1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Well as we know, Parliament resuming in the Northern Territory 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: for the next two weeks. The Territory Coordinator legislation is 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: set to be debated and passed, which the government says 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: will herald a new way of developing the territory. The 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Leader of Government Business, Steve Edgington, saying the Territory Coordinator 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: is going to give us a competitive edge against other 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: states who've not undertaken the level of reform that we have, 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: and no doubt the independent inquiry into recent senior police 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: recruitments will be high on the agenda. The Chief Minister 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: joining us on the show about this yesterday and saying 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: that the review was an important step to create confidence 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: and give certainty not just to the rank and file 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: of the police force, but those in leadership positions. I'm 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: pleased to say. Joining me on the line right now 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: is the Opposition leader Selena Hubo. Good morning to. 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: You, Katy, Good morning to you listeners. 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time today. Now, Selena, what 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: do you hope this review into the Northern Territory police 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: recruitment fines? 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie, I think it's a really important step forward 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: to support our police. We know that there has been 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: a loss of confidence in police leadership and I think 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: this will go a long way, so our tertiary labor 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: opposition does support that. I'm also hearing Katie that there 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: are some police who would like to see the inquiry 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: or the review expanded to include some more aspects and 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: a wider scope. So I would be very interested to 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: see if Livnokierras, the Police Minister, is going to take 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: that up. I think that would also go a long 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: way to support the police and wanting to move forward. 31 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: How much further are they saying? What are you hearing 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: on the ground. 33 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, what I'm hearing Katie through my networks is an 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: expansion around the position, so some of those recruitment positions 35 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: not just within the scope that the Chief Minister has outlaid, 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: so other the rank and file positions as well. So 37 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: I think that would be interesting to see if that's 38 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: something that the CLP government is going to take up. 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: But I'm hopefully the Chief Minister's having those conversations with 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: the police as well. 41 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: No doubt they are, and no doubt that is going 42 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: to be something that will be a real focus today 43 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: in Parliament. I would imagine we also know the Chief 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: Minister said on the show yesterday she intends to table 45 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: the KAC report to Parliament this week. She is seeking advice, 46 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: as I understand it, legal advice and advice from the IKAC. 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: But do you think that this report needs to be tabled? 48 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, o, Katie absolutely, We've been calling for the Chief 49 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: Minister to release that report. Leave Noocquiero does have parliamentary privilege. 50 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: I know she's been talking about legal advice. I mean 51 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: that's nearly three weeks now. You'd think that she would 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: have that as the Chief Minister in access to all 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: of the legal brains in government to be able to 54 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: provide that advice. She is the responsible minister for the 55 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: IKAK and I think it's an important way for territory 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: public to understand what's in operation upon that report. But 57 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: more in particular those recommendations. There's recommendations in there, Katie 58 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: that no one knows what they are. So what are 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: those recommendations to be able to move forward once that 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: report is publicly released. 61 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I agree with you. I think that those 62 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: recommendations are incredibly important. I think it's incredibly important for 63 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: people to have some context as well with this report. 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: She said on the show yesterday that the only thing 65 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: that could potentially prevent her. I asked her what would 66 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: prevent the IKAC from allowing it to be tabled in parliament. 67 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: She said, it's around the way that they collect evidence 68 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: and the fact that people that they can compel people 69 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: force people to disclose information that a court or another 70 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: process wouldn't allow them to do. So it's about making 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: sure that what's being made public is information that's available 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: to be made public, and she reckons that's not her call. 73 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you say to that. 74 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: I think obviously she's getting all of that legal advice. 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: We've seen reports that have been released to the public 76 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: that have been redacted. If it's about protecting information that's 77 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: come from a particular person in that evidence collecting process, 78 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: so I think it all can be done. I think 79 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: territories expect it to be released publicly. We know that 80 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: we're in parliament today, of course, Katie, ahead of a 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: big two weeks of parliament for the Northern territory. We 82 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: expect and we have been asking for the Chief Minister 83 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: to release that report and we'll continue to do so 84 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: this week. 85 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: But so for you, the reality is you know what 86 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean. Obviously the whole lot. We want to see 87 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: the whole lot. But if parts need to be redacted, 88 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: that's fair enough. But realistically those recommendations do need to 89 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: be made public. 90 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's one of the most important things 91 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: if we're talking about moving forward and really supporting police 92 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: to restore trust and integrity and leadership of the force. 93 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,119 Speaker 2: I think that's a really important part of the process, Katie, 94 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: to see those recommendations. 95 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: Now, if you have just joined us, we are on 96 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: the line with Selena Rubo, the opposition leader now said 97 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: to the Chief Minister yesterday, there has indeed been comparison 98 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: drawn between the Aykak report and the investigation by police 99 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: into Colin Gwin a number of years ago. Now, the 100 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: Chief Minister said she's not ruled out an inquiry into 101 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: the Gwinn situation. Do you think that there needs to 102 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: be an inquiry or at least a look at this 103 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: by Eyekak. 104 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: I think that there's been a lot of interest in 105 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: this particular case, Katie. Of course, the territory is a 106 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: small place and people know each other in those high 107 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: level positions. I think if that's something the Colpa government 108 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: wants to do, We'll wait and see what the processes are. 109 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: Obviously that's slightly different in the sense that it was 110 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: a police operation that particular process into the Children's Commissioner. 111 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: Obviously the Aykak is governed by legislation and an act. 112 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: Police of course have their Police Administration Act. But I 113 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: believe that was a police operation, not a obviously an 114 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: EYECAC investigation. So a few difference is there. But if 115 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: that's something that the Chief Minister has said that she'll pursue, 116 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: we'll wait and see. If that's something that she will 117 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 2: look at with her government, well. 118 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: Look, we will have a we will certainly continue that discussion. 119 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: I mean, why didn't the government that you were part 120 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: of look into that further? I get what you're saying 121 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: that it was a police investigation, but at the very least, 122 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you would have thought at some point, you 123 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: know that potentially the former Children's Commissioner deserved an apology. 124 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie, I don't have all of the details. Very 125 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: happy to go back and to sort of get some 126 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: of that from our former time in government. But I 127 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: think in terms of seeing processes that territories can have 128 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: trust and faith in, I think that's the bigger picture here. 129 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: When there is natural justice, how do people in the 130 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: territory know and respect those processes? So it doesn't matter 131 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: who's being investigated, what's being investigated, that there are are 132 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: processes and a responsibility by whoever was conducting those processes 133 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: or investigations, that there are fulsome reports, recommendations, and natural 134 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: justice to whoever or whatever is being investigated. 135 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the Territory Coordinator Bill. We 136 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: know the Northern Territories for Land Councils have united to 137 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: call for the Territory Coordinator Bill to be dumped. They 138 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: say that the bill excludes Aboriginal people from involvement in 139 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: development decisions on their traditional lands and prevents them from 140 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: protecting their land and their culture. Do you think the 141 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: bill is excluding Aboriginal. 142 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: People, Katie? I know that the land councels, the four 143 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: Land Councils released a statement just late last week around 144 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: their concerns for the Territory Coordinator Bill. My understanding some 145 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: of the pressures and concerns from the Land councils is 146 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: around questions that have been asked, are not quite answered 147 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: in this public scrutiny and commit process of the bill. 148 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: It's quite concerning for anyone, not just averageal territories, but 149 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: anyone in the territory if you're asking questions about how 150 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: a law of the Northern Territory will affect them their property, 151 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: you know, their family, their business, their livelihood, and those 152 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: questions can't be answered by the government. So I think 153 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: that's the bigger picture here around having that certainty of 154 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: knowing if this is the situation, can this occur or 155 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: can this not occur? And we still have a lot 156 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: of unanswered questions from the public around what would impact 157 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: them when it comes to the Territory Coordinator Bill. 158 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: I know that there has been community action outside INNTI 159 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: Parliament this morning, various groups opposing the Territory Coordinator Bill. 160 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: Did Labor take part in. 161 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: That, Yeah, Katie, there was a protest this morning, go peaceful. 162 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: I think between fifty to one hundred people at the 163 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: front of Parliament voicing concerns I think from a range 164 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: of different parts of the community and for different reasons 165 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: protesting against it. We had one of our members there 166 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: to listen to that conversation. We've really focused this week, Katie, 167 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: to put forward amendments to the Sea or pick government 168 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: on this bill. I know there were some big changes 169 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: from the original draft of the Territory Coordinator Bill to 170 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: what went out publicly for consultation and feedback. We want 171 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: to be constructive. We've said that from the start, Katie 172 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: in the Labor Opposition, we've put forward seven key recommendations 173 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: of amendments that we believe will meet community expectation when 174 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: it comes to the Territory Coordinator Bill. We yet to 175 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: hear from the CLP government if they'll adopt those amendments 176 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: to make what we feel will be a stronger bill 177 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: for territories, but also provide that certainty that I spoke 178 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: about before, questions that can't be answered at the moment. 179 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: We feel these amendments would be able to provide certainty 180 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: for territories who have particular concerns or are quite upset 181 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: about certain elements of this bill. 182 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: Look, I know that there's obviously people protesting outside of 183 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: parts element today. I know that there are concerns around 184 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: these from some in the community. There's others in the 185 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: community who really feel like we need to get things 186 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: moving and they've, you know, to put it bluntly, I 187 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: guess they've had a gutful of people trying to hold 188 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: things up. 189 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that's frustrating when projects don't get off 190 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: the ground. It's frustrating when administrative burden is the cause 191 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: of a delay for something good that people have proposed 192 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: or investing in. I think one of the key things 193 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: that we've focused on through the public hearings and the 194 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: committee process, Katie, from our labor opposition was some of 195 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: the questions that have come from organizations who actually made 196 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: submissions and provided that publicly. But the questions are around organization, sorry, 197 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: questions for our organizations who actually employed their own barristers 198 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: and lawyers to go through the legislation because they wanted 199 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: to know what impact, for better or for worse, would 200 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: happen once this bill is enacted, and some of the 201 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: legal uncertainty still remains. So I think that's a really 202 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: key one. I know the CLP really wants to hang 203 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: their hat on this bill. We just want to make 204 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: sure that it answers the questions the territorians and that 205 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: it does do what it is intended to do, Katie, 206 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: which is reduced administration and that burden of red tape, 207 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: which no one likes. Red tape right, So what but 208 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: how do we get the legal certainty that through some 209 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: of the processes it's not actually going to create more 210 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: burden in any of the processes, so that there's some 211 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: of those questions that still remain unanswered for us Katie. 212 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: To me, though, that doesn't sound unusual. I mean we 213 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: very often see sort of environmental groups or interest groups 214 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: lawyer up and then try to slow things down. 215 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I definitely get particularly in the 216 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: territory the last couple of years, we have some very 217 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: public examples of that. But we also want to make 218 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: sure that if this bill is intending to fast track things, 219 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: that it's done in the right way, but it also 220 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: does fast track things, that it's not going to actually 221 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: create any pressure points or or slow the pipeline down, 222 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: which is obviously the intention of the bill is to 223 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 2: beat things up. So we want to make sure that 224 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: that certainty is there for territorians too. 225 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: All right, Well, it's going to be an interesting day, 226 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: there is no doubt about it. Two weeks of parliament 227 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: opposition later, What is on the opposition's agender? I know 228 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: you've spoken about some of those things, but what are 229 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: you really going to focus on? Over the coming days. 230 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie, we've got an important job. It's probably a 231 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: job that no one really wants to do in the territory, 232 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: which is to make sure that those really big questions 233 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: and uncertainties around government and particularly around legislation and laws 234 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: of the Northern Territory, that there's accountability in the Parliament 235 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: and we do get those answers that we've been given 236 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: by Territorians, particularly the last six weeks to excuse me, 237 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 2: four weeks between the two parliament sitting, so we want 238 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: to focus on those key issues that territorians have raised 239 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: with us. We've got some very very big pieces of 240 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: legislation that are going through. Some things we want to support, 241 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: some things we want to ask more questions and get 242 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: answers to, and others that we don't support. So we'll 243 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: be doing our job in opposition and keeping the government accountable. 244 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: Katie Well, Opposition Leader Selena Ruba. I will certainly be 245 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: doing my best to watch in breaks on air and 246 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: also wait once I get off air, so we will 247 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: no doubt talk to you again very soon. 248 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Katie, appreciate your time. 249 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: Thanks so much.