1
00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:03,280
Speaker 1: Tournament of that.

2
00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,360
Speaker 2: Put on your dance and shift.

3
00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,120
Speaker 1: I've give me your beast shot.

4
00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,799
Speaker 3: That's Debonie Taata of the Daily Oauz.

5
00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,080
Speaker 4: Emma Gillespie is here morning. How are we very well?

6
00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,640
Speaker 2: So I've been reading and hearing about the writer's strike,

7
00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,280
Speaker 2: which is now morphed into an actors strike as well.

8
00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,279
Speaker 1: That's right, the actors are officially on strike in Hollywood.

9
00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,360
Speaker 1: You might have seen some videos come out Friday morning

10
00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,880
Speaker 1: of the red carpet premiere of Oppenheimer. Now everyone's really

11
00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,040
Speaker 1: excited about this movie, Christopher.

12
00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,800
Speaker 4: Nolan, big budget movie.

13
00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,879
Speaker 1: But Matt Damon, Emily Blunt, all the stars on the

14
00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,800
Speaker 1: Red carpet at the exact same time sort of rounded

15
00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,680
Speaker 1: each other up.

16
00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,479
Speaker 4: And they left. They ditched the premiere.

17
00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,760
Speaker 1: And that's because in La, at the exact same time,

18
00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,840
Speaker 1: the SAG after a union, which is the Screen Actors

19
00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,440
Speaker 1: Guild union that represents one hundred and sixty thousand US

20
00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,640
Speaker 1: and Hollywood actors, declared that they were on strike.

21
00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,520
Speaker 4: And so it's tool down, get out of here, go

22
00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,360
Speaker 4: and fight the good fight.

23
00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:03,880
Speaker 3: And what are they striking for?

24
00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,640
Speaker 1: So the strike is largely around two main things, the

25
00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,840
Speaker 1: biggest things that have happened to kind of TV and

26
00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,160
Speaker 1: film in the last decade, streaming and AI the writer's

27
00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,800
Speaker 1: strike you've probably heard of, as Amanda mentioned, that started

28
00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,080
Speaker 1: back in May, and it's all to do with the

29
00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,240
Speaker 1: same stuff. So actors are basically saying that since the

30
00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,399
Speaker 1: advent of streaming, the way that they make money has

31
00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,920
Speaker 1: completely shifted and there are no protections in place to

32
00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,080
Speaker 1: guarantee their incomes. So think of like a Friends or

33
00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,440
Speaker 1: a Seinfeld. Those actors were working on network television series

34
00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,360
Speaker 1: twenty two episodes a year, They were working thirty weeks

35
00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,560
Speaker 1: of the year, and they were in the weeks that

36
00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,400
Speaker 1: they weren't working, making a lot of money off residuals

37
00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,440
Speaker 1: from the shows being broadcast on TV stations.

38
00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:51,840
Speaker 4: Now that still happens.

39
00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,960
Speaker 1: Those actors, the cast of Friends still make about twenty million.

40
00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,080
Speaker 4: Dollars a year alone off residual really.

41
00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,240
Speaker 2: But those contracts don't exist today.

42
00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,000
Speaker 4: Exactly, so contracts for streaming.

43
00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,120
Speaker 1: Because it was such a sort of unknown landscape when

44
00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,119
Speaker 1: it dawned, those actors ended up being on a sort

45
00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,399
Speaker 1: of a union contract.

46
00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,600
Speaker 4: That's more to do with YouTube short films.

47
00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,160
Speaker 1: It was never really built for what streaming became, so

48
00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,480
Speaker 1: actors on shows like Orange Is the New Black or

49
00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,240
Speaker 1: House of Cards. They were the big Netflix originals that

50
00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,960
Speaker 1: kind of really began to change the game. Those actors

51
00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,600
Speaker 1: make like twenty thirty bucks a year on residuals for

52
00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,160
Speaker 1: shows that were arguably just as big at that time.

53
00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,320
Speaker 2: And that's the same thing with the writers. And the

54
00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,560
Speaker 2: reason we have reality television pretty much is because the

55
00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,880
Speaker 2: writers strike from a number of years ago. Is that right?

56
00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,880
Speaker 1: So the prediction is certainly that reality television will ramp

57
00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:47,799
Speaker 1: up even.

58
00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,040
Speaker 2: More because it doesn't have actors writers exactly.

59
00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,919
Speaker 1: The other thing is Australian production is not directly affected,

60
00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,560
Speaker 1: but Australian actors like Margot Robbie who were in the

61
00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:58,359
Speaker 1: SAG union.

62
00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,560
Speaker 4: You know, the rules aren't work.

63
00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,200
Speaker 1: You can't promote your films, you can't do you know,

64
00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,600
Speaker 1: red carpets and interviews, you can't do awards shows.

65
00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,959
Speaker 4: So you know, we could be looking.

66
00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,160
Speaker 1: At the next Emmys Oscars, all the likes of you know,

67
00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,480
Speaker 1: no one being in the room, no one there to

68
00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,480
Speaker 1: accept the awards.

69
00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,600
Speaker 2: And how does AI come into play here?

70
00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,160
Speaker 1: So the artificial intelligence angle of this really has more

71
00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,040
Speaker 1: to do with the cohort of the industry that we

72
00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,560
Speaker 1: would know as extras. They're called background actors. And I

73
00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,839
Speaker 1: think it's an important point. You know, yeah, sure, Matt

74
00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,920
Speaker 1: Damon's not going to work for a little while, He'll

75
00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,680
Speaker 1: be fine. This is more about the you know, tens

76
00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,880
Speaker 1: of thousands of actors in the union who might be

77
00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, on the fringes.

78
00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,040
Speaker 4: These background actors.

79
00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,360
Speaker 1: Production companies have suggested that they get paid for one

80
00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,000
Speaker 1: day of work, and then those production companies so you know, Netflix, Paramount,

81
00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,400
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers, these types, they'll own their likeness in perpetuity,

82
00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,280
Speaker 1: and they can use their likeness through AI technology in

83
00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, god knows what kind of scenes and what

84
00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,560
Speaker 1: kind of films until forever.

85
00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,040
Speaker 2: And you're paid for one day, exact, your face will

86
00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,480
Speaker 2: be used forever.

87
00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,960
Speaker 1: Which basically wipes out that whole section of the industry,

88
00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,320
Speaker 1: which is a massive.

89
00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,640
Speaker 3: An actor then you know it, you know, and being

90
00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,920
Speaker 3: an actor is not it's for every brad Pit. There's

91
00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,320
Speaker 3: a billion other brad pits that could have got there

92
00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,760
Speaker 3: that never got there exactly.

93
00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,640
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously the way that the streaming services

94
00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,960
Speaker 1: make money is a little bit different to traditional cable

95
00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,000
Speaker 1: network TV, but it's still a two billion dollar industry.

96
00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,120
Speaker 1: They're still paying their CEOs between twenty and two hundred million.

97
00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,960
Speaker 4: US per year.

98
00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,640
Speaker 1: And this is sort of what the SAG president, Fran Dresser, Yes,

99
00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,520
Speaker 1: that Fan Dresser has been saying. You know that the

100
00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,640
Speaker 1: people that they have been in business for and with

101
00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,960
Speaker 1: for decades and who they make money for, can treat them,

102
00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, in this way and be so unwilling to

103
00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,920
Speaker 1: come to the table to talk about a conversation.

104
00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,960
Speaker 3: Anyone can do it. It's Jesha I remember she negotiated

105
00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,240
Speaker 3: that pay rise for mister sef.

106
00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,800
Speaker 2: There'll be a giant shortfall of what we watch.

107
00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,240
Speaker 1: Yes, so this is the other thing that it will

108
00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,000
Speaker 1: probably impact, you know, not immediate short term impact what

109
00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,839
Speaker 1: we see, but you know, in the months to come,

110
00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,240
Speaker 1: in the year to come, you'll probably notice a slimmed

111
00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,839
Speaker 1: down sort of slate of exciting new films and shows.

112
00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,800
Speaker 2: What's that show that Daryl Summers did where it was

113
00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,000
Speaker 2: filmed on a slant that might come back, Brendan was that?

114
00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,480
Speaker 2: Wasn't there one that was on a slang?

115
00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,200
Speaker 3: You were in it, you're back in the room.

116
00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,360
Speaker 2: There was one that was filmed. It might have been

117
00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:41,680
Speaker 2: Grant Danu who hosted it. We missed that you had

118
00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,360
Speaker 2: to act out a scene on an angle.

119
00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,920
Speaker 4: That's yes, I actually.

120
00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:48,600
Speaker 2: Bring it back.

121
00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,479
Speaker 3: Well, bring that they think that was another show.

122
00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,479
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.

123
00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,920
Speaker 3: Check her out at the Daily Os