1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Hello, Christian O'Connell show podcast warning us to Christian O'Connell 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: show on Gold. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: We're very excited. Last week on the show, we started 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: talking about this and about Kirk Cobain's guitar that he 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: played on the legendary live performance of MTV Unplugged back 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety three sold for auction last week. Might 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: I've read about this made news all over the world 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: for cool eight point eight Australian million dollars. It's amazing. 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: I was looking back at some of the other rock 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: and roll memorabilia that's been sold over the years. John 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: lennon Steinway piano was sold for four million to George 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 2: Michael Really yeah, wrote songs on it. Yeah, Bob Dylan's 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: handwritten lyrics, Oh, this would be amazing, one of the 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: best breakup songs ever. Like a Rolling Stone that went 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: for four and a half million as well. Jimmy Hendrix 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: Woodstock stratocaster guitar, one of most famous guitars and rock 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: and roll history, Like Kurk Cobain's MTV one that also 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: went for four million. John Lennon's handwritten lyrics. This is amazing. 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: Just look at the photo of this you see all 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: the little crossings out where he obviously came up with 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: a better world or phrasing for a day in the life. 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: One of the most amazing songs that went for just 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 2: under three million Jimmy Hend's guitars again, John Lennon lyrics, 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: Eric Clapton guitars. But then I think this is the 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: new world record, it's a new high and it's owned 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: by an Australian guy. It's on the line now live 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: in La Peter Friedman, welcome to the show. Finally, Yes, sir, Hey, Christian, Hey, listen. 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: I'm so glad we got to talk because it's just amazing. 29 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: What's the great thing about it is isn't just the 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: huge amount it's gone for. It's the fact that people 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: still care about that amazing performance because it is one 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: of the most amazing musical performances ever. And I'm great 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: that it's gone to. I feel really glad that it's 34 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: gone to someone who really appreciates live music and rock 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: and roll, what it means to us, and the fact 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: that you want to your guitar ratherin sometimes when collectors 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: buy things, it just gets locked away. We don't get 38 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: to have see it or enjoy it again. But you've 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: got big plans for it. So what are you going 40 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: to do with it? Now you own it? Yeah? 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: Man, I mean my family has been in the music 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: game in theater since before I was born. My dad 43 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: London in the fifties, Moms a sweep when over there, 44 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: and I was born in sweat and then came here 45 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: in sixty or came Australian sixty seven. I sorry, sixty six, 46 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: and so all I know is the music game and 47 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: it has fed me and clothed me and house everything. 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: So if I don't give back now that lucky me 49 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: I made a candid, I'd be what a kind of 50 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: human being would I do? I got more than I'd 51 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: ever need, and I'm going to give it all away. 52 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: Well good on you. So tell me why this guitar? 53 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: Because every year there's always a. 54 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: Basic quite a few things. Yeah, I do quite a 55 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: few things in the charity, et cetera. But I'm trying 56 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: to work out our way. The current thing with the 57 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: crisis in the music and arts industry, it's insane. It's 58 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: hit people like nothing else. There's no money for anything, food, 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: people sleeping on mh floors, there's no medical insurance, mental 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: health support, nothing and it is super crisis. You know, 61 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: people only hanging in by friends, who stacking shelves in supermarkets. 62 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: This can't happen. We all want to listen to the gigs, 63 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: we all want to go to concerts, allies, theater. Now 64 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: is the time to pony up and treat people with 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: the same respect as you would for anybody working in 66 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: a factory or whatever. And right now they're not going 67 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: to where's your slip? And you who are you? No insurance? 68 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: No not, I'm going to change it. And man, the 69 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: output worldwide going, yeah, we're on from top musicians you know, well, 70 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: touring promos everybody. I wasn't hoping I wasn't bring it 71 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: be this biggest thing, but it has so good. 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: Using all the music and power you've got. The attentions 73 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: going to highlight this because you're right. You think about 74 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: music and how it actually makes our lives better, and 75 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: when you see it, all the news is written off 76 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: under arts as if it's some kind of less important 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: thing to the quality of our lives. But it's such 78 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: an important thing. But big part of the enjoyment of 79 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: our life is live music and listening to music and 80 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: new music being encouraged and developed it. You're right, it's 81 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: a crisis point. I don't think we know that. 82 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Well. And you know, like you said, without art, there's 83 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: no life. You know, it represents all the culture, all 84 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: the things in your memory the past hundreds of years. 85 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: I think back, like with Bravana, I was doing as 86 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: tough as I said. So they're bittersweet songs, but when 87 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: I hear them, okay, I'm transported back to that sad time. 88 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: But they're Maine. It's the poetry and any other stuff 89 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: I remember from the seventies being an Ali Blake. It 90 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: brings me back there as well. But I wasn't so 91 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: that ugly and had a bit of hair. But there's 92 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: some awesome stuff. It's what separates from It's true, isn't it. 93 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: You wouldn't want it, You couldn't live without it, and 94 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: you couldn't live without yes, but we're not making it 95 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: seriously to. 96 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: Tell me this, Peter, Why this bit of rock and 97 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: roll history? Why that Kirk Kaben guitar from the MTV Unplug. 98 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Christian, I don't know maybe the billion people since yesterday 99 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: who's found out that, and in every media outlet in 100 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: the world. I think that's pretty good value. I think 101 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: I got about a billion dollars worth of marketing value 102 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: for this foundation out of it twenty four hours. It's 103 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 1: pretty good. And I'm a pretty good marketer. 104 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: But did you go for more than I thought you were? 105 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: Did you go for more than your Yeah? 106 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: Man, I was dying. I was freaking out. I was 107 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: shaking and feeling ill. And they probably couldn't see it, 108 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, because it went beyond what I thought I 109 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: would get it for in seconds, because there's some rich 110 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: people here and then you know, I'm thinking, now i 111 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: gotta have it. And so when it's like I've got 112 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: just some monster cut blows, you know where the guy goes, 113 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: oh this much, I went right like a million dores 114 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: and that kind of fighting people a little a little bit, 115 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: but you know. 116 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: And this is all online? Is this all online that 117 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: you're doing? 118 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: I went there. I went there, I mean in Beverly Hill, 119 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills, but a lot of people world wide, 120 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: it's like the big screens they were we all have Japan, 121 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: you know, England and Germany. 122 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: Hand in the air with like a bit of paper going. 123 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: I got a little. 124 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: Paddle, mate, I got a little paddle number three seventy 125 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: five with my paddle, and I've. 126 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: Kept its p But now you get a guitar. 127 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, my ye, I'm shaken. And and then so we 128 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: went up. I bought a mill and I went in 129 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: that bug of that five million. And then and I 130 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: think in the maniac they think this is not gonna stop, right. 131 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: And in fact, one of those guys who is insane, billionaire, 132 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: multi multi, multi, all that came drove down. They got 133 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: to meet this guy made me the bridesmaikers. I'm never 134 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: the bridesmaid. I got it. But I would have gone 135 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: to twenty thirty. I would have done anything. I don't 136 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: give you, would have. 137 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: Gone to twenty or thirty million. That's phenomenal. 138 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, in the scheme of things even more, 139 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: what it's not the money, it's not the course of guitars. 140 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: Especially I met the guy yesterday who sold it to 141 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: five and nineties. So it's a nice guitar, But it's 142 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: symbolic nature of it. That's what's resonating with everybody. What's 143 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: that worth? And if I can change even a little 144 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: bit for the arts, what's that worth? If I handed 145 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: out twenty million for food support. How many seconds do 146 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: you think it works all wide? Not very long, not 147 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: very long at all? Go on forever? 148 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: Where is it now? Where are you keeping it? Not 149 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: under the bed where. 150 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm going you it's an hill. I've got mate bringing me. 151 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: Can I can I look at it? Gain? No? I 152 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: don't want to be shot any man. I mean it's 153 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: in a bolt air condition community control. 154 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: Have you played? 155 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't play. Didn't you didn't you see there? 156 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: Me holding it upside down? What an idiot? 157 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: And so so you plan to tour it when you 158 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: when you tak it, You've got a Brittingley studio. I loved. 159 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: I'd love to see it, yeah man, yeah, and we'll 160 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: have people play it. I'm just talking, you know, of course, 161 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: the Cobaining family and Isaiah's o Torport. You know, I 162 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: want to get down to a new degree about you know. 163 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: Rob's going to set it up again. The strings original obviously, 164 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: I'll keep all that, but instruments to be played, and 165 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: the strata areas violin will has to be played. It 166 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: turned a rubbish and serve as this guitar and I 167 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: don't it haven't been done for a long time. So 168 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 1: it's going to be used, man, used, It's no any 169 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 1: more than any other precious instrument, and the value shouldn't 170 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: mean anything. It's irrelevant. 171 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: Well, good on you for our highlight. 172 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm to sell them at the end too. You know 173 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: that all the money is going to go to this foundation, 174 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: and then I'm going to sell the guitar plus a 175 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: whole lot of other stuff that I have to keep 176 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: this an ongoing thing. So we are lobbying all the 177 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: time because you know the old thing, you know, wine 178 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: and wine. You know, if we can make five out 179 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: of it. So we've get a thousand people joining together, 180 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: everybody will know over the world either governments are going 181 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: to listen and they want to they want to help. 182 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: They don't know how to do it. 183 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: Great, I get the thing when you say you've got 184 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: some other stuff as well. It's like the pull room 185 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: and the Kragan family in the castle and that. 186 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: Well, sometimes I feel, yeah, well you know what, Aman, 187 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: the dreaming is so much better than the owning. And 188 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: when I look at I came downstairs my apartment and 189 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: see that a little at all this stuff. Again, Nah, 190 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: you're you're the temporary custadian of it. But what are 191 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: you doing. Get it out and shot to other people 192 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: so kids can see it. I feel stupid. 193 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 2: Well listen lovely to chat to you. Good look what 194 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: you're doing with it as well. Thanks Peter, hopefully well 195 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: see you in the studio. 196 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: You will catch up. Christian, Hello, good money. Christian O'Connell 197 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: Show podcast