1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Already and this is the daily This is the daily. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Ohs oh, now it makes sense. 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Thursday, 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: the eighth of August. 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm zara, I'm Nanbini. Now you might have seen headlines 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: about Bangladesh, from violent protests to their prime minister fleeing 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: the country. What started as student led protests against a 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: job's quota has now led to political unrest. In recent days, 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Bangladesh's president has assigned a Nobel Peace Prize winner to 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: lead an interim government. What does this mean for the 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: country and how did it get to this point. That's 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: what we'll try to answer in today's deep dive. But first, Sarah, 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: what's making headlines. 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: Childcare workers will get a fifteen percent pay increase over 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: the next two years under a federal government plan. Award 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: wages will increase for preschool teachers and after school care 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: work centers across the country. Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi said 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: he hopes the pay increase will boost productivity and will 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: provide quote real help with the cost of living, fair 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: wages for workers and economic equality for women. 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: A teacher in the south western Sydney suburb of Learnier 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: has been arrested and charged with sexual offenses. New South 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: Wales detectives responded to reports that a female teacher had 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: allegedly sexually touched a seventeen year old boy. A spokesperson 25 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: for the state's education department told media a teacher had 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: been stood down without pay. 27 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: Protests in the UK have spread across multiple new cities, 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: with UK PM kir Starmer calling out quote far right thuggery. 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: The protests were sparked by the stabbing of three young 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: girls in the northwestern English town of Southport. Far right 31 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: protesters have since gathered in several cities across the UK, 32 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: including in London, where they've clashed with police. Counter protests 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: have also fled up in recent days. Australians have been 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: reminded to exercise a high degree of caution when visiting 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: the UK, and. 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: For today's good news, a crowd has broken a record 37 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: for the biggest women's basketball attendance ever recorded in Europe. 38 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: During Australia's face off against France in the city of Lele. 39 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: The Ossie Opals beat France seventy nine to seventy two, 40 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: and a group phase game of the Olympics that was 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: attended by more than twenty seven one hundred people. The 42 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: stadium in Lele has hosted record breaking crowds for the 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: women's basketball over the past two weeks, topping twenty six 44 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: and a half thousand people for at least five games. 45 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 2: So, Nandini, I feel like this is a story where 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: I've seen lots of headlines, I've seen lots of vision, 47 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: but I do feel like if you haven't been here 48 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: for the whole time of reading into what is happening 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: into Bangladesh, it's a bit difficult to understand where we've 50 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: gotten too. Can you take us back and just explain 51 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: a bit of those headlines? Where does the story begin? 52 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: For sure? So Thunglandh has been making global headlines lately, 53 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: and we started to hear about these student led protests 54 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: last month, but in the past week tensions have really 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: ramped up with a complete uprooting of their government. 56 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: You mentioned that it all started with these student led protests. 57 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: What are they protesting? Why they're students in the streets. 58 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: What's it all about? 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: So these university students band together against a job's quota 60 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: that was enforced by the government. Essentially, this quota reserved 61 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: thirty percent of all public service jobs for the families 62 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 1: of veterans who served in the country's war of independence. 63 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: So a quick history lesson. Bangladesh formerly known as East Pakistan, 64 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: split from West Pakistan in nineteen seventy one and that's 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: when they created the country we now know as Bangladesh. 66 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: And so you're saying that the relatives of the veterans 67 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: of that war that you just mention, they are now 68 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: being given thirty percent of public sector roles in Bangladesh. 69 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: Is that right exactly? 70 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: And so students protested against this quota, arguing that jobs 71 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: should be given based on skill and merit instead of 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: family lineage. These protests ramped up, with more people getting 73 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: involved in demonstrations against the government and the police and 74 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: the military. Late last month, the government then reduced this 75 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: job's quota to five percent, but violent protests were still continuing. 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: And you've intimated it there, but we haven't explicitly spoken 77 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: about it. They have become violent, these protests and the 78 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: clashes between government police these protesters. What have they looked like? 79 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 2: What have these protests involved. 80 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: There's a lot of footage out there about these protests. 81 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: There's cars being burned buildings and statues being vandalized, and 82 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: a significant number of deaths. Reporting on the death toll, however, 83 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 1: really varies. Some outlets would say nearly one hundred deaths, 84 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: whereas other reports say around five hundred deaths last week. 85 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 1: The government tried to control these protests by introducing things 86 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: like internet and phone outages, city white shutdowns and cafews. 87 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: And so despite the restrictions that you just mentioned, the 88 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: protesters didn't stop. It continued until a point, right. 89 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: Yes, And if anything, students grew stronger in support from 90 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: the public, and they were calling for the Prime Minister, 91 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: Shek Hassina to step down, which she did. 92 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: And now this takes us to the next big part 93 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: of the story, which is about the Prime minister. And 94 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: I think now's a good point just to mention that 95 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: in Bangladesh there is both a president and a Prime minister. 96 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: But for the sake of this story, we're just talking 97 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: about the PM. So can you just explain who is 98 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: she and why did she step down? 99 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: So, Hassina was Bangladesh's longest serving leader and there were 100 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: strong calls from protesters for her resignation. Some important context 101 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: here is that her father, Sek Mujibur Rahman was the 102 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: first president of Bangladesh and he's also known as the 103 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: father of the nation. His party, it's called the Awami League, 104 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 1: was the ruling party of Bangladesh pretty much until this week. 105 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, the Human Rights Watch accused the Awami 106 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: League of silencing opposition and outlined allegations of fraud. At 107 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: the time, Brad Adams, the Asia director at the Human 108 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: Rights Watch, said there was quote international concern about the 109 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: Awami League's increasing bent towards authoritarianism. 110 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I want to take this opportunity to just recap 111 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: where we're at. So this story starts with protests and 112 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: student protesters are angry about a government policy that would 113 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: see certain jobs allocated to the families of veterans who 114 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: served in a war. Those student protests have continued, they've grown, 115 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: and it has led to the resignation of the country's 116 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: prime minister, a female prime minister who was from a 117 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: party called the Awami League. That party had attracted some 118 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: criticism from the Human Rights Watch, And so now we're 119 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: in a situation where the prime minister has left the 120 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: country has resigned. What happens from there, so. 121 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: Hasina's resignation was announced by the Army chief. And in 122 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: this time where the prime minister is now gone has 123 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: stepped down, the military took control and they were in 124 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: control until an interim go could be formed. So an 125 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: interim government is a temporary body that aims to set 126 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: up a permanent government in a time of an emergency, 127 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: like in Bangladesh right now. 128 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so who's leading this interim government if the 129 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: PM's gone? 130 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: So the Bangladeshi President. Now Bangladesh has a prime minister 131 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: and president. Their president has appointed Muhammad Yunis as the 132 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: leader of the interim government. So I'll give you a 133 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: bit of context on who Unis is. He was awarded 134 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: a Nobel Peace Prize in two thousand and six for 135 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: founding a bank that supports Bangladesh's poorer population by approving 136 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: smaller loans that wouldn't otherwise be approved by larger banks. 137 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: In other words, he developed this concept that we now 138 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: call microlending or microfinancing. Then in two thousand and seven 139 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: he proposed a new political party called Nagarik Shakhti, which 140 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: basically translates to Citizens' Power. But this party didn't hold 141 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: up because there was a lack of candidates. 142 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so you've just mentioned there that he proposed a 143 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: new political party. It didn't take off, but he's presumably 144 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: not from the Awami League if he was setting up 145 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: his own party, right, So how does that work? 146 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: So here's it gets really interesting because assigning Unis as 147 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: the leader of the interim government wasn't actually the president's choice. 148 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: This was because of pressure and demands from student protesters 149 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: who said they wanted Unis to lead the interim government. 150 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: So traditionally the president would have appointed whoever the interim 151 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: leader was, but in this case, it was because of 152 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: the student protesters that someone else was installed. 153 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Yes, there's so much pressure from these demonstrations. And it's 154 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: really interesting because he's actually been a longtime critic and 155 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: opponent of the now former Prime Minister Hassina. Unis was 156 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: charged with a range of things last year, including money 157 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: laundering and corruption. Human rights groups have claimed that these 158 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: charges were politically motivated under Hassina's power. Amnesty International card 159 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: for an end to this quote harassment and intimidation. 160 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: Wow, So there's this real like shifting of power in Bangladesh. 161 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: And I mean, I know that this isn't the biggest 162 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: part of the story. But something worth noting is how 163 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: much much of this change has come from young people 164 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: in the country, like they have quite literally installed a 165 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: new leader. It's quite remarkable to see from Afar. 166 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, and look, most of these developments have played 167 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: out literally in the last few days. So it's a 168 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: story that's changing really fast day by day, and it's 169 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: one that we definitely want to keep an eye on 170 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: and find out what the future of Bangladesh's government looks like. 171 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Nandini, something I have learnt a 172 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: lot about and I know that our listeners will too. 173 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us today on the 174 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: Daily os. If you are listening on Spotify or Apple, 175 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: or you're watching us on YouTube, hit follow or subscribe. 176 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: That way, the platforms know that you like what we're 177 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: doing and we'll serve you more of it. 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