1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: An incredibly busy day this morning. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: Already now joining me live in the studio is the 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: Chief Minister of. 4 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: The Northern Territory, Lea Finocchi. 5 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 3: A O, good morning, Lea, good morning Katie. Into your listeners. 6 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: Now, Liah's some good news this morning. To kick things off. 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: The governments say that they are delivering on their election 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 2: commitment to ease cost of living pressures by freezing car 9 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: registration fees as well as providing a free driver's license 10 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: for a year and enabling three year trailer registrations. So, 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: as I understand it, it's going to be effective immediately. 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 2: The government's freezing all registration fees for light vehicles at 13 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: their current rate until the first of July twenty twenty six. 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: Tell us exactly what this means. 15 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's another great election commitment that we've been able 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: to tick off at the last ten weeks have been 17 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: so busy, Katie, but we just really wanted to restore 18 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: confidence in Territorians that when you work hard and you 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: put your mind to something, things can be achieved. And 20 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: so you know, we've had our reducing crime package, We've 21 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: got a whole raft of things out the door, and 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: now our cost of living pressure at the MVR are 23 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 3: also being released, so there's a few things in it 24 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: for everyone. There's of course three year trailer rego which 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: saves people time. Everyone universally dislikes lining up at the MVR. 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: No disrespect to the lovely people working there, it's just 27 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: not a great way to spend time. And then of 28 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: course the free driver's licenses for one year and the 29 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 3: freezing of those redio prices which just help that little 30 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: bit at a really tough time, particularly heading into Christmas. 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: What happens if you've. 32 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: Already if you've already paid your driver's license, well, you know, 33 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: like you're somebody who's done the five years or. 34 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: Something like that. 35 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the licenses is going to go from one 36 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: January twenty five so starting next year, to one to 37 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: thirty June twenty twenty six. So that should give enough people. 38 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: I believe it's over one hundred thousand territories will benefit 39 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: from it, so perhaps everyone won't, but of course everyone 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: will have the opportunity to benefit from the redgo freeze. 41 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: And then of course the trailer registration extensions. 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: Do we know how much this is costing the Northern 43 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: Territory government to deliver, because I guess that's a big 44 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: question that a lot of people ask when we do 45 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: have these kinds of announcements. We appreciate it, but we 46 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: also don't want to be paying for it in other ways. 47 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're absolutely right, Katie, and everything has a cost. 48 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: I believe it was a couple of million dollars on 49 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: this one, Katie, But I can get the treasurer to 50 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: circle back to you on that one. But it's about 51 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: spending our money prudently. You know, people do need wide 52 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: ranging relief at the moment, but we're very conscious of 53 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: our debt levels and that's why we've found that near 54 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: two hundred million dollars in savings across a range of 55 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: reprioritized projects. We're really confident going forward we'll be able 56 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: to spend money wisely, not spend money on things that 57 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 3: don't benefit territorians, and grow our economy to increase the 58 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: size of the pie and eventually drive down debt. 59 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: LEA very quick one one here that says Hi Katie 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: and co. Regarding freezing red Joe costs. I just heard 61 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: you state that this is going to come into effect 62 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: on the first of July next year. I just renewed 63 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: mine back in August. This will mean I miss out 64 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: on this cost of living saving. Could you ask the 65 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: chief manue to why it can't be for twelve months 66 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: from when it's approved so everyone gets this. 67 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: So it's from I believe it's from today until one 68 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: July twenty twenty six. So I don't know that level 69 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 3: of specific detail. I'm sorry, listener, but get in touch 70 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: with us and we'll be able. 71 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: To perfect now. 72 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: Or we might even see if we can get some 73 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: to the detail and we can let people know throughout 74 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: the morning. Now, I want to move along because there 75 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: is so much happening and shocking news flowing through. Late 76 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 2: on Friday, in the same week that the brand new 77 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: youth detention center opened, two hundred thousand dollars worth of 78 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: damage was caused in less than thirty minutes. Now, the 79 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: Minister for Corrections, Jared Maylee, confirmed that the deliberate act 80 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: of vandalism was caused by six youth detainees aged between 81 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: thirteen and seventeen. In each case, the rooms were damaged 82 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: in just under thirty minutes in intervals between officers routine checks. 83 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: These rooms. 84 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: As I understand it now inoperable. It is appalling. There 85 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: is no other way to put it. This youth center 86 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: cost an absolute fortune to build. It's the first few 87 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: days that it's operational and it's two hundred thousand dollars 88 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: worth of damage. 89 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: It's disgusting, Katie, absolutely abhorrent, disgusting behavior from young people 90 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: who've already done the wrong thing and are incarcerated. And 91 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: it just shows the level of lawlessness we're dealing with. 92 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: I urge people to look to this example when we 93 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: hear a lot of rhetoric around children shouldn't be behind bars. Well, 94 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: I mean these kids are in custody and have destroyed 95 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: the place. This is excuse me. This is a one 96 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: hundred and forty million dollar facility. It was promised by 97 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: Labor to deliver therapeutic support and all of these other 98 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: pipe dreams by Chancey Paig and co. And yet what 99 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: we've got is a facility that's not fit for purpose. 100 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: Now this was destroyed within a matter of minutes. Now 101 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 3: it's going to cost the tax pay even more money 102 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: to fix. And again this is why we put Youth 103 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: Justice back in corrections because Labour's soft touch and this 104 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: pretend approach that we're taking to have everyone believe things 105 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: were okay. It is not okay, and this really exemplifies. 106 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: So is there still. 107 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: Enough capacity now for all the detainees with those rooms 108 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: now inoperable? 109 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Corrections are doing Oh sorry. 110 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: Katie, that's all right. I might get you safer. We 111 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: can get your class of water. 112 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: Thank you, Corrections of doing an amazing job. Gosh, they're 113 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: incredible professionals, which again is exactly why Youth Justice has 114 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: gone to Corrections. So they're managing it. The youth in 115 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 3: Alice Springs won't be transferred until December, so. 116 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: So held that off. 117 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was always the plan. But certainly 118 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: we're just having to really watch those numbers now given 119 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: the lower capacity that we've got in the Darwin facility. 120 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 3: But it's just such a joke, Katie. You think of 121 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: any one of your listeners right now could think of 122 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: one hundred ways to spend one hundred and forty million 123 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: dollars better, And now we've got a facility that seventy 124 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: million over budget, two years over time frame, and it's 125 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: not even capable of We're standing a day. 126 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: So do you know, na what the latests in terms 127 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: of when those rooms are going to be back up 128 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: and running. 129 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: No, we're trying to get that done urgently. The department 130 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: again have been exceptional. On Friday when this was brought 131 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: to us attention, we just said get it fixed. We 132 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: need this done. Put this information out into the public. 133 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: You know, we're not going to do a Natasha files, 134 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 3: just wear and tear a situation. The community deserved to 135 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: know and understand how their money is being spent, the 136 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 3: level of waste, and it will really underpin if people 137 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: understand this type of frivolous spending and the lack of 138 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: appropriate infrastructure. It will also give them better context for 139 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: when my CLP government makes decisions. Some people might think 140 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: it's harsh or over the top, but what we're dealing 141 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: with is really serious and I need people to understand 142 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: that when a young person ends up in prison, it's 143 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: not for stealing a loaf of bread because they're hungry. 144 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: Well, we actually. 145 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: Spoke to other police life last week and they'd sort 146 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: of talked us through some of the situations where you know, 147 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: like that some of our youths are actually involved in 148 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: and some of the behavior is utterly appalling. Now to 149 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: then see what's going on inside that youth detention center 150 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: and the damage that's been done. I mean, are they 151 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: going to be charged with further offenses following on from 152 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: all that damage? 153 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: I certainly hope so, Katie. I know police are investigating it, 154 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: and that would certainly be anyone's expectation. If you've done 155 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: the wrong thing, you should be charged for it. And 156 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: we're actually exploring legislative reform in that space as well 157 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: to make sure that our laws. You know, if you 158 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: are in a correctional facility and then you go on 159 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: to reoffend whilst in prison, that should have a more 160 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: significant consequence. 161 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: We also know, though, that a youth detainee allegedly assaulted 162 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: two Youth Justice officers last Tuesday, striking one with a 163 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: broom before punching both in the face of the Ella 164 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: Springs Detention Center. The detainee is further alleged to have 165 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: spat in the face of both those officers. On the 166 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: same day to youth detainees alleged to attacked a senior 167 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: Youth Justice officer at the Alla Springs Detention Center. 168 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: Now one of the detainees. 169 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: Allegedly hit that officer twice in the lower torso and 170 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: twice directly Spatane's face. What has happened then following these assaults, 171 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: like to me, I think people are listening, going. 172 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: To be saying this is utterly appalling behavior. 173 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's worse than that. It's just abhorrent and unacceptable. 174 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: We've got corrections staff who go to work to keep 175 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: our community safe. Remember, if it wasn't for corrections, criminals 176 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: would be out on the street. That's when our corrections 177 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: officers do. They are protecting us from people who would 178 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 3: cause harm. And then they have gone and spat in 179 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: the faces of corrections officers. We release the photo of 180 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 3: some of the injuries to the torso of one of 181 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: the officers. I mean, this is unacceptable and he reinforces 182 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: why we changed and strengthened the laws a few weeks 183 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: ago in Parliament Katie. Now spitting has a minimum mandatory 184 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: sentence of three months. We've also strength and across that 185 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 3: entire suite of laws for assaulting someone at work. So 186 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 3: there's so much work to do, Katie. This is just 187 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: going to be such a long haul to turn the 188 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: ship around, but we're onto it. This is not acceptable 189 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: and you know there's new rules in place. Community expectation 190 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: will be upheld and people will face the consequences of 191 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: their actions. 192 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: Just before we move along. 193 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: Is there a problem here that there is actually not 194 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: enough staff to staff that new facility. 195 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: No, we're staffing our facilities properly. Of course, there are 196 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: absolute demand pressures. I'm not going to sugarcoat that, and 197 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: our correction staff are just being so amazing. We really, 198 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: we really could not do it without them. So we 199 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: are actively recruiting. We're working out ways in which we 200 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: can real leave pressure on the system, and that's what 201 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: this new justice facility was supposed to do. Of course, 202 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: it was the first domino to fall in terms of 203 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: the movement of prisoners around the territory. And look at 204 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: the result of it. I mean, it's just a disgrace. 205 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: Labour should hang their head in shame for the lies 206 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: and the ridiculous situation they've put territorians in because it's 207 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: all of us, everyday people who are suffering as a 208 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: result of their total gross in competence. 209 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: Now, while we seem to be unable to get a 210 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: hold of the bad behavior of some of our teenagers 211 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: around the community, children and teenagers under the age of 212 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: sixteen could soon be banned now from using social media. 213 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: After Labor announced that it's going to back the higher 214 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: cutoff limit, a virtual national cabinet meeting was held on Friday, 215 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: as I understand it, to discuss these changes, where states and. 216 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: Territory leaders supported the policy. 217 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: Leah, how is this actually going to be policed, because 218 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: to me it sounds like it's going to be a joke. 219 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, So this is actually the federal government prerogative. It's 220 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: their legislation. To the Prime Minister's credit, he held a 221 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 3: national Cabinet meeting to get our feedback, but they can 222 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: proceed either way. It didn't require the supporter or otherwise 223 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 3: of states and territories. Here in the territory, we haven't 224 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: had any consultation on this, and I made that very 225 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: clear to the Prime Minister and my First Minister colleagues. 226 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: But in other jurisdictions like South Australia and New South 227 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: Wales and Victoria, they have done extensive consultation with teachers, students, 228 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: families and the overwhelming move around the nation is to 229 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: put in place better safeguards for our kids. So when 230 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 3: it comes to policing, yes, it may be difficult. Certainly, 231 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: the onus is on the social media providers not on 232 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: punishing young people and their parents, but it's about making 233 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 3: sure we protect our kids from It's not just cyber bullying, 234 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: it's all sorts of different types of pressures around body image, 235 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: for example. And so I think this is a step 236 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 3: in the right direction, and the federal government will now 237 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 3: proceed through that normal bill stage. 238 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: I get it, like I totally understand what the government's 239 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: trying to do, but how are you going to stop kids? 240 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 2: Like a lot of these kids as will, they communicate 241 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 2: with each other on gaming platforms, So if there's bullying 242 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: going on, or if there's any kind of creeps trying 243 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: to contact them, they can still try to contact them 244 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: on those platforms as well. You've then got things like 245 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: you To that are actually used in a lot of 246 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: ways for education too. 247 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: So I just feel as though this is a bit of. 248 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: A situation where where the government's sort of intervening in 249 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: an area where I think it could actually be a 250 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: bit more educational. 251 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: Well, there are going to be exemptions, so gaming isn't 252 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 3: part of it, and I believe neither of the messaging platforms, 253 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: and the government will now look to what types of 254 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: social media could be exempt if those providers, for example, 255 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: were able to create safe platforms. I think there's a 256 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 3: lot of water to go under this bridge, for sure. 257 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 3: But what we're seeing is the real You know, that 258 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: algorithm is determined to sell products to our children, tell children, 259 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: reinforce what they want to hear, and so it's a 260 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 3: very dangerous thing. Here in the territory. We've got five 261 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: times the national average for mental health presentations in hospital. 262 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: I don't know how much of that is contributed by 263 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 3: social media, but it's a profound issue that we need 264 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: to do something about. And we've already taken steps in 265 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: the territory to ban phones also, that's already in place, 266 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: and we've just legislated posting and boasting laws as well. 267 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: So I think you'll see right across the country in 268 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: a number of ways getting on top of this prevalence 269 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: and the harms associated with social media are on the 270 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: front of minds of all governments. 271 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: Look, let's move along, because as I said, there is 272 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: so much to discuss. 273 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: This morning, We've. 274 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: Actually just had a caller call through to say this 275 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: morning at about seven point thirty that they understand that 276 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: a group of eight people were drinking outside of LORI 277 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 2: Zeo's office. It would be in perrap and their understanding 278 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: is that it's escalated to a stabbing. Do you have 279 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: any detail on that or have you been told anything 280 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 2: about that? 281 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 3: I do, Katie, I do. So students were walking past 282 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: the bakery this morning and it's been alleged that someone 283 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: threatened them with a knife. So the kids ran inside 284 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: the bakery, which is fantastic good and so the kids 285 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 3: did the right thing. Police arrived immediately and the person 286 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: has been arrested by police. So great swift work by police, 287 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: excellent smart thinking those kids. And police have also attended 288 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: the school, spoken to kids, spoken to teachers, so there's 289 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: been a really quick comprehensive response there. But terrifying incident. Again, 290 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: kids just walking to school, my business. 291 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: Utterly terrifying. 292 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: Not only walking to school, but that's where they actually 293 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: congregate to catch the bus as well, for a lot 294 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: of different schools. 295 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: Are those students. 296 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, look, I hope. So no one's been physically hurt, 297 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: Obviously there'll be a level of trauma there, and so 298 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: police are working with the school as we speak. But again, 299 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: this is why getting on top of law and order 300 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: is so important. No child deserves to feel unsafe, let 301 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: alone be put in an extremely volatile, dangerous situation on 302 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: their way to the way to school. 303 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: Like, I'm actually furious hearing this. 304 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: It's disgusting. 305 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: And you know, I have been in a situation at 306 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: that very location where I've actually had to have my 307 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: daughter contact us to say that there's a man trying 308 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: to get them to lure them to another location where 309 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: the police had rocked up. 310 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: You know, this is it's not good. 311 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: Enough, you behavior that we're seeing in the community. And 312 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: I get it that the COLP is trying to now 313 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: make some changes in this space, but we are literally like, 314 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: we are at a point where a kid can't even 315 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: go to school safely without witnessing actually appalling behavior. 316 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: It's a tragedy what has happened to the territory. There's 317 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: no other way to say it. We can't sugarcoat it. 318 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: We all know it. That's why people are leaving, That's 319 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: why businesses are shutting down. That's why people are thinking 320 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: is it safe to raise a family here? And it's 321 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: why I'm here, Katie, because I know that to be 322 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: true as well. My family's being raised here. I was 323 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: born here, raised my whole life here. So everyone who 324 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: knows it has seen the decline and everyone wants that 325 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: to stop now. Stopping it, unfortunately after eight years of 326 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: just profound incompetence is really really tricky, but we are 327 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: just throwing everything at it. There's no way around this. 328 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: We must make the territory safe. That's my life's goal 329 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: is to achieve that, Katie, I can tell you, and 330 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: we've started that work, but there's a lot more that 331 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: needs to be done and will back our police all 332 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: the way to make sure their streets are safe. 333 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: Chief Minestro, I just want to get your reaction to 334 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: what is a pretty shocking story in the Australian newspaper 335 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: this morning. A senior officer at the nation's NAJA So 336 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: Aboriginal Legal Service has been arrested after she was allegedly 337 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: found in bed with one of her parole cases who'd 338 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: recently been released from jail and gone missing. 339 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: Now. 340 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: The woman who manages the paroles of serious offenders for 341 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: the North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency was allegedly found in 342 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: an Alice Springs hotel room with manslaughter offender Jefferson Woody 343 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: early on Sunday morning during a police raid. Police had 344 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: been hunting Woody, who is twenty years old and sixteen 345 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: years younger than this person, after he'd allegedly removed his 346 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: electronic ankle bracelet and gone on the run just months 347 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: after getting out of jail. 348 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: The Australian understands that it will. 349 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: Be alleged that the NAJA officer laid a bizarre trial 350 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: to the Macure resort in Alice Springs and she tried 351 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: to help them out escape a long second sentenced for 352 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: breaking his parole conditions. 353 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: I mean, some of this stuff is just so unbelievable, 354 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: isn't it, Katie is so you know, obviously they're allegations. 355 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: If they're true, they're incredibly serious. I'm sure all of 356 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 3: the appropriate investigations are taking place. And this really comes 357 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: at a time when naja's trying to get back up 358 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: on its feet, and no doubt undermines the confidence in 359 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: that institution. So not good news, Katie and I gain 360 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: the territory in the headlines nationally for all the wrong. 361 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: R Absolutely, it's utterly embarrassing, amazing. Do you think that 362 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: Najeri is capable of getting back on its face? 363 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: Look? 364 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 3: I think it can, but there's a long way to 365 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: go there, and it's something we're really focused on because, 366 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: as we know, for us to have an efficient court 367 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: system where victims get access to justice, we need people 368 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 3: who do the wrong thing to be represented, and so 369 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: we're working really hard to deliver on that. We've given 370 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 3: an extra million dollars to legal aid obviously, but you know, 371 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: NIJA has not been in good shape for a long 372 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: time and we've really got to get them sorted out. 373 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: All right. 374 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: A couple of quick ones, the Amphibious Aircraft AAI. Is 375 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: there an update on this project because we've had listeners 376 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: claiming that the company is no longer using the hangar 377 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: that they purchased at the airport. 378 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do have an update on that, Katie, and 379 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: I know it's something your listeners are really really concerned about. 380 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: So I can confirm that they were given a two 381 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: point five million dollar loan, but by the Northern Territory 382 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: government the Labor government, but that has been repaid. But 383 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 3: the territory does have a three million dollar equity stake 384 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: in that company. They aren't out at the airport and 385 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: so we're seeking further clarification about what's going on with 386 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 3: this project. 387 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: So the Northern Territory government's got a three million dollar 388 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: equity stake. 389 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: In this company. 390 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 391 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 2: They're no longer operating out of the airport like they 392 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: were meant to be doing. 393 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: That's right, while we gave them alone. 394 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 3: Is that's right, That's exactly right. I think the good 395 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: news is that the loan has been repaid and so 396 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 3: that has been squared away. The issue is now what 397 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: does the territory do with that three million dollar equity stake. 398 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: So we're keeping on top of this issue, and it's 399 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 3: not the end of the story, Katie. 400 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: Is there a clause for us to get it back? 401 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 3: Well, that's what we're working through now to work out 402 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: what's the next steps look like for the territory. 403 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a bit bloody embarrassing, right, Yeah, 404 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: we've invested in a company that's no longer here. 405 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that sounds of it. 406 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 3: That's right, And I think that that's all part of 407 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: the narrative we've had rammed down our throats for the 408 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 3: last eight years around the economy's rosy, and every project 409 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: is a major project, and every project's going to deliver 410 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: hundreds of jobs and billions of dollars and we just 411 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: haven't seen the rubber hit the road on any of it, Katie. 412 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: People are absolutely sick and tired of listening to this 413 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: rubbish quite frankly, So yeah again another laborer special there. 414 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: So from your perspective, now with AIO, what are you like? 415 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: What will you be doing? 416 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: So you've asked them now to basically justify why they're 417 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: not here. 418 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: So Robin Carl the Minister for Business, is taking the 419 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: leadership on this one, so she'll have more detail over 420 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: the coming days and weeks, but certainly on behalf of 421 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: the territory. Our job is to make sure that that 422 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: three million dollars in equity at the minimum remains valuable 423 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 3: to three million dollars, and that we work out how 424 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 3: we move forward to in the best interest of the territory. 425 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: Do we even know if this company is still operating? 426 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: I believe they are in the United States, that's my understanding. 427 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: So they're now operating in the United States and the 428 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 2: Northern Territory government's got three million dollars worth of equess 429 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: a company now that isn't even here. 430 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: What a joke, Yeah it is, it's. 431 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: It's a joke, Katie. I don't know what else to 432 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 3: tell you. These are the beautiful little nuggets that come 433 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: on my desk every day since coming to power, and 434 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: undoubtedly there's many more of them to come, but we'll 435 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: just work through each one and get best value for 436 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: territory and then move forward. 437 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: Alright, very quick one. 438 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: We ask you this a pretty well every week. Any 439 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: update on the soul of tariff. 440 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 3: Yes, so we're just putting the finishing touches on that. 441 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: It'll certainly be this side of Christmas, I'm hoping in 442 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: the next few weeks. But we're right on top of 443 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 3: it and we know it's something people are really excited 444 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: about and looking forward to the big reveal there. 445 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: Leah, thanks so much for your Tom really appreciate you. 446 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: Following up as well on the AI situation. 447 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: I've got a little update about the driver's licenses to 448 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: your listener, So if your license isn't due to expire, 449 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: you can still apply to have that extra twelve month 450 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: added to your account for free, and all the details 451 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: of this plan are on the MVR website, so you 452 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 3: can go to MVR dot NT, dot gov dot AU 453 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: and check out how you're eligible and all the details 454 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 3: are on there. 455 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: Really appreciate your time. Thanks so much for joining us 456 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: this morning, Chief Minister. 457 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 3: Take care everyone. 458 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: Thank you. You're listening to Mix one O four nine's 459 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: three sixty