1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: I guess the burning question everyone wants to know, how 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: is the growth on your dick? Did you get that 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: sorted out? Yes? I have good. Good because there was 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: a rash down there for a while, I said, I 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: said to you, didn't I say, go get a cream 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: for that. You can't just keep walking around with one 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: ball out your shorts. And then undering further inspection, we 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: found out there was a little growth on your cash 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: and prizes. That's how we're starting this. Yeah, this week's 10 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: out and I'm not editing that out. Have you been well? 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, much better now. 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, don't worry. Beers are on the way. 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope. 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: So, Yeah, we're not too far. It's nearly midday. The 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: wonderful world of cars, haven't we been? It has been 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: very busy. I think the car world is very quickly 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: moving to EV's. I think we're seeing a whole lot 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: of that. It's crazy, isn't it. Did you predict this? No? 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: I think a few years ago when everyone said, oh 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: EV's are coming, Everyone's like eventually, but. 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: Not this fast. Now everyone's talking EV's. 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: We actually had a story that kind of this is 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: the context to it that Ev Council released some sales 24 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: figures from Tesla. 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: God, is there an EV council that reminds me of 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: something you'd be on? Leave your bloody eight pocket river shirt. 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: As an engineer, I'd like to say, as part of 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: the EV Council, well speak up, tell me what do 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: you can change? 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think i'd be allowed on the EV 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: Council because I sometimes called out bullshit EV stuff and 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: they're like, no, I'm not allowed to say bad things. 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: It's only good things about EV's and I'm like. 34 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: Well some is pretty shit. 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: So but they released some Tesla sales figures and the 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: claim was that they sold a little over fifteen thousand 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: model threes last. 38 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: Year, and I was one of them the year before. 39 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: There we go. So what you know how last week 40 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you this. You know how 41 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: last week you set the challenge of me test driving 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: a shiny Yes, right, I was tempted to cheat the system. 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: I could have gone Volvo yes, technically yes, but I 44 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: was tempted to cheat the system, and maybe I could 45 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: have gone Tesla. 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: Yes. Well, my my Tesla is US built. So how 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: do you know that? 48 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: Because I know where it was built how it wasn't. 49 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't an Australasian build. No, it directly from really 50 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: from the US. I would have preferred the Stuttgart build 51 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: of Tesla because they are built. 52 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: Over there, right Well, No, Berlin. 53 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: Same Schnitzel, Jesus Christ, Why do you always correct? 54 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: Anyway, So Tesla they claimed the fifteen thousand figure, and 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 3: it turns out they accidentally added the year before and 56 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: last year together, so it wasn't fifteen thousand, it was 57 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 3: twelve thousand, which is still a big number. And that 58 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: meant that just the Model three outsold all of Lexus, 59 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: all of Scota, all of land Rover, all of Jaguar, 60 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: so just in one model. So I think evs are 61 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: coming fast. But let's see, because I think a lot 62 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: of the sales that came through that Model three with 63 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: the entry level car, which is fifty nine thousand. At 64 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 3: fifty nine thousand, it's actually very cheap and a very 65 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: good deal. They get less and less appealing as they 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 3: get more expensive, which is where a whole lot of 67 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: them are at the moment. So I think we'll see 68 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: a proper flood of them once they are cheaper, and 69 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: we see the thirty thirty five thousand dollars EV. I 70 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: think that's where it will really sort of pick up. 71 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, MG are doing an EV for what 72 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: about forty three. 73 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: Yep BYD is apparently coming. They keep saying they're coming. 74 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: But you know, one thing we're talking about this off air, 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: the progression and evolution of evs seem to be so quick, 76 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: to the point that if if you buy now in 77 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: a couple of years, it's going to look a bit obsolete, 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 79 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my concern, especially with my Tesla for example, 80 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: what are. 81 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: We up to now? Four minutes in and seven mentions? 82 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: All right? 83 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: My concern is that, yeah, in three or four years time, 84 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: if you have an EV that'll do eight hundred kilometers, 85 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: who's going to buy my car secondhand that does four 86 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: hundred exactly. 87 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: So that's my warning here. 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: If you're going to go buy an EV and spend 89 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: mega dollars on it, it's going to be, just like 90 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: any new technology, that will be obsolete and probably worth 91 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: not very much very quickly. 92 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: I wonder how they're going to do that. Like you 93 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: look at the Porsche tie Can and you go, what 94 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: is it like say two hundred and thirty k for 95 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: the turbo. We were talking about a couple of EPs back, right, 96 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: and that has arranged roughly of about four for twenty kilometers. Right. 97 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: So if you were to buy one today, walk that 98 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: out of the showroom in three years time, that car 99 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: is going to look a bit. Really, it's going to 100 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: look a bit hundred kilometers really. I mean theoretically it 101 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't make too much of a difference with charging stations 102 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: kind of coming up in the exactly a few years. 103 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: But I mean they're starting to release concepts of you know, 104 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: that Mercedes that was one thousand kilometers or something on 105 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: the clock, but the progression is so quick, yeap. 106 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: And that's the thing. 107 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: I don't know that anyone really needs one thousand kilometers 108 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 3: of driving range in an EV I mean, if you 109 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: travel a lot and interstate fair enough, that makes sense. 110 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: But to me, I wouldn't necessarily spend an extra thirty 111 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: grand to travel a thousand kilometers because I don't think 112 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: you would need it. I would end up just doing 113 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: the same thing where I'd let it run empty and 114 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 3: then I'd feel it. It's no different whether it's four 115 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: hundred or two hundred or a thousand, I would still 116 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 3: do the same thing. 117 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: So if you have ready. 118 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: Access to charge it, it doesn't really make that big 119 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: of a difference to me. 120 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: And I think most times in the next five ten 121 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: years are going to have charging stations any degree of 122 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: which can I mean effectively, you can do it now, 123 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: but you know in a couple of years time those 124 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: supercharge networks, you'll be able to affordably have one in 125 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: your own home. 126 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I look at our apartment building, for example. 127 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 3: We have one hundred and seventy five apartments in there, 128 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: and I'm on the. 129 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: Top floor, no doubt. And how sweet are we owners? Committee? 130 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: And yeah, the. 131 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: Driver, you're on the committee, you're on the what do 132 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: they call it, the strata? Got one of those decks. No, 133 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: your dog is not allowed in that building. I saw 134 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: it next to my tesla. 135 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: Actually joking. 136 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 3: There was a debate at the last meeting whether dogs 137 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: should be allowed on the podium unleashed. 138 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: What's the podium We've got. 139 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: Like an outdoor podium area, whether tennis court, Instagram caller, I. 140 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: Bet you have an actual podium for first, second, third, 141 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: and you just stand up on number one. 142 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: So I know in our building that We're now up 143 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 3: to four people with EVS, me included. 144 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: What EV's had. 145 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: I drive a Tesla. 146 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: That's number nine. We'll get up to ten. I get 147 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: to you're buying the first drink. So yeah, basically, the. 148 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: Progression of EVS in our building kind of reflects what's 149 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: happening in the market as well, so I think it 150 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: will just be a sign of it increasing over time slowly. 151 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get there. I've lost my spot because that 152 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: was just you were so boring. What are we going 153 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: to talk about now, oh, Ranger Raptor. 154 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: Yes, So this is a little complicated, right because right 155 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: now it is. 156 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: We won't say the exact date. I like to make 157 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: these podcasts sound timeless. 158 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: It's before the Ranger Raptor has been revealed, so some 159 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: of the stuff that I'm about to say may not 160 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: actually be correct, but this is what I well. 161 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: We know so far, and it's before launch at this point. 162 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: So what I do know is that it's powered by 163 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: a three liter twin turbo V six petrol engine, which 164 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: is awesome because we all thought it was just going 165 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: to get the V six diesel, but they have gone 166 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: whole hod here and gone with the turbo V six petrol. 167 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: That also probably means is gonna get launched in the 168 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: States with that exact engine as well, and it will 169 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: be a global for performance spec for that car. 170 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: But I did a development drive with Ford. 171 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: Probably six months ago now and we got to be 172 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: passengers in the Everest V six diesel, Ranger two liter 173 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: diesel and Ranger Raptor, and it was through the Victorian 174 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: high country and some of the stuff this car was 175 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: doing was insane, like it was climbing these mud covered 176 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: clay hills that I probably wouldn't even attempt in a 177 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: modified four wheel drive, and they were just sending it 178 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 3: and it is awesome. So front difflock, center difflock, rear difflock, 179 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: so you've got three differential locks on the car. So 180 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: it is a proper off road machine, full time Fabell drive, 181 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: but can go into two wheel drive for drift mode. 182 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: Sounds absolutely awesome, and the interior looks different enough to 183 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: the standard Ranger to get that sort of RAPTI vibe 184 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: to it. We don't know price or exact power and 185 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: talk outputs, but this will be expensive, I reckon The 186 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: current Ranger Raptor is around seventy six seventy seven grand 187 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: given they've just thrown the kitchen sink at this, I 188 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 3: reckon maybe eighty five ninety thousand. 189 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: Dollars with all that, Like it is properly kitted out. 190 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: And what you were saying about the interior, I feel like, 191 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: even though you know there's enough difference from the say 192 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: the standard Ranger, when you look at what the twenty 193 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: twenty two Ranger is adding at the moment, it's it's 194 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: kitted out. It's enough, you know what I mean. 195 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you've got proper recaro seats, you've got the 196 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: big sort of display in the center, raptor highlights inside 197 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: the cabin that the sort of paddle shifters. It actually 198 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: gets the same suspension as the fine fifty Raptor update 199 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 3: in the States. So that's with the I think it's 200 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 3: called live valve suspension, which is Fox racing suspension, but 201 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: it has adaptive damping, and it also has things like 202 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: a jump mode so that it can actually press the 203 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: suspension for full extension and then full jam, which is 204 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: that's cool, soo jounces where you get that full compression. 205 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: So the way that it deals with it impacting the body. 206 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: It's Paul going down to the Westfield Car Park. Check 207 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: come off full of thick car. Check it out, bro. 208 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: Jumps jounces, So yeah, it's it's going to be an 209 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: absolute beast and I cannot wait to drive this. 210 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: Are they bringing the F one fifty here? Look? 211 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: Probably not? No, The problem is at the moment one 212 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: looks good. 213 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 214 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: F one fifty in the States is you know, And 215 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: we discussed this in the LA Special. F one fifty 216 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: is a proper truck and they are at one hundred 217 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: percent capacity just for the States and left hand drive markets. 218 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: So for them to make it right hand drive, it 219 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: just makes no sense at all from an engineering standpoint. 220 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: So the only way. 221 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 3: They would do it is to bring it here and 222 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: convert it to right hand drive locally. Toyota appears to 223 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: be doing that with the Tundra, and I think if 224 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: Toyota does it, Ford will be forced to do it 225 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: as well. 226 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: We need to talk about Young Day's Ionic five real quick, 227 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: because I've got a feeling this is a case of 228 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: Paul going as an engineer. I told you so, guys, guys, 229 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: I told you yeah so. Look. 230 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 2: One of my main complaints with the five. 231 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: I thought it was a really great car, but one 232 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: of My main complaints was the body control, and where 233 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: we tested it at the proving ground it I've almost 234 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: left the ground at one hundred and thirty ks now, 235 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: which is the maximum speed you can do in Australia 236 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: on the sine waves. So when it gets to that point, 237 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 3: it shows that the car doesn't have a great deal 238 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 3: of body control, and to me that wasn't a good thing. 239 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: And for that reason I wouldn't buy one because a 240 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: lot of people do highway driving with family on board, 241 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: and if it doesn't feel comfortable or safe, you don't 242 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: want to want to buy one. So in this instance 243 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 3: I complained about it. Everyone else thought it was fantastic 244 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 3: and I thought, well. 245 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: Well that's not quite other people when we reviewed that. Now, 246 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: when we review this, I said, like, my main concern 247 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: with this car was it doesn't handle great, and it 248 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: just doesn't handle like, for instance, the normal commute. 249 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: Yep, okay, outside of you and one of my friends 250 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: who is actually a dynamics engineer at a car company, 251 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: who was. 252 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: Another engineering friend, yep, he thought it was shocking as well. 253 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: Everyone else thought it was great. 254 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: And the thing is with this Yonday has now come 255 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 3: out and said that there are some changes coming to 256 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: the Ionic five, including some different suspensions. So now they've 257 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: now introduced smart frequency dampers that are said to improve 258 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: the response of the front and rear suspension to increase 259 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: right comfort and improve body control. 260 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: So I told you so is where I was going 261 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: at with that. 262 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: He just wanted to get that in. 263 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: Yes, that's all. 264 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: That's literally. He sent me ten texts this week. Hey, 265 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: I told you, so, what are you talking about? Hey? 266 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: I told you I want to talk about Singer. How 267 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: do you pronounce this? Is it Singer by Design or well? 268 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: Look, I just know them as Singer and Singer basically takes. 269 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: Singer vehicle design. Let's go with that. 270 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 3: So Singer just takes Porsches and keeps the retro Porsche 271 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: look on the outside, but it goes wide body. It 272 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: just adds a lot of styling flare to them. And 273 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: I tell you what, these things look sensational. And we 274 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: just published a news story that Singer is now getting 275 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: into the turbo business. They're based in California and it's 276 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: basically taking the nine six four generation nine to eleven 277 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 3: and reimagines it for enthusiasts. They are expensive and the 278 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: latest one is called the turbo study and it comes 279 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: powered by three point eight letter twein turbo charged and 280 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: into called flat six making over three hundred kilowatts of power. 281 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: And this thing is just wow, They're stunning. So yeah, 282 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: like you were saying, it feels like this really is 283 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: the service for the rich and famous. It is almost 284 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: like a private commission. You bring your secondhand Porsche might 285 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: probably would need some sort of restoration anyway, and you're like, 286 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: give it everything. Here's my budget. And by the way, 287 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: there is no budget. Just go to friggintown and they will. 288 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: And I know before COVID I was saying that one 289 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: of my mates was into it and it was about 290 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: an eighteen month wait then and that was you know, 291 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: getting it overseas, getting it all done, sending it over here. 292 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: That was within eighteen months, and that was like, wow, 293 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: that's such a long way. So now I don't know, 294 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: but i'd have to say at least two years plus. 295 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have blown out. 296 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: And that's the thing with these vehicles. You it's expensive 297 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: because you have to have one to start with. They 298 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: then butcher it. And by saying butcher it, I mean 299 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: they have to take it all apart to add all 300 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: this stuff to it. 301 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: But the thing is, anyone can really buy a Lambo. 302 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: So if you just walk into a Lamborghini dealership, you 303 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: just throw money at them and they will get you 304 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: a car. 305 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: But with these guys, this is why people go and 306 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: buy these. They're just different. Oh the absolutely you know, 307 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: buy this. 308 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: Porsche doesn't generally like people stuffing around with their cars, 309 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: but I feel like there is almost a bit of 310 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: an understanding. Yeah, there's almost like a tip of the 311 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: hat yes this, and I think there's a lot of 312 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: respect there. And I'm just I'm going through the instapage. 313 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: It really looks stunning. I thought they did. I thought 314 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: Singer were the ones who did that. Did you say 315 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: that Porsche Baha? 316 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, I'm pretty. 317 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: Sure they were on board with a bit of that. Anyway, 318 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: that thing was a gun like that was going over 319 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: sand dunes and stuff like that. They made about three 320 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: of them, and I know recently two of them came 321 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: up for sale. 322 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: It's them as well. So I'm just reading a story 323 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: here on Road and Track. The latest portion nine to 324 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: eleven from Singer is a Baja Ready twin turboo Monster. Yeah, 325 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: so it's called the All Terrain Competition study and it 326 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: looks mental, but just. 327 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: The way they kid out their interior, and for an 328 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: American company too, like usually when Americans get their hands 329 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: on a car and do mods. I don't particularly think 330 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: it's that tasteful. I really don't. 331 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: But the thing is that I've noticed in none of 332 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: these stories do they mention the price. And I think 333 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: that's indicative of how much it costs. 334 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: The guy who started this used to be in a 335 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: rock band back in the days, so cool, I forget it. 336 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: I think it's like Rob Dick Dickinson up. I don't 337 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: I can't even remember the band he was in, but 338 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: I know he was in English or he's an English guy, 339 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: and I think that maybe that says a lot for 340 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: the for the way that this car is put together, 341 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: because the Heia is just just stunning. The herring bone, 342 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: the dash, oh man. 343 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: It's it's one hundred percent there. 344 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: I love it absolutely, It's one of it looks. It's 345 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: one of those things if if if you had that 346 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: crazy amount of money and you wanted to do a 347 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: J Leno style garage, you would be like, guys, whatever 348 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: it takes put this car together for me, I want it. 349 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: I want it. The turbo that they made was incredible. 350 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's almost like I kind of wish 351 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: that they got together with Porsche and put something together 352 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: for Porscha. 353 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: Is going to do their Baja car, which is like 354 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: an off road version of the nine to eleven. Right, 355 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: so we'll see what that looks like. But I don't 356 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: think it'll be anywhere near as cool as this singer stuff. 357 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: No, I agree, Car Review Time, Yes, throw to it. 358 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: Just you always give it a bit of a Yars 359 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: or yards Queen or whatever you do. Yes, okay, that'll do. 360 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: Cue the bloody New Zealand. I had to pay that 361 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: woman so much money, and I want some sort of 362 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: a drummed up. Yes. 363 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 4: The Bmwix range prices start from one hundred and fifty 364 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 4: six thousand, five hundred and fifty three dollars for the 365 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 4: x Drive forty to the one we reviewed, the x 366 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 4: Drive fifty at one hundred and eighty three thousand, two 367 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 4: hundred dollars excluding on road costs. 368 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: The bmw Ix, which is currently parked out the front 369 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: looking lovely except. 370 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: You're in it. Who looks better the car or me? 371 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god? You honestly don't deserve to be in 372 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: that car. You look shady as anything. You look honestly, 373 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: you look like you've stolen it. You werering songs today 374 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: driving a one hundred and eighty thousand dollars car. That 375 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: pisses me off because you actually see genuine like rich 376 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 1: people doing that, getting into their portion nine elevens just 377 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: with you know, tracks, it pants and whatnot. 378 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: And I'm glad you don't feel too strongly about it. 379 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: Lovely car, it's really nice. I think I'm gonna preference 380 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: this by saying that obviously I haven't been driving it 381 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: around like you've been driving around, but as an Admira 382 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: looks really cool. 383 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, look in the pictures, it looks interesting. In person, 384 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: it looks interesting, And styling is entirely subjective, right, So 385 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 3: what I think looks great, other people may not, and 386 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 3: vice versas. 387 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: So it is imposing. 388 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: It turns a lot of heads, but I don't know 389 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: if it's turning a lot of heads for the right reason. 390 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: I do love the back of it. The front not 391 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: entirely sold on, but it is what it is. I 392 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: actually mentioned when we were filming this at the proven 393 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: ground where we film at that I don't know how 394 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: well this will work in the country, because the door 395 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: handles are set up in such a way that you 396 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: could have a huntsman or something living underneath them. 397 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: You are a certified pussy. Well where we were filming, 398 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: where you were filming was literally at a huntsman's nest, 399 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: and they were everywhere everywhere. 400 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: It was like five of them in plain sight. And 401 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: then one of them, which I thought was dead, I 402 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: went back inside five minutes later and it had vanished, 403 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh this, I'm getting out of here. 404 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: So this is why I think that if you owned 405 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 3: this car in the middle of Australia, that you would 406 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: have all sorts of fun things living under the door handles. 407 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: I kind of feel like that's with any door handle though, 408 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: right a very spacious door handle recesses. 409 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: By the way, that hand yester you just did, Banji 410 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: look like a going to collogist. 411 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, look a few curious things about the outside. 412 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: I mentioned to you that the grill. The grill is there, 413 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 3: but it's not real because it's an ev They only 414 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: use the bottom section, which has these loovers that open 415 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: and close depending on whether it needs cooling. That just 416 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: sort of calls the battery right, and the grill section 417 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 3: actually has a speaker behind it for the order a 418 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 3: pedestrian warning stuff. It has the radar, It has a 419 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: dimeister in it to keep that from frosting over. 420 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: But it also has a self healing. 421 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 3: Sort of finish on it, so if you do get 422 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: a scratch or anything like that on there, you apply 423 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 3: heat to it and within twenty four hours it closes 424 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 3: over the gash. 425 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: So Jesus, I think we just got pulled off Spotify again. 426 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: So it's like my ex wife, So yeah, I think 427 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: that's cool. 428 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: Also, the bonbit doesn't open, which I think is stupid 429 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 3: because EV should take full advantage of the space under there. Well, 430 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: it doesn't open for the consumer. So you fill the 431 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: washer fluid through the BMW logo, you press it, it pops open. 432 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's interesting. 433 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: It looks like a rough Saturday night down Oxford Street. 434 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: It's just that's good. I think that's good. No, yeah, 435 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: the Oxford there was those photos of you coming out 436 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: of the tool shed. That was Scandal's we're in the 437 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: bumless chaps. What were you doing that day? 438 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 3: So yeah, Like in terms of the car itself, the 439 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 3: interior you've sat inside it, what do you think of 440 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: the interior? 441 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? I like it. I think it's you can customize this, 442 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: like you're saying to almost anything, this particular one that 443 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: you're driving. I wouldn't personally do it like that. It 444 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: sort of has these weird if you want to configure 445 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: the seat, you know, you want to move it up 446 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: and down and across and whatever. It looks like it's glass, Yeah, 447 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 1: it's but it's this kind of brown glass like it 448 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: looks like Geny Little's ear rings. It looks like a 449 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: nineteen to seventy Scotch bottle, do you know what I mean? Yeah, 450 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: which is kind of cool. But yeah, it's very sort 451 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: of I don't know how to describe it. 452 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: It's artie. 453 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: It's for chicks, it's what that means. But yes, yeah, 454 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: it's it's got a it's got a feminim touch about it. 455 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: It's got the wood grain on the on the front, 456 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 1: which I think is really cool. The one thing that 457 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: I point it out to you was they've gone to 458 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: all this effort to put in glass, this stunning looking 459 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: kind of glass wheel in the middle and glass on 460 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: the sides for adjusting seats and whatnot, and then wood 461 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: grain on the dash and then sort of scratchy plastics 462 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: at the bottom. It's like, come on, like why do that. 463 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: I think the key sportage had that wood grain and 464 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: then you know, next to cheap plastics and stuff. 465 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 2: It's like, oh yeah, look. 466 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: You're doing that. 467 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: I think with the interior they've when I picture a 468 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: modern EV this is what I think it looks like. 469 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: The huge infotainment displays that one screen, it's like one 470 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 3: screen from the It's the first BMW to features eight, 471 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: which is the latest version of their sort of high 472 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: drive infotainment system, and it works really well. It's a 473 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 3: big step forward. Great integration with the app. So you 474 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: can take a photo of outside the car, a three 475 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: sixty photo. You can take a photo inside the car. 476 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: If the alarm is activated, it will save the photo. 477 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: The sort of vision from inside and outside the car, 478 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 3: so good sort of connectivity with the app and the 479 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: tech inside is fantastic. The chairs are like lounge chairs 480 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: there as opposed to just seats. They really hug you 481 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: in nicely. Even in the second row. There's padding on 482 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: the side so you can kind of sleep on the 483 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 3: door if you want to. 484 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 5: It just supports you all, yeah, he's had a few 485 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 5: rough nights and yeah, so yeah, it's it's just a 486 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 5: really beautiful interior and I think they've they've done such 487 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 5: a nice job with that in terms of how it drives. 488 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: Look, it does all the ev stuff great, like it 489 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: pins you back in the seat. 490 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: The specific specification that we're driving here is the X 491 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: Drive fifty, which is currently the top spick. There is 492 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: an M sixty version coming, so the whole thing kicks 493 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: off at around one hundred and thirty five grand, but 494 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: this one here is about one hundred and seventy and 495 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: that brings with it a pretty punchy drive train, so 496 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 3: three hundred and eighty five kilos of power, seven hundred 497 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: and sixty five new meters of talk. 498 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: They're good, they're good figures, you know. 499 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 2: Well, the range is actually pretty good as well. 500 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 3: So it has a one hundred and twelve kilo white 501 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 3: our battery, so it's a big battery, but with that 502 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: and the power train, it allows you to do zero 503 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: to one hundred and four point six seconds and it 504 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 3: has a range of six hundred and thirty kilometers. Just 505 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: pretty decent, like you don't feel like you need to 506 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: be filling up all the time. The thing I don't 507 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: understand though, You can buy literally the cheapest. 508 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: Tesla they sell on the market, which is here we go. 509 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: What's that number? 510 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 4: Ten? 511 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: Oh? Great lunch is now officially on. 512 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: So the entry level model three will charge at two 513 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty kilowatts. 514 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: Ye, that is the cheapest Tesla you can buy. 515 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 3: This will only charge at well at under two hundred kilowatts, 516 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 3: so it peaks at at one ninety or thereabouts. 517 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: We need to put the killer wat thing into like 518 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: normal person perspectives. Well, so if you want to go 519 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: from yeah, so if you want to go from ten 520 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: to say eighty percent, okay. 521 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 3: So basically, according to them, it adds ninety five kilometers 522 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: of range in ten minutes, or actually in the extra 523 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: fifty it's one hundred and fifty kilometers of range in 524 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: ten minutes. So if you wanted to half charge, the 525 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: battery would take twenty minutes, which isn't very fast compared 526 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 3: to other cars on the market, like the Oni five, 527 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: the Tesla stuff, they all charge at a much faster rate. 528 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: So I think that's a little bit disappointing to me. 529 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: Is this car worth one hundred and seventy thousand dollars. 530 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 3: Look, I think it is from the point of view 531 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 3: of it being a luxury car. It does luxury incredibly well. 532 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: But where we tested it at the proving ground, we 533 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: add it on the right and handling track and it 534 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: doesn't tick the BMW brief of being the ultimate driver's machine. 535 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: It is very floaty. 536 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 3: It feels a bit like a bus to drive, and yeah, 537 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: great for highway cruising. It is very comfortable and very 538 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: quiet inside. But it's not dynamic and that disappointed me 539 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: a little bit. 540 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: So those sorts of things are going to come into 541 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: play when you're driving through busy traffic, weaving in and out. 542 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 2: Look at it'll be okay there. 543 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 3: It's more if you find yourself on a mountain pass 544 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: and you want to have a bit of fun. Every 545 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 3: other BMW product, if you put it into sport mode, 546 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: you can have fun with it regardless of what it is. This, 547 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: on the other hand, is kind of the opposite. Feels 548 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: more like a Mercedes Benz than a BMW. I don't 549 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: know if that's a bad thing, but it's Yeah. 550 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: Should it be on the list? Are we buying this? Yeah? 551 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: Look, I think it's a really good alternative to everything 552 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 3: else Like that e tron I think is just the 553 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: worst way you could buy an ev Yeah right, it's 554 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: just not very good at all. This, on the other hand, 555 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 3: has lots of arrange. The tech is fantastic, very comfortable, 556 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 3: lots of room inside, but it just doesn't handle very 557 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 3: well and also doesn't charge very fast. But if you're 558 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 3: not too fussed by that, then on an issue. 559 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: All right, So what do they do with the bloody 560 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: channels these days? 561 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: If you want to get in touch with us, contact 562 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 2: at the driveshow dot com. Todau is our email. We 563 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: read every single email that comes through, whether it's good, bad, or. 564 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: We review all twelve of them, mainly the hate mail, 565 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: chasing cars I'm looking at you. 566 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 3: Or you could contact us through social media and we 567 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 3: will see that as well. But I thought i'd read 568 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 3: out just a couple of sort of bits of feedback 569 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 3: that we've got. Somebody has said your show is hilarious 570 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: and informative, really great banter and car my new go to, 571 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: Oh thank you, I like this one. 572 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: Someone wrote like this pawn channel very much. 573 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: There was that one episode where we had too much 574 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: to drink and one thing led to another and Paul 575 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: showed me a move called the Late Spring Donkey like wow, 576 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: And then what about later on where you wanted to 577 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: reveal the Croatian mule? That was That was a good episode. 578 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: Another one was Paul is amazing, Thank you and. 579 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: That is literally not a that is not a review. 580 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 3: And Gordy cracks me up. Very informative and fun podcast. 581 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: Half of that's true. Another one informative and well produced. 582 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 3: My new favorite, so thank you know it's coming through. 583 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: Paul reads them to his wife and it prevents her 584 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: not leaving him. 585 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 3: No, no, there's like a double negative there. 586 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: What do you mean prevents her not leaving him, which 587 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 2: means she stays there. 588 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: You go, thank you? Yeah, God, you're a bitch. God, 589 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: thank you for listening. Please keep the feedback coming. Yeah, 590 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: it does mean the world, in all seriousness, It does 591 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: mean the world to rate and review and subscribe, because 592 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: that bumps this podcast up and gives us some bragging 593 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: rights over some of the really shit car journals out there, 594 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: don't you think? I think so. I always screenshot them 595 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: and send them to other journals. Can I name the 596 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: one I send them to? No? Okay, what are we 597 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: going to do next? Week. 598 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, send us an email. Contact at the 599 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 3: drive show dot com today. You let us know what 600 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: you want to hear about. 601 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: I you know, a couple of EPs ago, you sent 602 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: me a challenge to review a Chinese car. Now I'm 603 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: going to set the challenge for you to review a 604 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: Croatian car. 605 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: I think the only one they made was the you 606 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: go What's really it was like? 607 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: That was actually an old man who used to just 608 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: piggyback on. Come on. 609 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: The joke was you would buy a bicycle and get 610 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: a free you go shit they were. 611 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: Is that how funny the Croatians are? That's a joke? 612 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: Is that a jake? Is that you trying to be funny? 613 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: I think it was actually the truth? Oh my god, Okay, 614 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: get out, Okay, I'm going to set a challenge. Can 615 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: you give me in a Ferrari? 616 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: No? 617 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: I try. That was a good challenge. Let's throw the 618 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: challenge out to the people. Yes, if you've got something 619 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: that you want Paul and I to come out and review, 620 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: let us know. Get in contact with us the driveshow 621 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: dot com dot use socials on Instagram or email and yeah, 622 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: let's do that. Agreed? Yes? Good? Can you get me 623 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: in a ferrari,