WEBVTT - Summer series: The case against Diddy explained

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<v Speaker 1>Already and this this is the daily This is the

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<v Speaker 1>Daily os oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning and welcome to the Daly Ohs. I'm Zara,

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<v Speaker 1>and over the next little while, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>bringing you a bonus series featuring our favorite deep dives

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty twenty four. We've put together the best deep

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<v Speaker 1>dives to listen to on the beach, road, tripping when

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to talk to the person next to you,

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<v Speaker 1>or just reflecting on the year that was. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>tda's summer series. Earlier this year, I'd say the world

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<v Speaker 1>was really rocked by really severe allegations that were made

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<v Speaker 1>against a very prominent rapper, producer, and entrepreneur. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Sean Combs, but he goes by Diddy, and in

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<v Speaker 1>today's deep Dive, we unpack all of the allegations that

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<v Speaker 1>were leveled at diddy O for the past couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a quick note, though, since we have recorded this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>did he has been the subject of additional lawsuits. Those

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuits are also accusing him of sexual assault. Those allegations

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<v Speaker 1>are on top of the ones that we discuss in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. But Did He has similarly rejected these accusations too.

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<v Speaker 1>This continues to be an evolving story, which we will

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<v Speaker 1>of course keep you updated on next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Zara, So today we are talking about Sean Diddy

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<v Speaker 2>Comb's AKAP Diddy aka path Daddy, a string of allegations

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<v Speaker 2>that he is currently facing. Now, this is a story

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<v Speaker 2>that's completely rocked the music industry, the entertainment industry more broadly,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has really far reaching implications. But let's start

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<v Speaker 2>from the beginning. There are a lot of layers to this,

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<v Speaker 2>as we'll get to for anyone who isn't familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>this story with this man who is Diddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Sean Diddy Combs, and you referred there to

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<v Speaker 1>his many names. He's known as Puff Daddy, p Diddy, Puffy,

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<v Speaker 1>and Diddy. He's a rapper and a producer, and just

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<v Speaker 1>I think for clarity, we'll just call him Diddy throughout

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast because I think that's how most people our

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<v Speaker 1>age would know him and would certainly be familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>him through that name. So did He founded bad Boy

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<v Speaker 1>Records back in nineteen ninety three, and that was a

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<v Speaker 1>really big music label that represented some of the world's

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<v Speaker 1>biggest and most famous rappers, including the Notorious Big. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a three time Grammy Award winner. He's worked with people

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<v Speaker 1>like Mariah Carey, Mary J. Blige, Usher, and Faith Evans.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also done a bit of acting. He starred in

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<v Speaker 1>Monster's Ball, Get Him to the Greek and Draft Day.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do really just want to say here, I'm not,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, running through his resume for any reason, but

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<v Speaker 1>to show the extent of Ditty's power. He kind of

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<v Speaker 1>had this power that wasn't just contained, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>to the music industry, but more broadly, he had really

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<v Speaker 1>shaped the foundations of the entertainment industry.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a businessman, you might know him from Sarok vodka, like,

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<v Speaker 2>he is an entrepreneur in many different industries.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so he was until very recently, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most powerful figures in the entertainment industry.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've mentioned there very poignantly until recently. So when

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<v Speaker 2>did we first learn of the allegations against Diddy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I think that it is important to go

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<v Speaker 1>through this timeline because the news of this month didn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen in a vacuum. There were previous allegations that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of led to what happened earlier this month, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to that in a second, but we'll start with

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<v Speaker 1>the first allegations that were leveled at Ditty, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were in twenty twenty three, and they were made by

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<v Speaker 1>former partner Cassandra Ventura. She's known as Cassie. She is

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<v Speaker 1>a singer. So Cassie accused Ditty of sexual assault back

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<v Speaker 1>then in twenty twenty three. At the time, her lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>described him as vicious, cruel and a controlling man. Did

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<v Speaker 1>He denied all of the allegations, and just one day

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<v Speaker 1>after Cassie filed that lawsuit, the matter was settled out

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<v Speaker 1>of court. Then, in May of this year, CNN published

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<v Speaker 1>I think what can only be labeled as very disturbing

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<v Speaker 1>footage that appeared to show Diddy kicking and dragging Cassie

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<v Speaker 1>in a hotel hallway that dated back to twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>In a video to Instagram, did He apologized for what

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<v Speaker 1>he called his quote inexcusable behavior, but he didn't name

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie in that statement. Cassie wasn't the only person to

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<v Speaker 1>file legal action against Didty in recent years. Earlier this year,

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<v Speaker 1>music producer Rodney Jones, who goes by Lil Rod, filed

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<v Speaker 1>a lawsuit against him. Jones alleged that did he spiked

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<v Speaker 1>the drinks of miners and sex workers at his homes

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<v Speaker 1>in California, New York, Florida, and the US Virgin Islands.

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<v Speaker 1>When those allegations were made public, did he denied all

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<v Speaker 1>of them. And then, if we're to follow this timeline,

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<v Speaker 1>in March of this year, US authorities raided didt He's

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<v Speaker 1>proper in both LA and Miami. Those were part of

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing investigations by federal authorities that culminated in a lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>very recently. But what we've since found out is that

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<v Speaker 1>at his homes, authorities uncovered things like firearms, ammunition, and

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<v Speaker 1>also more than a thousand bottles of lubricant.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that was in March. We knew that those

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<v Speaker 2>police raids were going on, but we didn't really hear

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<v Speaker 2>anything in the immediate aftermath of what was found. So

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<v Speaker 2>since then we can assume investigators have been working on

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<v Speaker 2>this case against him, looking at the evidence recovered from

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<v Speaker 2>those homes. And earlier this month, did he was arrested

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<v Speaker 2>and charged in New York?

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<v Speaker 1>Correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you talk me through the charges that are now

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<v Speaker 2>being leveled against him?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So, as you said, earlier this month, did He

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<v Speaker 1>was arrested. It was then a day later that the

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<v Speaker 1>charges that had been leveled at him were made public.

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<v Speaker 1>So Damian Williams, who's the US Attorney for the Southern

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<v Speaker 1>District of New York, announced the charges against did He

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<v Speaker 1>in a public press conference. We found out that Didty

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<v Speaker 1>was being charged with racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking by force,

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<v Speaker 1>fraud or coercion, and transportation to engage with prostitution. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of the press conference when Williams announced those charges.

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<v Speaker 3>The indicatement alledges that between at least two thousand and

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<v Speaker 3>eight and the present Comb's abused, threatened, and coerce victims

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<v Speaker 3>to fulfill his sexual desires, protect his reputation, and conceal

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<v Speaker 3>his conduct as a legend. The indictment to carry out

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<v Speaker 3>this conduct Shaan colmbs led and participated in a racketeering

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<v Speaker 3>conspiracy that used the business empire he controlled to carry

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<v Speaker 3>out criminal activity.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I know that there is a fair bit of

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<v Speaker 1>legal jargon in those charges, so I think it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to just explain what's being alleged here. Ultimately, what they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying is that Diddy used his business empire to carry

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<v Speaker 1>out this alleged criminal activity things including sex trafficking, forced labor,

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<v Speaker 1>kit napping, ars and bribery, and the obstruction of justice.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, one of those charges, as you mentioned, uses the

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<v Speaker 2>word racketeering. I think that's a word that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>gets thrown around a lot. People don't really know what

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<v Speaker 2>it means. But in this case, it just means making

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<v Speaker 2>money from illegal activity. So the allegations are that Diddy

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<v Speaker 2>has used his business empire for illegal activity, and he

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<v Speaker 2>makes money through that empire and through that illegal activity exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you said, that's one of the charges, but

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<v Speaker 1>one of many charges. Authorities alleged that did he use

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<v Speaker 1>the pretense of a romantic relationship to intimidate, threaten, and

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<v Speaker 1>law female victims into his orbit. They alleged he would

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<v Speaker 1>eventually force victims to engage in extended and elaborate sex

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<v Speaker 1>acts with male commercial sex workers. And that really goes

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<v Speaker 1>to the heart of you know, what is being alleged here,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that did he would host I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to use the word events, but that's really what is

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<v Speaker 1>you here. He would call them freak offs, and according

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<v Speaker 1>to the indictment, they were these highly orchestrated performances of

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<v Speaker 1>sexual activity that took place in hotels and other places,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were fueled by drugs and could go on

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<v Speaker 1>for days. And those freak offs are really at the

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<v Speaker 1>center of these.

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<v Speaker 2>Allegations, and that's what's really captured the media's attention and

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<v Speaker 2>public interest. It's also mentioned in the indictment that many

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<v Speaker 2>of those quote unquote freak offs were filmed, and that

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<v Speaker 2>Diddy would allegedly often film them himself. So he's observing

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<v Speaker 2>women that he's allegedly lew it in under false pretenses

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<v Speaker 2>into these sexual situations, that he films them for whatever purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>That's also a really interesting part of this.

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<v Speaker 1>It is and I think it's important to note that

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't the first time that the public had learned

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<v Speaker 1>of these freak offs. It was actually also included in

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie's original case that we spoke about earlier. In her

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<v Speaker 1>civil lawsuit, she mentioned these free COFs. She alleged that

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<v Speaker 1>during these incidents the free COFs, she was forced to

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<v Speaker 1>have sex with male sex workers, while, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>did he watched, masturbated and took photos and videos. She

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<v Speaker 1>claimed that drugs were supplied at these events and that

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<v Speaker 1>she took them so that she could quote disassociate during

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<v Speaker 1>these horrific encounters. And so in this latest indictment we

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<v Speaker 1>have once again heard of these same events that were

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<v Speaker 1>echoed by Ditty's ex Cassie.

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<v Speaker 2>And also the indictment mentions or allegers that these freak

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<v Speaker 2>COFs date back several decades. It's alleged that there is

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<v Speaker 2>decades of abuse at the hands of Didy or organized

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<v Speaker 2>by Diddy.

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<v Speaker 1>And according to the prosecutors, this is really where the

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<v Speaker 1>racketeering allegation comes in. Because Williams, who I said, led

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<v Speaker 1>that press conference earlier this month, said, did he used

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<v Speaker 1>his business and employees of that business and other close

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<v Speaker 1>associates to get his way. They booked the hotel rooms

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<v Speaker 1>and stocked them with supplies, and when those hotel rooms

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<v Speaker 1>got damaged, they helped to clean it up. There they're

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<v Speaker 1>referring to those freak off events, but also to the

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<v Speaker 1>alleged role that his business associates played in those events.

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<v Speaker 2>So several really serious allegations in this federal indictment from

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<v Speaker 2>these recent charges, some that have been alluded to before

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<v Speaker 2>in other legal proceedings. Did he denied the allegations made

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<v Speaker 2>by Cassie Ventura. How has he responded to these new charges.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look, in much the same way. He's denied these

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<v Speaker 1>allegations too. I mentioned earlier he was arrested, and after

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<v Speaker 1>he was arrested, he pleaded not guilty to the chargers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's then, you know, exposing the difference between this latest

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<v Speaker 1>indictment and what Cassie's suit was, which was a civil

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<v Speaker 1>suit not a criminal suit. So he was arrested in

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<v Speaker 1>this instance. His lawyer has said that did he is innocent,

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<v Speaker 1>that he will fight this until the end. His legal

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<v Speaker 1>team had a really interesting line in their statement. They

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<v Speaker 1>said he is an imperfect person, but he's not a criminal, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But they have said that he's looking forward to clearing

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<v Speaker 1>his name. Did He is currently in jail. He was

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<v Speaker 1>denied bail because they believed he was too much of

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<v Speaker 1>a flight risk and that it could happen that he

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<v Speaker 1>could intimidate witnesses. So he is currently sitting in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>And just an interesting, I think thing to notice that

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<v Speaker 1>People magazine actually reported that he's in the same jail

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<v Speaker 1>space as Sam Bankman Freed, who we've spoken about on

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<v Speaker 1>this pod before, who was the FTX founder who was

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<v Speaker 1>convicted of fraud crimes, the crypto King. Yeah, exactly. He's

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<v Speaker 1>currently serving a very long sentence for the crimes that

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<v Speaker 1>he was convicted of. But did he certainly hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>convicted of anything yet. It's this pre trial. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>denied bail and he will await, you know, that next

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<v Speaker 1>court date to see what happens next.

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<v Speaker 2>The bail angle of this story is really interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty unusual for someone so high profile, who is

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<v Speaker 2>so wealthy on paper, we know that, to not be

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<v Speaker 2>given an opportunity to post that bail and to go

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<v Speaker 2>and live their life while they await a court appearance.

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<v Speaker 2>His lawyers have alleged that did he come to New

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<v Speaker 2>York from his home in Miami in good faith as

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<v Speaker 2>a measure to present himself to police to be arrested

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<v Speaker 2>to hear these charges. Now, if that had happened, did

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<v Speaker 2>his lawyers say that it would have been nearly impossible

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<v Speaker 2>for a judge to deny him bail. But before did

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<v Speaker 2>he had a chance to hand himself in again, reportedly

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<v Speaker 2>he was arrested. He was intercepted by authorities unexpectedly or

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise arrest. Now that apparently makes it easier for

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<v Speaker 2>a judge to deny him bail. So his lawyers are

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<v Speaker 2>sort of suggesting some kind of conspiracy against their client,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And his lawyers were pushing for that bail to be

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<v Speaker 1>at around the fifty million dollar mine, but prosecutors pushed back,

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<v Speaker 1>and it turns out that he has been denied bail

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<v Speaker 1>and is currently in jail now.

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<v Speaker 2>In that press conference where we heard from Williams, who's

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<v Speaker 2>with the US Attorney, he said specifically about the influence

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<v Speaker 2>and the power of someone like Diddy that prosecutors wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to very publicly show the community that it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>what kind of the rule of law exactly rounds above

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<v Speaker 2>the law, no matter how wealthy or powerful you may be. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so some extremely serious charges. If Ditty is found guilty,

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<v Speaker 2>what sort of sentence is he looking at?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I think because there are so many charges,

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<v Speaker 1>it can vary quite dramatically, but it's been reported that

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<v Speaker 1>what he's looking at if he is convicted is anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>from fifteen years to life in prison. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for someone as we started this podcast to go full circle,

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<v Speaker 1>as someone who was at the top of an industry,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, across the globe to be possibly facing life

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<v Speaker 1>in prison. I mean, it's just it's a remarkable story.

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<v Speaker 2>What a lot of people are waiting to see next

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<v Speaker 2>in this case is if there will be other celebrity

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<v Speaker 2>names that fall with Ditty. So there are these rumors

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<v Speaker 2>of these really lavish parties that Diddy was famous for hosting,

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<v Speaker 2>these white parties where everyone all dressed in white. You

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<v Speaker 2>might have seen some photos doing the rounds from the

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<v Speaker 2>nineties and the early noughties. You know, people like j Lo,

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<v Speaker 2>jay Z, Beyonce, Kim Kardashian, other really high profile names

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<v Speaker 2>who have been closely associated with Diddy for decades and

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<v Speaker 2>who are yet to say anything. So, you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>does that silence say in and of itself? Usha really interestingly,

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<v Speaker 2>a close friend of Ditty, has wiped all of his

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<v Speaker 2>ex history, so all of his previous Twitter posts have disappeared.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that move from Russia might have meant absolutely nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>It might be about something completely different, But there are

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<v Speaker 2>certainly corners of the Internet really waiting with bated breath

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<v Speaker 2>to see what comes next.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also worth mentioning Zara that separately, another lawsuit against

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<v Speaker 2>Ditty was launched this week by a woman who claims

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<v Speaker 2>she was raped by the rapper and producer and one

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<v Speaker 2>of his security guards in the early two thousands. Her

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<v Speaker 2>name is Tarlia Graves. She's suing Ditty for sexual assault

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<v Speaker 2>and alleges that incident happened at the rappers music studios.

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<v Speaker 2>As with Cassandra Ventura, this is a civil suit. Her

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<v Speaker 2>lawyers said that holding those to account who had caused

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<v Speaker 2>Graves to suffer was long overdue. She is the eleventh

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<v Speaker 2>person to sue Ditty for sexual abuse, and prosecutors have

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<v Speaker 2>really reiterated calls in line with kind of the scale

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<v Speaker 2>of these allegations. They've urged victims of Ditty's alleged abuse

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<v Speaker 2>or anyone who knows anything about his alleged crimes to

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<v Speaker 2>come forward and said quote, this investigation is far from over.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to this episode of tda's summer series.

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