and Bro, it was packed. It was more

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Speaker 2: packed than overseen. A lot of a lot of good,

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Speaker 2: A lot of important people were there. LISSI was there.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Lissi from Brisbane.

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Speaker 1: Since when, since when did we need nagarun here? It's yeah,

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Speaker 1: And what's Li doing in Sydney? Bro? He lives here

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Speaker 1: now in the area.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that was supposed to be something

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Speaker 2: low key, so we our apologies.

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Speaker 1: Is in Sydney, welcome the very here loud he lad

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Speaker 1: in the Western Na might as well drop another name.

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Speaker 1: I've seen them the other day in Paramouna. You're a

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Speaker 1: gifted athlete.

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Speaker 2: Jina and Truck smashed every record. We have a lot

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Speaker 2: of important we are coming to Sydney. We also have

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Speaker 2: another exciting person coming to Sydney who will be on

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Speaker 2: this month. But I think we'll just wait until that

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Speaker 2: person comes. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh this is special one. Yeah yeah, tell us about

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Speaker 1: your baptism?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: What is important about getting baptized?

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Speaker 2: So so it's been something that I've been It's one

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Speaker 2: of those things I just kept putting off, you know,

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Speaker 2: being that we always speak about, like what's really essential

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Speaker 2: to go to heaven? Now? Is it essential? Probably not?

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Speaker 2: But as a Christian we're called to live like Christ

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Speaker 2: and follow what he did, and him getting baptized himself

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Speaker 2: get baptized together. Ye do something together.

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Speaker 1: It was about it only a week ago and.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and we were going to do it together. But

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Speaker 2: I was there and as I was there, Bro, as

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Speaker 2: me and he goes, Bro, you j Lex. I go yeah,

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Speaker 2: you and also because of your brothers, because of the

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Speaker 2: podcast you guys changed my life. Well yeah, insane lad

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Speaker 2: bro goosebumps. And at that moment, I just I felt

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Speaker 2: like I was like, brah, how did I get this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And.

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Speaker 2: I was struggling. I was thinking like, Brah, my brothers

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Speaker 2: Jesus walked on Calvary Hill. He wasn't waiting for the

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Speaker 2: right people to watch. He also wasn't waiting to wear

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Speaker 2: But I know, all I know is that, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: he the core came and he answered, and he'd done

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Speaker 2: the spot. And that's the kind of person I want

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Speaker 2: to be as a Christian. I want to do everything

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Speaker 2: on the spot, on the go, you know, not waiting,

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Speaker 2: not procrastinating. So yeah, right there, and then I just

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Speaker 2: I just, yeah, I went and got it done. Glad

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Speaker 2: a lot of other things that we're doing this year,

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Speaker 2: like the Parkly Prison. We got a lot of big things.

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Speaker 2: The radio thing. I don't know. Have we announced that

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Speaker 2: the radio thing.

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Speaker 1: No, No, that's the secret.

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Speaker 3: So we'll announce that when it happens. But for now,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of things happening in the works Parkly.

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Speaker 1: I'm the side for.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of things happening, and so I think

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Speaker 2: the main reason why I wanted to get baptized, get

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Speaker 2: we're walking by faith and not by sight.

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Speaker 1: Amen amen, amen. But no, I love it.

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Speaker 3: And in addition to that, we've actually got on a

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Speaker 3: I'll save that for that time. But yeah, it's actually

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Speaker 3: so important to get baptized. For me personally, I haven't

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Speaker 3: really dived into baptism. I know there's there's Christians that

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Speaker 2: A baby blessing or is that baby baptist.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty much a baby baptist.

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Speaker 3: Correct me if I'm wrong, But yeah, some I think

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Speaker 3: it's old tradition culture or something like in the Catholic

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in the Catholic Yeah it didn't they have

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Speaker 2: that big bowl. Yeah? And bro, I've seen some pretty

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen those ones that are pretty rough when

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Speaker 1: Oh, I know that.

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Speaker 2: I've seen ones where the babies will cry and and

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Speaker 2: The baby is crying, and they get slapped. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: Which is a very very very mild response, mind you,

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Speaker 2: because me personally, my kids are like very much part

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Speaker 3: Just say, you know, this is only like like particular

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Speaker 3: churches that have done this, not Yeah, it's not a

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: And it's also like it's more of a like a

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Speaker 1: So yeah, just in case, like some of you guys

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Speaker 2: Actually need to look into it. You know, anything about

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Speaker 2: this only about the biblical baptisms, Like what do they

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Speaker 1: It can't just be yeah, it can't just be anyone.

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Speaker 2: But I've seen other podcasters talk about this, But I

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Speaker 1: What the point? Yeah, what the point is?

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Speaker 2: So and the point is to get is to eventually

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Speaker 3: I's all say to as a believers believer, this is

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Speaker 3: a full adult, grown adult getting baptized, because you have

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Speaker 3: to be full knowing in what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna fully what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: And so I heard some Christians were arguing that babies

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Speaker 2: Because apparently I do remember reading something saying baptism is

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Speaker 2: can't you can't publicly declare that if you're a baby. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So it's it makes more sense to in the biblical

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Speaker 2: term why they were baptizing adults, you know, not babies.

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Speaker 3: Just because it I believe in that. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's anything wrong. Is there in babies getting baptized. No,

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Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with that anything.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's more of a baby blessing is yeah, because

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Speaker 2: that would make more sense to me. But the water, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's leaning more towards baptism. Yeah, but broh, the public

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Speaker 2: declaration is a big thing and also another fact the

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Speaker 2: why I wanted to do it to obviously, to show

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Speaker 2: it because some of my mates aren't they're not ready

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Speaker 2: me to do it, because I do know for a

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Speaker 2: for everything we've done, you know. And Jesus says, he

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Speaker 3: But but once someone's gonna like wake up one day

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's why. And I know these atheists

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, you know what, I agree with

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Speaker 3: got to know someone that knows someone. And then by

438
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Speaker 3: the time you know seven people that can make get

439
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 3: you up there, you've got seven people taken out of

440
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 3: your plate. Yeah, and then you end up like you

441
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 3: just end up an average nine o five are going

442
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 3: to the studio every day to make you know, you.

443
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Speaker 2: Know what's matter as well? What you said like, even

444
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 2: though we're not, we're like, we're obviously not pushing anyone

445
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 2: to become a Christian, but you could see that if

446
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: we evolved over time as well, because we weren't practicing

447
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 2: Christians when we started this, you could see that we were.

448
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: Slowly slowly were slowly changing.

449
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 2: We were slowly changing, and you can see it when

450
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 2: you when you look for the podcast, you can see

451
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: the way we talk, the way we hold ourselves now.

452
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 2: Our hearts are so light that we just we don't

453
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 2: care about it anything anymore. You know, we don't care

454
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: about impressing life. I'll be honest with you, a lot

455
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: of you guys that are Christians in the closet, who

456
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 2: really are you trying to impress? You know, especially those

457
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: of you guys that have kids and you have a missus.

458
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Speaker 3: Gotta I gotta admit, but like I I'm locked out

459
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Speaker 3: on the outside. Outside of this podcast. You won't hear

460
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Speaker 3: me speak about my faith the Bible. I don't go

461
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: around to people talking about that stuff. But when it

462
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Speaker 3: comes to somewhere where it matters, that's what I'm what

463
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Speaker 3: I say. I understand, I understand that maybe some of

464
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Speaker 3: you guys have will be holding back, but when it

465
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 3: does matters, matter, it matters, it matters a lot and

466
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Speaker 3: it helps to to what you said before. The way

467
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 3: we were at the start, we were locked at for

468
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 3: about a year. We were just still make a stupid decisions,

469
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 3: but we still came down to the We still kept

470
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 3: the morals of you know, respected sisters, respect the women.

471
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 3: We had all these these attributes even as criminals, even

472
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Speaker 3: no matter what we've done, we knew that we had

473
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Speaker 3: to come back to our wife. We knew that we

474
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Speaker 3: we couldn't just go step on someone's tournes for nothing

475
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Speaker 3: like a lot of the attributes we already had.

476
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Speaker 2: And even the relationship ones as well, which has been

477
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: that's been an interesting turn. We've been, we've become, We've become.

478
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: I've had so many message people asking me for relationship advice,

479
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: and uh, both boys and girls, boys and girls that

480
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: uh they I think of. I don't know how, but

481
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,479
Speaker 2: some reason, I've become a guru that knows who's the field,

482
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 2: who's in the row. I think I had one couple

483
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Speaker 2: as well. I'm not gonna name them, but oh they're

484
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: not someone known, but uh, the guy and the girl

485
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 2: messaged me from from their account explaining this side of

486
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Speaker 2: what happened. I think they went for an argument on

487
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: something and they were trying to get me on on

488
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 2: on either side. Yeah, and I think this there's a

489
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 2: lot of issues they in the relationship quote today, the

490
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 2: way relationships are, there's a lot of generic things that

491
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: are hidden behind insecurity, like say, if a man, if

492
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: a man says if a man wants to stop something,

493
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Speaker 2: then his insecure, which is completely false, completely false, Like

494
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: obviously the far is it? The far right is Andrew

495
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Speaker 2: take the far right where he says that women are

496
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Speaker 2: his property. When I ruin.

497
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Speaker 1: There's left one year and then he'll go.

498
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Speaker 2: The way you see. So he takes it so far

499
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Speaker 2: fetch to the point where he rage bits like women

500
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: women should be man's property. No, not like that. But

501
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: at the same time, if you are in a committed relationship,

502
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: there are things that you cannot do. Like you obviously

503
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: can do whatever you want, but if you want a

504
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: relationship that's going to last and it's going to be

505
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 2: fruitful and you're going to have kids and multiplying, there

506
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: are certain guidelines I think that you shouldn't do. And

507
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Speaker 2: I think we have a video for that as well.

508
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we have a video saying that.

509
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Speaker 3: I really feel like, even after this video, we might

510
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: make a whole episode a topic about relationships. Because I

511
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: did have a few youngins reached out to me. I

512
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 3: was talking about a breakups and something I didn't really

513
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Speaker 3: want to speak on at the moment. Because every man

514
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: is usually supposed to find his own way out. You

515
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: get chucked in the deep, then as men we find

516
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Speaker 3: that own way out, Like you know, there's no advice

517
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Speaker 3: so so.

518
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Speaker 2: But yeah, supposedly Larry Wills, which is I'm a big

519
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: fan of Larry Wheels. I love Larry Wills. I love

520
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,239
Speaker 2: Larry Wills watching him ever since I got into bodybuilding. Bro,

521
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: I love this guy. Yeah. Hey, what would you do

522
00:25:59,600 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: Larry Will?

523
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Speaker 1: I've seen him a few times.

524
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Speaker 2: Ronnie, what would you say Larry Wheels? Is when you

525
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: look at the whole percentage of the market of men, like,

526
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Speaker 2: would you say he's in the top He's in the

527
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Speaker 2: top five, Bro, I would say he's in the top

528
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Speaker 2: one percent. Lad, you know what? Okay, he only han't

529
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: looked around. He's got the money, he's got super cars. Yeah,

530
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: he's like relatively like he's not bad looking. Yeah no,

531
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: but he's got the body as well. Yeah, he's got everything.

532
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 2: He's got everything. Yeah, everything.

533
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: He's got a divorce to right, and this guy.

534
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: The top fifty arguably as well. He's one of the

535
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Speaker 2: strongest men in the world. He entered a lot of

536
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: strong men competitions. You would think that this is any

537
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: girl's dream. Yeah, I beged for his best friend was

538
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: a strong man, also a bodybuilder too, and he passed

539
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: away that his best friend was with him on his

540
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: way up content creating and everything. Big black dude, bar

541
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Speaker 2: All right, what's this?

542
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Speaker 1: Oh? Sh the fins one second even then yeah, let's

543
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: let's go. Did you see all viral clips from runs

544
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: and we have?

545
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: That's so funny. First of all, people writing like I'm

546
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: feeling him touching my hair or whatever. Huh, I don't.

547
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he's fine, but no, no, he's not my type.

548
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Not very nice.

549
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I noticed that. She didn't say no, no,

550
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: I just said I just said, yeah, he's okay, but no, like,

551
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: he's not my type, Larry giving her the death there.

552
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: I mean, all doing respect to him.

553
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: I'm like older guys, like I like the my age,

554
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: or he's a bit younger than me, a couple of

555
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 2: years younger than me. So I mean, guys, it's only

556
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: one guy for you to like. No, but I mean,

557
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: like in d like, if I find somebody attract him,

558
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: then yeah, it's definitely not I can acknowledge somebody looks good.

559
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: That's a tough watch, but it was. It was tough

560
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: to watch that.

561
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: He goes poor Larry bro I love Larry Man.

562
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Speaker 3: I think she started she said that I was feeling

563
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: him touching my hair. No, I think he started it. No, no, no, no,

564
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: I think she said I felt him touched in my hair.

565
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: And then he goes, oh was he Tucky's he already

566
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 3: sparked it up.

567
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: Look, I think he already planted this seed in his head.

568
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: No then, but yeah, I watched I watched another video

569
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: as well, where like Larry Reels, he seems like a

570
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: nice guy. You know, he seems like a nice guy

571
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 2: because uh, they were in the Rings and Rampage Jackson

572
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: was like, was like talking about his wife and then

573
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: Larry Whels just laughed it off and said, oh, you

574
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: should try her, like to wrestle with her, and Rampage

575
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: Jackson was like, and he started laughing, like trying to

576
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: joke it off, and it was just such a wrong

577
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: timing why he said that and then Rampage Jackson. But

578
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: I know why because I've watched a lot of Larry's

579
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: content and he's just that type of person. He's a

580
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: very like, open, bubbly kind of person. Obviously that came

581
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 2: back to bite him in the art.

582
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: Can't bro, your missus is your property. Bro, I'm gonna

583
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: quay what day.

584
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: Nah jokes outside, but you can't make silly jokes about

585
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 3: your partner. Your partner is supposed to be a queen,

586
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: not some little side girl that you're walking around with.

587
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: She's supposed to be respected from you as well. If

588
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: you cheat her as a joke, the other boy's gonna

589
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: cheat her as a joke.

590
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: He liked the way she conducted herself like talking about

591
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: Rampage Jackson. That conversation there right there, just then. Whether

592
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: whether you like it or not, me personally, that conversation

593
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't happen in my relationship any time of my life.

594
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: That will never happen the way it did the way

595
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: and I don't care. You can call me insecure. I

596
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: don't mind. Like's there's certain things that OH allow, certain

597
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: things I won't. And is he here? Oh we gotta

598
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 2: oh mate, we're gonna we can ramble so much about this.

599
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: But lucky, you guys got saved by the bell. And

600
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: I was just about to drop a new clean on news.

601
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: He's a lucky I'm gonna let you get away with

602
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: this one.

603
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: We've gotta guess coming in. I've gotta guess coming in.

604
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: So we'll see you guys in a bit and we'll

605
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: catch up with you guys again about all of this

606
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: relationship young, Let's go let us