WEBVTT - Do Women Smile More Than Men? 🙂🙃

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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Rooms Daily podcast brought.

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<v Speaker 2>You ay yeah yeai.

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<v Speaker 3>You know I said to you a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 3>ago through me that I'm trying to do big thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't have.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop trying to not be yourself with Kai Hung.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's I'm very exhausted. For the first time

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<v Speaker 3>in my life, I'm exhausting myself by just existing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's never happened to me before.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's because it's because these things that I used

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<v Speaker 3>to do just incidentally by virtue of being myself have

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<v Speaker 3>become core tenets that are upheld by everyone who interacts

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<v Speaker 3>with me. I set a standard that I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to upkeep. How fuck do you think I feel about Shrek?

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<v Speaker 2>I have not. I have not watched that movie.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole way through ever in my life. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>give a fuck about Shrek.

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<v Speaker 2>And now it's a whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally, people say to be Shrek me every day. My

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<v Speaker 4>inbox is flooded, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, it's the paradox of like claiming an identity because

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<v Speaker 3>all these like you know, like I said, incidental markers

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<v Speaker 3>of you become so tiring to uphold like that one

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<v Speaker 3>week in October, I was like, I'm gonna be a

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<v Speaker 3>passive princess.

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<v Speaker 2>Granted didn't work out because that's not me. But sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard being a big bitch. You know, it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>being a bit bitch.

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<v Speaker 4>But look, all I'm gonna say is I'm wearing a

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<v Speaker 4>top that's backwards and the little tag is scratching my

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<v Speaker 4>neck and I actually want to punch something. I've never

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<v Speaker 4>punched in the knees, something before I've punched a hole

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<v Speaker 4>in the wool.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you I was angry little fuck.

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<v Speaker 5>See.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think my issue is I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>to instinctively hold my thumbs. My nails are too long,

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<v Speaker 3>and even if they weren't, I just don't know. If

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an upper body strength kind of girl. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I could choke someone out with my thighs because I

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<v Speaker 3>really can lift heavy with my thighs, but with my arms,

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<v Speaker 3>like I do a six kilo grand bicep curl. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is hard.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, I got better upper body strength and lower body

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<v Speaker 4>strengths because my torso is longer than my than my

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<v Speaker 4>short legs.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm a long leggo. Oh really yeah? Okay, my

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<v Speaker 2>Barbie queen.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, hmmm, the tangents really get us.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's beware. Brook.

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<v Speaker 4>Our producer is literally like her eyebrows are like high.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like nodding.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, girls, we're gonna wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I go to the vending machine and get a math.

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<v Speaker 1>Bar stat literally flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 4>So I have a fact few flexi, and that is

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<v Speaker 4>that babies, our target audience, smile on average two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>times a day.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you sure?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, even when they're farting in a little smile.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we're just reading it. Maybe we're like, they're smiling,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're just.

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<v Speaker 3>Like gesturing and noting, and we're adding the meaning.

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<v Speaker 4>And then apparently the average woman smiles sixty two times

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<v Speaker 4>a day.

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<v Speaker 2>I see that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't feel like enough. We'll guess how many times

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<v Speaker 4>the average man smiles sixty eight eight times a day?

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<v Speaker 4>Your average man.

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<v Speaker 3>Smile, love, complimenting, make because it lands right.

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<v Speaker 4>That eight eight times a day. Baby's away. I see

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<v Speaker 4>it because then I started thinking, I thought, surely that

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<v Speaker 4>can't be right. And then I'm going through the rolodex

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<v Speaker 4>of men that I know. Josh in the studio smiles

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<v Speaker 4>quite a bit, as does Will.

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<v Speaker 2>Very friendly men.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, trying to think of like think of my dad

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<v Speaker 4>for example. Okay, jokes all the time, but he's not smiling.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have a man in the room who does

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<v Speaker 3>not feel like these statistics are accurate. He would say

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<v Speaker 3>that men or at least he smiles more often than

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<v Speaker 3>eight times. But I think we've got to be paying

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<v Speaker 3>more attention.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I guess yeah, Like think about it.

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<v Speaker 4>We're in the space, we're trying to be interesting or engaging.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think it's your want to do is to smile,

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<v Speaker 4>whereas if.

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<v Speaker 2>You're smiling having a bit of a cackle.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but what if you're like doing a job, you're

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<v Speaker 4>alone most of the time, what have you got to

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<v Speaker 4>smile at? You don't have connection like.

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<v Speaker 2>We really are. What have you got to smile at?

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<v Speaker 2>The beauty of life? Probably not, do you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I was watching a video the other day and it

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<v Speaker 3>was talking about how how men subconsciously know when they

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<v Speaker 3>stand in front of another man it is a defensive

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<v Speaker 3>or offensive position, and so if you watch men communicate,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll stand in forty five degree angles in relation to

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<v Speaker 3>each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm start looking around, I'm like, well, you got

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<v Speaker 2>you don't do the front to front. Apparently it's too aggressive.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so interesting. We've got to be paying more attention now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think. Yeah, men like standing cyber.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of like look at each other from the left

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<v Speaker 3>and the right, not from the front.

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<v Speaker 2>It's is a lot, that is so true. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>got to be paying more attention.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, if you're a man listening, hit us up.

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<v Speaker 4>Let us know what else we are coming so much

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<v Speaker 4>about this unknown specie flex and fruits. Now. The other

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<v Speaker 4>day we posted an Instagram real I must say to

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<v Speaker 4>tutor own Horn. The posts have been posting, oh we

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<v Speaker 4>love that. The engagement is all the way up my

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<v Speaker 4>professional dashboard on Instagram popping poppin' p opp iron g

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<v Speaker 4>All right, so we did one about whether or not

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<v Speaker 4>you brush your teeth at the at the sink or

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<v Speaker 4>in the shower. Yes, the comments were very divisive, as

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<v Speaker 4>we know. However, the newest comment is from somebody called

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<v Speaker 4>tiger Thorn, and it reads, I was told by a

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<v Speaker 4>plumber family member.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so not even a dentist, not even a dentist.

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<v Speaker 4>I was told by a plumber family member. We all

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<v Speaker 4>have one mine's David Price. He's master plumbing in Melbourne's family.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh is that family? Yes? My cousin.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, he's looks he looks like me, but a boy

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<v Speaker 4>like flu. Why are we going somebody this week? I'm struggling.

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<v Speaker 4>The brain is the brain is buffering. I was told

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<v Speaker 4>by a plumber family member that brushing teeth in the

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<v Speaker 4>shower is kind of dangerous because shower heads gather all

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of bacteria and can transmit Leisionnaire's disease when the

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<v Speaker 4>water is ingestice?

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<v Speaker 2>Is my don't all taps do that? Who clean the

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<v Speaker 2>inside of their tap? Ever? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what I want to find out as well.

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<v Speaker 4>The water that comes out of the bathroom tap, is

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<v Speaker 4>it the same as the water that comes out of

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<v Speaker 4>the kitchen tank?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because when i'm.

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<v Speaker 3>The difference is like there's a hot water pipe and

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<v Speaker 3>a cold water pipe and they are the same pipe, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they're splitting on and they split off.

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<v Speaker 4>But maybe there's a filter in the kitchen tap as

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<v Speaker 4>opposed to the bathroom tap.

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<v Speaker 2>And now why would they do that?

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<v Speaker 4>I can't fill up my water bottle in the toilet tap?

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<v Speaker 4>Not why because it's got pooh water in it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>the system, and that's fair the system to do it either,

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<v Speaker 4>he's a little too close to the washing basket.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I'm not even making sense.

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<v Speaker 4>All I want to say is, is kitchen tap the

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<v Speaker 4>same as bathroom tap? And his bathroom tap the same

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<v Speaker 4>as laundry tap is the same as shower tap. I

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<v Speaker 4>guess you know it's not looking good.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother.

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<v Speaker 3>There's already too much to be afraid of. You know

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying, don't brush your teeth in the shower. You

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<v Speaker 3>can get lesionaires. Stop going to restaurants.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what. I had a restaurant the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me why there was a girl behind the.

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<v Speaker 5>Kills she.

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<v Speaker 6>Went.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't even look ashamed.

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<v Speaker 6>She did she do this?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what she did.

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<v Speaker 3>The noise itself was enough to propel any disease anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>She put it back into its Literally, I said, at

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<v Speaker 3>least pretend to be ashamed.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no mad dash for the hands, but nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, the real.

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<v Speaker 4>Dangers are outside of your home. What is a legionnaire's disease?

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<v Speaker 4>Because you got the lesionnaire's cap.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's lesionaires is like lesions or is legionaires

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<v Speaker 3>g or s.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this woman can be like Legion

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<v Speaker 2>or Lesion Lision.

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<v Speaker 4>All I'm gonna say is I'm still gonna brush my

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<v Speaker 4>teeth in the shower, and maybe I'm gonna get some

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<v Speaker 4>sort of disease. But what is life if not living

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<v Speaker 4>life on the edge?

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<v Speaker 2>Hunh.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, something's gonna take you out. If not that, what

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<v Speaker 3>is bacteria?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what? This isn't even a hill.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a dion Because to be fair, if anyone was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna start brushing their teeth in the sink, it would

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<v Speaker 3>be me.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got two sinks. I can afford to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do that, you know, but I won't because in the

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<v Speaker 3>shower is what the height.

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<v Speaker 4>Of luxury above. You got to see my taps at home.

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<v Speaker 4>I've moved into a new place. They're the taps that

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<v Speaker 4>have two different Yeah. Oh broh, Yeah, we're living in

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<v Speaker 4>the past.

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<v Speaker 2>The water. You know what I'm saying. I turned the

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<v Speaker 2>tap on.

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<v Speaker 4>The literally I have to go, and then if I go,

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<v Speaker 4>if I got a little bit too much, it's too much,

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<v Speaker 4>it's bang.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what you get.

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<v Speaker 3>Wanting to live in houses with character dead that dead

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<v Speaker 3>that you need one of those carbon copy from the plant,

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<v Speaker 3>the same marble. Every house is a duplicate. Don't take

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<v Speaker 3>any chances. It's not saying across. It's too much anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>And off of that, how many more days will we

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<v Speaker 3>be talking about toothbrushing?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we done?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done. I think I'm done too. I've done it

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<v Speaker 2>and it's no shade.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand. Once we have the conversation. You want to

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<v Speaker 3>have the conversation, but it's done. It's dead unless the

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<v Speaker 3>story is fresh. Leave it personally. If I can make

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<v Speaker 3>a request, I want to hear from people who share

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<v Speaker 3>toothbrushes but their significant other.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring me that. Oh, I've already done that. If you

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<v Speaker 2>know I want it. I want people to come in.

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<v Speaker 3>If you share a toothbrush, Willy nearly casually with Glee,

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<v Speaker 3>with your partner, best friend, family, mother, talk to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and Frooms on CADA today.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm flex and frooms. We're going to figure out how

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<v Speaker 3>not to take things personally.

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<v Speaker 2>I need this.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like everything is personal, and when I pretend

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<v Speaker 3>they're not, I'm doing myself a disservice. Okay, all things

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<v Speaker 3>good or bad, like you know, how some people don't

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<v Speaker 3>take compliments. They feel like people are being facetious, they're

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to fill gaps in conversation. I take them

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<v Speaker 3>really personally. You must be right, of course, I look amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would you like?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Pretty princess? Pretty princess?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Or on the adverse, if someone is giving me feedback

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<v Speaker 3>or critique, who.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I to not be like?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, they know they're hitting a spot anyway, we might

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<v Speaker 3>work on it, we might not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Interdependentness into connectedness.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure you're alone on that one. Hunt. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure anyway. Listen to this video. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 6>When I I'm teaching myself to not take things personally.

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<v Speaker 6>Every time someone does something annoying, I just think it's

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<v Speaker 6>because they're dumb or lazy, or a combination of both.

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<v Speaker 6>Every Time someone asks me to do something I don't

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<v Speaker 6>want to do, I just say I'm sorry, I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>smart enough to do this. Sorry, I'm just lazy. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to do it because in those states, nothing

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<v Speaker 6>can really compel someone, and that is just what life is.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you get older and you realize that you

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<v Speaker 6>can't really control anyone you can only influence them, and

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<v Speaker 6>the extent to wish you cannot. Can't influence someone just

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<v Speaker 6>isn't up to you at a certain point, either they

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<v Speaker 6>going to do it or they're not. Stop wasting your

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<v Speaker 6>energy and focus on the things that you actually like

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<v Speaker 6>that are going well, that you want to go well,

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<v Speaker 6>that don't involve you needing to wait for another person

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<v Speaker 6>to do something to give yourself permission to do what

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<v Speaker 6>you want to do. They're either dumb or they're lazy,

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<v Speaker 6>or a combination of both. You are dumb and lazy

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<v Speaker 6>in your own way too, and the ways that you

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<v Speaker 6>guys are dumb and lazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not compatible. And that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>That is my friend Amber a killer and from Australian,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know what, I like that my friends are thinkers,

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't necessarily agree. I don't whole hardly disagree either.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's making a really good point and I

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<v Speaker 3>like that the language she's using is the great equalizer,

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<v Speaker 3>just saying if you're dumb, you're lazy. It's boring and

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<v Speaker 3>have the capacity. It's like the apathy of it all

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<v Speaker 3>makes it all so much simpler to uncover. Question number one,

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<v Speaker 3>how do not.

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<v Speaker 2>How to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm struggling, hungry, how do not take things personally? Look,

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<v Speaker 3>I see where Amber's coming from in the sense that

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<v Speaker 3>if you view everyone and yourself as dumb and lazy,

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<v Speaker 3>then you kind of diffuse the way something hits. So

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<v Speaker 3>if somebody is being rude to you, well, they're dumb

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<v Speaker 3>for not treating you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. What I do think is that.

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<v Speaker 3>With Amber in particular, she walks through the world with

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<v Speaker 3>very high level of self awareness. She is an everyday

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<v Speaker 3>philosopher and every day thinker. That's what she does, and

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<v Speaker 3>she does well, So I think she's able to in practice,

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of nuance with that.

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<v Speaker 2>For the average person, I don't think it's gonna hit.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like when you say, like everybody is special, and

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<v Speaker 3>people run with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's stop doing that, Settle Petal.

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<v Speaker 4>At the start of the video, I thought she meant

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<v Speaker 4>she thinks everyone else is.

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<v Speaker 2>Dumb and lazy. Well, that's what she's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody you them, were all dumb and lazy. And so

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<v Speaker 3>the way you stop her personalizing thing, because usually what

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<v Speaker 3>happens when you take things personal, you're pedestalizing that person's

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<v Speaker 3>point of view over what you think or in some

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<v Speaker 3>ways you're saying that what they think in this moment,

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<v Speaker 3>what they're saying is of more value and must be true.

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<v Speaker 3>Therefore I have to sit with it. I have to

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<v Speaker 3>hold it as my own. So if you neutralize everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>and you say all the opinions are dumb, everybody's lazy,

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<v Speaker 3>where all idiots, then it doesn't really matter where it's

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<v Speaker 3>coming from, and what you choose to do with it

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<v Speaker 3>is an active choice.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in clown town. You're in clowntown, babe. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, but yeah, weret's a spice of life if

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<v Speaker 4>you neutralize everything, like maybe I can take on other

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<v Speaker 4>people's bad opinions of me, because then there's good ones

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<v Speaker 4>like for example, we just got an email really quick,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah not really quick, take your time, lavish in these words.

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<v Speaker 4>It has been sent on by my manager. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Look how long this email is? FLEXI whoa? This is

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<v Speaker 2>all praising WHOA. That's like eighth whoa like ten paragraphs.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, holy shit, let's just do the one that's about us. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a long.

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<v Speaker 4>Haul listener of flex and froomesh and have listened to

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<v Speaker 4>every EP at least once, most twice, first half of

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<v Speaker 4>them at least thrice.

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA, what's going on? Sex?

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<v Speaker 4>I moved to a new city five months ago, and

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<v Speaker 4>I've been working and studying from home, finishing my master's

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<v Speaker 4>in psychology.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you mind?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so sorry, don't play on talk pouring out?

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<v Speaker 2>It was an accident.

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<v Speaker 4>It was already open, pouring out our heart and soul

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<v Speaker 4>working home my masters in psychology, meaning that I was

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<v Speaker 4>stuck at home studying most of the time. And I've

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<v Speaker 4>been here so far. Your podcast keep me going and

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<v Speaker 4>gave the company laughs and resonating ideas I've needed on

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<v Speaker 4>more days than I can tell you. And then she said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I think this whole. I think this needs Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>this is like an art clap back to one of

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<v Speaker 4>the other listeners. Ooh about the member of the psychologist

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<v Speaker 4>that wrote in saying about the w Well, Yes, let's

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<v Speaker 4>do a zoom back to that Brook. I listened to

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<v Speaker 4>Yours and Flexes episode from yesterday where you spoke about therapy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a provisional psychologist, but also someone who's been in

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<v Speaker 4>therapy for ten years. Classic psychologists vibes, so I have

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<v Speaker 4>a fair bit of experience on both sides of LACOINNE.

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<v Speaker 4>My hot take is that you don't need to go

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<v Speaker 4>to therapy if you don't have goals or are a

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<v Speaker 4>bit stagnant, you need a life coach or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>In UNI, I remember learning that the majority of our

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<v Speaker 4>clients are what is referred to as the worried Well, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>nothing wrong with you, but you think you need to

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<v Speaker 4>be in therapy. Therapy is for people with mental health

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<v Speaker 4>issues in brackets anxiety, depression, personality disorders, phobias, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>Etc.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's to use a therapeutic tool to work through that.

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<v Speaker 4>The worried well, just take up resources that are actually

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<v Speaker 4>for people struggling.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now we're booming out. Thanksbook for doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Secondly, your approach to mental health is awesome. And also

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<v Speaker 4>she's bolded awesome, so effing cool. For legal reasons, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not writing as a provisional psychoic just about to be registered.

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<v Speaker 4>But the listener who recently wrote in as a provincial

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<v Speaker 4>the provisional psychologists biting each other. The listener who recently

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<v Speaker 4>wrote in as a provisional psych who had done ten

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<v Speaker 4>years of therapy shook me to my core. I have

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<v Speaker 4>also been on both sides of the psychology seat like

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<v Speaker 4>that listener, and their messaging disturbed me deeply. Frankly, it

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<v Speaker 4>pissed me off back into the bolds. Your response was

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<v Speaker 4>spot on. I know you probably know this, but I

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<v Speaker 4>would never want to condescend. But I just want to

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<v Speaker 4>balance out that voice and show my support for your perspective. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>people who are really seriously mentally ill need psychologists, but

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<v Speaker 4>normalizing seeking psychological help is the first step that reduces

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<v Speaker 4>the amount of people who would become seriously mentally ill.

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<v Speaker 4>What's it called when you prevention over cure? Psychology masters

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<v Speaker 4>are really competitive to get into. We need to find

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<v Speaker 4>more positions in those masters programs, which is only made

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<v Speaker 4>more likely by increasing the number of people who access

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<v Speaker 4>and value psychology services. When it comes to Oussie seeking

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<v Speaker 4>mental health care, again, bold more is more. We all

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<v Speaker 4>know too many young men firsthand or by degree of separation,

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<v Speaker 4>who are very privileged and functional from the outside perspective,

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<v Speaker 4>and yet they self harm. This worried world concept makes

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<v Speaker 4>me sick and contributes to those terrifying statistics around the

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<v Speaker 4>yeat of young men. That's just one example, but the

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<v Speaker 4>premise applies to everyone, as you said yourself, eating Oh

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<v Speaker 4>my god, we're hitting every every category here. Eating disorders

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<v Speaker 4>do have the highest fatality of any into illness. Stand

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<v Speaker 4>up queens, and then finally, fuck the worried well. Everyone

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<v Speaker 4>seeking help deserves to receive it. I even know too

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<v Speaker 4>many people personally who have had textbook objectively awful traumatic

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<v Speaker 4>experiences who think they don't deserve psychological treatment because of

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<v Speaker 4>stigmatizing awful beliefs. Out of the amounts of people like

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<v Speaker 4>that one listener, we were honestly, this is like that.

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<v Speaker 4>She has put into words the words that I could

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<v Speaker 4>not find. But you did put it into words. You

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<v Speaker 4>articulated yourself. Thanks An, Well you did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, she makes a lot of good points. I love

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<v Speaker 4>her the most beautiful praise. Just imagine someone's sitting down

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<v Speaker 4>at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Laptop so intentional, right, taking out the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Tippity tapping out, and it just goes on. But I

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<v Speaker 4>will literally, yeah, anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to it. No, that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, it's that podcast. I won't say your name, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know who you are. Yeah, I hope she listens

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<v Speaker 4>back to this allyst three times.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think you should send the link back, or

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<v Speaker 3>just at least respond and be like, hey, obsessed, we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it today, Okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Will I love that. Wow, that's really made my day.

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<v Speaker 2>Love a bit of fis as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Flex and Frooms on Kada.

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<v Speaker 4>You are with Flex and Frooms on this sunny Thursday

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<v Speaker 4>afternoon in Sydney and surrounds and elsewhere wherever.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening while we are spending our time dipping into

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<v Speaker 3>our personal experiences and yours to ensure that everybody leaves

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<v Speaker 3>this planet experiencing the most fruitful of romantic love. I

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<v Speaker 3>came across a little video of someone shooting their shot

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<v Speaker 3>in a way that I would almost describe as a

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<v Speaker 3>vintage and.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, are we back here? Is this what we

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<v Speaker 2>need to be doing? Maybe? Maybe not? Let me know

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<v Speaker 2>after you listen to this video. Police. Hello everyone, my

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<v Speaker 2>name is Ellie. I'm honest to Common Program, and I

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<v Speaker 2>see you, and tonight is my last shift.

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<v Speaker 6>And I see you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to give a doctor that i've been

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<v Speaker 2>flooding me a note with my number on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Here is the note, and I'm going to do it

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<v Speaker 4>all in one TikTok from me tonight giving the.

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<v Speaker 2>Notes and afterwards, so stay tuned. Here's the note.

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<v Speaker 4>The note says, I'm never going to see you again,

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<v Speaker 4>so shooting my shot? Coffee sometimes question Mike, message me

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<v Speaker 4>yuse if you have a partner, Sorry to throw this.

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<v Speaker 3>Out long now there is approximately another thirty second set video.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need it.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't need it. We got all we need from

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<v Speaker 3>that right now. I have a question. Would you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Write a letter to someone to shoot your shot?

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<v Speaker 2>A letter? A note? Relax, write a note?

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<v Speaker 3>Or would you be responsive to someone writing you a

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<v Speaker 3>note to.

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<v Speaker 2>Shoot their shot? This has happened to me before. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>in a gym, Oh I just go everywhere? I was

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor. Can I just launch on?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Launche?

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<v Speaker 4>I was on the floor doing some like doing floor

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<v Speaker 4>exercises in the gym, I know, in front of a mirror.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I could ever.

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<v Speaker 4>And I like, how the how did I get the note?

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<v Speaker 4>I like looked to my side and there was a

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<v Speaker 4>little note with.

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<v Speaker 2>A heart like fold and I started unfolding it. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, what is this? What is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Watching me scrunch it up again and like ran out

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<v Speaker 4>the door, like there was a little balcony in the gym, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I ran out of the door, closed.

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<v Speaker 4>The door and opened it up, and it was like,

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<v Speaker 4>you just have a really cool look. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 4>take you out one day. Here's my number, here's my name.

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<v Speaker 3>Not even leaving the socials, because the name and number

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<v Speaker 3>thing is what gets me.

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<v Speaker 2>A raw name and number you ate a social well

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<v Speaker 2>it goes further.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to go back into the gym and I've

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<v Speaker 4>locked myself out on the balcony with this, with this note,

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<v Speaker 4>no phone. I had my phone. Thanks, it was live

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<v Speaker 4>stream the whole thing. Of course, this was like five

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<v Speaker 4>years ago. And I looked up and found his name,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know when you can google the phone number.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, found the name on Facebook. What's his profile picture?

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<v Speaker 4>You it's him at the races with speed dealers on

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<v Speaker 4>drinking a Bundy and coke through a wire fence.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet he thought that you were the one. So

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<v Speaker 2>what are you giving us?

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<v Speaker 4>And I was slaying at the time. I must admit,

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<v Speaker 4>shaved head, you've been slaying, so that's not new. That's

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<v Speaker 4>not new. So I was giving. But that was like

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<v Speaker 4>a very flattering and be very terrifying safe to say

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<v Speaker 4>I left the gym sometime after that canceled the membership.

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<v Speaker 4>It was such a car and I was like, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say I was harassed so I can

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<v Speaker 4>get money back.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's pretty full on again. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>in my head, I'd be like, this is a funny

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do. Let's do it. Let's send a note,

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<v Speaker 2>leave an apt or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But then on the recipient, if there's like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of pressure, it's like, damn, I gotta respond asap, show

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<v Speaker 3>you know, mutual first. In the same way, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like i'd like it's more of a yes,

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<v Speaker 3>no no. For me, it's more of a yes, no,

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<v Speaker 3>no no. I think we need to incorporate it. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think we should. It should be the primary method,

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<v Speaker 3>but definitely if you know it to yes, it's definitely

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<v Speaker 3>a yes, we do have to go. But I can

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<v Speaker 3>say that he did respond, should I share that information now?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Wanted to get your consent first, so he said, hey, Ellie,

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<v Speaker 3>so and so here, super sweet, no, and such a

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<v Speaker 3>nice gesture. I really enjoyed working with you and the banter.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to talk about banter. To talk about it,

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<v Speaker 3>I do have a partner, but thought you deserved a response.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope tonight isn't too shit with You're all the best. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I will say that she said that this is someone

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<v Speaker 3>she's been flirting with, and that's what gave her the

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<v Speaker 3>impression that she should in fact shoot the shot.

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<v Speaker 2>So do with that what you will. Shout out to Ellie.

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<v Speaker 3>I love when people share their business on the internet

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<v Speaker 3>for our entertainment. You're amazing. Keep shooting a shot in

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<v Speaker 3>this way. You're bold and I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, I think people missing story floating.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I flat with everyone exactly, So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>get I think we are the problem though.

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<v Speaker 4>For sure, flex and frooms FLEXI. We always come to

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<v Speaker 4>the table with some sort of dilemma. This one is

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<v Speaker 4>from a woman called redacted. Yeah, we're not saying it's

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<v Speaker 4>just a highly anonymous situation. She said it to me

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<v Speaker 4>and then I said, can you please send it in

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<v Speaker 4>a voice note. She said, oh my god, cry cry face. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I will do now Ooh that.

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<v Speaker 5>My am I the asshole. So my boyfriend who's twenty three,

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<v Speaker 5>and myself who's twenty have very different relationships with parents.

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<v Speaker 4>I've always also, can I just say slang on the

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<v Speaker 4>gen Z audience obsessed one of ours, one of ours.

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<v Speaker 5>Always been encouraged to independently think and girl lost my

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<v Speaker 5>way through life, whereas he's always been sort of fed

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<v Speaker 5>a cheeky silver spoon and always listen to the direction

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<v Speaker 5>of parents. So we're just having a bit of trouble

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<v Speaker 5>because I am I the arsehole for not knowing how

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<v Speaker 5>to support him, because I'm always being like, just get

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<v Speaker 5>it together, like why are you not rationalizing? Like who

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<v Speaker 5>cares if you upset them? But he obviously has no

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<v Speaker 5>idea how to sort of be like that. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>so to preface, like we both live at home, so obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>like you know, you have to live within your parents'

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<v Speaker 5>boundaries and everything, but even myself, like I always push

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<v Speaker 5>my boundaries at home because I think that without being

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<v Speaker 5>allowed to do that, Like how are you supposed to

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<v Speaker 5>independently and freely think? But he obviously doesn't have that,

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<v Speaker 5>So it's, yeah, it's a bit hard because am I

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<v Speaker 5>the asshole? Because I can't you support him or tell

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<v Speaker 5>him how to do it properly, like you know, figure

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<v Speaker 5>out everything.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, sisus twenty a man yep bo thinking you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a big one, because you know, while that voice

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<v Speaker 3>memo was playing through me, gestured to herself as in

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<v Speaker 3>being someone who resonates with the guy in the situation.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm definitely the girl in the situation. Not that

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<v Speaker 3>my parents weren't necessarily like that or my mum, but

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<v Speaker 3>I felt really strongly about challenging boundaries and being my

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<v Speaker 3>own person and understanding the logic behind decisions that were

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<v Speaker 3>made on behalf of me or behalf of the family

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a pretty.

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<v Speaker 3>Difficult place to be in if you choose it later on, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So my whole energy is being a challenger. And I

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<v Speaker 3>definitely wasn't this like abrasive, as like a little person,

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<v Speaker 3>but enough that I was like, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Bine, but whine, and I want to do it this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want to do it that. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So you kind of you created a dynamic where

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<v Speaker 3>your parents get used to you challenging, and they can

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<v Speaker 3>choose to kind of like la la l l la

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<v Speaker 3>la la la zone you out or create a dynamic

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<v Speaker 3>where you're now collaborating or whatever. At twenty three, though,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's a very difficult place to start

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't have plans to leave your family home.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a family home because I moved up when I

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<v Speaker 3>was like nineteen twenty. It's very easy to be like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing big girl now and then just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>do it behind your parents back, and then you'd be like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm back, got.

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<v Speaker 2>Some new tattoos? How are you? Yeah? Nice.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very tricky and also in this position having to

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<v Speaker 3>be the person who's like, I'm going to help him

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<v Speaker 3>do the stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too much.

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<v Speaker 4>I will admit, Oh, I say, yes, this silver spoon bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a born and braised rat. Yes, oh sorry, brat,

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<v Speaker 4>but that was why I'm a rat.

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<v Speaker 2>You met what you said. The rats don't run the city.

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<v Speaker 2>We do.

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<v Speaker 4>But I yeah, I relate in a sense of not

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<v Speaker 4>thinking for myself because I agree with my parents all

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<v Speaker 4>the time and I still do them. I agree with

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<v Speaker 4>my mum a lot, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 4>we've got the same sense of a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I haven't been in a situation where I

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<v Speaker 4>completely disagree with my parents in a way that they're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna like discipline me for not agreeing. Like, for example,

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<v Speaker 4>I disagree with my dad all the time, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think he sent me knows that he's not that he

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<v Speaker 4>knows he's wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>But you've had enough instances where you get you agree

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<v Speaker 3>on most things. This is just like a judgment call.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just like let bygones be got by gone type thing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I can get mad.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, I've got different ideas about certain things, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. Like he's he's an older gentleman. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>he's living in the past, which slay I would too,

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it wouldn't be an issue when he said

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<v Speaker 4>something I don't like, I say, can you shut the three?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Like for example, yeah I disagree with my dad, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>say something. I'm not gonna risk him like kick him

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<v Speaker 4>out because I don't live there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, But in this instance, you have this guy who

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<v Speaker 3>similar to you, like gets along with his parents, and

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<v Speaker 3>when he doesn't or when his girlfriend is like illuminating

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<v Speaker 3>something and be like, hey, that's not really on, he's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, oh, well, like yeah you additionally, yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think she's right in you know, maybe he's maybe his

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<v Speaker 4>parents don't listen to him more like don't treat him

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<v Speaker 4>like an adult, in which case I think even if

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<v Speaker 4>you live with the parents, they should try and treat

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<v Speaker 4>you like an adult. If you're over the age of fifteen, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, or eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>If we weren't in a rental crisis, I said move out. However,

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<v Speaker 3>in this instance, I have learned over my time of

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<v Speaker 3>dating people whose family dynamics that I found were contradictory

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<v Speaker 3>to mine, is that you just can't tell people who

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<v Speaker 3>they are, what they feel, what they're experiencing, and you

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<v Speaker 3>are on the outskirts of this established dynamic. What you

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<v Speaker 3>say does not matter in the grand scheme of things,

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<v Speaker 3>and you risk the harmony of your primary relationship with

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<v Speaker 3>your partner by dabbling in some businesses unfortunately not yours.

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<v Speaker 3>So while you have thoughts and opinions and impressions, you

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<v Speaker 3>put this burden on your partner who clearly does not

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<v Speaker 3>have the power or the permit to make any changes

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<v Speaker 3>in his household dynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like amplifying the issue.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel like, if you really care, spend more

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<v Speaker 3>time understanding it from his perspective, as opposed to wanting

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<v Speaker 3>him to challenge his whole family structure for your benefit

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<v Speaker 3>and just stay.

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<v Speaker 4>At your parents' house. Yeah, don't go over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, make some excuses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but love.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Queen, thanks so much. I love this.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say, given that Wa're twenty four, we

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<v Speaker 4>are aging a little bit out of the gen Z

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<v Speaker 4>little mindset, but happy to be with our people there,

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<v Speaker 4>our young twenty year old queeness.

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