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Speaker 1: This is jem nation. We well, we got to know

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Speaker 1: our next guest, disability advocate Hannah da Vinni last year

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Speaker 1: when she petitioned for Disney to create a princess with

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Speaker 1: a disability. Hannah hasn't stopped there. Recently, she addressed two

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Speaker 1: high profile musicians, Lizzo and Beyonce, about using an ablest

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Speaker 1: slur in their lyrics. They listened, they apologized, and they

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Speaker 1: made changes. Extraordinary. Hannah is changing the world a huge inspiration.

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Speaker 1: She features in this month's Australian Women's Weekly, and she

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Speaker 1: joins us now, Hello Hannah.

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Speaker 2: Hi guys, thanks for having read.

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Speaker 1: An incredible thing. Can I read out the tweet that

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Speaker 1: you put out there for Lizzo? You said, Hey, Lizzo,

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Speaker 1: my disability cerebral palsy is literally classified as spastic displasia,

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Speaker 1: where spacicity refers to unending, painful tightness in my legs.

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Speaker 1: Your new song makes me pretty angry and sad. Spaz

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean freaked out or crazy. It's an ablest. It's

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Do better. This is extraordinary, and tell us

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Speaker 1: how Liza responded?

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Speaker 2: Well. Lizo responded in the most unbelievable gracious way, I

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Speaker 2: never expected her to see it, let alone release a

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Speaker 2: statement apologizing and saying like, thank you for teaching me

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Speaker 2: that this word is not okay to use, and there's

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Speaker 2: going to be a new version of the song out

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Speaker 2: that has this word.

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Speaker 1: Removed amazing, which is incredible. And then the same happened

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Speaker 1: again with Beyonce. Beyonce had a song with that same word,

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Speaker 1: and she's also responded the same way she.

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Speaker 2: Has she has. I couldn't believe it, especially because Beyonce

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Speaker 2: cultivates something of a like unapproachable or untouchable image. She's

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Speaker 2: very selective about how she interacts with the public, So

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Speaker 2: to have her respond that way was quite mind blowing.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, Well, you didn't expect that. You're just

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Speaker 3: putting your case forward, and yeah, it's quite amazing that

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Speaker 3: you got these two ladies to respond in such a way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really incredible because honestly, like I've tweeted thousands

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Speaker 2: of times and I've never had tweets do that like it.

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Speaker 2: It's been pretty overwhelming.

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Speaker 1: But it's unusual. I would have thought for that word

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Speaker 1: still to be used in popular culture. Do you come

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Speaker 1: across it often.

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Speaker 2: Recently? Yes? Ah, but I think there seems to be

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Speaker 2: some sort of cultural disconnect like here in Australia and

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Speaker 2: the UK. Obviously we haven't used that word in a

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Speaker 2: long time, and rightfully so. That word was often used

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Speaker 2: against me, sometimes in the playground by kids who didn't

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Speaker 2: really know what they were using it for, but they

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Speaker 2: knew enough to use it to hurt me, I guess.

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Speaker 2: But in the US, I'm finding that there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of people who aren't aware that it's a slow or

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Speaker 2: that there's some crossover or like miscommunication between me and

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Speaker 2: African American vernacula English, which obviously I can't comment on

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Speaker 2: as a white woman. But I'm just grateful that Beyonce

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Speaker 2: and Lizzo heard our request for change and did so

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Speaker 2: without making a fuss. That's great.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard anything from Disney.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I've heard from Disney is their wonderful

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Speaker 2: statement that they gave to the Australian Women's Weekly, basically

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Speaker 2: saying that they that they've heard my request, they were

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Speaker 2: supportive of my passion for change, and they understood that

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Speaker 2: moving forward, they'd like to be a company that embraces

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Speaker 2: more diversity. So I don't know if that means that

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Speaker 2: there's going to be a disabled Disney princess in cinemas soon,

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Speaker 2: but I hope so. It definitely feels like a step

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Speaker 2: in the right direction for me. I would love to

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Speaker 2: be involved in the creative process. I think that would

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Speaker 2: be loads of fun. But I'm happy to just go

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Speaker 2: to the cinema one day in the future and be surprised.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you're making a difference, Hannah, that's the great thing,

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Speaker 3: you know. You see something wrong, you tweet out there

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Speaker 3: and you've made a difference. This is a it's a

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Speaker 3: big deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's definitely gotten me to places I never thought

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Speaker 2: I would never thought I would go. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know how this is going to make you feel, but

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Speaker 2: I have spent my entire childhood basically listening to you

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Speaker 2: too on the radio.

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Speaker 3: Jeez, I'm sorry for that. What do we owe you

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Speaker 3: for that? Is there some sort of therapy? Is there

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Speaker 3: something we have to pay you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Compensation, compensation, It's all good.

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Speaker 3: It's all good, Hannah. I just think keep doing what

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Speaker 3: you're doing. It's absolutely fantastic and it just shows that

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Speaker 3: one person can make a difference. The austral Women's Weekly

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Speaker 3: is on sale now. Hannah Davinny, thank you for joining us,

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me