1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Well, if you're listening to the show. Yesterday we spoke 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: extensively about Saint Vincent de Paul's Osnam house moving from 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Stuart Park to Coconut Grove last year, and the fact 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: that they are now trying to extend that move until 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: a permanent site is secured. Now, the CEO of Saint 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: Hinnis and a local business owner both spoke to us 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: about the development application which has been launched to extend 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: the current lease to September twenty twenty nine. Concerns obviously 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: raised by locals in the area, but the CEO of 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: Vinie saying that there are a number of measures in 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: place to ensure that it doesn't have an impact on 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: people living or working in the area. Now joining us 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: on the line is the local member for Fanny Bay, 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Laurie Zeo. Good morning to you, Laurie. 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: How are you? 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? Really good? Thanks so much for your time this morning. Now, Laurie, 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: first off, do you support this extension? 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: Not at all, Katie. I've been speaking to many, many 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: people in the area and the impact that the move 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: has had on the residents that live in the Coconut 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: Grove area has just far outweighs my ability to be 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: able to support the extension of this program. 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean, what does that mean for you now, obviously 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: as a member of the COLPA. But as we spoke 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: to the Chief Minister about yesterday, it doesn't look as 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: though there's going to be somewhere for them to move 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: in the really close future. 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's some things that we can put 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: into place. I've been speaking to the minister for a 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: very long time, the Minister for Lands and Planning, and 31 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: trying to work through a way of how we can 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: get this moving. Obviously, when we went through the campaign 33 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: process last year, i'd said at that point that I 34 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: was against the move from Stuart Park to Coconut Grove. 35 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: We all knew, we'd spoken to many many constituents and 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: we'd sort of heard the concerns that people had and 37 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: what was happening in Stuart Park was only going to 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: get transferred to Coconut Grove because it's in a residential area. 39 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: So I've been working the Minister since we came to government, 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: since I came into this role, and trying to push 41 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: to make sure things happen as quickly as possible so 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: we didn't get to the position that we're in now. 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: The Minister's been absolutely amazing. He's been working as hard 44 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: as he can to try and get stuff on the 45 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: ground to get things moving. I've got my fingers crossed 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: that we'll be able to announce a site for relocation 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: early next year, like the Chief Ministers spoke about, I 48 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: know that there's potential like some of the sites that 49 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: might be up for move or transition to, they're not 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: necessarily ready to just move into straight away. They might 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: need some groundworks or you know, they might need some 52 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: works to happen before that can be moved into that location. 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: So my hope is that we may very well need 54 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: an extension. I think a three year extension is beyond 55 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: what we should be accepted in this space. So my 56 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: submission to the Development Content Authority will be requesting that 57 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: if we need to do an extension because of the 58 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: work that needs to happened, it's not three years. 59 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: So talk me through what locals are telling you in 60 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: terms of the issues that they're dealing with right now. 61 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: Oh o, Katie, I've received so many photos, videos, messages, 62 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: phone calls, emails about this relocation and to put it 63 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: into context with the amount of people that I've spoken 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: to about this. I've probably received emails from two people 65 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: that have said, Nope, we like the service. That hasn't 66 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: changed anything. We were happy with it. In contrast to that, 67 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: I've probably received sixty emails messages from other people consistently 68 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: saying this is what's happening right now. They're send me photos, videos. 69 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: I've been out there a lot, so I've spent a 70 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: lot of time in the area to see if what 71 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: people are telling me is happening is actually happening. And 72 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: I can confirm that it absolutely is. There's a spill 73 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: coming out of the facility. It's only opened until twelve o'clock, 74 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: so the work at Saint Vincent de Pool and the 75 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: staff there can do it's not able to be carried 76 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: over for the instances that happened from twelve o'clock onwards. 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: So they might be around and they might be trying 78 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: to talk to people about what they do when they 79 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: leave the service, but they're not there and they're not 80 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: available to be able to service the needs that happen 81 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: once people leave that service. 82 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: And do you, I mean, do you then feel as 83 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: though some of the other NGOs or non government organizations 84 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: and services you know, we spoke yesterday about larikiir for example, 85 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: those patrols helping out. Do you feel as though they're 86 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: all working together to try and minimize the impact of 87 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: antisocial behavior? I guess you know what I'm getting to is, 88 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: if Vinnie's are going to stay there at least, you know, 89 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: let's say, like best case scenario, maybe for another year, 90 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: what can be done to try to minimize the impact 91 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: in terms of all of these services actually working together 92 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: to minimize that impact. 93 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: Oh, there's a whole heap of work that could happen 94 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: in that space. So always improvements that can be made. 95 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: I know that organizations are doing what they can to 96 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: the best of their ability, but there's always improvements that 97 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: can be made in that space. I think that Larichi 98 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: Nation could definitely be more involved with people on the 99 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: ground and sort of being outside of that venue between 100 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 2: like from when the service closes or even from about 101 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: ten o'clock because people start to they come in for breakfast. 102 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: I've been into the venue as well and seeing what 103 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: the support are provided, and Katie, I'd have to say, like, 104 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: the service is absolutely needed. Yeah, it's a service that 105 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: the community needs. You know, people go in there they 106 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: get a feed, they're able to wash their clothes, they're 107 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: able to get support, service referrals, whether it's healthcare, whether 108 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: it's homelessness sort of support or emergency relief, housing support, 109 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: centering support, whatever it is that they need, there's the 110 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: ability for them to be able to get support with 111 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: that which we need. We need that service. But yeah, 112 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: I definitely think the Laroche Nation could jump on board 113 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: a little bit here and be around and be visible 114 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: in the area after the service closes, so that we 115 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: can support people leaving and see where they're going and 116 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: where they might need help to get to. 117 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess the question is, so, like, is the 118 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: government adequately funding them to be able to do that? 119 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: Oh, look, not fully across all of the funding that 120 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: goes towards some of these NGOs. I know that, you know, 121 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: there is a lot of funding that goes out to 122 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: the door to them, and we do need to do 123 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: really good reviews of the funding and what outcomes that 124 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: funding is having. We need to be sort of auditing 125 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: to make sure that we're providing the money and it's 126 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: going to a service and there's getting outcomes. So yeah, yeah, yes, 127 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: the needs improvement. 128 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: Laurie someone else has just gotten in contact with us 129 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: and said, can you please ask the local member about 130 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: Orange Sky laundry service at per Rap shops every Sunday morning. 131 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: This person says, I know this is a great service 132 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: for those in need, but not all their clients are 133 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: doing the right thing. The service runs in the morning, 134 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: but their clients stay most of the day and then 135 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: end up drinking, and they're at the bus stops and 136 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: the shopping center at Perap. They're leaving a mess everywhere. 137 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: This person really questioning, you know, whether it's the appropriate location. 138 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't disagree. So this is something that 139 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: happens in Perap right around the corner from my electric office, 140 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: so literally ten meters away from my elected office side. 141 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: I know what happens there. I'm not convinced that the 142 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: Orange Sky service is the reason for that antidosocial of behavior, 143 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: or you know, the reason that people are hanging around. 144 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: We've got a really unique area in Perap there where 145 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: we have quite high density public housing, we have green space, 146 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: and we have the prep tavern and the bottle shop 147 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: all in one really close proximity. So people are coming 148 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: to that area. Orange Sky provide a service where people 149 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: can come in and they can get their clothes wash. 150 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: They have washing machines inside the van, so they come 151 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: and can get that service. In addition to that, we 152 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: have a little it's not a pop up church, but 153 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: it's kind of a church inside the prep village there, 154 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: and the local people that live in that area they 155 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: come to that church service as well. So they're coming 156 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: to the church service, they're getting a feed there, and 157 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: they're also getting their closed washed. I'm not quite convinced 158 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 2: that the you know, the story of that's the reason 159 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: they're coming, is why we're getting that antisocial behavior. I 160 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: don't think that's the reason. I think they would kind 161 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: of be there anyway. Okay, because of the public housing, 162 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: because of the pub, because of the green space. 163 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Laurie, we're gonna have to get ready 164 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: to wrap up, but just very quickly before I let 165 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: you go. In terms of Vinnie's and you know the 166 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: situation there at Coconut Grove, what are the next steps? 167 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: You know, what are you going to do as the 168 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: local member to try to really you know, advocate and 169 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: push for change that locals are calling for. They're to 170 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: say they do not want this service extended. In Coconut Grove. 171 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, so I have been working with a minister 172 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: and we're trying to come up with a solution. I've 173 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: been meetings with Saint Nuncy DePaul. They know that I'm 174 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: applause this, so this is nothing that's hidden from them. 175 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: They did a letter letter box drop saying that they 176 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: were going to be applying for the extension. A day later, 177 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: I did a letter box drop and said I'm opposed 178 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: to this and use some steps to follow if you 179 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: want to get in touch or you need help with 180 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: providing a submission. So the Development Consent to Authority. Submissions 181 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: close on the seventh of November, and there's ways that 182 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: people in the area that are affected by the service 183 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: PEO put their submission, So if they need help with that, 184 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 2: they can come and see us in our office and 185 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: papp we can help do a submission or provide that information. 186 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: Happy to help as much as we can that I'll 187 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: be working closely with the minister to try and make 188 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: sure we can get this outcome that the community is well. 189 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: Remember four Fanny Bay Laurie Zio really appreciate your time 190 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: this morning. Thanks so much for having a chat with us. 191 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Katie and I hope everybody has 192 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: a really great rest of their week. 193 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: Thank you you too.