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Speaker 1: Now, community leaders in what Air have got plans in

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Speaker 1: the works to establish a licensed social club, which they

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Speaker 1: say is going to stop road deaths as well as

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Speaker 1: the black market alcohol sales. Now it's understood that they're

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Speaker 1: developing a proposal for the Northern Territory Liquor Commission to

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Speaker 1: allow moderated drinking at the club. Joining me on the

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Speaker 1: line to explain this a little bit further is Murambart

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Speaker 1: Tribal Development chairman and traditional owner Margaret Purjet. Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you, Margaret, Thanks so much for your time this morning. Margaret,

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Speaker 1: tell us what are the plans and what would the

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Speaker 1: social club look like? How would it operate.

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Speaker 2: Like in the past? So we at a club that years.

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Speaker 1: Ago, and so you had one previously, And Margaret, would

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Speaker 1: it mean that you know, you're allowed to drink from

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Speaker 1: certain hours and only certain time types of alcohol.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, doing these often? Defense, How so was in

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Speaker 2: the past, Yeah, and it's run really well?

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Speaker 1: How long ago? Margaret? Was it that that that former

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Speaker 1: social club was operating a few years? But a few

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Speaker 1: years ago?

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Speaker 2: Was it? Yeah, like a few years.

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Speaker 1: And Margaret, why is it something that the traditional owners

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Speaker 1: in the community want, You mean.

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Speaker 2: Like setting a total club in their community. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How come you guys, how come you'd like to see

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Speaker 1: it happen again?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd like that social cup have a social club

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Speaker 2: were in their community.

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Speaker 1: And like.

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Speaker 2: People going into town spending a lot of money and

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Speaker 2: people living in Long World spend you know, and that's

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Speaker 2: good for us for our family m m. Spending a

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Speaker 2: lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark, Margaret from you know, is that a real

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Speaker 1: concern at the moment, Like a people coming into town,

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Speaker 1: they're spending heaps of money on alcohol and then even

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Speaker 1: trying to bring some of that back into the community. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of money is going out out

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Speaker 2: of air toown and it is it well create a

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Speaker 2: black market where people bringing go back manly food? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Is it done by every little people and love?

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Speaker 1: Ye?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Margaret, what.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like what kind of issues does that then

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Speaker 1: mean for for locals when that is happening.

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Speaker 2: In their community?

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Speaker 1: So so yeah, so Margaret, in some cases, do you

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Speaker 1: know how much people are spending or how much it's

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Speaker 1: costing for them to buy grog on the black market?

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Speaker 2: Spending a lot of money? You know, like I wonder, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it's really hard to spend a lot of money

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Speaker 2: on black market before because spar and in their community.

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Speaker 2: It's really hard, you know, they spending a lot of

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Speaker 2: money and sa like mother, grandmother is truly hard to

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Speaker 2: afford the money to buy food to their own kids.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, stop, I can be subject, you know, like

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Speaker 2: people coming into the community bringing grog in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Margaret, how tough has it been for you guys

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Speaker 1: in recent you know, in recent times when you look

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Speaker 1: at that slide grog being brought in, and when you

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Speaker 1: look at how much people have been spending on getting

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Speaker 1: grog on the black market, how hard has that been

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Speaker 1: on the community, particularly for moms and for grandma's you know,

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Speaker 1: wanting to be able to look after the young ones.

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Speaker 2: It's really hard for them. Yeah, a lot of cloth

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Speaker 2: into the into their community, you know, like I say,

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Speaker 2: for it's called you know, they can't live any of

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Speaker 2: it because of this black market going around in the community.

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Speaker 1: Margaret, do you reckon if there's a social club and

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Speaker 1: people are allowed to drink a certain amount of alcohol

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Speaker 1: and certain types of alcohol rather than getting their grog,

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Speaker 1: you know, from the black market, do you reckon that's

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Speaker 1: going to be a safer way for things to happen?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you can put a social club in the community.

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Speaker 2: They can bring motivation, drink in a safe area, you know,

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Speaker 2: and a club with a strong medicement. And we can

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Speaker 2: put us strict rules as well.

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Speaker 1: What do you reckon some of those rules would have

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Speaker 1: to be or have you had much of a think

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Speaker 1: about those rules at the moment?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can putting me you know, not like underage

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Speaker 2: to go into the club. We need a like a

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Speaker 2: proper id go into the club.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Margaret, where are things at with this plan to

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Speaker 1: try and open the social club?

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Speaker 2: Make sure yet? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I really appreciate you having a chat to

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Speaker 1: us this morning and and you know, outlining to us

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Speaker 1: why you and and others do want to allow or

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Speaker 1: do want to see a social club out there. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it and h and we'll keep in contact

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Speaker 1: with you to find out how things are are tracking along.

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Speaker 2: We're going to put a social club here so we

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Speaker 2: can get people together in any community, one family.

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Speaker 1: Margaret, do you have any worries that you know that

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Speaker 1: you would that you'd see, you know, violence or anything

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Speaker 1: if if the social club does get up and running,

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Speaker 1: or do you think that it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: safer way to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you are a sort of social club. Yeah, yeah, Margaret,

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Speaker 2: I don't want the people living on the street sun

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Speaker 2: and drinking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's been like, that's been pretty bad, hasn't

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Speaker 1: it throughout the last few months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been pretty bad. Yeah, and we need them

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Speaker 2: to come back here with the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Does it like, do you feel pretty sad when

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Speaker 1: you sort of see some people coming to town and

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Speaker 1: behaving really badly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, well, you know, people are in the

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Speaker 2: town sleeping on along blows, sending out of money, you know,

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Speaker 2: and that's not really before people in our family have

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Speaker 2: come meal. It's really said, you know what's doing him down? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we had to put a look club. It's going to

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Speaker 2: be really good and people can enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Margaret. Thank you so much for having a chat with

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Speaker 1: me this morning, and hopefully I'll catch up with you

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Speaker 1: again soon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: I really really appreciate it. Good on your Margaret. Okay,

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Speaker 1: by now,