1 00:00:10,204 --> 00:00:13,484 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts here, more Gold one on one point 2 00:00:13,524 --> 00:00:15,204 Speaker 1: seven podcasts. 3 00:00:14,604 --> 00:00:19,163 Speaker 2: Playlists and listen live on the Free iHeart app and 4 00:00:19,364 --> 00:00:21,044 Speaker 2: Amanda jam Nation. 5 00:00:21,364 --> 00:00:25,803 Speaker 1: The next guest is an architecture of Shionado, a comic, 6 00:00:26,284 --> 00:00:28,404 Speaker 1: an extraordinary man. We love him Tim Ross. He's got 7 00:00:28,444 --> 00:00:30,924 Speaker 1: a new book called What a Ripper. We've been looking 8 00:00:30,964 --> 00:00:32,804 Speaker 1: at it all morning. We just love it. A nostalgic 9 00:00:32,884 --> 00:00:36,324 Speaker 1: look at Australian designs and products from the sixties. Hello 10 00:00:36,444 --> 00:00:38,564 Speaker 1: Tim period, Hey, how are we What have we bought 11 00:00:38,604 --> 00:00:39,684 Speaker 1: with you for Show and Tell? 12 00:00:39,844 --> 00:00:42,524 Speaker 3: Well, I've thought that it is show and tell. It's 13 00:00:42,564 --> 00:00:45,524 Speaker 3: the decoy wine. Cool. So you talk about the things 14 00:00:45,524 --> 00:00:47,723 Speaker 3: that are Astralian and your producers out the front they 15 00:00:47,724 --> 00:00:50,684 Speaker 3: are all going mad over it because they all remember 16 00:00:51,324 --> 00:00:52,324 Speaker 3: them when they were kids. 17 00:00:52,444 --> 00:00:53,564 Speaker 4: Is this an Australian design? 18 00:00:53,644 --> 00:00:55,324 Speaker 3: I never knew it? So what would happened? You know? 19 00:00:55,364 --> 00:00:57,804 Speaker 3: You go after the Chinese restaurant, yep, and you put 20 00:00:57,804 --> 00:01:00,324 Speaker 3: your two bottles of reaseling in either side, Yes, and 21 00:01:00,324 --> 00:01:01,524 Speaker 3: then you put it on the table and then you 22 00:01:01,604 --> 00:01:03,844 Speaker 3: leave it there to drive home drunk and then have 23 00:01:03,884 --> 00:01:04,564 Speaker 3: to buy another one. 24 00:01:06,244 --> 00:01:07,644 Speaker 5: There was a time where you were seeing those out 25 00:01:07,644 --> 00:01:09,004 Speaker 5: on junk poles, but not any. 26 00:01:09,283 --> 00:01:11,284 Speaker 3: It's very collectible. But what made them so special is 27 00:01:11,283 --> 00:01:13,604 Speaker 3: they had a little cylinder in the middle that you 28 00:01:13,684 --> 00:01:15,164 Speaker 3: fill up with water, put it in the freezer and 29 00:01:15,244 --> 00:01:18,884 Speaker 3: that keeps your drinks. Really cool man. But the wonderful 30 00:01:18,884 --> 00:01:22,284 Speaker 3: thing about it was that super nice design. But it 31 00:01:22,324 --> 00:01:25,804 Speaker 3: won the Prince Philip Design Award in nineteen seventy nine. 32 00:01:26,203 --> 00:01:28,524 Speaker 3: Prince Philip liked it so much he took one home 33 00:01:28,564 --> 00:01:31,724 Speaker 3: to Buckingham Palace and it's also in the Museum of 34 00:01:31,764 --> 00:01:33,244 Speaker 3: Modern Arts permanent collection. 35 00:01:33,444 --> 00:01:33,644 Speaker 2: Yeah. 36 00:01:33,764 --> 00:01:35,404 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a piece of Strangers. 37 00:01:34,964 --> 00:01:37,084 Speaker 4: On I was reading and how does this happen? 38 00:01:37,444 --> 00:01:37,804 Speaker 3: Wasn't it? 39 00:01:37,844 --> 00:01:40,604 Speaker 1: Was it true that the Queen was involved in the 40 00:01:40,604 --> 00:01:42,444 Speaker 1: invention of air regard or something? 41 00:01:42,644 --> 00:01:45,084 Speaker 3: Yeah, So what happened with a regard was that before 42 00:01:45,124 --> 00:01:47,204 Speaker 3: World War Two there was this gentleman at the CSIRO 43 00:01:47,364 --> 00:01:50,164 Speaker 3: who was making it like a fly repellent for sheep. 44 00:01:50,884 --> 00:01:52,924 Speaker 3: And then World War two broke out and they needed 45 00:01:52,924 --> 00:01:55,924 Speaker 3: something for the troops, and so he adapted it to 46 00:01:55,964 --> 00:01:58,404 Speaker 3: be like what was air reguard. And then as soon 47 00:01:58,444 --> 00:01:59,884 Speaker 3: as the war was over, they just went, oh, let's 48 00:01:59,924 --> 00:02:01,964 Speaker 3: go back to looking after sheep. So he went back 49 00:02:01,964 --> 00:02:03,764 Speaker 3: working out it to stop them from getting sheep dip 50 00:02:03,804 --> 00:02:06,284 Speaker 3: or whatever it is or whatever fly Blaine. And then 51 00:02:06,444 --> 00:02:08,323 Speaker 3: when the Queen came out on the tour in the 52 00:02:08,364 --> 00:02:11,163 Speaker 3: nineteen fifties, they're worried about her doing this a strained 53 00:02:11,204 --> 00:02:14,324 Speaker 3: salute on television. So someone said, rang up the CSIRO 54 00:02:14,483 --> 00:02:16,164 Speaker 3: and said, if you still got that muk that keeps 55 00:02:16,204 --> 00:02:18,724 Speaker 3: the flies away. They gave it to the queen. She 56 00:02:18,884 --> 00:02:23,444 Speaker 3: used it. Someone noticed on TV that she wasn't shewing 57 00:02:23,483 --> 00:02:27,043 Speaker 3: them away. So Marteene rang up the CSI roh because 58 00:02:27,363 --> 00:02:29,804 Speaker 3: there was a big news story. Rang up the CSIRO 59 00:02:30,043 --> 00:02:33,524 Speaker 3: and said, what's this formula? And in those days you 60 00:02:33,644 --> 00:02:36,444 Speaker 3: were csiro. If you rang up, they would give you whatever, 61 00:02:36,684 --> 00:02:40,844 Speaker 3: whatever reason. So they just gave it to Martine and 62 00:02:40,884 --> 00:02:45,284 Speaker 3: they created very ga who got it for nothing? Wow. Yeah, 63 00:02:45,444 --> 00:02:46,804 Speaker 3: have a good weekends. 64 00:02:47,564 --> 00:02:50,444 Speaker 1: In that book, it's so nostalgic. It's the sharp, the 65 00:02:50,483 --> 00:02:53,404 Speaker 1: Wilshaar knife and sharp curious. 66 00:02:53,124 --> 00:02:55,484 Speaker 2: What we're doing renovations on the kitchen. There's a woolshare 67 00:02:55,923 --> 00:02:57,204 Speaker 2: stay sharp knife. 68 00:02:56,884 --> 00:02:59,603 Speaker 3: Block attached to the don't I don't reckon? 69 00:02:59,644 --> 00:03:02,203 Speaker 2: They worked no knife in them and the young trade. 70 00:03:02,204 --> 00:03:04,404 Speaker 2: He was just demolished in the kitchen I went what. 71 00:03:04,684 --> 00:03:06,964 Speaker 2: He goes, what even is this thing? And I said, 72 00:03:06,964 --> 00:03:07,923 Speaker 2: you put a knife in it? 73 00:03:08,363 --> 00:03:10,403 Speaker 5: And he said, wow, that must have been fun in 74 00:03:10,444 --> 00:03:12,523 Speaker 5: the olden days. So I've got it. 75 00:03:12,844 --> 00:03:15,323 Speaker 2: I've put it in my garage now because it's exactly 76 00:03:15,324 --> 00:03:16,764 Speaker 2: like the ones on the cover of your book. 77 00:03:16,803 --> 00:03:19,203 Speaker 1: And also there's the cafe bar. Didn't know that was 78 00:03:19,244 --> 00:03:21,324 Speaker 1: an Australian invention. I was with beyond two thousand. I 79 00:03:21,324 --> 00:03:23,364 Speaker 1: was at the Jet Propulsion Lab doing a story on 80 00:03:23,404 --> 00:03:26,684 Speaker 1: the future of space exploration and they're using a cafe 81 00:03:26,724 --> 00:03:28,444 Speaker 1: bar and the powdered milk. 82 00:03:28,844 --> 00:03:30,404 Speaker 4: I love a cafe bar. Now. 83 00:03:30,684 --> 00:03:32,724 Speaker 3: Well, going down to your local Tai Power most of 84 00:03:32,764 --> 00:03:35,884 Speaker 3: them still got one in there, but they call them 85 00:03:36,164 --> 00:03:41,004 Speaker 3: like cockroach coffins. The cockroaches used to get in the back. 86 00:03:41,164 --> 00:03:41,363 Speaker 1: Yeah. 87 00:03:41,844 --> 00:03:44,284 Speaker 3: I mean it's really just a fancy and they came 88 00:03:44,324 --> 00:03:46,844 Speaker 3: in all these wonderful colors. Yeah, and people love them. 89 00:03:46,884 --> 00:03:48,924 Speaker 3: And right at the end they were making them and 90 00:03:48,964 --> 00:03:51,004 Speaker 3: they were updating them, updating, and the guys who designed 91 00:03:51,044 --> 00:03:53,164 Speaker 3: it said to cafe bar, so we've got this idea, 92 00:03:53,204 --> 00:03:55,484 Speaker 3: which was a bit like an espresso yep. And they 93 00:03:55,484 --> 00:03:57,764 Speaker 3: didn't commit. They stayed with the. 94 00:03:58,164 --> 00:04:00,564 Speaker 4: I bet their grandkids are kicking themselves. 95 00:04:00,044 --> 00:04:01,004 Speaker 3: And would have been them. 96 00:04:01,684 --> 00:04:03,524 Speaker 5: The Corona bathroom stool. 97 00:04:03,884 --> 00:04:06,564 Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is a great, great invention because they 98 00:04:06,564 --> 00:04:09,284 Speaker 3: were originally for, you know, to put in your bar room. 99 00:04:09,484 --> 00:04:12,884 Speaker 3: And then in the late nineteen seventies those tabletop arcades 100 00:04:12,924 --> 00:04:15,724 Speaker 3: like Space Invaders and Frogger came in and so they 101 00:04:15,764 --> 00:04:18,964 Speaker 3: were adapted and everyone sat on those to play the machines. 102 00:04:19,044 --> 00:04:20,724 Speaker 4: What would you use in your bathroom to do your 103 00:04:20,724 --> 00:04:21,764 Speaker 4: makeup or something. 104 00:04:21,803 --> 00:04:23,484 Speaker 3: I put a towel on or something. I don't know, 105 00:04:23,644 --> 00:04:24,644 Speaker 3: I actually really don't know. 106 00:04:25,324 --> 00:04:27,084 Speaker 5: You can assemble it because it came in two bits 107 00:04:27,084 --> 00:04:27,363 Speaker 5: bits and. 108 00:04:27,404 --> 00:04:29,204 Speaker 3: You could take the top off like a frisbee. But 109 00:04:29,284 --> 00:04:30,484 Speaker 3: also in those days. 110 00:04:30,284 --> 00:04:31,644 Speaker 5: You could put stuff inside it. 111 00:04:32,084 --> 00:04:34,924 Speaker 3: Yes, you put you're talking about when they put putting 112 00:04:34,964 --> 00:04:37,364 Speaker 3: carpet in bathrooms in the nineteen seventies. So it was 113 00:04:37,524 --> 00:04:40,004 Speaker 3: it was very much heightened. It was all those oranges 114 00:04:40,044 --> 00:04:41,363 Speaker 3: and browns and yellow. 115 00:04:41,204 --> 00:04:44,604 Speaker 1: Yes, and all the TV ads and shows women sat 116 00:04:44,684 --> 00:04:46,524 Speaker 1: down in front of a mirror to put their makeup on. 117 00:04:47,004 --> 00:04:47,044 Speaker 2: You. 118 00:04:47,324 --> 00:04:49,404 Speaker 1: So you probably need when you say stool in a 119 00:04:49,444 --> 00:04:51,364 Speaker 1: bathroom out doing something a little different. 120 00:04:51,484 --> 00:04:53,684 Speaker 3: I mean you think about it's a long time ago 121 00:04:53,724 --> 00:04:55,563 Speaker 3: and at a different time you were talking about Robert 122 00:04:55,564 --> 00:04:59,324 Speaker 3: Irwin doing this tourism Astralia thing, and you know Hoagues. 123 00:04:59,364 --> 00:05:02,444 Speaker 3: When Hoages did that campaign, everyone was skeptical that it 124 00:05:02,484 --> 00:05:04,804 Speaker 3: was going to work. You know, Hoags was a big start. 125 00:05:05,084 --> 00:05:07,884 Speaker 3: But you got to think about about seven or eight 126 00:05:07,964 --> 00:05:11,204 Speaker 3: years before that campaign, he was involved in one of 127 00:05:11,244 --> 00:05:14,084 Speaker 3: the most successful television campaigns of all time to launch 128 00:05:14,124 --> 00:05:16,564 Speaker 3: one of the most successful products of all times, a 129 00:05:16,644 --> 00:05:19,764 Speaker 3: cigarette called Winfield. Yeah, that's right, and those they came. 130 00:05:19,804 --> 00:05:22,604 Speaker 3: That cigarette came out of nowhere and it was so 131 00:05:22,644 --> 00:05:25,164 Speaker 3: successful stro straight away because Hoages had sold it to 132 00:05:25,324 --> 00:05:29,444 Speaker 3: people that you know when you read Redfield, remember straordinary campaign. 133 00:05:30,004 --> 00:05:32,164 Speaker 3: And they sent because at that stage Camel were the 134 00:05:32,204 --> 00:05:35,604 Speaker 3: biggest cigarettes anywhere in the world. The Americans couldn't work 135 00:05:35,604 --> 00:05:39,404 Speaker 3: out why Camel had disappeared. You know, what's this cigarette brand? 136 00:05:39,484 --> 00:05:41,324 Speaker 3: So they sent someone out first class to work out 137 00:05:41,364 --> 00:05:43,123 Speaker 3: what it was like. Oh, it's this guy called PORL Hogan. 138 00:05:43,724 --> 00:05:45,404 Speaker 3: So if you could sell a Smokes, he could sell 139 00:05:45,524 --> 00:05:46,564 Speaker 3: sell Australia to the world. 140 00:05:46,644 --> 00:05:49,244 Speaker 2: I remember going a school discursion to two sm and 141 00:05:49,364 --> 00:05:53,164 Speaker 2: Paul Hogan was there doing ads for Winfield, and I 142 00:05:53,204 --> 00:05:55,364 Speaker 2: saw him and I said, get a mister Hogan. My 143 00:05:55,484 --> 00:05:58,204 Speaker 2: dad smokes Dune Hill and he ruffled my hair and 144 00:05:58,244 --> 00:05:59,444 Speaker 2: he said, good on your spider. 145 00:06:00,844 --> 00:06:02,644 Speaker 4: And that's your nickname, spider. 146 00:06:03,404 --> 00:06:05,124 Speaker 5: When back in those days you can get a spider. 147 00:06:05,164 --> 00:06:05,724 Speaker 5: What are you doing now? 148 00:06:05,884 --> 00:06:07,804 Speaker 4: Also, and you were on a rock station. Rock spider 149 00:06:07,804 --> 00:06:08,924 Speaker 4: doesn't sound so cool. 150 00:06:09,324 --> 00:06:10,364 Speaker 5: But that's it's interesting. 151 00:06:10,604 --> 00:06:12,044 Speaker 3: He came on a show I was doing it nine 152 00:06:12,084 --> 00:06:14,764 Speaker 3: ones and it was no I remember him just having 153 00:06:14,804 --> 00:06:18,004 Speaker 3: like this, like twenty eight inch waist, tiny tiny guy, 154 00:06:18,564 --> 00:06:21,364 Speaker 3: and he was in the green room and just lit 155 00:06:21,444 --> 00:06:26,524 Speaker 3: up a smoke, open up the window. It's like, all right, 156 00:06:28,804 --> 00:06:29,484 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say you. 157 00:06:30,164 --> 00:06:30,884 Speaker 4: Waste like that. 158 00:06:31,644 --> 00:06:35,684 Speaker 2: Man. This is this is the greatest book ever, just 159 00:06:35,764 --> 00:06:39,884 Speaker 2: out time for Father's Day and Christmas and the already 160 00:06:39,964 --> 00:06:43,284 Speaker 2: dolphin torch, that lantern when the dolphin and it get 161 00:06:43,284 --> 00:06:44,524 Speaker 2: flicked around in the face. 162 00:06:44,964 --> 00:06:47,244 Speaker 1: Every picture, every item is a kick in the heart, 163 00:06:47,284 --> 00:06:50,004 Speaker 1: isn't it. It is a visceral memory from your childhood. 164 00:06:50,204 --> 00:06:53,924 Speaker 3: Can I say something? I'm sure the answer is yes, 165 00:06:54,004 --> 00:06:56,284 Speaker 3: because I could be flogging my book. But I did 166 00:06:56,284 --> 00:06:59,204 Speaker 3: want I did want to say that as a as 167 00:06:59,244 --> 00:07:01,804 Speaker 3: a friend, as a colleague. Here we go and someone 168 00:07:01,804 --> 00:07:03,924 Speaker 3: who was once a competitor with you guys. I've been 169 00:07:03,964 --> 00:07:06,644 Speaker 3: thinking a lot today about your legacy is as a 170 00:07:06,644 --> 00:07:08,804 Speaker 3: breakfast show. Sure, while I was driving and listening to it, 171 00:07:09,004 --> 00:07:13,244 Speaker 3: Tim No, and I was I think it's really important 172 00:07:13,284 --> 00:07:16,404 Speaker 3: that I think you understand, you've understood what the privilege 173 00:07:16,444 --> 00:07:19,044 Speaker 3: of waking up with this city, and you've been incredibly 174 00:07:19,084 --> 00:07:21,284 Speaker 3: important to so many of us. And we're going to 175 00:07:21,364 --> 00:07:23,644 Speaker 3: love you on drive, but we're gonna we're gonna miss 176 00:07:23,644 --> 00:07:26,484 Speaker 3: you and breakfast and I just I think in terms 177 00:07:26,524 --> 00:07:31,404 Speaker 3: of it's it's well in terms of the history of 178 00:07:31,884 --> 00:07:34,524 Speaker 3: f M breakfast shows, I think you know you'll be 179 00:07:34,564 --> 00:07:38,884 Speaker 3: the most loved and that's the most important metric of Yeah, 180 00:07:38,924 --> 00:07:41,044 Speaker 3: And I think it's really I think it's really important 181 00:07:41,084 --> 00:07:43,244 Speaker 3: to say that because I think you guys are fantastic 182 00:07:43,284 --> 00:07:45,764 Speaker 3: And if there's a if there's one thing that sort 183 00:07:45,764 --> 00:07:50,044 Speaker 3: of sums up your relationship, and I think it's it 184 00:07:50,124 --> 00:07:52,404 Speaker 3: speaks a lot. And I don't think everyone will listen 185 00:07:52,444 --> 00:07:54,564 Speaker 3: to your show in the same way, but it's it's 186 00:07:54,564 --> 00:07:56,564 Speaker 3: the softness when you in the way that you say 187 00:07:56,564 --> 00:08:00,084 Speaker 3: each other's names. And I think there's something incredibly naful 188 00:08:01,844 --> 00:08:02,084 Speaker 3: you have. 189 00:08:02,404 --> 00:08:03,124 Speaker 4: You know, We. 190 00:08:04,844 --> 00:08:08,244 Speaker 1: Thank you, Tim, and we've loved doing breakfast and we 191 00:08:08,244 --> 00:08:10,244 Speaker 1: could have. You know, we're not the sort of people 192 00:08:10,244 --> 00:08:11,924 Speaker 1: that want to smash up an alarm clock. We're not 193 00:08:12,004 --> 00:08:14,804 Speaker 1: those people. But we are excited about doing a drive show. 194 00:08:15,324 --> 00:08:18,844 Speaker 1: But we've built I hope, a great relationship with our 195 00:08:18,884 --> 00:08:22,804 Speaker 1: listeners for twenty years and we want everyone to come 196 00:08:22,804 --> 00:08:24,924 Speaker 1: with us to drive, to listen in the morning, short 197 00:08:24,964 --> 00:08:27,724 Speaker 1: and breakfast please but please come with us to drive 198 00:08:27,764 --> 00:08:29,004 Speaker 1: and thank you for your lovely words. 199 00:08:29,084 --> 00:08:29,244 Speaker 2: Thing. 200 00:08:29,644 --> 00:08:32,364 Speaker 3: I think your treasures, your treasures. 201 00:08:33,044 --> 00:08:35,963 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll be in What a Ripper too, like Rip 202 00:08:36,004 --> 00:08:40,164 Speaker 2: Snorder seventy six, Amanda orright could have our bum cheek 203 00:08:40,404 --> 00:08:41,524 Speaker 2: with all the contents. 204 00:08:41,764 --> 00:08:44,963 Speaker 3: You should do that. I like that record. 205 00:08:44,724 --> 00:08:45,524 Speaker 4: Sitting a little low. 206 00:08:45,764 --> 00:08:47,284 Speaker 5: It means a lot for you to say that things 207 00:08:47,324 --> 00:08:47,684 Speaker 5: it does. 208 00:08:47,724 --> 00:08:48,324 Speaker 4: Thank you Tim. 209 00:08:48,924 --> 00:08:51,444 Speaker 2: Buy the book What a Ripper sixty Everyday Objects is 210 00:08:51,484 --> 00:08:52,764 Speaker 2: Shaped Australia by Tim Ross. 211 00:08:52,764 --> 00:08:53,284 Speaker 5: Thank you, sir. 212 00:08:53,444 --> 00:08:54,164 Speaker 3: Good on you guys.