1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: We know that today is the anniversary of the bombing 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: of Darwin, and on this day in nineteen forty two, 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: mainland Australia came under attack for the first time. Japanese 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: forces mounted two air raids on Darwin, which involved land 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: based bombers and attack aircraft that were launched from four 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Japanese aircraft carriers in the tm or C. We know 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: that more than two hundred and thirty Allied service personnel 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: and civilians were killed and around four hundred were wounded. 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Thirty military aircraft were lost, nine ships in the harbor 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: and two outside were sunk, and most civil and military 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: facilities in Darwen were destroyed. Now joining me in the 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: studio to talk about the aviators who lost their lives 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: is Flight Lieutenant Fiona Earl, PhD, thirteen Squadron History Officer. 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Fiona, Good morning, Thanks so much 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: for your time this morning. Thanks for having us. I 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: think it's really important to have you in the studio. 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people will be down obviously 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: at the commemorations this morning, but there's going to be 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people at work this morning listening, wanting 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: to really commemorate the bombing of Darwin today but sitting 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: in their offices, so they'll be really pleased, I think 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: to hear from you this morning. Now, tell me. We 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: know that there were indeed two air raids on Darwin 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: on the nineteenth of February back in nineteen forty two, 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: but can you remind us what took place? 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: So it's really the first attack on Australia's mainland. So 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: if Darwen was starting to get ready for defending the 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: North and from the bombing of Darwen, we really started 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: to amp up at that point. Yeah. 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: Now we do know that seven doubleaf aviators were among 31 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: the two hundred and thirty five people killed. Now I 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: understand it was initially thought to be six. What changed? 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: So it was originally reported as seven, but one couldn't 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: be identified. So as the time goes by, the reports 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: are saying seven but only listing six people. So there's 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: a little bit of a discrepancy there in the reports, 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: and so it just starts dropping off the last person 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: and it's not until the twenty fifth of March that 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: the family actually finds out that their son has died. 40 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: It's taken that long to identify. 41 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: Wow, So they went that long a period of time 42 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: without even knowing that their son had passed. 43 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, so unfortunately he's gone. Shultz has gone into 44 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: the bushland on base and a direct hit and so 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: really hard to identify it. It's looking for clothing materials, names, 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: playing cards. That sort of thing is what helps identify 47 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: him in the end, and. 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: So shed some light for us on the lengths that 49 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: the aviators went to in an effort to try to survive. 50 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: So it's really a case of you're trying to build 51 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: up at the start. So you're building trenches, you've got 52 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: gun pits in place, and the infrastructure is really new, 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: you know, we're just starting to build it in the 54 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: early ninety nineteen forties. 55 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: And obviously they I mean I'm assuming they didn't know 56 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: really what was coming, did they, And so then it 57 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: would have been a you know, like an absolutely horrific 58 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: and horrible realization that's my goodness, we're being bombed and 59 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: just how extensive is this going to be? 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and it's happened. It's obviously happening twice on 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: one day as well. So you've got people like Latham 62 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: who's in Bachelor when the first one happens and his 63 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: brothers on the raft base in Darwin, so he heads 64 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: back looking for him and thankfully finds him alive. However, 65 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: the second raid then starts and the raft base at 66 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: that point is the main target. So the Latham then 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: jumps into a trench with Barton, Naylan and Smith, but 68 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: unfortunately their trench is a direct hit. So the brother survives, 69 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: but from coming back to check on him he dies. 70 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, what a tragic situation. And you know, 71 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: it's just one of I'm assuming many that as you 72 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: start to do the work that you've done and you 73 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: learn more and more about this history, it must be 74 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: quite like a sad but really fascinating thing for you 75 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: to work through it. 76 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's important to give people more information about them 77 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: as a person. So it's not just their service number, 78 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: their rank, or necessarily their mustering, it's who they are 79 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: as a per And so you've got Barton. Barton's the 80 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: oldest one who dies during the bombing of Darwin on 81 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: the raft base, and he's got his own motor mechanic 82 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: shop at back at home, and he's got a wife, 83 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: a daughter and two sons. So you get that more 84 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: personalized story. You can relate to it a little bit more. 85 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: Yes, So I mean give us a bit more detail 86 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: about these seven people and and you know what they 87 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: did leave behind. 88 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: So Barton was actually the only one with children. So 89 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: the rest of them are all quite young. And so 90 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: it's a case of for example, Tindall, it's his mum 91 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: and his sister that are left because his father's already 92 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: died in World War One. So it's this ongoing story 93 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: of military service for that family. 94 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: And obviously the raft based Tindall was named in his 95 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: honor too. Yes, yeah, I mean it's to me, I 96 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: just think to myself. Even yesterday we were talking to 97 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: one of the Darwin City councilors, Mick Palmer, and he 98 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: said his dad was here and was part of the 99 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: defense force and he was sixteen years old. You know, 100 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: you look at some of these some of these young 101 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: people lost their lives and you forget they were like 102 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: they were children. 103 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're quite young, you know, most of them. When 104 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: you're looking at occupations, some of them have student written. 105 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's I mean, it is. It's such an important 106 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: part of our history though, isn't it. It is really important 107 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: that people sort of understand the people that were lost 108 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: and the service that they were doing for their country. 109 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: It is really important. You know, Darwin's a big defense 110 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: area for a lot of people and a lot of 111 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: families involved here, so it's good to make sure that 112 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: we commemorate remember these sorts of events. 113 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: And of course we know that a memorial is going 114 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: to actually be unveiled today, isn't it to commemorate the 115 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: seven Aviators. 116 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: Yes, So it's been two years in the making. We've 117 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: had a lot of people involved, very passionate, and it's 118 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: a really important project because it's local RAF aviators trying 119 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: to find a way to remember and commemorate raf aviators 120 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: from nineteen forty two. 121 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: So where exactly is it going to be and is 122 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: it a spot of significance? It's sort of been where 123 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: it's going to go. 124 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: There's two parts to it. There's a wall that's right 125 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: out the front of the headquarters on the raft base, 126 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: and then just off to the left of it, you've 127 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: got a memorial, small little plarque and that's actually where 128 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: Tindall died. So we've got a plaka for Tindle at 129 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: that particular location. 130 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: Is it a spot that like for people listening this 131 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: morning are they going to be able to see it 132 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: or not? Not really? Yeah, but with the wall outside, 133 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: will they be able to see that? 134 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: You have to look for photos. 135 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say, I have no doubt there'll 136 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: be photos up. I just know we've got so many 137 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: people that listen to the show that are you know, 138 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: like they are really interested in our war history and 139 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: I think it is such an important thing to do 140 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: to have those those memorials to commemorate them. So that's 141 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: going to be unveiled today. Will people be able to 142 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: see those photos that They'll be able to see them 143 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: somewhere online way. 144 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: The footage some photos, so it'd be great. 145 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, all good stuff. I would imagine that a lot 146 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: of work's gone into bringing this to Fruition as well, 147 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: has ash. 148 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: A lot of people involved a long time, so you know, 149 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: two years. So you pick it up and you run 150 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: with it for a little while, and then you have 151 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 2: things like exercise pitch black that sort of you stop 152 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: think about something else and then you get back into 153 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:07,119 Speaker 2: it again. 154 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let's see, that's a difficult thing in some ways, 155 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: isn't it. That you've got to continue on with the 156 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: other practical side of work. Too. Flight Lieutenant Fiona Oyl, PhD, 157 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: thirteen Squadron History Officer. I really appreciate you joining us 158 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: in the studio this morning. Thanks so much for coming 159 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: in to have a chat. Thank you, thank you,