1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: In the studio with us this morning. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 2: The Lord Mayor of Darwin conbat scarlets and he came 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: bearing gifts today. 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 1: Good morning, gone. 5 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 3: Well, I just gave you the one thousand and one 6 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 3: tree because we gave another thousand middle bitch last weekend 7 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 3: and that was really could turn out. So another thousand 8 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: trees gone to the urban forest in Darwin. And of 9 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 3: course two little robots because it's Science Week and we 10 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: invite all kids from all schools to participate. Yes, there 11 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: were about forty kids in the civic center playing on 12 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 3: the floor and I have to say I did a 13 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: go to with the trains, robots, robot trains, robot cleaners. 14 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: You just got the robot cleaner. It's a great idea. 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 3: Bring the kids along. Talk to your school. We're always 16 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: happy to help. 17 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon, it is fantastic. 18 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: And you know, for the kids to have a bit 19 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: of fun with science and with their education is a 20 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: wonderful way to endang. 21 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: The next scientist famous all over the world might be 22 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: the one who came to the Civic Center in Darwin. 23 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. You never know, is there a bit 24 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: on for Science Week from the castles? 25 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: We need to know all the tales because I don't 26 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: have all the interior with me. Go to us face 27 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: to our web website and you find all the details there. 28 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what, kids, it's fun. Ask mom 29 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: and dad to take you there. 30 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: Hey, conn Before I get into some of the other 31 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: issues of the week, can I ask is the council 32 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: still lit up for the Matilda's or are you gonna 33 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: be tomorrow night? 34 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: What's the plans? 35 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 4: You see? What's going to happen tomorrow tomorrow night? Is 36 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 4: it going to be green and gold? Is going to be? Often? 37 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 4: It will be green and gold? 38 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: I keep my fingers closed hours in Litzfield on Saturday 39 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: and I went straight back to the caravan park tent 40 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: television on watching the Matildas. 41 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: What again? 42 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: What again? What a game? My fingernails, I tell you what. 43 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: I was stressed watching that on. 44 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 4: SEGN soccer or football the real football. 45 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: No, I'm well, I take my kids there every weekend, 46 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: so we've been doing it for a while. But it's 47 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: just been phenomenal to watch it is. Honestly, it's been incredible. 48 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: They've done such a phenomenal job and hopefully we have 49 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: another win tomorrow night. 50 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Now Corn I do want to ask you. 51 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: It's been reported in the Inte News this morning that 52 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: the City of Darwin orldman is seething after being handed 53 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: a Code of Conduct warning after a social media post 54 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: lyones Lord Alderman Amy Uhn said that she was being 55 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: bullied and her basic rights ignored after receiving the Code 56 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: of interest from the City of Darwin Chief Executive Simone 57 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: Saunders on Friday. So the social media post followed a 58 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: report in the Northern Territory News in June that revealed 59 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: retired Alderman Paul Arnold had received a one hundred thousand 60 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: dollars Northern Territory government grant to expand his Smith Street 61 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: gallery several weeks after he was issued with a domestic 62 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: violence order. 63 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: Well, I'm very disappointed with counsel Un going to the 64 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: media and creating a story out of nor story. First 65 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: of all, counsel Un was never bullied. Counsel on Un 66 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 3: was given an email by the CEO that will draw 67 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: your attention to the post that can create potential serious 68 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: problem for cash Un. First of all, in here Facebook 69 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 3: post his calls from now on, I like to make 70 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: friends with mister al Keby and other zombies. I consider 71 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 3: that totally unacceptable for an elected member to call a 72 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: minis of the crown. 73 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: Does matter who is a zombie. 74 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: Second, she creates problems from herself because says split one 75 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars grant to ten thousand dollars to give 76 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: to its business. Considering that council owns, goored a business yourself, 77 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: people can perceive that's actually there's a conflict of vendors 78 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: there because you ask it for ten thousand dollars given 79 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: to business. Is that include your own business? And of 80 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: course the other thing is which is the most important. 81 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: The CEO did what the CEO is expected to do legally. See, 82 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: he has to advise an elected member, any elected member, 83 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: and she has done that in the past. 84 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: If there is a problem with. 85 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: The social posts, there is a policy on social media 86 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: which has been put to the council. Council adopted it, 87 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: accepted it, and Council UN voted for it. So council 88 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: will vote for a pology that. Now she's in Bridge 89 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: and now when the CEO brings that to her attention, 90 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: she screened blue murder that's been bullied. The Council UN 91 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: was not bullied casual as a matter of fact, came 92 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: to my office and she has showed my advice on 93 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: this issue. And I assure here this is not a 94 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: form of complaint. We have received complain but the last 95 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: thing we need is because of this post to receive 96 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: a complaint. So my recommendation was to hear, go back, 97 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: look at your post and my advice is take it down. 98 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: But the point that you might dea about whether it's 99 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: a conflict of interest for her to be saying, you know, 100 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: these one hundred thousand dollar grants could then go to 101 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: ten different businesses around the city. I mean, was it 102 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: a conflict of interest in the first place that Paul 103 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: Arnold did receive one hundred thousand dollars grant. 104 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: Well, have to remember that these applications are going a 105 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 3: long long time before and the decision made. Now the 106 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: fact that was granted after he was issued with DV 107 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: oh it's irrelevant for the same reason and DVO may 108 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: be issues irrelevant well, Paul Arnold, he has been found 109 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: guilt in the court of law. Paul Arnold is still innocent. 110 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: That's what happens in Australia now until and the minister 111 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: when he gets the application probably received it about six 112 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: months before Paul was handed the DVO. I mean, you 113 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: don't examine if people had fines or anything else. The 114 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: divo might be valid and I have no idea about it, 115 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 3: or might be thrown out of court. So my problem 116 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: is and I said to her, be very careful what 117 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: you put because when you're an elected member, you're an 118 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: elected member. I mean, we see the argument with the 119 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: Chief Minister now all the UNDI frager says, Oh no, 120 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: it's we're entitled to actually protest in her house and 121 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: everywhere else because of a public. 122 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: Person, even in her private life. That's what I said 123 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 4: to her. 124 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: When we're elected and we make a comment, they don't 125 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: say convicts college did They said the Lord Mayor made 126 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: a comment, not counselor not Amune coultural. 127 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: Or Oh she's told the NT News that she feels 128 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: bullied and belittled by the City of Darwin and the 129 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: social media posts should not be impacted, should not be 130 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: impacted by a code of conduct because it was on 131 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: her personal Facebook account. 132 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: The policy in the Council, which Councilor Wull voted for, 133 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: specifically says that even private postings are subject to the policy, 134 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: so you can't have it both ways. 135 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: So, based on what I'm reading here, it is the 136 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: second time she said, it's the second time that she's 137 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 2: been accused of violating Council's Code of conduct. What happens 138 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: if he continue to violate us? 139 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: Well, the problem is if we receive a complaint, then 140 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: we have to start the process of a bridge of 141 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: cond of conduct. The cont of contact is legislated by 142 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: the Act. It's nothing to do with the Council. We 143 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: have to do it every single elected member in the territory. 144 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: It's subject to the Court of Conduct. Now, the fact 145 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: that she bridged the policy, it's actually bridging the cond 146 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: of conduct. We can actually escalate it. But again as 147 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 3: to hear being stood down, no, she can be reprimanded, 148 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 3: so she can lose a salary or anything else. It 149 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: depends on the seriousness. But again there's not a reason 150 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: to be there. Be careful what you put in your 151 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: social posts. The social post read by everybody, and then 152 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: don't read us, Katie Wolf. They read it us one 153 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: go four point nine presender send it and you try 154 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: to tell that so was my private conduct. Bravid comment. 155 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: Good luck to you. My comment is she was never bulleted. 156 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: She received a friendly advice as required to do the 157 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: CEO required to do. And the CEO has done that 158 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: in the past to other people that actually they had 159 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: some issues, and she will do it again because if 160 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: she doesn't do it, I will hold my CIO accountable 161 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: for not doing your job. 162 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: All right, col I do want to just ask you 163 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: before I let you go. 164 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: This morning, we know that there's a number of people 165 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: who've stepped forward to throw their hats in the ring 166 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: for the by election for the Lion's Board. Mad Snake 167 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: owner Sam Western Green's candidate Suki Duras, Walker, Shannon Joyce, 168 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: who runs the Mango Inquirer, Leah Potter, and Adam Tron 169 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: so far declaring their intention to run. 170 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: Any idea when did I need to have put their 171 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: hand up? 172 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: By if there are other people out there listening this 173 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: morning who are thinking, do you know what I'd like 174 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: to have a crack? 175 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: The nomineus closed today of August and the election will 176 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: be on the second of September. I'm very pleased to 177 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: see so many people that put their hand up. That 178 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: shows induriest knock unity. People have to make up their mind. 179 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: I know most of them. But the only person I 180 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: don't know is the person is Greenny because I never 181 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: met him personally. I know Adam met him many times before. 182 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: An o leopotter who does no Leo poter. 183 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 4: I know. 184 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: Because some of. 185 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: His posts are very very funny, and I think he 186 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: had to go at Aimy on the past. 187 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 4: I'm not saved, and Namy was not very impressed about it. 188 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: And also I know same Matt Snake, which I know 189 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: very well as an ex Defense Forces personnel myself. Another 190 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 3: job he's done for the veterans, and he's been advocating 191 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: for a long time about safety in our city. So 192 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: good luck, guys. I'm glad you put your hand up. 193 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: I'm very pleased to see there's interest to be elected 194 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: in the council. 195 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 4: Be prepared. If you're elected, you're not a private individual anymore. 196 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: You'll be an elected member and everybody will say, oh, 197 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: you're an electman for allions. 198 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: You're not Sam or Joe or Lear or anything else. 199 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: But it's very rewarding because you do some for your 200 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: community to the community. Put your thinking cap on. Think 201 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: who represent who will represents your best, who can do 202 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: things for you? 203 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 4: And work for the best 204 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: Person absolutely combat scolars, Lord Mayor of Dawen, thanks for 205 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: your time this morning,