WEBVTT - How To Reconnect With An Ex 💔💑

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<v Speaker 1>Flexen Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm cater the Flex and Frooms Big Icon Energy podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Recorded live It's studios three oh one in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, this is a new one, friends and foes. Whoever

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<v Speaker 2>is listening. We have a live studio audience as we're

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<v Speaker 2>recording this podcast. Everybody say, AI captain.

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<v Speaker 3>That came very naturally.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in the same generation.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you know what that reminds me of? There was

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<v Speaker 1>some TikTok of this person sitting in the nosebleeds filming

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<v Speaker 1>a crowd clapping on beat and they were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing feels more like a simulation than this, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, classic audience engagement, feels like a simulation. Get

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<v Speaker 1>offline anyway, Please continue.

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<v Speaker 2>Today on the podcast. You're gonna hear some hooting and

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<v Speaker 2>some hollering and some cupping and some wing with our

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<v Speaker 1>I love who did that?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I love it?

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<v Speaker 3>In the front row, Welcome. What's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Nenley Linley like lindsay Lived.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a bit offul name.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you spell it?

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<v Speaker 3>Linley?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it is a bit like lindsay yeah, yeah, you're.

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<v Speaker 1>The substute teacher who refuses to pronounce the name correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>like go, it's this not quite no.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, We're going to be talking about energy vampires. What

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<v Speaker 2>constitutes a energy vampire? How can you avoid them in life?

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<v Speaker 3>And are you the.

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<v Speaker 2>Real problem that's on that big icon energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Green line theory? Have you heard of it? Have you not?

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<v Speaker 3>I have paddles up.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's heard of it? What do you guys do on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet? This is where I'm so concerned about. I

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<v Speaker 1>really feel like the internet, TikTok, social media is give

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<v Speaker 1>me this illusion that I'm as close to the world

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, Like we're all consuming the same content. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody get this tastes the biscuit, Yeah, tastes of goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Not our community. That's okay. So every now and then

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<v Speaker 1>I come across a psychological phenomena which I have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask myself. Are we pathologizing, you know, creating, or like

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<v Speaker 1>looking at really generic human behavior and trying to assign

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<v Speaker 1>meaning to it where there is no meaning? Or is

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<v Speaker 1>this going to change our lives? I'm not sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy doing both of them. So there was this

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<v Speaker 1>random TikTok creator and he has introduced the world to

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<v Speaker 1>the green line theory, and what he says is that

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at a picture of a couple or

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<v Speaker 1>people who are romantically involved, I guess it's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>couple who knows. Imagine there's a picture two people, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple whoever is leaning in. Maybe they're like leaning on

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<v Speaker 1>a shoulder, maybe they're just orienting their body. Apparently they

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<v Speaker 1>are the less dominant person in the dynamic. They're the

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<v Speaker 1>person who is probably more anxious, who doesn't feel as secure,

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<v Speaker 1>who's maybe needier or whatever. And to this person, theorizes

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<v Speaker 1>that when you're in a dynamic, you kind of want

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<v Speaker 1>to be the person who is standing up straight. In

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<v Speaker 1>all photos people think, Okay, well what if I'm shorter,

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<v Speaker 1>what if they're taller? What if you know that's my

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<v Speaker 1>good side or my bad side? Why? What about my

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<v Speaker 1>body image is telling you that I'm not the secure

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<v Speaker 1>or dominant party in this relationship. He goes on to

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<v Speaker 1>express that so much of how we, you know, move

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<v Speaker 1>and orient our bodies is subconscious, and it's learned, and

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<v Speaker 1>it speaks before we do. It speaks before we have

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<v Speaker 1>time to be aware of what it is that we're

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<v Speaker 1>feeling or doing, and So if you want to analyze

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<v Speaker 1>your own like friendships, relationships, partnerships, look at the way

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<v Speaker 1>you orient yourself in a photo. Do I agree with this?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say no, only because I feel as

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<v Speaker 1>though women, especially you're socialized to like do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in photos that men aren't like. I just know people

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<v Speaker 1>awkwardly stand still if they're not comfortable in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the camera. When did people stop doing this? It's a

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<v Speaker 1>tilt smile. I don't think we've done I mean this, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>okay with the tilt smile. I think it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>years that you phase it out, it's how many photos

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<v Speaker 1>you've taken. So I think once you've taken let's say

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand photos of yourself, you'll graduate to the next post.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everything just like wears out eventually. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't taken heaps of photos since high school, your

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<v Speaker 1>go to is like still the you know, the thumbs up,

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<v Speaker 1>or like the cheeky smile, or like the forty five

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<v Speaker 1>degree neck or something is that forty five yeah, something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Do you believe in the green line theory?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>What.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one thing I can hand on heart completely agree with.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that you know the green line theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Go on Facebook and look at all the people that

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<v Speaker 2>are getting engaged, that are getting married, old couples, your

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<v Speaker 2>own photos, and you'll see it confirms the dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are your photos saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm always always alone? So oh no, well, wear's

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<v Speaker 2>that big like on energy photo of us two?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure I'm leaning into you.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I definitely classic anxious word dynamic where let's

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<v Speaker 1>we just like role playing science.

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<v Speaker 3>I see it because I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>You say about the like different posture and different sizes

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<v Speaker 2>of people. I've definitely seen really taller people like crouched

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<v Speaker 2>down onto their partner.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I see. I just feel like if they're

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<v Speaker 1>all the pseudoscience to believe in the green Lion theory

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<v Speaker 1>feels the most baseless to me.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get a quick pull. Do you believe

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<v Speaker 2>in grain line theory?

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh okay, flow up question. Do you believe so much

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<v Speaker 1>in the green lion theory that you're purposely never angling

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<v Speaker 1>yourself to your partner? Because I think that's once, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you start orienting your body differently, but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>behave or think differently.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll definitely be doing that anyone else?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, anyway, energy vampires, do you know what they are?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yes or no?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? They are people that suck the energy out of

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<v Speaker 3>a conversation and a vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but not just that. It's a very particular type

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<v Speaker 1>of person. It's not to say that that is your identity.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that everybody has it within them to just

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<v Speaker 1>like suck the life out of a conversation, to derail it,

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<v Speaker 1>to not be able to assess the energy in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>or to be so unaware of how much they disrupt

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<v Speaker 1>the energy in a room. It's very tricky because I

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<v Speaker 1>used to think that this was like a me problem,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if I'm observing that somebody is messing up my energy,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a me problem. So I've got to be more charismatic,

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<v Speaker 1>take myself out of the room, whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, it's the real epidemic. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>energy vampires are like number one, the type of people

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<v Speaker 1>that at one point were really gratified for making themselves

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<v Speaker 1>making other people responsible for them. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very great skill to recognize that you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do life alone, and that I am your responsibility and

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<v Speaker 1>you're my responsibility. Right, So if I'm going through something

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<v Speaker 1>and I express that as a community like, it's your

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<v Speaker 1>business too. Now if I say I'm thirsty and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't do anything about it, well that's odd. However, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some why are you looking funny?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, are you a vampire in that?

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's just community responsibility, babe. An energy vampire. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>Think about the characteristics of a vampire. Like, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking Edward Cullen, we're not talking Eric Northman, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking Bill Compton. We're talking traditionally, people who come in unannounced,

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<v Speaker 1>people who literally suck the life force out of you

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<v Speaker 1>with no remorse. People who are quite violent in their

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<v Speaker 1>pursuit of pleasure.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like a very hectic way to phrase it. But

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<v Speaker 1>with everyday people, it's like those people you're kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>you are relentless in how much you are taking from

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<v Speaker 1>me and you don't even realize. Like that friend who's

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<v Speaker 1>always got a problem, always got to call you, that

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<v Speaker 1>friend who's like, we've got to hang out only to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what they need to talk about, the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of person's like, can you hold space for me? And

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<v Speaker 1>then decides to like, you know, build a house in

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<v Speaker 1>your heart and your mind, and you're like, okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>what about me? And so I've been thinking realistically because

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<v Speaker 1>I have like two people in mind that I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of as we speak, Brook and from Are they in

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<v Speaker 1>the room? Are they in the room with us right now?

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<v Speaker 1>You will never know? But because I used to be

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<v Speaker 1>like very confrontational, not that I'm not confrontational now, but

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<v Speaker 1>now I realize I'm sensitive. So I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>have confrontations right because just because I could doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to. But now I'm like really avoidant

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<v Speaker 1>with dealing with people. I've got someone in my messages

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<v Speaker 1>right now who sent me this long apology apologizing for

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<v Speaker 1>being an energy vampire. But we're like six years into

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<v Speaker 1>a friendship. This is just who you are. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>if I respond, am I just validating the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>energy vampires do, which is fake self awareness only to

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<v Speaker 1>like extract more from you south the cycle again. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually quite stressed about it, in like a in

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<v Speaker 1>like a I'm not going to do anything about it

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm over it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love her, you know, experience to stress and let

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<v Speaker 2>it ride over you for me? Do you resonate, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>on absolutely, I do. I have a question for you

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<v Speaker 2>first though, So you are someone who's on the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>who's on our show cater on Selextion, Frooms on.

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<v Speaker 3>Cata, you're talking a lot about relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you then find it sounds like this person has

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<v Speaker 2>heard about you speak about energy vampires, or maybe they're

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<v Speaker 2>in like the self development sphere and they obviously know

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<v Speaker 2>you quite well, they've known you for six years. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you ever get people like looking at your Instagram stories

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<v Speaker 2>and then being like oh shit and checking themselves and

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<v Speaker 2>then apologizing to you like is that a regular occurrence?

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<v Speaker 1>Not as much as they should and like that was

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<v Speaker 1>a cry for help. You didn't take the hit. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that, like, if I'm ever saying

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<v Speaker 1>anything overwhelmingly positive, then people like that must be me, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely resonate if it's even remotely negative, Everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where the other person that bypassed me and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going straight to them. In this instance though, I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I used to create a lot of space, how

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<v Speaker 1>do I say it? As a girlie who is a

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<v Speaker 1>big talker people, I think I like to talk. No,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm sitting at home in my own space. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to talk. On the weekends, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk. In my spare time, I don't want to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I just happen to have the skill, and I use

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<v Speaker 1>it so often, and I've convinced myself that, like every

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<v Speaker 1>kind of conflict in my life required a conversation to

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<v Speaker 1>get over it. And then I talked myself into a

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<v Speaker 1>stupor where I'm like, you could just want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>me speak because at this point, why am I having

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<v Speaker 1>the same conversation again and again and again? And in

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<v Speaker 1>this instance, sometimes I wonder, like when people apologize or

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<v Speaker 1>when people are aware of their wrongdoing, how much of

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<v Speaker 1>this is for you to like get through this thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you're feeling, this bird and this guilt, And how

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<v Speaker 1>much is because you recognize that it's impacting me? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, if you do something shady, you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>know within the first like I don't know week or

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<v Speaker 1>so you're like, oh, that's not great, But like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna it's been the same thing again and again

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<v Speaker 1>and again. I'm just like I don't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>do with this information because I don't have the emotional

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<v Speaker 1>energy for it. And that's the thing about energy vampire,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you don't even realize this conversation is taking up

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<v Speaker 1>way more of my energy than yours. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>flippant thought for you. And now I'm sitting with it

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<v Speaker 1>like a little energy vampire. Baby, Someone's gonna look after

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<v Speaker 1>it otherwise I'm negligent. You know. I don't want that,

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think that if you don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>energy vampire, you are the energy vampire. I'm so sorry. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's something about it, like whether or not you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you resonate with it or not. For every

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<v Speaker 1>one person that exists, there is an energy vampire counterpart.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just that's just the balance of the flat shade.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, for real, put your paddles up? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>the energy vampire? Put up rooms this paddle?

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<v Speaker 3>See?

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<v Speaker 1>I love it? Do you know the energy vampire put

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<v Speaker 1>up my paddle? See that? That's absurd to me. How

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<v Speaker 1>we all know an energy vampire but nobody is the

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<v Speaker 1>nfgy vampire. Do you know what I'm saying? Someone's off totally.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that you somehow docks everyone like you think that.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say that I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Been called an energy vampire in the past, but something

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<v Speaker 2>who's ocouraged me that I've actually been thinking about a

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<v Speaker 2>lot lately. I saw this meme which is like everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about like if you just need me, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>here for you, Da da da, And then there's like

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<v Speaker 2>a very certain what's it called, like demographic of people

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<v Speaker 2>that are very much the people that say that, and

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<v Speaker 2>then like, sorry, I just like can't hold space for

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<v Speaker 2>you right now.

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<v Speaker 3>That's happened to me in the past. I remember once

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<v Speaker 3>I was going through.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit of a bad time and I reach

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<v Speaker 2>out to this woman that I usually have like really

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<v Speaker 2>good chats with she used to be a work colleague,

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<v Speaker 2>and she literally hit me like I was at my

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<v Speaker 2>rock bottom, like I've exhausted my options of people to

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<v Speaker 2>talk with. It's like, look, I really like I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't have space for you right now. And I reckon

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<v Speaker 2>like as much as I was probably the like considered

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<v Speaker 2>the vampire there that is a vampire energy by not

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<v Speaker 2>giving a little a little bit of a like lifeline

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<v Speaker 2>is vampire vibes Because I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know you've got space. You just can't be bothering, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't be fucked. I can say, would yeah, I feel that.

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<v Speaker 1>Look I will, I will say in that instance, though

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<v Speaker 1>words mean things, and you know how for example, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna hear me say if you need me, just

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<v Speaker 1>call me, because I'm the type of person if I

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<v Speaker 1>can sharp for you, I will. Like for me's reference

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<v Speaker 1>on occasion, she's always so surprised in areas where I

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<v Speaker 1>extend myself to other people. I would never do it

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<v Speaker 1>unless I meant it so, like I will drive you

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<v Speaker 1>home after the functional, I will let you borrow that

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<v Speaker 1>thing if I've offered it up myself. If you ask it,

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<v Speaker 1>chances are I'm gonna say no, only because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to create a dynamic where you expect that I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do anything for you, because realistically, when it comes time

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<v Speaker 1>to cash in, like you said, how am I meant

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<v Speaker 1>to know that? Like, yes, I did say that I

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<v Speaker 1>would be there for you, but that was last spring,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a good time for me. We're in

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<v Speaker 1>this spring. Things are more difficult. I don't know, it's tricky.

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<v Speaker 1>So would you say you're more often the energy vampire than.

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<v Speaker 2>The blood donor blood donor.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably vampire.

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<v Speaker 2>I talk about my problems a lot because I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to work through it.

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<v Speaker 3>But as I got older, the more.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm realizing that, like, nothing is free, and if you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing that to someone, they're like, it's not actually exciting for.

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<v Speaker 3>Them to talk about your problems. Do you reckon a favor?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, to an extent, I think if you've got like

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<v Speaker 2>a mutual relationship where you do it, that's fine. But

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<v Speaker 2>otherwise nope, find someone else that's vampire and do vampiring together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Anyway, Yeah, that's on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Sexy. I wanted to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Today about something that I learned yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Via The Guardian.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently there's a thing you can do, not only in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia but around the world where you create your very

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<v Speaker 2>own country.

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<v Speaker 3>How that works? No, I haven't anybody else. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>just you wait.

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<v Speaker 2>So apparently what you can do is you can disband

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<v Speaker 2>from the country that you're in to create your own

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<v Speaker 2>micro nation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. I'm like, what, Okay, let's go back

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<v Speaker 1>to basics for a second. There. What constitutes as a country?

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<v Speaker 1>What makes it not a suburb?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let me give you an example.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen ninety three, there was this guy that lived

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<v Speaker 2>in Mossman can't remember his name, it's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And what he wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do was he wanted to make a driveway from some

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<v Speaker 2>other area through his house, but he need to cut

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<v Speaker 2>through like national park. So he got it approved and

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<v Speaker 2>then a new council came in and the council was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't do that, it's deforestation or whatever. But then

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, nah, I really want to make my driveway.

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<v Speaker 2>He got into a stoush with the council so bad

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<v Speaker 2>that he's like, whatever, I'm going to leave Australia create

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<v Speaker 2>my own legal country so it can become like a

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<v Speaker 2>diplomatic battle between countries.

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<v Speaker 3>Did he win?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Did it cost the council one hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to be disputing or you know, defending these decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>So how does it work?

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<v Speaker 6>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what makes a country a country? If I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make a country today, what am I doing?

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<v Speaker 2>You have to like create a document that says that

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<v Speaker 2>you're disbanding and then.

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<v Speaker 1>So that means you're no longer an Australian citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you get to keep the same citizenship, but

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<v Speaker 2>you also have your own nation and you become like

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<v Speaker 2>a prince or a prince, a prince, so literally in

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<v Speaker 2>this article they've like got quotes from this guy. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like Prince Prince. I keep saying, I want to say

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<v Speaker 2>Prince Andrew or Prince Philip. Who's another prince that's not them?

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<v Speaker 1>Are keen? If you know? You mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? But yeah, so would you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you haven't told me how. I keep asking, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you do it? What is the country? When can

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<v Speaker 1>we get it done? You're like, so this guy must

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<v Speaker 1>man and he said, if it's simple, I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's like slightly difficult, like you know, getting a

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<v Speaker 1>new passport, I'll do it. Anything harder, I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 1>it pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really easy. But do I know how to? Of

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<v Speaker 3>course not.

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<v Speaker 2>Something else you'll learn in this recording is that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe in Google.

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<v Speaker 3>It's purely vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be offended if for me doesn't fact check, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just what she's doing. Big Icon Energy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time for one of my favorite segment now.

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<v Speaker 2>When Flex and I are conceptualizing our show with Kita,

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<v Speaker 2>we were all sitting in a room with a whiteboard.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming up with different ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>We started with a thing called sibling rivalries where we'd

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<v Speaker 2>pit two celebrity siblings up against each other.

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<v Speaker 3>That lasted about a Week's.

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<v Speaker 1>One of your ideas, though, like give it some love

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<v Speaker 1>because you loved it at the time, and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, it's not here anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all I was thinking about was bart and Lisa.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can only do that once once. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>really rinse that anyway. This segment is called love Line,

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<v Speaker 2>where people text in or message in to us with

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<v Speaker 2>their love relationship problems and.

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<v Speaker 3>We give them.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it is solicited advice yea, but it's certainly

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<v Speaker 2>not that valuable in some respects.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>But we have one that was sent in by one

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<v Speaker 2>of our guests here in the recording. I believe her

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<v Speaker 2>name is Charlotte, and we have given her a microphone. Now, Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 2>would you mind standing up?

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're right in the eyeline of.

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<v Speaker 1>It, not the standing h yah, that's so Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 3>Yay, Hi Charlotte. Look you can just launch right into it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I definitely need some advice, sort of want to

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<v Speaker 5>reconnect with like an ex boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>It ended on like good terms, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Mutually goes to each other, but it just happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Sexy just sort of want to reconnect.

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<v Speaker 5>We're really like close kind of twins, like same personalities,

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<v Speaker 5>same interests, but I just don't really know how to

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<v Speaker 5>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an ex boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, how many I feel like you're really concerned?

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<v Speaker 1>Is actually it's because my left eye won't stop twitching,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm having to like emote extra to keep it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like anyway, we'll talk about later. How many months we together?

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<v Speaker 1>Like six? Heckic? Okay, all right, please take a seat, Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>If Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 2>In an ideal world, ideally he's listening. If he's a

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<v Speaker 2>well cultured gent, he's definitely listening. Okay, I love this, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like the stakes are high. So in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>no breakup is ever mutual.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever, put your paddle up if you agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's like forty five percent of the room.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, the eyes are saying at least seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that no relationships and I think like mutually

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<v Speaker 2>there's always someone instigating it, whether or not it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like a ten percent instigation. It's a vibe that you

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<v Speaker 2>both catch, you both got together. One person was chasing

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<v Speaker 2>one person chases out.

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<v Speaker 1>I often think the person who says it's mutual didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do the breakup because as for me, when i'm I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>we broke up, and then I'd be like, I broke

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<v Speaker 1>up with them just so you know you're savage. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel really good about reconnecting with X's just for the plot. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think life is too short and people's stories dating

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<v Speaker 1>stories haven't been good since high school. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>like back when I was eighteen seventeen, everything was juicy.

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<v Speaker 1>The stakes were so high. People were willing to risk shane, guilt,

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<v Speaker 1>fear anything for romance. I think now we're either cutting

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<v Speaker 1>the cord too soon or not allowing room for playfulness.

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<v Speaker 1>So I definitely think slide right through. I'm a bit

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<v Speaker 1>feral in my dating approach if I'm on it, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would just be straight in the text message with

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<v Speaker 1>you miss me, question mark, or or I know you've

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<v Speaker 1>been thinking about me full stop wow, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>got it, you got it. And then if they're like, ha,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? Be like ha, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about? You can't take a joke. It used

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<v Speaker 1>to be funny.

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<v Speaker 2>This is My biggest red flag the approach and then

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<v Speaker 2>the oh, I was just joking.

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf, it doesn't hit, doesn't hit. I'm not gonna embarrass myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I got one more question for you before

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<v Speaker 2>we go. Is he like a shy guy or is

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<v Speaker 2>he more forward?

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<v Speaker 5>Should?

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you got two options here. First option

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<v Speaker 2>is send him this podcast. However, I think you run

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<v Speaker 2>the risk of making him feel too seen, because then

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<v Speaker 2>you feel back together again, and it's like on recording.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people get weird sometimes I tell stories about people.

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<v Speaker 2>Once I told a story about my sister on the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally didn't speak to me for a month.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't even bad.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the story? Quick recap?

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<v Speaker 2>Something about an expo friend that I hated, so like

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<v Speaker 2>fair game? Maybe just do that? Hey, maybe just say

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<v Speaker 2>I asked for advice in a public forum.

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<v Speaker 3>I got some interesting advice. What would you prefer me

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<v Speaker 3>to do? Slide in with a do you miss me?

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<v Speaker 3>Or is this done?

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<v Speaker 1>That is so meta because then he has to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. I find the find the timestamp, tune in,

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<v Speaker 1>come back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too difficult, you know what, though, it is so

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<v Speaker 2>nice to hear someone speak about you in a recorded format,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Think this through Free for Me is always doing role play,

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<v Speaker 1>where like you ask her a very earnest question and

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<v Speaker 1>she starts pulling abstract concepts. Very simple. Let's rephrase the

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<v Speaker 1>question if your ex was going to slide back in

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite X? We all have one? Yep, do we

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<v Speaker 1>all have one? Paddles up? Okay, tough crowd.

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<v Speaker 3>We need a camera on everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>So people don't have a favorite X. It's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>But if your favorite X slid back in, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>approach you'd want?

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<v Speaker 2>I think mine's too far gone. Maybe just you were

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<v Speaker 2>the best I ever had?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see what I'm talking about? Okay, it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think we've given enough advice for one day.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you confirm which she'll be going with? It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a competition, but.

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<v Speaker 3>See I get that FLEXI. You might not get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And see maybe I can't. I just don't do I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do KOI I can't do subtle. Maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a control freak when it comes to romance.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's nothing I can't think of anything worse than

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<v Speaker 1>the anxiety of when you know that you like someone

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<v Speaker 1>and then you allow things to just like not happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to get through the cycle quickly. Be in,

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what's happening. If it's not on, be out next.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to like get too comfortable in the unknown.

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<v Speaker 1>Why your eyes glazing over?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm thinking, and I think this will

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<v Speaker 3>be for a later time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think both approaches they're going in quickly to yeat

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<v Speaker 2>out and not giving it any space for gray, and

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<v Speaker 2>also never approaching and playing KOI are the set two

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<v Speaker 2>sides of the same coin, which is anxious avoidant, dip in,

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<v Speaker 2>dip out, need to know an answer then want to

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<v Speaker 2>yeat away.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just avoidant, but thank you, I won't stop talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this twitching. I think only because I'm not a hyperchondriac.

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<v Speaker 1>If anything, I'm on the extreme other end of the

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<v Speaker 1>spectrum where despite not drinking enough water and living a

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<v Speaker 1>preservative based life style, I feel invincible all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, skin looks great, always got energy, whatever, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I went out like last weekend and Mum got

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<v Speaker 1>near it naturally. But since then my left eye has

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<v Speaker 1>been twitching and I'm like, have I done irreversible damage?

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<v Speaker 1>We do have a doctor in the audience, So what

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<v Speaker 1>would you say.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that you're tired and stress.

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<v Speaker 1>That's whatever. I think you're tired. I'm like, again, what

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<v Speaker 1>can we do that information? Give me someone the work away.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're stress?

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<v Speaker 1>And like, I hear, but I'm not listening the ivy

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<v Speaker 1>twitching anyway, please go on.

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<v Speaker 2>So as part of our show here powered by Bond's

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<v Speaker 2>Big Icon Energy, we need to ask the question what

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<v Speaker 2>stops people from having big icon energy. I think one

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<v Speaker 2>of the first steps in coming to terms with your

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<v Speaker 2>flaws is maybe deciding do I have big like on energy?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I being a bit shy? Am I overconfident? So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good question to ask yourself. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>relate this back to sexiness because I found this really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting TikTok by a guy called Achille More and it

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<v Speaker 2>is the sexiness theory with a picture of Bellahadide.

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<v Speaker 4>Recently, I've been thinking a lot about like what makes

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<v Speaker 4>a person attractive, like what makes a person sexy? And

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<v Speaker 4>I think I've come to like a really weird conclusion

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<v Speaker 4>about it because I think, for like a long time

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<v Speaker 4>in my life personally, I have not felt like hot

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<v Speaker 4>in my own skin in like a really weird way,

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<v Speaker 4>or like sometimes I would look in the mirror and

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<v Speaker 4>I would feel like I was attractive, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily feel sexy. And I think that there's a big

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<v Speaker 4>difference in feeling attractive and feeling sexy. I saw this

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<v Speaker 4>video recently where Courtney was saying, like, the times in

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<v Speaker 4>my life where I was the skinniest were the times

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<v Speaker 4>in my life where I was the most unhappy. And

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<v Speaker 4>I've noticed that about myself too, because like, and here's.

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<v Speaker 1>My thesis, I think sexy.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've got the idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, humanity more than anything. If you treat yourself like

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<v Speaker 4>a robot and you let yourself eat like two calories

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<v Speaker 4>a day and you give yourself these insane workout, it's

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<v Speaker 4>almost treating your body as if it's like this machine

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<v Speaker 4>that needs to be conquered and not as like a

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<v Speaker 4>human that deserves like empathy and love.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's something about getting to the point, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it could.

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<v Speaker 6>Be half the time initially off the bat, what do

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<v Speaker 6>you guys, do you agree with his hypothesis? What is

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<v Speaker 6>the hypothesis that sexiness is not attributed to wait and

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<v Speaker 6>like that. What I got from that is that essentially,

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<v Speaker 6>when you are restricting, or when you're in a body

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<v Speaker 6>that's not that's you get by means that are like

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<v Speaker 6>starvation and stuff, you become less sexy because you're less

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<v Speaker 6>human and it's more human to be more yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you.

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<v Speaker 3>I get anybody else get that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the vibe?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Can we can we throw to the audience for

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<v Speaker 2>this one? It would anyone be comfortable giving their hypothesis out?

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<v Speaker 3>Or is that a bit rough? Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm actually training to be a psychiatrist. I think that

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<v Speaker 7>it kind of comes down to insecurity, right, Like you're

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<v Speaker 7>insecure enough about your body image that you're doing all

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<v Speaker 7>these things, or like your sense of self will determine

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<v Speaker 7>a lot about your icon energy, how others perceive you,

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<v Speaker 7>how you perceive yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very convoluted.

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<v Speaker 3>It was comal, wasn't it. I'm a bit confused.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the issue with everyone being a publisher these days. No, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what stops people from having big icon energy is this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that they're not recognizing. They've already centered an idea

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<v Speaker 1>of icon status, hotness, sexiness that is separate to them.

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<v Speaker 1>And so as long as you are not the center

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<v Speaker 1>of what you believe to be the physical manifestation of

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<v Speaker 1>like hotness, sexiness, then you'll never have that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it one takes a level of delusion to

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<v Speaker 1>accept yourself as you are and say like, yeah, I'm hot,

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<v Speaker 1>or a big commitment to you know, centering or becoming

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<v Speaker 1>what is the standard. But either way it requires like

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<v Speaker 1>a choice and conviction from yourself to see it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when you start getting validated for it, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, it was always meant to be this

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<v Speaker 1>way to begin with.

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<v Speaker 2>Whichever one you choose, Yeah, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's get him to figure that out. Video out again.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get the point. I want to understand

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<v Speaker 1>it. It didn't come through.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll send him this and ask for notes.

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