1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by Victoria Police. Are 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: you made for more search police careers? To find out? 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: After watching that insane penalty shootout at the FIFA Women's 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: World Cup, I'm so curious to hear from anyone who 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: has been a soccer goalkeeper at a high level, and 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: Beth Mason Jones is exactly that. Beth signed for Melbourne 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Victory at nineteen, claiming an A League premiership in her 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: three year stint before moving across to Canberrat United. Beth 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: joined the Victoria Police in twenty nineteen as a Protected 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Services officer. This chat involves some incredible lessons Beth has 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: learned about looking after yourself and your mental health and 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: finding the confidence to take a leap at some new opportunities. 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: There's some awesome stories in here. I hope you enjoy it. Beth, 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Female Athlete Project. Thanks for having me 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: to start us off. Can you tell us a little 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: bit about what you were like as a kid. 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: I was definitely actually a bit of a trouble maker. 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: I didn't really like following the rules or I guess 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: I like to just do my own thing and didn't 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: kind of stick with the status quo. So it's pretty 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: interesting now that I work in law enforcement, considering that's 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: that's kind of how I was as a child growing up. 23 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: It's quite a funny theme. We spoke to rach in 24 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: an earlier episode and she kind of described herself when 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: she was younger as a basketballer as a bit of 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: a rebel. Is there a theme do you find with 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: your fellow cops that that's sometimes where they then change? 28 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have a lot of friends that 29 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 2: I had growing up that are in the job, so 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: I can't really vouch for how they were growing up. 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess you get you get similar kind. 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: Of personalities and similar kind of sense of humor and 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: all that. 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: So I can definitely see a trend like that in 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: the police. 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: Where was it that you first found your love for soccer? 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: I played a lot of sports when I was growing up, basketball, netball, volleyball, cricket. 38 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: That's kind of all I wanted to do. 39 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: But I would say when I tried out for the 40 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: school team and I was the only girl that got in, 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: so I was kind of, you know, very proud of that. 42 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: And then that night I went down to the local 43 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: soccer club Croydon City Arrows and joined a team then 44 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: and there, and I think that, you know, I got 45 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: to that age around fourteen fifteen where I had to 46 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: choose one and that was the sport. I was like, yeah, 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: this is thought I want to do. So I must 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: have loved it to choose it. 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Was there someone in your life or someone that you'd seen, 50 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: like on TV, or something that you felt like was 51 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: part of the reason that you chose that. My family 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,279 Speaker 1: is very soccer orientated. 53 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: My nana was from Liverpool, my from England and they're 54 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: crazy Liverpool fans. And my brother obviously played when I 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: was younger too, so we'd go watch him play. And 56 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: then I think that's probably why I tried out for 57 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: the soccer team, because I guess because he played, so 58 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: I would. I would probably say there was definitely an 59 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: influence there as to why I started. 60 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Because I mean, you are a Liverpool fan, of course. 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: Do you often get up do you do middle of 62 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: the night to watch the games? How committed are you? 63 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: I love my sleep too much to do that to myself, especially, 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: I mean I work shift work too, so if there 65 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: is the potential to have a little squizz at the 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: game or have a squizze that they highlights. 67 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: I will do my best, but yeah, I do love 68 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: my sleep, so I feel, yeah, I am. I'm all 69 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: about watching the replay in the morning if I If 70 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: I have the choice, yeah, op to sports where it's at. 71 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: It's how did you first start to work out that 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: you could potentially play at the top level in soccer? 73 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: I think I definitely got a bit disheartened around when 74 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: I was like seventeen eighteen and I'd been in state 75 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: teams but only as emergencies growing up. And I think 76 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: I think because I got knocked back so much at 77 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: that youth level, it kind of made me want to 78 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: work harder and prove people wrong. That's something about me. 79 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 2: If I set my mind to something and I'm going 80 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: to do something and people tell me now I'm going 81 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: to I'm still going to find a way to do it. 82 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: It's quite an interesting balance because I think, like I 83 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: played basketball as a kid before I transition to different sports, 84 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: and I was kind of that always that like fringe 85 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: player at that at that higher level. And it's quite 86 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: an interesting balance, right, particularly for young people around whether 87 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: they keep persevering and keep pushing through to get to 88 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: that so it's interesting that you can kind of like 89 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: look at it as something of you almost being stubborn 90 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: and wanting to prove people wrong. What do you think 91 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: it is like that drives you to do that. 92 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: I think, like, at the end of the day, I 93 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: just don't like other people. 94 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: Defining me. 95 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, if someone tells me I 96 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: can't do something, and I don't like to think that, oh, 97 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: you know, they've said that, so that's what other people. 98 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: But I think, so I want to show myself that, Okay, 99 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: well if that's what they think, I'm going to prove 100 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: them wrong and I'm going to show them what I 101 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: can actually do. And you know, what other people say 102 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: isn't isn't actually what is true at the end of 103 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: the day. 104 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: How did you first get involved with Melbourne Victory, a 105 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: team that's had a fair bit of success over the years. 106 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: I actually had come off a season with Caldy United 107 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: in the NPL and I think we we'd won everything. 108 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: We'd won, like the team app Nike Cup, we'd won 109 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: the Premiership, the championship, and I hadn't gotten a trial 110 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: at an A league club and I was, you know, 111 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: I was like, what am I doing wrong, Like you know, 112 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: I've conceded the least goals. 113 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: I've been training hard. I've been working hard. 114 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: And I ended up just emailing the coach myself. I said, Hi, listen, 115 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: I am a young keeper. I am just looking to 116 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: be involved in the environment. I want to train hard, 117 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 2: I want. 118 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: To be exposed. 119 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: And they replied and they invited me down to a 120 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: couple of trials and they were actually going to sign 121 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: they'd signed a goalkeeper, a first choice, and then they 122 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: had they had already planned on signing a second choice 123 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: and that second choice ended up breaking her leg. So 124 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: they were like, look, I've been really impressed with you 125 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: know what you've shown at trials, and we want to 126 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: offer your contract. 127 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: That's a very cool story. 128 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I ended up signing the Melbourne victory 129 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: and we had an international goalkeeper there at the time, 130 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: and I think it was maybe three or four games 131 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: in she did her meniscus in the Melbourne derby against 132 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: Melbourne City and I ended up playing, which is something 133 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: I didn't even expect at that time. 134 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: What was it like to kind of go from having 135 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: the courage to send the email, having to prove yourself 136 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: and then getting your chance to play and feel like 137 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: you deserve to be out there. I think it was all. 138 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: I think I was just too like I was honestly 139 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: just very excited about getting to train to begin with, 140 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: and then getting a contract and then getting to play. 141 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: I think it was just all. 142 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: I guess I was just too excited about the thing 143 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: that happened before to even worry about, you know, getting 144 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: the contract or getting to play. It just all happens 145 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: really fast, and it was just all very enjoyable, honestly, 146 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: and a bit surreal. 147 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: I guess, Yeah, that's really cool. And you guys, as 148 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: Melbourne victory, you're part of a premiership winning team. What's 149 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 1: it like to win at that top level? 150 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good feeling, honestly. 151 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean to win. 152 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: A premiership with them was really really amazing. 153 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's a top level. 154 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: In Australia, and I mean to go from playing, you know, 155 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: grassroots football to getting to play and win a championship 156 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: in your country, it's it's I don't know, you can't 157 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: really you don't really think about how big it is 158 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: and how big the jump is. And I guess once 159 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: you slowly keep working upwards and you don't really realize 160 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 2: how far you've come in the end. 161 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: How did it go from the success and the high 162 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: to a point where you may have fallen out of 163 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: love with the game a little bit, I. 164 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: Think, I I don't know. I think a lot of things, 165 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: just things. 166 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: Just happened in my life personally, a lot of people 167 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: around me that weren't very supportive of what I was 168 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: doing and were really negatively impacting my mental health, which 169 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: I think changed who I was as a person for 170 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: quite a while. 171 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: And I think when you you know, when you. 172 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: Are going through a mental battle, you a lot of 173 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: people from the outside don't really know what's going on, 174 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: and it changes. It changes the way you come off 175 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: and how you're perceived and stuff like that. And I think, 176 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: you know, my vision on the game had changed a lot, 177 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: just because of the influencers around me. Obviously COVID also 178 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: wasn't very you know, helpful towards anyone, and you know, 179 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: not being able to play I think really really impacted people. 180 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: And I guess it really impacted me too. But I 181 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: think I got to the point where I needed a 182 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: little bit of a break and to change things up 183 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: a little bit. After I was at Cambria United and 184 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: decided to go take a step back and continue to play, 185 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: but at a bit of a lower level, a little 186 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: bit less commitment, so I can focus on myself. I 187 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: can focus on you know, I can give what that 188 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: team needs without giving too much and taking away from myself. 189 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: So I decided to go to Essendon Royals after Canberra 190 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: and just played State one. I had a friend that 191 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: was there and she gave my name to the coach 192 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: and was like the coach was like, yeah, or want 193 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: to have this keeper with us? Like my friend was like, yeah, 194 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 2: she's a great gal, She'll be really good for the team, 195 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: and yeah. I just signed on to Essendon Royals for 196 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one season and we played State one and 197 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 2: then got promoted to VPL. And that's where twenty What 198 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: year are we twenty. 199 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: It's tough to say, twenty two, four, twenty twenty four, 200 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: So no, twenty twenty two is when I went to 201 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: Essendon and played State one and then we got promoted, 202 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 4: and then last year twenty twenty three we played VPL one. 203 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: Won the league again. 204 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: So next year this year, gosh, twenty twenty four were 205 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: headed into the NPL and we like I'm excited. I'm 206 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: I think I'm going back a few years to play 207 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: at a lower level and just try and like find 208 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: my love for the game. Find you know, try and 209 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if it sounds cheesy, but find myself, 210 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: like maybe not the old me, but it knew me 211 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: a better me. And so yeah, now I'm ready, you know, 212 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: I'm just ready to get back into NPL and work 213 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: towards playing it that higher level again. 214 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's really cool, and thank you for your 215 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: vulnerability and sharing that, because I think that mental health 216 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: side of things is obviously something that impacts people in 217 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: their daily life, but it's just really interesting, friend elyite athlete, 218 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: the way that it can impact just sport, Like I 219 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: think I know for me, like when I've had my 220 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: battles with anxiety and mental health, it's such it's so 221 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: all consuming a lot of the time, and sport can 222 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: either be something where it's an escape or it can 223 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: be something that it doesn't necessarily help it. So it's 224 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: a really cool thing that you've kind of worked out 225 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: for you you just needed to take a step back 226 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: and find that love and find yourself again, because it's 227 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: a hard thing to work out right, you don't always 228 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: know what the next best step forward is. 229 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've just in such a bad place 230 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: for such a long time, and I think a lot 231 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: of people didn't know that either, And obviously people can't 232 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: don't know, and they don't know how to help. And 233 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: I mean, if you don't know how to help yourself 234 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: being in that space, then it's really hard to expect 235 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: anyone else to know how to help or understand what 236 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: you're going through. But yeah, I it's it's right, like 237 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: sport soccer can be like a great escape and it 238 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: can be really helpful if you have the you know, 239 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: you've got the right coaches, you've got the right teammate, 240 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: you've got the right club behind you. Just support you 241 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: and be like, you know, we've noticed you're going through things, 242 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: and you know we're here to support you and just 243 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: hope that you give give us what you can, and 244 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: you give us, you give us what you go so 245 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: you can and we can give you that back. 246 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: Like so, yeah, it's very interesting. 247 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: If you're at the wrong club or you're in the 248 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: wrong environment, it could just go the complete opper away helpful. 249 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: Do you feel like there's anything along the journey that's 250 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: helped you to now feel comfortable to speak about it, 251 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: or has it just been you kind of over time 252 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: finding finding the confidence to have your voice. 253 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: I think it's been about trying to find the right 254 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: things to say, and I haven't I've always kind of 255 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: been like, you know, when you're in that bad place or. 256 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: Are you you. 257 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: You say too much or you don't say enough. And 258 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: I think it's just trying to find the right words. 259 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: And you know, you don't need to give everything that. 260 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: You don't need to say everything that you've been through 261 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: or give all the details, because that's bastal to you. 262 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: And you can you can say, you can say a 263 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: lot of stuff, and it I like, I'm trying to 264 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: put this right. I I can say things, but I 265 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: don't want so and things. 266 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: To be. 267 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: Judged and that's that's okay, Like I know certain things 268 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: can come out a different way to other people. And Yeah, 269 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: I think it's just about saying the right amount and 270 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: you don't need to share everything. Is just share about 271 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: what you're comfortable with and what you feel like you 272 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: need to say. 273 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and finding the right people as well to share 274 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: with as well, like you feel safe with. Yeah, get 275 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: more from your job with a career at Victoria Police. 276 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: The freedom to go on more holidays with nine weeks 277 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: and you'll leave, more connection with your community where you'll 278 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: make a difference every day, the chance to meet more 279 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: people where workmates become your best mates. Get all this 280 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: and more with a career at Victoria Police. Search Police 281 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: careers today authorized by the Victorian government. Mail and so 282 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: where is your head at now? With your football career 283 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: moving forward? You sound like really excited you've been part 284 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: of these really cool promotions because the team has been 285 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: really successful. I imagine not many goals have been let 286 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: in with your current team with the with the goalie. 287 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: Where's your head at now? Is it trying to return 288 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: to a league? Looking at other options? 289 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? So, just been putting a plan in place the 290 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: last maybe four months or so in terms of you know, 291 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: my training, so getting getting a new strength and conditioning coach, 292 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: working with my old goalkeeper coach from Melbourn Victory, Jeff Olvera, 293 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: and you know, just finding the right people and you know, 294 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: buying into their philosophy and how they want to they 295 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: want to help me, and getting them to understand how 296 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: how they can help me as well, so, yeah, just 297 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: been been training hard, working hard, focusing on my diet, 298 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: and then also just working with work to say, you know, 299 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: to make sure we're on the same page. And I've 300 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: my bosses have been great about, you know, supporting me 301 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: and my goals and my dreams and what I want 302 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: to achieve and. 303 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: Just being open and honest with everyone. And it's been. 304 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: Really great to see the support that I've actually received 305 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: from work. And yeah, so I'm really excited to you know, 306 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: be going back and working hard and seeing what this 307 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: year brings. 308 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: What does it feel like to potentially have the chance 309 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: to get back to that top level when you're in 310 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: a good headspace, Like, what is it that's pushing you 311 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: to get back there? Is it that you know that 312 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: you've still got a lot left to give it that level? 313 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm just, you know, I'm not happy with. 314 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: The way I've left my soccer career. 315 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: I suppose I know I've got so much more to 316 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: give and I've got so much much more potential, and 317 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to let you know my past or 318 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: my you know, what I've been through effect the way 319 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: I exit, And so you know, I'm still young even 320 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: though I don't feel as young as I probably should, 321 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: but yeah, I just you know, I've got a lot 322 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: more to give. I've got I've got a lot to prove, 323 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 2: and I just you know, I'm hoping I get the 324 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: support and I get that opportunity to continue to develop 325 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 2: at that level. 326 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: What does the conversation look like when you're doing shift 327 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: work with the police to potentially go into a Is 328 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: it still pretty part time? The A League progressing towards 329 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: full time for the women on the right track, it's 330 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: definitely improved. 331 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: Obviously, the home World Cup for the Matildas was. 332 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: Immense. 333 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 2: I guess like it was just such a strong show 334 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: of football for Australia and I think obviously most of 335 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: Australia's fallen in love with the Tillies and it's really 336 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: good to see that, you. 337 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: Know, we we put on a show for them. 338 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: We can we can we can play, we can do 339 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: whatever we want if we've we're given the right support, 340 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: we're given the right funding, and I think it's definitely 341 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: headed in the. 342 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: Right direction, and it is. 343 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: It is pretty exciting to see where it continues to go, 344 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: especially after that home World Cup, and I'm yeah, I'm excited. 345 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: I mean, if you look over overseas at the Barclay 346 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: Super League where Sam Kerr and Steph Catley and Hirakuineycross 347 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: like all those players. 348 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: You know, I've played with them, I've played against them. 349 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: It's just it's amazing to see them, you know, finally 350 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: getting what they deserve and. 351 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: It just looks like they're living their best life over there. 352 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: I want to chat a little bit about a bit 353 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: more about the Tillies in that World Cup. Can you 354 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: give us a bit of insight into what the A 355 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: League Women's currently looks like for the players in terms 356 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: of time commitments and trainings and things. 357 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: I imagine it's pretty similar to the last time I 358 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: was there. I know that gradually and slowly the wages 359 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: are increasing. 360 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: The time commitment. 361 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: You know, you've got you've got to train, you've got 362 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: to travel, you've got to have team meetings, You've got 363 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: to do all that stuff. So you know, it is 364 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: a full time job, you know. And that's but I 365 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: still don't see it being treated like a full time 366 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: job because you know, in this climate inflation, you've got 367 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: to be able to afford things, and you want to 368 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: be able to save for the future and you've got 369 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: to you know, you've got to protect yourself, but you 370 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: also want to do what you love, which is why, 371 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's disappointing to see the players. There was 372 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: a player at Wellington Phoenix recently who she just couldn't 373 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: do it anymore. It was it was too it was 374 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: too rough on her financially, and it's it is such 375 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: a shame to see that, especially after the World Cup, 376 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: that you know, players are still in that position that 377 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: they can't just you know, financially support themselves on a 378 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 2: league alone. But I guess at the end of the day, 379 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: that's that's what the PFA is working towards as better 380 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: conditions for us and better pay and let's really just 381 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: hope that you know, in the in the next few years. 382 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 2: It really it really doesn't prove, and it's it's not 383 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: a stress or a financial burden on people to do 384 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: what they love, especially when they're that good at it. 385 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: That's a great point I reckon. You hit the nail 386 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: on the head that idea of even if you paid 387 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: part time, the expectations still completely full time, Like you 388 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: can't just even in your off season, right, you can't 389 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: just completely switch off and decide to stop being an 390 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: athlete because you'll get back and I don't know what 391 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: the fitness testing is like for you guys, but for us, 392 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: we've got our for AFLW got a two k time 393 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: trial or whatever it is that you have to come 394 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: back to. It's so difficult when you've got these part 395 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: time contracts that might not be year round, when there's 396 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: still the expectation that you are a full time, twelve 397 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: month of the year athlete. 398 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if you know the seasons what six months. 399 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: It's been a bit longer this year for the A League, 400 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: which is which is great, But I mean if you're 401 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: only side A, you know, a one season contract, what 402 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: are you doing for the that off season? 403 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: Are you coming back? 404 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 3: Are you are you going to get a contract elsewhere? 405 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: You just don't know. Yeah, there's so many question marks 406 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: and it makes it hard to really plan your life 407 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: outside of that. I have to discuss because I was 408 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: thinking of you talking about being a goalie. My palms 409 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: were so sweaty during that penalty shootout. How are you 410 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: feeling knowing what it would have been like for Mackenzie an' 411 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: or to be in that position. 412 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: I just think Mackenzie would have been like, that's it, 413 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: this is my time, Like, you know, she's been a 414 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: second keeper in the Matildas for such a long time. 415 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: She just she she would have been nervous, but I 416 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: think she just would have been like a better not swear, 417 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: you know, stuff this shit. I mean, oh ah, she 418 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: just would have been like, stuff this this is my moment. 419 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: You know, it's my turn to prove that I'm here 420 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: for a reason, that's why I'm playing. 421 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: And you know she did that, And I think those 422 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: are just kind of. 423 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: The moments, especially goalkeepers live for, because you know it 424 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: is it is all on you most of the time. 425 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: Like you know, you. 426 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: Get an outfield player just taking one penalty kick, but 427 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: you got to be in there for all on the 428 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: other other side of those other penalty kicks from the 429 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: other team. 430 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: So I think that's yeah. 431 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: I think as scary and nervous as a penalty shootout 432 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: can be, I think it's something I would live for. 433 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: What is going through your head in that moment, like 434 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: when your opposition players lining up to take their kick, 435 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: what are you thinking as a keeper to prepare yourself? 436 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: Obviously everyone's got their own different routines and things, But 437 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: what are kind of the main things for those of 438 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: us who have no idea. 439 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, you know, be confident, don't don't second 440 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: guess yourself. You know, if you're gonna go one way, 441 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: go if you're gonna Everyone's got different tactics when it 442 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: comes to a penalty shootout. Some people look at the 443 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: body positioning, some people just pick aside and you go. 444 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think at the end of the day, 445 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: I'm just like, Okay, if you're gonna go, go hard. 446 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah. Moving onto your career at police, 447 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: was it in twenty nineteen you completed your study? Yeah, 448 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: and from what I've heard, you were pretty good academically. 449 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: You missed out on the top spot by half a mark, was. 450 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 3: It, Yeah, which was interesting. I've never been a. 451 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: School or a study kind of person, which kind of 452 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 2: touching on my rebellious or stubborn childhood. 453 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 3: I just wanted to play sport, So no, it was good. 454 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 3: It was twelve weeks at the academy for a PSO. 455 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: With the operational and academic training, and I think I 456 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: was just, you know, I wanted to do well, Like 457 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: anything I do. 458 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: It's the same with zocove. I want to do it. 459 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: I want to. I want to. 460 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to just ask, I want to actually 461 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: be the best. So yeah, I was pretty pretty proud 462 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: of myself to do to do very well in in academy. 463 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: And yeah, it was a long time ago, now four 464 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 2: and a half years, so little bit hazy at this point. 465 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: How was it that you got to that point of 466 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: choosing that you wanted to become a police officer. I 467 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: think it was that. 468 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: Thought process of obviously, you know, back then the pay 469 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: for a league was much worse than it is now, 470 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, what am I going 471 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 2: to do? Like how, you know, how am I going 472 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 2: to support myself after soccer? 473 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: Like what? You know? What's the plan? 474 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: And I was thinking about police kind of around the time. 475 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 2: It was it was never anything that I'd actually thought 476 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: of when I was younger, but I thought about it 477 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: for a good twelve months and I was like, yeah. 478 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: Let's just do it, let's apply. 479 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: And I wanted to apply for PSO so I could 480 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 2: get a better understanding a Victoria police without I guess 481 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: taking that giant leap. 482 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: Can you explain PSO for the listeners who may not 483 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: know yeah. 484 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 2: So PSO is a Protective Services officer at Victoria Police 485 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: and we are mainly stationed at train stations. There's also 486 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: a unit called PSU, which is the Protective Services Unit 487 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: and they are stationed out of landmarks such as Parliament House, 488 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 2: the Victorian Police Center, the Shriner of Remembrance, all those 489 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: kind of places. And I think the main appeal was 490 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: we get to work ten hour shifts, which means we 491 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 2: work eight days of fortnite and then we have six 492 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: days off for fortnite, which I thought was really attractive, 493 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: especially in terms of, you know, wanting to continue to 494 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: play soccer as well. So I applied for PSO. I 495 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 2: think it took about fourteen months at that time to 496 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: get into the process, into the into a squad, but 497 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: I think think it's sped up a lot more the 498 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: recruiting process since then. 499 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: And what is it that you love about the career 500 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: that you currently have other than the leaves. 501 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: It's pretty good, no, I I do like I like 502 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: the Victoria place because it's always had the opportunity to 503 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: go down different pathways. I've never been someone that likes 504 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: to do the same thing for too long, so I 505 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: think being able to be a PSO and then being 506 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: able to cross over and then you know, you can 507 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: do general duties or you can go down other other 508 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: pathways such as you know, highway patrol, dog squad in 509 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: be a detective. There's just you know, there's just so 510 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: many different things that you can do within the organization. 511 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite story from your time as 512 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: a as an officer? Favorite story? 513 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know it's You're probably gonna think 514 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: it's a bit lame, but I think I was just 515 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: really proud of the way. 516 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: I did this job. 517 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: And I was just at Flinders Street station one night 518 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: and we heard a ruckus downstairs while we were having 519 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: having a meal break, and me and my offsiders, we 520 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: just kind of looked at each other. 521 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: And we're like, yeah, let's go, Like it's great time. 522 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 1: We just got up. 523 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: We went outside and I was the first one to 524 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: get down there because obviously so quick. 525 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, that's that's. 526 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: Why I didn't push my my offsiders either the way. 527 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: No, No, I was the first one down there, and 528 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: just I saw a brawl in front of me, and. 529 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: I was just on the radio and. 530 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: I was was like, location, this has happened back up, 531 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: and I just think I was just I don't know 532 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: why it sticks out of my mind. I think it's 533 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: just because it was such a clean job and I 534 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: had another unit there within like fifteen seconds to stop 535 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: the brawl with us, and I think I was just 536 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: really proud of my communication and obviously adrenaline, and I 537 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: think that's just probably why that one sticks out in 538 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: my mind. 539 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: I like that. What do you think it is in 540 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: those moments? Like, is it something over time you've got 541 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: better at or do you think it's part of your 542 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: sporting career that's helped you. What do you think it 543 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: is It can make you a good communicator in like 544 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: the intense moment. 545 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: I think it's partly obviously training it academy probably they 546 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: try to drill into a bit you know what to do, 547 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: and you go over what to do so many times 548 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: in those kind of circumstances. But I think also the 549 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: high pressure situation. You know, it's like with playing in 550 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: front of a big crowd. You know, you've got so 551 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: many people watching you and you've got to make a decision. 552 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: You know, someone's it's like being a goalkeep overstanding the 553 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: goal of someone's running at you. You're going to run 554 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: out them, You're going to stay where you are. So 555 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: I think you know that those higher pressure situations that 556 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: you have to be cool, calm, collected in. 557 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: Is that a weird thing for you, this kind of 558 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: move towards like the technology and that idea that so 559 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: many things are filmed, Like, is it weird sometimes when 560 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: you're on the job and in moments like that where 561 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: there might be a brawl or something going on, to 562 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: think that people are watching in that context. 563 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 3: I think it's just, you know, it's just the world 564 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: we live in. 565 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 2: I'm just used to you know, there's so much technology 566 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: going on, like anything can come out at any time 567 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: of like if you're on your phone, you know, like 568 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: everything's tracked, everything's traced, and I think just you know, 569 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: it's being in the eye of the public being you know, 570 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: part of Victoria Police. You know, you have to be professional. 571 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: All the time. People are always watching. 572 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: You have to And it's the same with being an athlete. 573 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: You know, people look up to you, people your role 574 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: model to people, and I think that they definitely go 575 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: hand in hand with that kind of stuff. 576 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, what would you say to someone who 577 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: is thinking about a career at VIC Police. 578 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: I think it's a pretty good job. Yeah, I I like. 579 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: I Actually I'm surprised I'm in this job thinking back 580 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: to when I was a kid, just a lot younger 581 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: and really stubborn and you know, didn't want to follow 582 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: rules or anything like that. But I definitely think, you know, 583 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: if your if your values and your morals aligned with 584 00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 2: those of Victoria Place, then that's definitely definitely something you 585 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: should do, because I think if you ought to be 586 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: in this job, you have to have the same kind 587 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: of morals and values and in the job on outside 588 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: the job. 589 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really cool. It's been really cool to hear 590 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: about your story, and I love this idea that you 591 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: kind of you very much decide your own destiny in 592 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: a way. I love the fact that you just sent 593 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: the email and just said, hey, give me a chance. 594 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: I think it's so cool that you've really had the 595 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: courage to put yourself out there and that you're back 596 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: in a position to keep aiming to play at the 597 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: top level. I've really loved chatting to you today, Bet. 598 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time and for being really 599 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: open and honest with your story, no worries. 600 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: Thanks for you know, allowing me to share it and. 601 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: You know, talk about my career as both the Protective 602 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: service sufficer and you know, an athlete. 603 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's awesome. Thank you so much, Thanks so much 604 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: for listening. If you got something out of this episode, 605 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 1: I would absolutely love it if you could send it 606 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: on to one person who you think might enjoy it. 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