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Speaker 1: Mom.

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Speaker 2: Always always be careful.

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Speaker 3: Love those umboo.

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Speaker 4: Let well use your head, they will tear you lack

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Speaker 4: a paper talk.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 5: I'm Amanda and I'm Remy.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to It's Layer.

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Speaker 5: We're in a long distance friendship that started over twenty

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Speaker 5: years ago when we were in high school.

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Speaker 3: We'll be talking about all things life, love, family, anything

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Speaker 3: and everything else under the sun.

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Speaker 5: Delve deeper with us because in life, you know, Jine

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Speaker 5: my layers.

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Speaker 3: Welcome everyone. Today, we have such a special episode for

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Speaker 3: you all. I'm sure by now you've heard of the

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Speaker 3: amazing audio drama Private Affairs, and we've got some of

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Speaker 3: the cast with us today and of course the creator

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Speaker 3: deeper into what we're calling Layered a Fairs, the custo

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Speaker 3: and crew of Private Affairs. Yes, welcome guys. So we've

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Speaker 3: got the creator, the writer, the director, the enter, the producer,

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Speaker 3: Christine Kicks, High Kicks. How are you going? Hey, ladies,

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Speaker 3: what's up?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Welcome?

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Speaker 3: I was so excited to have you.

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Speaker 8: This is so exciting.

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Speaker 4: I'm really curious to hear what everyone else will say

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Speaker 4: as you get into these topics.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, just like Tom not your fo todam listening.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Also got ron Kat, who plays the character of Luke.

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Speaker 9: How you going wrong?

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Speaker 10: I'm good good. It's wonderful to see such beautiful faces.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of beautiful faces, we've got swinging Chinooka, who plays

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Speaker 3: the character of Mattie.

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Speaker 6: How you going I'm so good? This is such a

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Speaker 6: cool experience. I feel like I listen to podcasts all

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Speaker 6: be on this is exciting.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're a voice actor, so you're probably used to

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Speaker 3: hearing your own voice, but when you first heard of

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Speaker 6: I don't think you can ever get used to it.

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Speaker 6: So when I had to listen back to the podcast,

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Speaker 6: I had to pep talk myself to not judge myself

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Speaker 6: because I feel like everyone on this podcast has such

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Speaker 2: Sexy.

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Speaker 6: I listened, I'm like, come on, it's no me, but

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Speaker 6: I got out of my head and just focused on

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Speaker 6: the the show as a whole, which is nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to get into that for sure. And

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Speaker 3: last but not least, you got Greti kai Janny who

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Speaker 3: plays the druel character of Ton Dy and also PJ Welcome, Hello, How.

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Speaker 7: Are you good? Thank you for having me. It's going

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Speaker 7: to be interesting and quite a I'm quite interested to

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Speaker 7: hear from the people who've been consuming this content because,

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Speaker 7: as you know, it's inder season two, so I'm actually

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Speaker 7: very interested to hear how those who've listened to season

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Speaker 7: one and where your allegiances are. And I'm actually very

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Speaker 1: And then, yeah, this is going to be good.

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Speaker 7: I'm quite interested to hear from the consumers. This is great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're definitely gonna dove deepot on it. If you

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Speaker 3: don't know, Private Affairs of an award winning romantic drama

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Speaker 3: deal that was written by Christine. As we just said,

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Speaker 3: she describes it herself as TV for your ears pigs.

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Speaker 3: Can you please summarize what you think this audio drama

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Speaker 3: is all about for people who.

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Speaker 5: Are living under rocks, who have who have not less

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so Private Affairs follows the story, well, at least

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Speaker 4: it starts off following v who is a recent transplant

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Speaker 4: So yeah, basically in a Nutchell, it's about dating and

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Speaker 5: And you know, if I can ask what inspired you

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Speaker 4: So the story started out as a blog. So it

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Speaker 8: Like that's boring? And look at you now here we are.

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Speaker 3: Ron, What do you think has been the most enlightening

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Speaker 10: You know, you can play so many different characters because

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Speaker 10: It was very easy to read and it looked very real,

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Speaker 10: We introduced Garrett and Simba and everyone else, and I

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Speaker 5: The way it's written, it's so natural, so it feels

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Speaker 5: I totally get that. And do you feel like Luke

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Speaker 5: And do you feel like Lukes misunderstood and if so,

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Speaker 10: The bankrobery scene and the paragliding I gets crazy, You're told.

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Speaker 10: I think the reason why this writer the writing is

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Speaker 10: the beauty with the writing. It's up and down, up

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Speaker 3: It's good that you brought up Mattie because I think

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Speaker 9: What like you, Matti?

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Speaker 3: you at SUNGI to get to know MATCHI not just

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Speaker 6: It was a really interesting process for me because it

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Speaker 5: She's ready to live well, she wants to explore and

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Speaker 7: The context that most people don't have is I always believe,

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Speaker 7: She shows me two characters. Tondy automatically has so much.

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Speaker 7: So it's been fantastic coming back into it, finding something

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Speaker 5: That's so dope, and kudos to you just your story.

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Speaker 5: And I think, again, this is why we do our podcast,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so like okay, so spoiler okay, So the character

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Speaker 5: Life a movie, trying your life to know I get you.

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Speaker 8: Like it doesn't matter if it's real.

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Speaker 3: The biography, No it is.

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Speaker 5: It's not exactly creative license. That's like you so much

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Speaker 7: I just say something from me just on that, just

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Speaker 7: I said, Christine's got to learn about me really quickly

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Speaker 7: call it. She'll tell you, like if you look at

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Speaker 3: Sorry I didn't back.

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Speaker 7: You see. But to the point of what, like what

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Speaker 7: But it takes a lot. So that's why I champion

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Speaker 4: And what's like for you know, absolutely absolutely and shoot

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Speaker 5: Start sliding it to DMS and all, yeah, but shoot

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Speaker 5: your shot for sure. Coming back to you, do you

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Speaker 5: in this season, it's a lot about that conversation between

440
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Speaker 5: Tonday and Mate around having Children's.

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Speaker 7: A good question like when I when I look at

442
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 7: Tondy and to Tundy today, Yeah, tunder eye, and when

443
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 7: I look at thunder Ie you equantum, thank you. I

444
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 7: think that ultimately he has so many flaws and challenges

445
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 7: which he is struggling with himself. There's family pressure, there's

446
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 7: personal pressure, There's there's words he says, you know, always

447
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 7: he keeps talking about your embarrassing me. You know, he

448
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 7: keeps referring to this whole you know, how long are

449
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 7: you going to make me? Or you'll be making a

450
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 7: fool of me? He does have an image perception. There

451
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 7: is there is a strong presence of internal battles for

452
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 7: Tundy about how he's perceived. But I think a lot

453
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Speaker 7: of that's got to do with it's internal, really, and

454
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Speaker 7: the external is probably how I get to express it

455
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 7: or how I get to how I get to how

456
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 7: it manifests, I guess, But it's internal a lot of it.

457
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 7: So it's kind of it's kind of like it all

458
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 7: collides into into one world. But it's mainly internal I feel,

459
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 7: and then the external stuff is this noise, and the

460
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 7: noise doesn't allow him time to process the internal. So

461
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 7: with that added context, that's why he's so erratical. That's

462
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 7: why you know he can be so sweet and so loving,

463
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 7: Like there's there's always struggle, is tension, and then there's

464
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 7: also like and then there's also you know, no tension,

465
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 7: so it's a constant battle. I think. I don't know

466
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Speaker 7: if that answers your question.

467
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Speaker 5: No, it does, and and I like how you you

468
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Speaker 5: mentioned that the internal sort of turmoil or whatever he's

469
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Speaker 5: going through because of the societal noise, he can't even

470
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Speaker 5: work that out for himself. So that's an interesting, interesting

471
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Speaker 5: take on to thank you.

472
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Speaker 3: This season, we did see it what we deemed a

473
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Speaker 3: fan seeing it turn into more darker themes, obviously addressing

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Speaker 3: mental health, domestic violence, sexual assault, you know, or even

475
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 3: just the drama you face in the workplace, you know,

476
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Speaker 3: And we just want to ask kicks, you know, what,

477
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Speaker 3: was it intentional they should this season be a little

478
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Speaker 3: bit darker in that way, and if so, for each

479
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Speaker 3: of the characters, how did you guys see that elevation

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Speaker 3: in terms of your performance to convey that correctly and accurately.

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Speaker 10: Hm.

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Speaker 8: Intentional.

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Speaker 4: That's an interesting word, because I feel like my writing

484
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 4: process is a little bit.

485
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Speaker 8: How can I explain it.

486
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Speaker 4: It's it's an organic process, and it's sort of like

487
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Speaker 4: I call it like dancing with God in the sense

488
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 4: of like if you've ever done partner dancing, you know,

489
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: and you're the follower, you're supposed to, Yeah, you need

490
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 4: to move your body. You need to like, you know,

491
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 4: know how to do the basic dance moves.

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Speaker 7: Right.

493
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Speaker 4: So that's understanding story structure. That's understanding you know, doing

494
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Speaker 4: your research all of that stuff.

495
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Speaker 8: You need to have the basics down.

496
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Speaker 4: But really I'm taking cues from the muse, the.

497
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Speaker 8: Universe, you know.

498
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Speaker 4: I'm just listening to whatever comes into my head, you know.

499
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Speaker 4: So the process of writing actually was like it took

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Speaker 4: It's hard for me to actually say how long it

501
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 4: took for me to write the script, because for a

502
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 4: period of like six months, I was just I had

503
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 4: like a notebook where I was just writing down random

504
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: lines of dialogue, like something would just pop into my head.

505
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, let me write that down. I don't

506
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: know who's going to say that. Sometimes I didn't know

507
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: which character was going to say it, but I was like, Okay,

508
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 4: somehow this is going to maybe manifest into something. So anyway,

509
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 4: so after that, I had like a huge pile of

510
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 4: like random things that I then started to organize, you know,

511
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Speaker 4: into like a story.

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Speaker 8: Structure almost like thing.

513
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, it kind of happened organically, and even I

514
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: had doubts about the direction that the story was going in,

515
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 4: you know, because I was like, you know, this is

516
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 4: quite risky because it is darker than season one. I

517
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: was really concerned that are people going to vibe with

518
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 4: it still because people are used to one thing and

519
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: now we're taking a sharp turn, you know, into drama.

520
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: But I really just had to trust the source and

521
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: follow the journey. Yeah so intentional, I guess so. But

522
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Speaker 4: I do think that it was a good lesson for

523
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 4: me as well when it came down to actually producing it,

524
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Speaker 4: because I learned that, yeah, drama is harder to produce

525
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: in my view, Or maybe it was because I understood

526
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 4: more of like what I was doing in terms of

527
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 4: like the story structure and why certain characters had to

528
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 4: come up a certain way in particular scene for the

529
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Speaker 4: whole thing to actually make sense, which made it. Yeah,

530
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Speaker 4: I think a little bit more challenging to actually execute

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Speaker 4: in production as well as in post production, in editing,

532
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Speaker 4: as well as the sound design, because the sound is

533
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Speaker 4: doing a lot of storytelling itself.

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Speaker 8: But that's my take. I don't know if the other.

535
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Speaker 4: Guys agree with that, especially I Ron and TUNGI you

536
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: guys did season one. I don't know if you guys

537
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 4: felt the difference in terms of like the level of

538
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 4: difficulty for your performances.

539
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Speaker 6: I think I remember having this conversation while recording, and

540
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Speaker 6: you were worried about the shift, and I think with

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Speaker 6: it kind of does a wonderful thing, like shows like

542
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Speaker 6: Afterlife do where you can't have the light without the dark,

543
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Speaker 6: and a lot of great comedy shines a light on

544
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Speaker 6: the dark. And I feel like while doing that, you

545
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Speaker 6: bring with that vulnerability, bring in more p You've reached

546
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 6: more people because you've been more vulnerable, and I feel

547
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 6: like everything that you touched on helped someone heal. Like

548
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 6: maybe they clicked on that podcast that day thinking like, yes,

549
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 6: this is my like feel good, I'm gonna laugh, and

550
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 6: yes they will laugh and they will have fun while

551
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 6: listening to it. But they did acknowledge something they still

552
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 6: need to heal through in that time. So I think

553
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 6: it was necessary. And if something's just light all the way,

554
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 6: it's as an actor, it's not as fulfilling like I

555
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 6: love when you get the nitty gritty dark roles and

556
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 6: you have to go there and explore something you've never

557
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 6: personally explored, but knowing that there's such a greater purpose

558
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 6: at the end of it, which is hopefully a lot

559
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 6: of healing for a lot of people's. I loved it.

560
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Speaker 6: It was it was just the meat. Looking at that script,

561
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Speaker 6: I was like, this is a meal, a feast for

562
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Speaker 6: an actor dead and run for you.

563
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Speaker 1: I'm actually going to agree. I disagree with both of you, ladies.

564
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Speaker 1: Actually I'm going to go again.

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Speaker 7: Oh yes.

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Speaker 10: The reason as to why I'm going to disagree is

567
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 10: because I didn't find it darker. I actually found it

568
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 10: very easy to go into season two because it flows

569
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 10: so damn well. Because with season one it is so exciting.

570
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 10: You know, you've got two brand new characters. It's very exciting.

571
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Speaker 10: We're starting a new world. You know, when you're single

572
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 10: meeting a new person, it is very exciting. The romances

573
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Speaker 10: they're figuring out who these people are.

574
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Speaker 1: You're not going to jump into something.

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Speaker 10: You know, if you go on a date with someone

576
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 10: and you blurt out all your insecurities and stuff like

577
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 10: that and all your worst things.

578
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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you do, I don't know, but for me,

579
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Speaker 1: that's a bit of a red pla. I like to

580
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: enjoy the person, you know. I like to have fun.

581
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Speaker 10: I like to be a rombunctious and while to do

582
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Speaker 10: all these crazy things.

583
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Speaker 1: Season one was we're exploring v and Luke and it's

584
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Speaker 1: exciting all these new people.

585
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Speaker 10: Season two, when they know each other, then life comes

586
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 10: into play. The season two, that's when we start seeing,

587
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 10: as you were saying, Sooni, the nitty gritty stuff. So

588
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Speaker 10: I think it didn't take a darker turn. I think

589
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 10: it just flowed really well. I think that's just what

590
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 10: life is. You know, when you're in a long relationship

591
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 10: with someone, you start seeing some bad things, you start

592
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 10: seeing some good things. And again season two, sure there

593
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 10: was some bad things and good things. But to reiterate

594
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Speaker 10: on Christine's writing, that's just how good it is.

595
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Speaker 1: It's up and down.

596
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Speaker 10: If it was up the entire way we get a

597
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 10: rehash of season one, we'd probably I don't know, if

598
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 10: we'd lose more viewers, if we gain more viewers.

599
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Speaker 1: For me personally, I just keep comparing it to season one.

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Speaker 10: But for season two, it just naturally goes into life. Yeah,

601
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Speaker 10: I think, very very easily. So for me, I didn't

602
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Speaker 10: This is going to sound weird. I didn't find too

603
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 10: much difference. It was just re entering that world physically.

604
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Speaker 10: The only thing that was different was physically meeting Garrick

605
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 10: and sim and being in a new room, in a

606
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Speaker 10: new context and new equipment. But I don't care for that.

607
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 10: It was just the work. It was just being in

608
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Speaker 10: a room and connecting with these people.

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Speaker 1: Rather, Christine, did we do that during COVID? Was that

610
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? It was a bust, say you guys recorded in COVID.

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Speaker 1: That's wild?

613
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 3: Yes, who knows.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it was in a little four by four kind

615
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Speaker 10: of bedroom.

616
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it right there.

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Speaker 7: I knew.

618
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Speaker 1: I just don't remember that.

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Speaker 3: It looks brighter today.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of that, I think, you know, Ron, you're talking

621
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Speaker 5: about a natural progression, and we also, you know, got

622
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Speaker 5: to see real themes brought out, and we got to

623
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 5: also get a lot of backstory in some of the relationships,

624
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 5: like for v and TAFF and one of that was

625
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 5: obviously PJ coming into the into the picture and for

626
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 5: you got Kai. How was it playing PJ And how

627
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 5: did you find juggling the two different characters as a

628
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 5: voice actor And when you're seeing these two characters and

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Speaker 5: you're like, okay, thanks Christine, I'm just going in all

630
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 5: in on these you know, really conflicting characters. I think

631
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Speaker 5: they bring out a lot of you know, emotions for

632
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Speaker 5: the listener. How was that for you getting to to

633
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Speaker 5: play those two roles.

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Speaker 7: I have a question when you did get to consume

635
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 7: the PJ see and can you take me back to

636
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 7: you as a consumer?

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Speaker 2: I read.

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00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 7: Can you? Can? You know? The reason why I say

639
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 7: this right is do you guys touch on something which

640
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 7: is quite beautiful in terms of I love the writing

641
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 7: in this season because it touches on so many things

642
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 7: that people call duck and people say they're not so light.

643
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 7: But one of the biggest issues I have is there's

644
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 7: not enough conversations happening about this. There's just not enough

645
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 7: conversations happening about things that and not to go entirely duck.

646
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 7: Like I went home in February and it is a

647
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 7: love when I was talking to people and like, suicide

648
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 7: rate is ridiculous at the moment, you know, like there's

649
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 7: there's real shit going on right now, but it's just

650
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 7: not being discussed or it's just kind of it's the

651
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 7: way it is. So that's why for me, this show,

652
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 7: the way it does it and the way it presents

653
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 7: these topics of that, throwing it in your face but

654
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 7: giving you enough of it, especially if you're not exposed

655
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 7: to it. Having said that, you will all probably have

656
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 7: a friend who has gone through a scenario of like

657
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 7: a PG situation or if not a friend of story

658
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 7: you've heard what was that like for you as a

659
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 7: as a as a viewer. Then I'll go back to

660
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 7: your to your question. But I just wanted to know

661
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 7: because I think it's it's one of the strongest scenes

662
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 7: in terms of some traumatic ship that we've got to

663
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 7: deal with. What was that was? What was that like

664
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 7: experiencing that? Like if you can share, because that would

665
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 7: be great, like to just understand or just hear from

666
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 7: you me personally.

667
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: Like with our podcast this, the reason we have it

668
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: is to discuss things that Zimbabweans don't want to discuss,

669
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: and obviously a lot of our issues. A lot of

670
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: our topics I should say that we brought up this

671
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: season actually aligned pretty well with what was happening on

672
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 3: private affairs. So we're like kicks, like on.

673
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 11: Some lethods were touching, We're touching, We're touching your coat,

674
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 11: you know, like just because.

675
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: But then it's it's funny when we spoke on domestic violence,

676
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: when we spoke on mental health, the reaction and episode

677
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 3: like that would get from listeners as opposed to talking

678
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: about fashion or film or is. And I suppose that's

679
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 3: where the word starts to come in, because it's stuff

680
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: we just put in the closet, so it's hidden, it's

681
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 3: not seen, it's not talked about. And you know when

682
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: I was really proud to hear that scene, which sounds

683
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: so odd to say, but I was proud because I

684
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: was like, finally, in a way people can digest, in

685
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: the way people can you can't listen to that episode

686
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: and go hum, you know, like what a cooler moment.

687
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to be like, guys, what did you

688
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: think about PJ? You know what I mean, Like, there's

689
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: no way you can. And also because of the way

690
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: we were introduced to him, just in that moment and

691
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: then taken like it wasn't like you can latch onto

692
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 3: anything else. If you're gonna talk about PJ, You're gonna

693
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: talk about that. It's hand in hand, which speaks to

694
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: the brilliance of Kickses writing as well, because it's it's

695
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: consumed in a way that feels safe and for a

696
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 3: podcast that obviously probably has quite a number of Zimbabweans listening,

697
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: it's in a way that can drive conversation. So it

698
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: all just for me. I was like, proud Mama, mom

699
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: and Kicks you're doing the thing and like yeah, and

700
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: like I guess yeah. PJ was literally everyone has a

701
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: PJ in their lives. Every female has a p which

702
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: is so sad to say, but at the same time,

703
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: it was like if you've not personally gone through it,

704
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: you for sure have someone who's close to you who has.

705
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: So it felt relatable in that way where it was like, man,

706
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: this happens way too often and what do we do

707
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: about it?

708
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely, And I could relate so well to being young.

709
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 5: I think they were teenagers, right. It's like the high

710
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 5: school mons or going you know, and that excitement and

711
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 5: like you're with this person and you don't really know

712
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 5: how to process those feelings and the situation because everyone's like,

713
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 5: oh you guys, I don't know. I could relate to

714
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 5: being a younger me who didn't have the vocabulary or

715
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 5: the knowledge or the ability to be like this actually

716
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 5: wasn't okay, just kind of like feeling stuck and kind

717
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 5: of trying to just brush it away and deal with it.

718
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 5: I think I could relate to it in that way,

719
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 5: like I know, you know, you know someone who's gone

720
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 5: through that. You know, you've been in situations where it

721
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 5: was just like that was weird, like not knowing how

722
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 5: to deal with that. Yeah, I think you did it

723
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 5: so beautifully because I was like, I know that position

724
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 5: or I know that feeling in some way, shape or form,

725
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 5: and you know, we in zimity. You know the experience

726
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 5: as a girl of being cat called, you know the

727
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 5: experience as a woman. You just know that you've experienced

728
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 5: some level of male interaction that made you uncomfortable and

729
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 5: having to do with it and just live with it.

730
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 5: I don't know how to explain so with that on

731
00:40:55,080 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 5: no consequence, no consequence, so living hearing that, I was like, oh,

732
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 5: I get that, And unfortunately, in V's case, she'd been

733
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 5: in a relationship with PJ right like they well they

734
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 5: were together. So it's like even more complex because I

735
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 5: know our society would be like, ah, so what did

736
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 5: you do to for to go like this? Or you're

737
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 5: in a relationship, this is what it is? Well what

738
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 5: did you expect? So it was so brilliantly done.

739
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 6: So yeah, that sentence alone, what did you expect? Oh yeah,

740
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 6: I've heard that so many times, Right, what did you expect?

741
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 5: Oh? If you go out, if you want to have

742
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 5: a good time, you're calling, You're asking for it. It's

743
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 5: almost like this, Yeah, So can I.

744
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 4: Just say shout out to to Gary and Ratti for

745
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 4: really yeah working that scene. There were so many elements

746
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 4: of that scene that we like during the process, we

747
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: had to kind of like break it down, you know,

748
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 4: to to get the steps right and all so accent.

749
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: You know, that's another part of it. And then yeah,

750
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 4: you know the sound effects as well, the kissing. You know,

751
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 4: guys editing kissing sounds to make them sound realistic.

752
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 8: I spend a long time.

753
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: Editing kissing.

754
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: I made up with myself so many times.

755
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: But I will say I would say Ron does some

756
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: pretty good fake kissing.

757
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 6: Sounds he's run the back talent, my party talent and

758
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 6: high school.

759
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 10: High school was tough for me. It was just looking

760
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 10: in the mirror, do this, you can do this? Oh,

761
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 10: thank you, thank you.

762
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 4: I think it was a very tough scene and it

763
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 4: was by far the scene that took me the longest

764
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 4: to edit.

765
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 8: I think it's really two weeks to edit minute scene.

766
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, having been in the room with you, I feel

767
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 6: like you you would have made it great because you

768
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 6: made the room safe and you're directing was really safe.

769
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 6: So it's a difficult scene and I haven't been had

770
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 6: to do it, but I just know that you would have.

771
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 6: You would have made it feel less triggering in that moment.

772
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 7: I do need to give a shout out, like like

773
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 7: Christine was saying, to say v because a character you

774
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 7: know what I'm talking about in terms of that scene.

775
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 7: To go back to your question, I'm I'm nothing like him.

776
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 7: So when I saw it, I was like, I know

777
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 7: so many people like this. That's that's the fucked up

778
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 7: part of it where I was like, well, I know

779
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 7: this guy is because I've been in situations where I'm like, okay,

780
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 7: that's just not okay. And like you said, when you

781
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 7: were a great conversation with Christine a while back where

782
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 7: I was talking about like being from zim and having

783
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 7: multiple siblings, and I was explaining it to someone in

784
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 7: Australia and they would giving me there, giving me the oh,

785
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 7: how was that for you? You know, having you know

786
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 7: kids from you know, outside the marriage. I'm like, you,

787
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 7: guys have to understand, there's not an exception. This is

788
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 7: a norm. But at the same time, but doesn't make

789
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 7: it fine. It's one of the things that makes it complicated.

790
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 7: Why I say, we do have traumatic issues that we

791
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 7: don't know how to process because it's just so, hey,

792
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 7: this is everyday business. It doesn't make you special, and

793
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 7: it's kind of yeah, let's keep it moving. But it's like,

794
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 7: hold on, but no one gives me a chance to

795
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 7: explore how I feel about this. And depending on when

796
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 7: you're told this information, you're too young to understand or

797
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 7: to have a voice back to your parents to say, wait,

798
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 7: I need to challenge you on that. So it's not

799
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 7: only trauma in that sense, but you can't process it.

800
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 7: So by the time you get to a stage you're like,

801
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 7: but hold on, that's not okay. Well, there's so much

802
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 7: other shit that's thrown into us. And hence why I

803
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 7: say these characters are living people that we know or

804
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 7: there are a context of us to some degree. PJ

805
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 7: fortunately is not someone who I am, but like I said,

806
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 7: I see this and I can identify with the person.

807
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 7: And what made it easier to do was my partner

808
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 7: in the scene was so encouraging to be like, no, bro, like,

809
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 7: we're not we're not we're not half doing this going

810
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 7: in like you know, like we will make him feel uncomfortable,

811
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 7: like and it was actually empowering to do that because

812
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 7: he's not me, so there's no there's there's no too

813
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 7: far when you're playing a TJ, I mean a PJ,

814
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 7: because well, I can throw anything there. It's up to

815
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 7: Christine then to say, Okay, I got to pull it

816
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 7: back or not pick it up. Let's go. So it's

817
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 7: actually fun playing a PJ in that small context because

818
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 7: you have so much should I say you have, you

819
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 7: have so much breath to do and to express or

820
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 7: to explore. But at the same time you have to

821
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 7: make sure that it's it's it's within a safe and

822
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 7: it's it's it's it's within the intent of achieving the

823
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 7: outcome of it. And yeah, so PJ was fun because

824
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 7: I could I know I'm not him, so I'm like, Okay,

825
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 7: well I can play this guy. But it's also empowering

826
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 7: then because it gives me the opportunity to hear these

827
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 7: stories because I don't know many girls I spoke to

828
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 7: it like that age where who went through that and

829
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 7: I was mature enough, Like you said, everyone has that experience.

830
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 7: I say, a tool set. I say, we don't have

831
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 7: the tools at that time to be able to do

832
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 7: the task, and now I have the tools to be

833
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 7: like I can have this conversation with women because I've

834
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 7: taken enough of this, so I've seen our process enough

835
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 7: of this as a human being and as a person

836
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 7: to engage with you. So I don't know if that

837
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 7: answers the whole PJ thing, but yeah, can.

838
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 4: I just add about the safety and why it took

839
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 4: a long time to edit that scene is because I

840
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 4: was also thinking about the audience, and you know, I'm

841
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 4: very conscious of like not wanting to like, you know,

842
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 4: retraumatize people who are victims, you know, who have been

843
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 4: victims to sexual assaults. So I was really intentional about like, Okay,

844
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 4: let's get the point across, but not overdo it to

845
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 4: the point where now you're re traumatizing someone.

846
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 3: How do you decide the characters are kicks just as

847
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: we're trying starting to go into our closing from the beginning,

848
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: or as each season goes, or do you have the

849
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 3: ending in your mind already, or where is this going

850
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: for you?

851
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 8: I have no idea.

852
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 4: It's also kind of going on a journey when I'm

853
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 4: writing as well.

854
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: So.

855
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 8: There are certain things.

856
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 4: It's sort of like, well, Shonda rhymes, because she's like

857
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: my virtual mentor in my mind.

858
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 7: She talks.

859
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 4: She talks about like characters are like really good friends.

860
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 4: But you know, obviously you don't know everything about a

861
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 4: really good friend, and with time you get to know

862
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 4: more about them. So it's kind of like that persist

863
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 4: in season one. There were certain things that I knew

864
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: so obviously, well maybe not obviously, but I was planting

865
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 4: certain things to then pick up in season two. So

866
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: I knew Matty didn't want to have a baby. She

867
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: just didn't know it yet.

868
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: You know.

869
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 4: I knew certain things about Taff as well, and his

870
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: backstory and his relationship with v that wasn't revealed in

871
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 4: season one. Season two. Season one, I didn't even have

872
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 4: an ending, and I organized about that for a very

873
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 4: long time because it was like, I think it was

874
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: like two weeks until production and I didn't have an ending.

875
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 8: So that was pressure.

876
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 4: And then yeah, season two, I had an idea of

877
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: an ending.

878
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 8: I wasn't sure if V and Luke.

879
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 4: Well, I thought V and Luke weren't going to make

880
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: it to ZIM, but I wasn't sure. So it became

881
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 4: a task of like, Okay, let's throw things at them

882
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: and write it and you know, see if the ending

883
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 4: makes sense by the time we get to it. So yeah,

884
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 4: so I don't really know that's the.

885
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: Best answer that she just you just said, you just

886
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: you don't know where it's going to go.

887
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, hearing you talk about you dance with God.

888
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 5: I was like, wow, dig into your mind, that's excellent

889
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 5: right there.

890
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, why do you see that's the best dnswer?

891
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 8: Why do you think that?

892
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 10: Well, where are you going to be in the year

893
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 10: twenty thirty five August the sixth, You know what I mean? Like,

894
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 10: like who knows what the future is to hold?

895
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what this this this show is. It's

896
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: just life. It's just really just good writing in life,

897
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: and it's like if you.

898
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 10: Have There are a lot of shows like there is

899
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 10: a show in particular, it's called Breaking Bag, that little show.

900
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 10: I think they I think they found the beginning and

901
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 10: they found the end. I think I can't remember that's true,

902
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 10: but I think they already had the end and then

903
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 10: they filled all the metal pieces, which is fine, and

904
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 10: the show became a huge, successful hit and it was wonderful.

905
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 10: But every as you were saying, will be like like

906
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 10: to get into the mind of an actor or an artist.

907
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 10: It's different for every single person, and there is no

908
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 10: right or wrong answer.

909
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: Again, it sounds corny and cliche, but like I find,

910
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: like math, science kind of there's always like one kind

911
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: of yeah. But with arts, there's no rules. That's the

912
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: exciting thing. There's literally no rules. And with Christine.

913
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 10: You know, it's like I love that answer you having

914
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 10: no idea because that's also so exciting and that makes

915
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 10: me more excited for season three, four, five, six, seven, eight.

916
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 5: I have said I am looking forward to collaborate and

917
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 5: looking forward to seeing things on other platforms TV. I'm

918
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 5: just putting it out there that was going to release it.

919
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 3: You know, now what is next kicks, Yeah.

920
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: Pay cinematic relays.

921
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 7: We got this.

922
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm claiming it right.

923
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, what is next?

924
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 4: Oh well, I take it, you know, I'm taking it

925
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 4: one step at a time. So next thing is season three? Uh,

926
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 4: raising funds for season three? You know, obviously I want

927
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 4: to pay all these guys, you know, great talent. I

928
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 4: want to be able to pay people, you know, So

929
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 4: raising funds for a project like this does take quite

930
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 4: some time. And audio drama fiction Immersive is one of

931
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 4: the most expensive types of podcasts to make, which is

932
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 4: why you don't hear a lot of them unless they're

933
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 4: coming from other, like, you know, production studios that have

934
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 4: a lot of money to put into it. So as

935
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 4: an independent production, that is one of the.

936
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 8: Biggest hurdles to cross.

937
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 4: So but I'm you know, I have faith, you know,

938
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 4: blind faith that we'll get there based on what I

939
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: don't know, but I guess that's what faith is all about, right.

940
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 4: But I do want to say a big shout out

941
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: to the Australia Council for the Arts, Creative Victoria, the

942
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: Scalon Foundation, the Jesse Cox Audio Fellowship, all the listeners

943
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 4: who contributed to season one, Season two, because yeah, all

944
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 4: of that really does make a huge difference in being

945
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 4: able to create something of the quality that it is.

946
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 4: And I think all the performances, you know, Jerry in

947
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: the background doing the sound, I think everyone did such

948
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 4: a great job. So yeah, season three coming up with

949
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 4: the story, raising funds for it. If you want to

950
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 4: support any listeners who are listening to this right now.

951
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 4: If you want to support, you can donate at privatefaspod

952
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 4: dot com, or you can also buy some merche the

953
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 4: same place, private affairstpod dot com.

954
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 5: Awesome. And I just wanted to say, you've mentioned dancing

955
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 5: with God, so I don't think it's I don't think

956
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 5: he's not gonna listen. You're in his ear already, if

957
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 5: that makes sense. So I really that's just me being like,

958
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 5: you know, you're already working with within that realm before.

959
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 4: We go God. I do want to say, can I

960
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 4: just address like, you know, people hinting at TV and stuff.

961
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 4: I don't want to act like I don't hear it,

962
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, it's just like whatever, girl, No, I

963
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 4: mean I see the comments all the time. Yeah, let's

964
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 4: let's say like, yeah, I am looking at trying to

965
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 4: also have conversations around that. But you know, you guys

966
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 4: know you've been in the industry. Some things take off,

967
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 4: some things don't. So we'll see where it goes. But

968
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 4: no matter what happens, season three is I'm striving to

969
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 4: make like I need to get the story out, so

970
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 4: it's going to come out one way or another.

971
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 5: So there is a story. We just got the full

972
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 5: one one the story, and season three we don't want

973
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 5: to wait on Netflix.

974
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 8: Yes, it's not ready, it's not it is, but the.

975
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 9: Story is there.

976
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 5: But you know, so we are ready look forward.

977
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 7: To Can I ask one Can I ask one question quickly? Sure?

978
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 7: When you guys were listening when I read this script

979
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 7: and I saw this bluetooth a little situation now, I

980
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 7: was like this Bluetooth. I was like this bluetooth you,

981
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 7: I'm like, wow, we've been talking about freaking seat and

982
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 7: so I just want to know when you guys were

983
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 7: listening as the audience when the bluetooth scene came up,

984
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 7: did you kind of think interesting? What what? What? Yeah?

985
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 7: How was that for you? Because as soon as I

986
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 7: read it, I was like, your fam bluetooth business? What

987
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 7: was that for you? Guys? Like when you when you

988
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 7: when you.

989
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 5: Heard it please remind me. The bluetooth scene is this

990
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 5: when Taff was in.

991
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 11: The car, forget me, let me, let me tell the forward.

992
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 11: What Okay, it'd be great to take a shower, and

993
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 11: then Luke is like.

994
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 3: And then like playing the voice for the thousand time

995
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 3: because we know she'd been playing that since and then silence.

996
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 9: Yeah in the living room voice recount, that's what.

997
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 5: You mean by bluetooth, okay, And I understood. Okay, I'm

998
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 5: with you. I'm with you, my bad, my bad.

999
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 7: I because because because like when the script was there

1000
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 7: right and I'm reading it and the first piece happens,

1001
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 7: like with the bluetooth scene, like, oh, what's the game

1002
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 7: on my bluetooth? I was like that bluetooth bullshit is

1003
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 7: coming back to find someone. I'm like that that bullshit

1004
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 7: right there, that is not too random just to just

1005
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 7: just appear like that.

1006
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, no, no fan, when I listen, well,

1007
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 5: I don't know, Manda, if you want to go first,

1008
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 5: no you go. When I that scene, I was like,

1009
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 5: Sins has had this thing on repeat and now she's

1010
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 5: trying to be like just my bluetoo number one, And

1011
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 5: I think it was for me. I was like, what

1012
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 5: was she trying to? What is she trying to discover

1013
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 5: or understand from listening to this voice note over and

1014
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 5: over again, Like she's running and she's listening to TAP's voice.

1015
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, personally, when I run, I need me some music.

1016
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 5: I don't listening to random voice notes from voicemails from

1017
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 5: nobody from No, let's start there. And then so I'm like,

1018
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 5: what is she trying to and is it reparations for

1019
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 5: what Luke did? Like she's trying to be like, oh,

1020
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 5: but I've got my own you know something they're not.

1021
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 5: Do you understand? Like my brain was like maybe that

1022
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 5: was her thought process and then hey, yeah, then the scene.

1023
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I completely understand why Luke would

1024
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 5: have questions because I'm like, but why you didn't? Why

1025
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 5: are you listening to this?

1026
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 3: And why look? Let that one goes so easy?

1027
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 5: You just like no, I'm like, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, this

1028
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 5: means you're been listening to Itture.

1029
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: Zimbabwe with your back.

1030
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 5: Nope, That's how I took it. I don't know if

1031
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 5: it answers your question.

1032
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 7: I just had made that It's so good just to

1033
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 7: see you guys. So Animated because like, I got so

1034
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 7: many friends who were talking to me about their experiences,

1035
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 7: and Christine told me about the bedroom scene, the fight

1036
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 7: that I have with with with with Sunji, and so

1037
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 7: many people have been calling me to be like dude

1038
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 7: when that ship went down, man, because aside, you're with

1039
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 7: her with me like it's yo, it's it's play divisions

1040
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 7: like are you are you team A? I'm not ready?

1041
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 7: Are you team You're taking me for a fool? What

1042
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 7: the fuck you? It's it's it's interesting. It's good to see.

1043
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 3: I will say Kicks is writing and you guys's performances

1044
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: evoke things in us as listeners. And I don't know

1045
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 3: if you guys need feedback or not, but like, really,

1046
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 3: hats off to you because we we we obviously embody

1047
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 3: these people as if we're like and like Kicks has

1048
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 3: always said TV for your ears, and I think that's

1049
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 3: always stayed with me because I'm like, I'm picturing it.

1050
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm there with them and what's going on,

1051
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 3: and and that just speaks to your talent all of you.

1052
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 3: So flowers like the biggest bouquet of flowers to you,

1053
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 3: and that's why you want to do this podcast episode

1054
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 3: with you as well, just to also to take a

1055
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: moment to acknowledge all the hard work that's gone into this.

1056
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 3: It's not being a creative is It's not an easy feat.

1057
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about mats and everything as an answer,

1058
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 3: but there's also an uncertainty that can come with creativity

1059
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 3: as well. But when you guys hit the nail on

1060
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 3: their head with this, it's just take a moment to

1061
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 3: also patch yourselves on the back. We are on this

1062
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 3: ride with you, and we are very very happy for

1063
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 3: all the content that we're getting. Trust me, I can

1064
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 3: listen back to season one over and over again. That

1065
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: also speaks because as consumers right now, we consume them

1066
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 3: with discard. So for us to be able to still

1067
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: go back and listen and still enjoy it as if

1068
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 3: I've never heard it and still recommend it and still

1069
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 3: share it and still speaks to the talent that we

1070
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 3: you guys deserve to get all the flowers.

1071
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 5: So agree. I'd be in the shower and I'm like

1072
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 5: wait what hold pause, and like I will never forget this.

1073
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 5: One day, I think I was in the shower and

1074
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 5: then and listening and my husband was like, what's going

1075
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 5: on because I'll be like comment, I'm like, oh no,

1076
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 5: you can't help it. I'm like, oh nah, girl, MATI

1077
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 5: like literally, that'd be me too.

1078
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 10: Starts hearing four voices come from the show, and then.

1079
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 4: It's well on the morning, listener said something sent through

1080
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 4: something The d MS people DM a lot they don't

1081
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 4: like to share publicly, but this listener said something really funny. Yeah,

1082
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 4: she said that season finale made me stop in my

1083
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 4: tracks in the middle of Walmart.

1084
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 3: Oh mg G.

1085
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah and Walmart.

1086
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Speaker 6: It's so, I know, it's like it's worldwide, but you

1087
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 6: just think our voices are in someone's ear is in America?

1088
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 3: Like what exactly exactly? Why do you guys think that's so?

1089
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 3: Why do you think everyone's like latched onto this?

1090
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 7: Well?

1091
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 3: How does it read back to you guys? Why do

1092
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 3: you think it's such an important story to tell.

1093
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 6: It's just it's Christine's beautiful mind. Honestly, it's just the

1094
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 6: way you did it. Like when we get the scripts.

1095
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 6: I don't know about you guys, but I read it

1096
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 6: and I'm like, what's going to happen? Like I'm I'm a.

1097
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: Fan while reading it, and then I'm like, Okay.

1098
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, as an actor when you're reading it for the

1099
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 10: first time, I guess the first people to get to

1100
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 10: see it are the actors, right, So when we're reading it,

1101
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 10: it's just like reading a good books, the same thing.

1102
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 7: When I read it, I was disappointed because I'm the

1103
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 7: only one who doesn't have sex. Just so clear everybody

1104
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 7: else is having a good time.

1105
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 5: But so literally.

1106
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 7: But no, to be serious, you asked a good question,

1107
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 7: and I think it goes back to the point I

1108
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 7: said before, is in I think we all identify with

1109
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 7: the characters because of things that we will because our

1110
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 7: audience is global, Like everyone who listens to this would

1111
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 7: probably be part of the diaspora family who will recommend it.

1112
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 7: And then what it then does is it allows other

1113
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 7: people to learn and share about cultural differences or context

1114
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 7: they're not aware of. So I think we all identify

1115
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 7: with someone or everyone within this and that's the beautiful

1116
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 7: work of the creativity of the content.

1117
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 6: Even like to read it being Shonglish, like it's like

1118
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 6: someone in the Spanish community will listen to it and

1119
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 6: think about how they incorporate their language into like everyday

1120
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 6: language and their jokes and slang too.

1121
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually got another listener send then a note

1122
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 4: about the language, and they said, oh, I love that

1123
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 4: you put the language in there.

1124
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 8: It makes me, makes it feel real.

1125
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 4: So I think people, well, I think people like listening

1126
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 4: to it, even though you know, the audiences is actually

1127
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 4: quite diverse. It's not just you know, black people. It's

1128
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 4: not just Zimbabweans. It really is. When I look at

1129
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 4: the analytics, it really is across the world. Mostly women,

1130
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 4: but definitely people of all different cultures and backgrounds listen

1131
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 4: to it. And I think it's because it's human stories,

1132
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I think there's a level

1133
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 4: of relatability even if you haven't you're not from the

1134
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 4: specific background.

1135
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 8: I think you know.

1136
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 4: What I try to do is write things that are

1137
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 4: emotionally true, so I think people can tap into that.

1138
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 7: It's a super power. The character is actually last thing

1139
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 7: I'll say, because you asked me about playing PG and Tony,

1140
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 7: if you notice the difference of Tondy and PJ. TONI

1141
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 7: speaks more Shana, specifically to being allowed to have that,

1142
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 7: which is great.

1143
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's wonderful. Before we wrap up and close, we

1144
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 5: just I guess would ask you any parting words for

1145
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 5: anyone aspiring to be within the creative industry, a voice

1146
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 5: action actor, right, just any last words, would go around

1147
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 5: and if you can share anything that you would like

1148
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 5: to share with our audiences who are like you know

1149
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 5: what I did want to do that X y Z,

1150
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 5: and I kind of put it on the back burner.

1151
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 5: And you know there's no space or time or I'm

1152
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 5: too old or I'm too you know that all these

1153
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 5: things that we tell ourselves to justify why we can

1154
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 5: or cannot do something. So maybe if we just go around.

1155
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 5: I would like to start maybe with Ron Daddy, So hey,

1156
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 5: look at me just calling you guys like right, I

1157
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 5: know you.

1158
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 3: People, I know everybody now I'm just like.

1159
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 5: I'm like you and Shunghi and then Christine to round

1160
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 5: us off.

1161
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: So Ron, where to start? Well, Christine, where did you start?

1162
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 10: What's behind you?

1163
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1164
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: Literally where to start?

1165
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1166
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 10: But it's so funny. We all have iPhones, we all

1167
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 10: have microphone. It's it sounds hard, but all of the

1168
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 10: ideas are still are right here. You know you have

1169
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 10: an idea, go for it seriously, right, it may not

1170
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 10: come today. Have a little book, as Christine said, have

1171
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 10: a little book and just write down little things every day.

1172
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 10: Don't have expectations after six months if you do that

1173
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 10: every day, if you skip out on some weeks so

1174
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 10: that your book will be full and you'll have all

1175
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 10: this amazing, beautiful information and then goes to the next step.

1176
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: So don't have expectations of I want to do this, now,

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01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: I want to do this, then I want to do this.

1178
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: It's all it's all very baby steps. Enjoy the process.

1179
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: You have fun.

1180
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 10: A lot of people forget to have fun, you know.

1181
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 10: I think I think we all we all have it

1182
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 10: in us. Every single human on this planet has art

1183
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 10: in them. We all have a favorite movie.

1184
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 7: You know.

1185
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 10: Art is what from the very beginning of when humans

1186
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 10: first existed. You know, art, art is there. It's it's

1187
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 10: around us everything. So whether it be a short film,

1188
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 10: whether it be writing, whether it be music. Start.

1189
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: You know, it is possible. It's not impossible.

1190
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 10: And I've been on so many projects where I was

1191
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 10: on a TV show where we where none of the

1192
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 10: actors got paid. We did it because we enjoyed it.

1193
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 10: And that was that was green, that was very similar

1194
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 10: to Private Affairs. It was bare bones and then it

1195
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 10: got Netflix for three seasons. Right, So it's like just start.

1196
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 10: It sounds weird, but just start and have fun. And

1197
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 10: there are so many like minded people in this world.

1198
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 10: There's eight billion people.

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Speaker 12: On this planet, you know, Like just just write something,

1200
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 12: just have fun, enjoy because Christine really like sparked that belly,

1201
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 12: sparked that fire in my belly for more voice acting,

1202
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 12: you know, and it's powerful.

1203
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 10: Art will affect you and you and it and or

1204
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 10: just enlightened so many other people, you know, and that's

1205
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 10: the beauty of art. It's just making people happy and connect.

1206
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 10: And I think just just start by just riding some

1207
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 10: stuff anything and.

1208
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: Go do it.

1209
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 5: Thank you so so much, Gottikai.

1210
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 7: Thank you. It's so nice to hear someone say my

1211
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 7: name correctly. It's great. They'll be like no, and like

1212
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 7: seriously because I'm in Australia, like so they can't roll

1213
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 7: their ars, they don't go so when someone says, I'm like,

1214
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 7: that's it right there, like you know, so behave yourself wrong.

1215
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 9: And it's so.

1216
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 6: Funny because Gottie and I are in the same area too,

1217
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 6: Like it's so that we're the only black people probably

1218
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 6: and that they're around three suburbs.

1219
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 7: Like my wife's always like, oh, people said they saw

1220
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 7: you and I'm like, yeah, because I'm the black dude

1221
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 7: of the Dreadlocks. This is like like demographic, beIN a

1222
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 7: whole bunch of us out here. Bro gone, let's let's

1223
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 7: be serious. Yeah. But to answer you, what I would

1224
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 7: say is I have a different take, which is similar

1225
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 7: in the fact that just love the art and understand

1226
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 7: why you're in the art. So, as I said to

1227
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 7: you guys before, I stopped acting for about three years

1228
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 7: because I got really frustrated because I was too mature

1229
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 7: to understand the business side of it. So I've been

1230
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 7: doing acting for a while. There's some really great projects done,

1231
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 7: like you know, great work and being on some really

1232
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 7: cool things, and you're always doubting yourself in questioning as

1233
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 7: a creative that always comes at the territory. But then

1234
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 7: when you remember why you do it. Like one of

1235
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 7: the things that I actually mature about was it's getting

1236
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 7: put on all these big projects and you start thinking, oh,

1237
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 7: if I get booked on that it's going to be

1238
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 7: like this. And because I was immature, I didn't understand

1239
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 7: that this is an art. This is a game that's

1240
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 7: about creativity, and it's all about you know, time and

1241
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 7: sharing and you know what you invest in it, and

1242
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 7: then when I when I when I left, I went

1243
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 7: into this space where I was exploring things, this living

1244
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 7: my life, and I realize art is about creativity. Creativity

1245
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 7: is about your interpretation or what you want to give

1246
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 7: or how you want to share with the world. It

1247
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 7: has no commercial association with it. If you are lucky

1248
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 7: to be in a project which then has which then

1249
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 7: has commercials which I say financials associated with it, then

1250
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 7: that's work. That's not art. So what I would recommend

1251
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 7: is no the difference between work and art. If you

1252
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 7: want to do this and if you want to keep

1253
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 7: in love with the arts, don't get in this for

1254
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 7: the bag. Don't get in this for the fame and

1255
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 7: the success, because you could just go do reality TV.

1256
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 7: Be a creative like explore that you have the power

1257
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,520
Speaker 7: you have. As run said, we all have stories. There's

1258
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 7: eight billion of us, so many of us connect. That's

1259
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 7: why music is great. A musician or writer people like,

1260
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 7: oh my god, it thought he was talking to me

1261
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 7: because we all connected. So follow the art. Be true

1262
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 7: to that, and I promise you it will be so

1263
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 7: much more fruitful. I'm having so much more fun with

1264
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 7: this because when I joined this. I said this to Christine.

1265
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 7: I don't care how much you're pain. I just want

1266
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 7: to be part of the project because it's just great.

1267
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 7: Fall in love with that, find that you'll be free

1268
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 7: and you want to look at as a business. That's

1269
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 7: that's what I think.

1270
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 5: He bars. Thank you.

1271
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 2: I kind of to build on what you just said, Guttie.

1272
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 2: I feel like nurture the voice in your head that

1273
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: asks why not you?

1274
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 6: And what if it goes well? What if I have

1275
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 6: so much fun? What if I make new friends? What

1276
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 6: if I grow? What if I learned something like nurture

1277
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 6: the what if of the good the positive side instead

1278
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 6: of what if I'm to this or to that? Like,

1279
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 6: try and strengthen that voice a bit more in your

1280
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 6: head and you'll find yourself.

1281
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 2: You'll find your mind.

1282
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 6: Taking you to more beautiful places because you put yourself

1283
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 6: out there. You went to that random acting class or

1284
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 6: that works, and you made a friend. And I feel

1285
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 6: like a beautiful part of acting is sometimes you get.

1286
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: A gig not for the not for the job itself.

1287
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 6: Sometimes you meet a best friend in a gig and

1288
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 6: you never know why you're being led to a part.

1289
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 6: So if you have a strong feeling that you want

1290
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 6: to get more creative and do acting or writing or

1291
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 6: whatever it is. Put yourself out there because it might

1292
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 6: be the universe like guiding you to to a circle

1293
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 6: that's going to nourish your mind and make you grow

1294
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 6: as a person. And if I had a little practical one,

1295
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 6: I would say read the book The Artist's Way by

1296
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 6: Julia Cameron. That one helps you release any rules or

1297
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 6: boxes in your head that you have around your creativity,

1298
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 6: and just it asks you to take yourself out on

1299
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 6: an artist date every week, where you go to a

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Speaker 6: book store, you go to a class, and it's I

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Speaker 6: think that might be a nice gentle way of like

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Speaker 6: dipping your toe into creativity.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you so much, beautiful jeez.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now I need to find something to say, Yeah

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Speaker 4: you guys, did I think I'll just add it's never

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Speaker 4: too late to start. Ava Duvinet started when she was

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Speaker 4: thirty three, you know so, and especially these days, there's

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Speaker 4: so many resources where you can learn, particularly for creative

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01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 4: art stuff. You can learn so much YouTube University. Proud

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Speaker 4: graduate of YouTube University. Yeah, I think, yeah, it's just

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Speaker 4: it's never too late. And also I would also just

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Speaker 4: say make calculated risks. You know, I'm all about taking risks,

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01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 4: but also calculate your risks. And had a friend tell

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Speaker 4: me that they quit their job after listening to the podcast.

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01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 4: I was like, hey, hold up, quit your job. I

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Speaker 4: don't have I don't know if they had decided to

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Speaker 4: quit anyway, peopore and this was just like, you know

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Speaker 4: how people look for signs of confirmation. Yeah, so you

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Speaker 4: know a lot of times we try to. I think

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Speaker 4: there are ways of pursuing your passion but also being sensible.

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Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't have to be all or nothing.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, wonderful, Thank you so so much. This has

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Speaker 5: been food for the soul, and you know, just reinforced

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Speaker 5: why why we do this, why we have this podcast,

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Speaker 5: and why we share these stories because a as Amanda said,

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Speaker 5: to give your flowers, which are so well deserved, and

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Speaker 5: be because these stories are inspiring. We hope to inspire

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Speaker 5: any of our listeners. And you know, thank you so

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01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 5: so much for taking the time to be with us,

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01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 5: for sharing so much of yourselves, for creating this world

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Speaker 5: where we feel we live in. I feel like I

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Speaker 5: know v I'm going to go see her this next

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Speaker 5: week for brunch, Like you know, like you just feel

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Speaker 5: like that connection and for doing something so amazing. And

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Speaker 5: before we round up, we just like to give you

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Speaker 5: an opportunity to share where people can find you if

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Speaker 5: you want to be found on the socials and also

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Speaker 5: of course for private affairs.

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Speaker 7: But I want to give you guys a shout out.

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01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 7: I will be doing a podcast which is similar to

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01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,799
Speaker 7: what you guys do. It's pretty much in the frame

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Speaker 7: of guy who grew up in Zimbabwe, went to private school.

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01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 7: But you know, it's connected very much to the social

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01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 7: economic demographer from the wealthiest of the poorest and the

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01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 7: challenges we see and the conversations from a male's perspective.

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Speaker 7: I think we're not having it. I was listening to

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Speaker 7: your I think it was the hierarchy one you guys

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01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 7: are playing. You were talking about gender roles and there

1349
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 7: was something beautiful you said where you it was it's

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01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 7: interesting as a woman because you got to be everything

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01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 7: for everyone except yourself at the same time. And I

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01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 7: was like, God, damn head shit right there. High So

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01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 7: something very similar to what you guys are doing is

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01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 7: quite inspiring. But at the moment, I'll just be taking

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Speaker 7: a chill working with Christine and then we'll get back

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Speaker 7: to it.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for listening, by the way, that's really lovely.

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Speaker 7: You do your research, Bruh.

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Speaker 6: It's just my name so SINGI R don't watching a cut,

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01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 6: but yeah, I don't post enough on there like but

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Speaker 6: I will And if anyone has any acting questions, I

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01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 6: can help as much as I can. But I feel

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Speaker 6: like your journey is your journey. It's not going to

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Speaker 6: be the same as anyone.

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01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 4: And you can find Private Affairs on Instagram at private

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01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 4: Affairs pod Facebook as well and Twitter at private Affairs

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Speaker 4: p awesome.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Amanda. Any last words before we part.

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Speaker 3: No, we've enjoyed this as fans. We obviously really wanted

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Speaker 3: to get some behind the scenes tea and it just

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01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 3: feels nice to hear you guys speak on the project

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Speaker 3: and we can't wait for more.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, ask.

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Speaker 7: One quick question.

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Speaker 10: One quick question. I'm new to podcasts. I watched mainly film,

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Speaker 10: a lot of movies. TV show are dabbling, but I

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Speaker 10: love movies, but through podcasts obviously Private Affairs, and I've

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01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 10: been listening in some other things. But what I like

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01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 10: about some TV shows, the ones that come out once

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01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 10: a week, I really love them.

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Speaker 1: Because of the episodes go for twenty minutes forty minutes,

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01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: and you have that entire week to think about it.

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01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: How do you How do you listen to podcasts? Do

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01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: you go?

1385
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 7: Do you binge it?

1386
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: Or do you go one episode a day or one

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01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: episode a week? How do you?

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Speaker 3: It depends on the type of podcasts.

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Speaker 5: Oh so, like something like Private Affairs, which is a

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01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 5: story right, Like it's literally like a TV show, So

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01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,799
Speaker 5: I'm like, what's happening that bit? Okay?

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Speaker 3: When the downloads, I'm like, yeah.

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01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 5: And my thought automatic download, so you know. Also there's

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Speaker 5: some and then other podcasts that and I think our

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Speaker 5: podcast and managed to courage me if I'm wrong is

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Speaker 5: really something you need to chew on a little bit.

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Speaker 5: So I find when I make time or when I

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Speaker 5: have time, So it's if I'm cooking, like I don't

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Speaker 5: think I could listen to Private Affairs and be chopping

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Speaker 5: because of like, see, okay, you know it's so I

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Speaker 5: like to listen when I'm doing things, you know that

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01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 5: don't require my brain. And then it's literally as as

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Speaker 5: I have the time for it and it can chew

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Speaker 5: on it. And also what I'm feeling, like, do I

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01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 5: want something like for entertainment really or do I want

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Speaker 5: something to like learn something or just depends that's me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Because it's a current affairs podcast, you have to

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Speaker 3: probably listen to it as soon as it drops because

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01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 3: they're probably going to be talking about But it was

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Speaker 3: like one like hours where you know you're just talking

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01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 3: about topics where you can pick which topic even want

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01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 3: to listen to, what kind of mood you're in then

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Speaker 3: that Yeah, so it does depend on a movie.

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Speaker 5: Thank you again everybody for listening to this really really

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Speaker 5: special bonus episode Layered Affairs. As always, let us know

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01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 5: your thoughts where on Instagram it's Layered, We're on Twitter,

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Speaker 5: it's lad pod. You can email us. It's lad pod

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01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 5: at gmail dot com. Once again, thank you to the

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Speaker 5: cost creators of Private Affairs podcast. Be sure to listen

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Speaker 5: if you haven't already, you don't know what you're missing.

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Speaker 5: We'll leave it all the information in the show notes,

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Speaker 5: as well as how you can support them and we'll

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Speaker 5: see you. When we see you guys.

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Speaker 2: By bit, we'll use your hands.

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Speaker 3: They will tear you up.

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Speaker 5: Lack a paper two Oh no no, yeah,