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Speaker 2: barbershop here and a performance for a world class barbershop

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Speaker 2: core TETs. Now currently three positions in the Barbershop Corset

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Speaker 2: have been filmed. I'm singing the bass in the Barbershop Quartet.

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Speaker 2: We've also got Phil Burton from Human Nature and Rob

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Speaker 2: Mills who joins.

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Speaker 1: Back in the studio right now, guys.

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Speaker 5: It's good just staying here. I've got Swag at the back.

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Speaker 1: There's a bit of work, so there is a bit

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Speaker 1: of work to do.

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Speaker 2: Has been rearranging the words and Phil has been rearranging

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Speaker 2: the music rehearsals.

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Speaker 1: We're better than midnight Oil here, aren't we?

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Speaker 6: And I've been training hard to try and earn my

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Speaker 6: place in the quartet.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 6: I just there's a bit of tension going on within

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Speaker 5: You've made that very clear.

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Speaker 6: Well, no, look I I yeah, Phil, I'm feeling some

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Speaker 2: No, No, I think I think you've made some good

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Speaker 6: I love that from Phil and Millsy I haven't turned

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Speaker 6: much hair for you. So it's no for me a

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Speaker 1: It's not.

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Speaker 5: In most of these shows, right, these talent shows. You

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Speaker 6: Competitor get better along the journey. Yeah, and I've seen

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Speaker 6: I haven't really seen any.

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Speaker 1: You haven't said anything else that you're going to be

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Speaker 6: Well, it's time to show you boys some X factor

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Speaker 6: because I want to sing for you right now if

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Speaker 6: I could, okay, and I feel like if you unanimously

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Speaker 6: decide that this is good enough, then I'm in.

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Speaker 8: Oh.

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Speaker 9: I think we're all in my.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I can be an impartial judge here,

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Speaker 2: Like you're my best mate and you know if I

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Speaker 2: kick you out, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Going to work.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to be some weirdness.

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Speaker 1: I think so.

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Speaker 2: So I have brought along an impartial judge. Arguably the

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Speaker 2: foundation of judging music in Australia. The name of the

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Speaker 2: face that everybody would associate with that it's and Dicko Dixon.

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Speaker 1: Welcome dick O.

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Speaker 8: Hello, boys, I'm very excited. I haven't had any fresh

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Speaker 2: It's brutal, still brutal, Dicko, Well you heard all that. Mate,

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Speaker 2: Woods wants to be part of the quartet. I think

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Speaker 2: impartial judge. I know you've been preparing and singing a lot.

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Speaker 2: You're willing to sing a couple of songs for Dicko.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean Dicko has already heard me sing a

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Speaker 6: We're in the jungle together, dick I, I used to

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that was a little bit disturbing. It wasn't a

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Speaker 8: barbershop quartet either. You will fit well in a barbershop

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Speaker 8: quartet because being an next private schoolboy, you've got your

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Speaker 5: What song my first song?

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Speaker 6: I'd like to do it because I just feel like

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Speaker 6: you guys need to see it my best and this

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Speaker 6: is one of the hardest songs to sing.

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Speaker 5: It's Whitney Houston. I Will Always love You.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh no is hating it already.

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Speaker 5: Thoughts on song selection, Dicko.

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Speaker 8: Ah, you've gone for the high board straight up.

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Speaker 5: Apparently we need a falsetto within the quartet. So there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are lacking that. So that's the role he's

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Speaker 5: Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, this is obviously the start with that backing.

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Speaker 5: Here we go.

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Speaker 6: You can't love me.

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Speaker 5: Far should stay?

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't ly be You're way, so go, please go.

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Speaker 9: I know I'll think of you every step of the way.

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Speaker 1: Come on, you can do it.

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Speaker 5: Here goes and no, Well, I mean I got high.

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Speaker 5: He did get that note.

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Speaker 1: You got that note?

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Speaker 5: So Phil, if you could control it, I think you're

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Speaker 5: in thank you. This is all about this is a

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Speaker 1: What do you think, I think, Houston, we have a problem.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'd love to see a little more commitment and

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Speaker 8: a little less giggling like a thirteen year old girl,

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Speaker 8: to be honest.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's totally we know.

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Speaker 1: I love Hey.

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Speaker 2: Before you get into this, obviously you were on the

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Speaker 2: season of Ossie Idol when when Mills was on there

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Speaker 2: as well memories of Mills as a kid on oz

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Speaker 2: the Idol as he matured at all.

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Speaker 8: He's matured beautifully. He's actually one of my favorite people

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Speaker 8: were on tour at the Idol Entertainment Center tour and

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Speaker 8: we reached Perth. We had a massive night out. None

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Speaker 8: eating and Mills was there in the breakfast room. I said,

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Speaker 8: I've just got up. I promised the kids at the

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Speaker 8: I did it on my own back, and that's when

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Speaker 1: Wow, it was going south for a while.

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Speaker 5: All these stories are ticking through your life.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I was out that night.

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Speaker 5: It was a very big night. I think you were.

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Speaker 5: Shann got tattoos the idle too.

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Speaker 8: There was more sex, drugs and rock and roll than

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Speaker 8: some raptors.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was a very big come good.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Well, Phil, I'm going to open Pandora's box with while

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Speaker 2: you guys were residents in Vegas, all very well behaved.

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Speaker 2: A separate podcast for that one. But let's get down

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Speaker 2: to it. Okay, one final song. Here does Woods enter

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Speaker 2: the barbershop Quartet. I don't have a name for the

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Speaker 2: barbershop quartet. We have to think about that.

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Speaker 5: Let's just focus on the members first.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, So I feel like song selection was a

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Speaker 6: problem last time.

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Speaker 5: This one is just way more.

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Speaker 6: Me just you know, I sing this eight times a

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Speaker 6: week in Anguliette, so I know this song very long.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, Dico, you're ready? Uh huh you were.

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Speaker 5: My fare yea the one Dezi.

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Speaker 9: You believe.

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Speaker 6: When I say, ah Won, it's that way, but we'd uh.

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Speaker 5: To worlds upper.

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Speaker 6: Ken read to ya when you see that wan it

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Speaker 6: that way?

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Speaker 5: Tell me why in nothing but.

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Speaker 11: Tell me why in nothing but miss tell me why

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Speaker 11: I never wanted sick.

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Speaker 5: Won it's that way.

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Speaker 1: But Phil's climbing. I mean I'll give it a club

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Speaker 5: Not bad, not bad.

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Speaker 1: That was good.

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Speaker 5: I always had Phil. I knew I had you. I

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Speaker 5: know where you talk. I actually got to actually enjoyed that, Dicko.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm going to go either way to go.

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Speaker 8: I've heard that.

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Speaker 1: It's on the book to go.

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Speaker 5: You know it's on the walk.

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Speaker 8: Would yes, I would basically give you a big thumbs

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Speaker 8: chindustry dictates there is always one member of a boy

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Speaker 8: band that can't sing for ship.

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Speaker 1: So he's in. He's in.

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Speaker 11: You're in, mate, dick O, do you want to manage us?

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Speaker 8: I've got to do my sock draw on my friend.

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Speaker 2: Oh thanks, dick on Melindy and what is in the barbershop?

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Speaker 2: Cort first challenge is going to be verus tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We've got the Wiggles on the show. I think we're

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Speaker 1: going to have a quartet off against the Wiggles while

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Speaker 1: we do that. Oh, I think we're just gonna aim high.

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Speaker 1: Just get in there.

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Speaker 5: Like it, you know, I suppose. Yeah, we've got to

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Speaker 5: start something. Take down a big fish, right, I like it.

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Speaker 1: You and the beab share a bit of common ground.

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Speaker 5: Oh, no, jabt, no doubt.

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Speaker 6: If you ever see a picture or video of Hailey

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Speaker 6: of the time, Biber looks sloppy.

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Speaker 1: The clothes he's wearing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, beautiful man, don't get me wrong, but

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Speaker 6: clothing sloppy. We're talking crocs, trackies, the hoodie, oversized hoodies.

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Speaker 6: And then Hailey will be dressed to the nines.

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Speaker 5: You know, like a cocktail dress almost here's a bit

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Speaker 5: of news talking about that.

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Speaker 12: Justin Bieber may have to say sorry to his wife

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Speaker 12: Haley as the Internet has some thoughts on their opposite

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Speaker 12: sense of fashion. Hailey was dressed wearing a strapless red

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Speaker 12: mini dress with matching shoes in purse. Meanwhile, her husband

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Speaker 12: opted for a much more casual look and wearing a

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Speaker 12: gray hoodie, white jim shorts, all tied together with yellow crocks.

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Speaker 5: And a pink hat.

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Speaker 6: Okay, mem and I are currently going through a bit

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Speaker 6: of a thing where if we have a dinner or

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Speaker 6: an event, yeah, I generally speaking will be a bit cash.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't love dressing up. I feel far more comfortable

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Speaker 6: in let's call it the slop out fit. Yeah, Whereas

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Speaker 6: she really enjoys dressing up, and she has recently been

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Speaker 6: saying to me that it kind of spoils it for

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Speaker 2: Well, I think there are I'm on MIM's team here

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Speaker 2: I had the moment that I had with you so

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that always hurts. That hurts every is mimbring.

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Speaker 2: Your clothes and to be fair, you know, sometimes I'm

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Speaker 2: Like hilarious, like like like fruity socks pulled up above

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Speaker 6: But I think what we need to get down to

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Speaker 1: I disagree with that.

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Speaker 6: I should be able to wear what I want to wear.

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Speaker 2: If you want to dress up. If your partner wants

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Speaker 6: On vans, on vans, board shorts, fans, just criminal and

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Speaker 6: Comfort and ease? I got sick of shoelaces, hated you.

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Speaker 2: I want to be a point whereby there's a self

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Speaker 5: Okay, there's another part of it.

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Speaker 6: I actually thought with a slip on, and people thought, oh,

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Speaker 13: Hi? So I'm usually the underdress up. I usually got

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Speaker 13: And I get told by my husband, my mom, mom,

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point.

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Speaker 6: So here's where I differ slightly. So Okay, for MIM's birthday.

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Speaker 1: That LA's going to shoot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah my birthday, still a nice dinner. Slopped it

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So then I'll take that to weddings. I would

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Speaker 1: Where if it's like I can't respect you, they they

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Speaker 6: They're like, oh, Woodie, classic, you know you've slopped it up.

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Speaker 2: Specifically with Mim because you know, the other night we

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Speaker 1: Pulling up abuf the ankle. Yeah, that she took convience

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Speaker 2: Hated it, but again it was our manager, taking yourself

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Speaker 1: So you were like, look, our dinner exactly right.

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Speaker 2: I know that the crocs have been banned as well?

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Speaker 1: You tried to. We both bought crocs in Brisbane. I

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Speaker 1: What's the what's the footwear thing for her?

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Speaker 6: She pretty much hates all the footwear that I wear.

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Speaker 6: But I think she's started to realize that it's just

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Speaker 5: Because because I.

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Speaker 1: Wear what are you currently wearing? What sort of shoes

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Speaker 6: Right now, I'm wearing a van or you're back in

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Speaker 2: We are out of the city at the lad so

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Speaker 6: I've got Gracey here on thirty one sixty five grades.

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Speaker 6: This is great. You think you've got a solution to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, easy, so easy. So you get to pick one

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Speaker 4: have your singlet, have it open with your white singlet. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't mind this.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, is that your rule, Grace, is that your rule

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Speaker 4: Just sort of dressed, doesn't no choice.

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Speaker 1: But very excited to say I've got Matthew Riley in

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Speaker 5: Great to be here, guys, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: So good to have you here, so good to have you.

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Speaker 5: I'm making this start up, but I reckon it's accurate.

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Speaker 6: I would say that one of your born books would

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Speaker 14: I would be very happy with that. We've sold a

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Speaker 6: But because you see those books everywhere right and on

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Speaker 6: behalf of my mum. I'd like to thank you because

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Speaker 6: as a kid I hated reading. I never read. You

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Speaker 6: could never get me to sit down and read a book.

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Speaker 6: And then I got ice station you just you brought

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Speaker 6: so much excitement.

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Speaker 5: Like movies into books.

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Speaker 6: Was that the intention when you started writing is like

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Speaker 6: I'm just going to make these so action packed that

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Speaker 6: any kid is going to pick these up and absolutely

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Speaker 14: That's pretty much my moo. I wanted Ice Station just

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Speaker 14: to be NonStop from start to finish. It was, And

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Speaker 14: span that you just have to be action scene, action scene,

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Speaker 5: Hell yes, and.

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Speaker 14: They got picked up by non reading teenage boys.

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Speaker 1: I also get.

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Speaker 14: I get wives coming to book signing saying my husband

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Speaker 14: who hasn't read since high school, he's thirty one years old.

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Speaker 14: He reads car magazines. Yeah, yeah, I gave him My

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Speaker 14: Station or seven Ancient Wonders, and now they're off to

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Speaker 15: I never intended to do he's reading again, or he's

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Speaker 15: back to the races. I really appreciate the books, but

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Speaker 15: What can I say?

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Speaker 14: Maybe there was a poor choice of words, but maybe

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Speaker 14: it's accurate too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Men over that age hate well. Because the other thing

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Speaker 6: Scarecrow Area seven Area.

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Speaker 1: Seven like shoved in their bags.

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Speaker 2: The other interesting thing about book, obviously is you don't

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Speaker 14: The author of fame is actually the best kind of fame,

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Speaker 14: I figured, because it doesn't quite happen now. But I

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Speaker 14: and I could go and check out Rebel Sport and

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Speaker 14: I got there a fraction early, so I went for

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Speaker 1: Four times.

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Speaker 5: I think they're dying. They must be die hard.

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Speaker 14: Actually, it's funny you talk about people having the books

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Speaker 14: I stationary seven in there in the backpack. Sot me

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Speaker 14: do a big name drop. When I made my movie

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Speaker 1: I got invited on Netflix.

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Speaker 14: That was on Netflix was Interceptor, And I went to

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Speaker 14: Chris's set for thor Love and Thunder, Oh my god,

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Speaker 14: and Matt Damon was there. Goodness, And Chris introduces me

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Speaker 14: to Matt Tayment and to Tigerway TD and he goes,

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Speaker 14: this is Matthew Railey. He directed Elsie's movie, and he

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Speaker 14: wrote Ice Station.

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Speaker 6: Chris Hemsworth, Wow, So Hemsworth read Ice Station.

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Speaker 14: Of a certain age.

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Speaker 1: And Matt Damon knew all that, like he was across

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Speaker 14: You know me and Matt Now we're just when he said, oh,

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Speaker 14: this is Matt Riley. He directed Elsa's movie. Matt Damon

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Speaker 14: meets a lot of people, I'm sure, and it's like.

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Speaker 1: Who the hell is this guy?

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Speaker 14: But his eyes lit up and he goes, oh, man,

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Speaker 14: Elsa had so much fun making your movie. She was

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Speaker 14: Matt Damon's good for it. So you remember me. I'm

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Speaker 5: Well, speaking of it's funny.

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Speaker 6: I spent obviously a long portion of my childhood trying

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Speaker 6: to imagine what Scarecrow looks like. So Scarecrow is the

448
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Speaker 6: main character from Ice Station Area seven, and obviously Scarecrow.

449
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Speaker 5: In your mind. Who would play Scarecrow?

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Speaker 14: Well, Chris Hemsworth is actually a pretty good idea for

451
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Speaker 14: Scarecrow's look, you know, lean and handsome. Josh Dumel was

452
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Speaker 14: always a good look. But again, these actors, they get

453
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Speaker 14: old really quick. So Josh Dorms is just now too

454
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Speaker 14: old to play. So I'd be looking for a young

455
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Speaker 14: actor looking like him, Okay, and then you put scars

456
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Speaker 14: down across his eyes and beat the hell out of him.

457
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Speaker 2: It's such beat the hell out of him? Can I

458
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Speaker 2: ask Matthew like you come across as a very gentle guy,

459
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Speaker 2: like humble quiet? Obviously the content of your books his

460
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Speaker 2: well action page to page, relentless guns, artillery, spies, all

461
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Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. Why why does that I'm missing something?

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Speaker 14: I feel like am I very dark on.

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Speaker 5: The Is it good?

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Speaker 14: It's good therapy, it gets it, gets it out in

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Speaker 14: a very safe space. No, you know, just just in

466
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Speaker 14: millions of copies around the world. No, I like to

467
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Speaker 14: think I'm a pretty well adjusted guy. But in the books,

468
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Speaker 14: you know, it's supposed to be thrilling and and death

469
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Speaker 14: has to be something to be really feared, and so

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Speaker 14: the deaths in my books are pretty violent. The funny

471
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Speaker 14: thing is, you know my book Scarecrow. Scarecrow was this

472
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Speaker 14: super fast book, really really quite violent, and a lot

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Speaker 14: of people got their head chopped off in Scarecrow for

474
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Speaker 14: plot reasons. But it had a sex scene in it,

475
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Speaker 14: a little two line sex scene in it, and.

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Speaker 1: A two line sex scene.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it was very quick.

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Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like me. Every time.

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Speaker 14: It got banned at this librari school librarian wrote this

480
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Speaker 14: email to all these other school librarians said, ladies, just

481
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Speaker 14: so you know, the new Matthew Riley book has a

482
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Speaker 14: sex scene. It was a minor character in like some

483
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Speaker 14: red light district in Berlin. Right for the school librarian.

484
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Speaker 14: The shocking violence in the books, that was no problem.

485
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Speaker 14: But the one sex scene. Now, then I wrote a

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Speaker 14: book years later called The Tournament.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I heard about this because I saw in an interview

489
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Speaker 2: you said that your friends found it to be your favorite.

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Speaker 14: Book because of the sex scenes.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 1: It's got a very bit of scenes.

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Speaker 14: It's got very explicit sex scenes in the Tournament, right,

494
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Speaker 14: And so yeah, I'm sitting around with my buddies in

495
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Speaker 14: America where I live, and they're sitting around there, someone says,

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Speaker 14: you know, my favorite book yours is the Tournament, you know?

497
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Speaker 14: And someone is that the one with all the sex

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Speaker 14: in it? Because yeah, because yeah, that's my favorite too.

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Speaker 14: I wonder what that librarian's saying.

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Speaker 6: Now, should send it to a send her a signed copy?

501
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Speaker 6: Flick through this one, like six. I find the writing

502
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Speaker 6: of sex scenes so interesting though, right.

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Speaker 1: Or you read a lot of erotic fiction these days.

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Speaker 5: I read a lot of Colleen Hoover.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I sort of Fluxshaw between you and Hoover, a

506
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Speaker 6: combination of the tube.

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Speaker 2: He really is like a sixteen year old boy, just

508
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Speaker 2: eroticism and machine guns.

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Speaker 5: I've never grown out of him.

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Speaker 6: But so in a sex scene, how do you how

511
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Speaker 6: do you get the idea for a sex scene like.

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Speaker 14: It's actually it is really hard, and then yours have

513
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Speaker 14: to factor in that your mother's going to read.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true, and it's it's.

515
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Speaker 14: Always a question of how do you use the word

516
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Speaker 14: penis it is?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean this is true?

518
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Speaker 5: What do you mean it's just.

519
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Speaker 14: Therapy, that's all right, the old sort of you know,

520
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Speaker 14: Mills and Boon stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: You know, she fell into his arms, and she she

523
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Speaker 14: felt his his passion, his passion, that's right, his glorious passion.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

526
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Speaker 14: So you're using every word you could to not say penis.

527
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Speaker 14: But I think fifty Shades of Gray just freed us,

528
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Speaker 14: all right, and fun enough, I wrote Tournament. I wrote

529
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Speaker 14: Tournament before fifty Shades of Gray, right, for some reason,

530
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Speaker 14: we held it back a couple of years, and so

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Speaker 14: fifty Shades of Great stole my thunder. I would be

532
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Speaker 14: her if it weren't for that. I'm just saying, Oh,

533
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Speaker 14: but there's probably a librarian who just had a you know,

534
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Speaker 14: an aneurysm when she read Torment.

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Speaker 2: She read fifty Shades of Gray. So you don't know

536
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Speaker 2: when to use the word penis. Do you have to

537
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Speaker 2: use the word penis?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 14: Hell yeah, yeah, you just do.

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Speaker 2: You just go there, but like from a from a

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Speaker 2: male perspective of from a female perspective, or just like

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Speaker 2: because I mean, I imagine both of your books are written

543
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Speaker 2: from a male's perspective.

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Speaker 14: No, actually, good question. Tournament and the new one written

545
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Speaker 14: from a female perspective, and I mean, let's just put

546
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Speaker 14: it all out there. Tournament was a chess tournament set

547
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Speaker 14: in the fifteen forties in constantinopook. So literally sex parties.

548
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Speaker 15: In the right, okay, every night, just describing one penis,

549
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Speaker 15: describing a plethora of penis and all filled with sort

550
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Speaker 15: of couplings in these sort of incense.

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Speaker 1: Filled small chambers. Wow.

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Speaker 14: So I suppose it actually goes back to your original question.

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Speaker 14: You try to make it more sensual and erotic rather

554
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Speaker 14: than mechanical. And so to me, it's all about more mood, mood, mood,

555
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Speaker 14: And in every revision of tournament it was all about

556
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Speaker 14: the mood.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So but for me, like if you're throwing the word

559
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Speaker 2: penis out there, like that's getting mechanical.

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Speaker 14: You've got to describe it as sort of a smoky

561
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Speaker 14: candlel it filled room.

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Speaker 1: Oh, penis.

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Speaker 5: Like Jaws. It's like Jaws.

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Speaker 1: I've never done that.

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Speaker 14: Radio.

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Speaker 5: But if you quite like this, how did we get here?

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Speaker 5: I actually feel like you took us in.

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Speaker 6: It's amazingly we are usually the conflicts the problem, but I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's quite a practical problem though, which I'm finding interesting.

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Speaker 14: I have to say the same thing about sex scenes

571
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Speaker 14: in movies. They're just they're not easy to film. I

572
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Speaker 14: suppose they're not easy to write either.

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Speaker 1: No, I can't imagine.

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Speaker 5: How do you go back to normal? Sorry? One more question,

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Speaker 5: one more.

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Speaker 6: If I've written a sex scene, like I'm probably pretty

577
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Speaker 6: involved in it. I'm into it, how do you then

578
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Speaker 6: go down to the shops and buy milk?

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Speaker 10: Like?

580
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Speaker 5: Do you need to like going there?

581
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Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

582
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Speaker 2: It's not saying penis in the fridge when he's getting

583
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Speaker 2: milk out of there?

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Speaker 5: Do you cut your milk down?

585
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Speaker 6: If I read it really hot and happening hoover hoover bit,

586
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Speaker 6: which is a real intense sex scene. It takes me

587
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Speaker 6: a bit of time to like cool off. If you're right,

588
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Speaker 6: it is there like a process.

589
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Speaker 10: You know.

590
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Speaker 14: I'm just a professional ins way to turn it on.

591
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 14: I can turn it on, turn it off. You've been there,

592
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Speaker 14: done that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he's written a lot of them.

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Speaker 5: Made no fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, mate, Loving to meet you guys.

596
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Speaker 2: Thanks for having Mestad in your book. It's called Mister

597
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: Einstein's Secretary.

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Speaker 1: He's out now in all good bookstores. Mate. We'll see

599
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Speaker 1: next time.

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, we were supposed to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she'd be quite check it out.

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Speaker 5: So good mate.

603
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Speaker 1: Seven.

604
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Speaker 2: I went away with the weekend, and I really want

605
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Speaker 2: to make be sure for a crack into this chat

606
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Speaker 2: that it's not excluding seeing people that don't have kids

607
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Speaker 2: or people that don't want to have kids, because I

608
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Speaker 2: was telling this to a button push a button, push

609
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Speaker 2: a Tom Turncoat, Tom who doesn't have children, and I

610
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Speaker 2: think largely hates children, so probably won't never get near it.

611
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Speaker 1: But I hate this show.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday you made a joke about pushing children off planes.

613
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Speaker 6: I mean it was totally well as.

614
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Speaker 2: He played Harrison Ford audio of him pushing somebody off

615
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Speaker 2: a plane.

616
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Speaker 1: It was awesome.

617
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Speaker 2: But the point is I was telling Tom this story

618
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Speaker 2: and he was fascinated because seven I went away for

619
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Speaker 2: the weekend, a couple of nights away from Max, which

620
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Speaker 2: we haven't done, and we obviously going away together. We

621
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Speaker 2: were like, what are we going to do while we're here?

622
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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, let's go here, Let's go

623
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Speaker 2: and do this, Let's go and do that. And she

624
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Speaker 2: was like, you know what, we can do that when

625
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Speaker 2: we're at home with the baby, right, we can always

626
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Speaker 2: go up, we can get someone to look after Max

627
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Speaker 2: for a couple of hours. But she was like, what

628
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Speaker 2: we can't do when we have a child is get

629
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Speaker 2: to bed at three o'clock in the afternoon and watch

630
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Speaker 2: TV until nine o'clock when we go to sleep.

631
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Speaker 5: So true.

632
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Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, we can. And then it

633
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Speaker 1: was in the middle of saying yeah we can, I

634
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Speaker 1: was like, you know, we can't.

635
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Speaker 5: Those days are gone, and I.

636
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Speaker 2: Was And then I had this moment where I was like,

637
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Speaker 2: if someone had ha told me before we had a baby,

638
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Speaker 2: you're not going to be able to watch TV in

639
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Speaker 2: the aft, No, not a Saturday, would I still have

640
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Speaker 2: had a child? I mean, I mean that quite seriously. Like,

641
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Speaker 2: I mean that quite seriously.

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Speaker 6: I feel like that I think you still would have

643
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Speaker 6: if the choice was your child and TV in the afternoon.

644
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Speaker 5: I think you're choosing your baby.

645
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Speaker 1: Think so, But I think i'd also, well, I don't know,

646
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Speaker 1: but I think I think.

647
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Speaker 5: I don't think it was such a big TV fan.

648
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Speaker 1: We watched the whole season.

649
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Speaker 2: We watched the whole season The Girls that amazing. That

650
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Speaker 2: is like to finish an episode because I was in it.

651
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Speaker 2: When you have kids watching TV, is hey let's let's

652
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Speaker 2: get an episode in before we got a bed.

653
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Speaker 6: And you're so tired you fall asleep halfway through the

654
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Speaker 6: episode because you've had such.

655
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Speaker 5: A busy to show.

656
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Speaker 2: You've got two or three shows that you've started. You know,

657
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Speaker 2: it's just it's it's a mess. We sat down and

658
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Speaker 2: we're like, let's watch the whole of shrinking and I

659
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Speaker 2: was like, you know, let's do it.

660
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Speaker 1: And they delivered food to the room.

661
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Speaker 2: But again, the point was, I didn't realize that that

662
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Speaker 2: was something I was going to lose when I became a.

663
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Speaker 1: Parent, Like, I had no idea.

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Speaker 2: And it was funny Tom and the reason I mentioned

665
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Speaker 2: Tom and he was like, oh, man, you know I

666
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Speaker 2: played what did you do? You played Zelda on Switch

667
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Speaker 2: for five hours or something.

668
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good four Our assessed on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: And that's just normal for you. That's just normal life.

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Speaker 1: But that's what we used to do. So we used

671
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Speaker 1: to do.

672
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Speaker 5: I had a really embarrassing example of this, So.

673
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Speaker 2: Sorry, before you go thirty one and six five, I

674
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: would love to hear maybe I have anything from single sorry,

675
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: from from people that have kids and people that haven't

676
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: got kids, because maybe a president hasn't got kids, and

677
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: you are aware of this, but certainly people that, certainly

678
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: parents thirty one of six.

679
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: Five What do people that don't have kids take for granted?

680
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: What do they? What do they what?

681
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: They don't know how good it is that they've still

682
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: got that thing?

683
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 13: What?

684
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: What? What does a child take away from you that's

685
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: not obvious. I mean we all hear.

686
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: About the you know, the sleep and the sicknesses from daycare,

687
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: and yeah, of course, but it's the little things so

688
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: that you're missed.

689
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 5: This is a really embarrassing example.

690
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 6: So I was away on the weekend and I just

691
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 6: I got up in the morning. This will sounds so insignificant,

692
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 6: and I went for a run and I didn't have

693
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 6: to think about how far I was running or how

694
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 6: long it would take me, because it was I finished

695
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 6: my run and I was like, oh my god, I

696
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 6: can I can kind of just walk around and I'm

697
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 6: gonna look for a coffee for a while, and it

698
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 6: just doesn't matter what time.

699
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: The first question that you get asked when you go

700
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: to exercise is how long you're going to be?

701
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a class that I want to go to. Yeah.

702
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: The funny the way you framed that story to me

703
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: was we'll I explained my story to you, and you

704
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: were like, I went for a run on the weekend

705
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: and I didn't even think about when I had to

706
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: come back. And I was like, oh, that sounds awful,

707
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: and you're like it was brilliant.

708
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: It was awesome for four hours.

709
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 6: Anastasia here thirty one or six.

710
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 5: I have Anastasia.

711
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 7: My kids don't let me pee by myself.

712
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, so true.

713
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: When you're won on one, yeah, you know another one there,

714
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: I mean, like even more basic Anastasia is just I

715
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: don't know about your kids, but just leaving it. We

716
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: can't leave toilet rolls on the toil roll dispenser anymore

717
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: because that's just a max take parade.

718
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the most cat ever.

719
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: She just gets to pull this every time you're walk

720
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: into the bathroom and you've left it.

721
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 6: You know, Remy is very very youngster, so very small.

722
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 6: So my solution that was otherwise, just take it to

723
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 6: the toilet and wear and carry her, right.

724
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: But you hold her while you're pissed.

725
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, but she's got.

726
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 6: Longer now, She's got she's got longer now though, So

727
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 6: I do only happen a couple of times pro stop.

728
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 5: But she can now kick stream. And it was always like,

729
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 5: I'm effectively weaning on my daughters. It's not right, Let's

730
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 5: go to Sophie. So you can relate to this.

731
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 7: All of it's ticking all of the boxes in my

732
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 7: life right now. But most importantly, you know, people invite

733
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 7: you around for dinner and say, hey, can you come

734
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 7: around for dinner at seven or we'll go out. They

735
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 7: don't realize that the tiny humans dictating our whole day

736
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 7: fair and they make themwhere you can't just.

737
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's Sophie.

738
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: The frustrating is that when people like particularly I'm just

739
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: going to say older parents, older people slash parents like

740
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: it's almost like they forget that, you know, when your

741
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: mom and dad go to you, Oh, do do you

742
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: guys want to come around for dinner at seven o'clock?

743
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: And you go, well, yeah, we'll love to, but it

744
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: needs to sleep. And she hasn't got a bed at

745
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: your house. You've had four children. When did you forget that?

746
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: Like?

747
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: How do they how is that being forgotten?

748
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 6: I think they do know, they do remember that I

749
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 6: don't want you to come for dinner, So they always

750
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 6: chugging at seven o'clock.

751
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: Well, they don't want to come to your house.

752
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I's go to Sam now on thirty one and

753
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Speaker 6: sixty five.

754
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Speaker 5: Sam, you can relate to this as well.

755
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, certainly, Ken after three kids who are now in

756
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 10: their teenage years, you never finish a conversation, who are

757
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 10: interrupted and to have a conversation, or you go on

758
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 10: the phone and all of a sudden someone wants something

759
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 10: or you have to get something, or the baby crush.

760
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's actually hard on to get frustrated in that

761
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 6: situation because I'll be having a conversation with mim and

762
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 6: like it's quite an important conversation, but then naturally Remy

763
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 6: does something or need something, and like if you if

764
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 6: you were making like a very good point that was

765
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 6: very important. It's quite frustrating that because then they come back.

766
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 6: It's not their fault, but it's it's really hard to

767
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 6: get like a continuity of a chat.

768
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Speaker 2: Do you know we're just thinking what Sam was saying.

769
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: Then I remember because obviously this is back in the day,

770
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 2: but when there were landlines, my mum was always so

771
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: precious around like I'm going to go and make a

772
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 2: phone call in the front room.

773
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: In like piss off.

774
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: Oh, and so you know that the people that were

775
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: there for the announcement of mums on the phone would

776
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: be aware of this, right, and so like people, where's mommy,

777
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 2: she's on the phone's on the phone. But the great

778
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: news was there was always a land line upstairs. So

779
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: if someone missed the chat. The best thing in the

780
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: world was when someone picked up the phone upstairs to

781
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: make a phone call, interrupt her and you just hear

782
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: it down the other end goes get off.

783
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 5: If I could have one.

784
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 2: Thing back from that time, it would be a separate

785
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 2: mobile which could interrupt my mum's Yeah on now Sam's

786
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: mobile while she was on the phone, because those moments.

787
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 6: Were amazing and it was a prey defends.

788
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 5: Your I didn't know.

789
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: Angela's calling thirty one or six five? Angela? What did

790
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: non apparents take for granted.

791
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 4: Him hot chip?

792
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 13: Your own hot chips that you take.

793
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: Away right now? Though visited it's will do we need.

794
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: Heal?

795
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: Did? I did? Alrighty?

796
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: So this one's kind of something that I think that

797
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 2: everybody can relate to, whether or not you've got issues

798
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: with your mental health or not.

799
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: But either then in a.

800
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: Great space recently personally and.

801
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 5: I haven't or have have not, and it's it all.

802
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: It's I'm killing it.

803
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 6: At the moment, I was like, yes, man, I go

804
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 6: to draving.

805
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: I No, I haven't been if I'm really honest.

806
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: And I think that's kind of the trick with it

807
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: a little bit, is that there is a degree of

808
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: honesty with yourself that comes with this, and I think

809
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: that's where all the problems stem from as well, is

810
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: where people aren't honest with how they're going and they're

811
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: not good at checking in with themselves or accepting that

812
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: there's something going on. And I thought about this a

813
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 2: bit more because often it takes me a few days

814
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: for somebody to tell me, hey.

815
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: I don't think you're doing all that well at the moment.

816
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 2: And that was actually Sam, my partner this morning, who's

817
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: sort of flagged it with me, and it made me think, oh, geez,

818
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: I wish I could.

819
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: I wish I could get onto this quicker.

820
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: And that's always the case because if you ignore it,

821
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: or if you if you go along as if everything's okay,

822
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: that's when it gets bigger on you. And that's when

823
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: it actually starts getting really slippery, because if you if you.

824
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: Ignore trauma or you kind of constantly.

825
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: Pushing past it, then you create a real dragon out

826
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: of it because you're avoiding it.

827
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: You're avoiding it, it gets worse, it gets worse, it gets worse.

828
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: So that's one side of it.

829
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: And the other side of it, though, is if you're

830
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: constantly looking, oh my god, I don't think I'm okay.

831
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't think I'm okay, then that

832
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: in itself can create what psychologists call ruminating, which means

833
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 2: you're thinking about it too much.

834
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: And then that's also a way to create a dragon. Right,

835
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: So it's this constant push and pull.

836
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: I think anyway between are you accepting what's going on

837
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: or are you ruminating? Versus are you can you just

838
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: push past it?

839
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: Or are you ignoring it?

840
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: So there's kind of like two sides of the spectrum.

841
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: And as it is with everything in psychology, I imagine

842
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm a psychologist, but it's all it's for courses, you know,

843
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: it's learning to either process your trauma or not to.

844
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: Make mountains out of molehills.

845
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: And I understand that that's a real quandary for a

846
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: lot of people. But I think that's why we've got

847
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 2: so many issues with mental health is because I don't

848
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: think people are practiced at actually thinking or looking at

849
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: what's going on with themselves, and hence they've got a

850
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: process that they use constantly which is broken, which means

851
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: they end up in a bad place.

852
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 6: It's distraction. We're just the way we live our lives

853
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 6: is full of distraction. You never really have to deal

854
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 6: with your thoughts if you don't want to. That's right,

855
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 6: I phone in your pocket, that's you can bury yourself

856
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 6: in word or vice versa.

857
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: We all know those people who, as I said, can

858
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: make mountains out of molehills, and so it's kind of

859
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: a you know, both sides of the equation sort of

860
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: fall off into a bad place. So I was thinking

861
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: about this and I was like, jeez, that's a really

862
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 2: you know to hear that. Jeez, there's no simple solution

863
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: for this can scare a lot of people. And it

864
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: sort of took me back to when Woods, you and

865
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: I would doing talks for RUOKDA, and I remember one

866
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: of the questions that I got asked at a few

867
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: different places was, hey, what do we do when the

868
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: cupcakes go away?

869
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 5: Cupcakes?

870
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: Well, sorry, food, food, what's that.

871
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 12: Is?

872
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 6: That a psychological term.

873
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: What is a cupcakes on a metaphor?

874
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 2: On ruokda, they deliver cupcakes. And it literally got asked

875
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: to me three different places, what.

876
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: Do we do when the cupcakes go away? Like how

877
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: do we.

878
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: Try and stay on top of this? Because we've all

879
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: got our own demons? And my answer is kind of

880
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 2: what I'll say now, And I think this is really

881
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: the where all of this has to start for everyone

882
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: listening right now, whether you have issues with your mental

883
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: health or maybe you're just a bit grumpy today, what

884
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 2: is the check in process that you have with yourself?

885
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: And as you said, there's always a good way to

886
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: distract yourself. There's always a good way to go and

887
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: do something else, and it's often the last thing that

888
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: you want to do.

889
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 5: And it's a bit scary, it is.

890
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 2: It takes guts to see down with yourself and go, hey,

891
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: how am I going? I can feel there's some sort

892
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: of unrest here. What's the solution to this? And not

893
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: immediately going oh, there is unrest there. I'm going to

894
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 2: go for a run, or I'm gonna have a drink,

895
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: or I'm going to play a video game and actually

896
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: sit with it for a second and actually look under

897
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 2: the hood and go, what is it that I want?

898
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: What is it that I'm afraid of? And that's why

899
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: people pay psychologists, it's why people play therapists to unpack

900
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: those things for them, because it's a really tricky thing

901
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: to do. So if that's not something that you can

902
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: do comfortably, I wanted to take you back to what

903
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: happened to me this morning, which is sem telling me, Hey,

904
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: you're not stopping and accepting the fact that there's something

905
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: going on with you.

906
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: How can I help?

907
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: And so my tidbit today is is there someone in

908
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: your life that you can put the power in their

909
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: hands ends to actively ask you or actively maybe not

910
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: even ask you, go one step further, actively tell you

911
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: that you're not yourself, because I think that takes away

912
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: all the fear of doing yourself. And I also think

913
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: that that we're so quick to be really scary when

914
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: people tell us that something's going on.

915
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: We're like, oh no, I don't tell me that. You know,

916
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: it's like when your.

917
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: Partners, for example, I imagine this is what it's like for

918
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: women when they've got their period and you go, you know,

919
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: the worst thing you want to say is have you

920
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: got your period, because they.

921
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: Might just be up, they might just be upset with you.

922
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: But ultimately that's actually a really good conversation for me

923
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: to have. I've had this chat with samways it's like, Hey,

924
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: I'd love.

925
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: To know when you know it's around, because then I'm

926
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 2: not thinking that you're that's just what you're being like totally.

927
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: And I think that that's a really good touch point

928
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: for people who have got issues to their mental health

929
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: as well, to actively say to the person around them

930
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: maybe when they're not going through something, hey, can you

931
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: tell me when you think something's.

932
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: Up, because that's a really good flag for me to.

933
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: Then take some steps so that I don't carry on

934
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: beating down the path of destruction.

935
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: That I'm on.

936
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you've got someone in your life that

937
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 2: can do that for you, I'd highly recommend that.

938
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 5: And have the chat when they're not in the dark patch.

939
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 6: I would suggest as well have that conversation just as

940
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 6: you're saying, where it's like, hey, going forward, when one

941
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 6: of us is maybe going through a bit of a

942
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 6: tough patch, let's really try to be that person to

943
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 6: identify that and be really open about it. And you know,

944
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 6: you sort of in a way you're kind of ready

945
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 6: yourself for it. Then it's probably still going to be

946
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 6: a pretty tough chat when you're in it, but at

947
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 6: least if you've you know, armed yourself a little bit,

948
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 6: like this is a process, we're going to try it.

949
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 6: Long term wise, it will definitely help.

950
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. That's what we call a cupcake in the.

951
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: Nice cheeky cupcake.

952
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 10: Gan