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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Georgie Stevenson. I'm a lawyer and health coach,

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Speaker 1: social media influencer, wife and dogmum. On the Rise and

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Speaker 1: Conquer Podcast, we dive deep into all things mindset, habits, career, health,

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Speaker 1: relationships and more. This is a podcast for women who

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Speaker 1: want to rise up to be the best version of themselves,

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Speaker 1: who have big dreams in who are willing to put

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Speaker 1: in the work to get there. I want to bring

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Speaker 1: you the tools and actionable steps to feel confident in yourself,

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Speaker 1: inspired to take bold action, and motivated to conquer your goals.

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Speaker 1: Are you with me, your friends, Let's rise and conquer. Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to another episode of the Rise and Conquer Podcast. Today,

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Speaker 1: I have a very special guest for you as always,

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Speaker 1: and it is the founder of Eco Ten, Sonya Driver.

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Speaker 1: Sonya is a mother, sister, daughter, entrepreneur and now author

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Speaker 1: and to say she is one of the most inspiring

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Speaker 1: women is an absolute understatement. After Sonya's sister was diagnosed

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Speaker 1: with melanoma at age thirty, she started searching for ingredients

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Speaker 1: in Fake ten that they were using. She did not

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Speaker 1: like what she found this woman's tenacity and journey has

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Speaker 1: given us a safer alternative to tanning, bodycare, and now skincare.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, we get into the reality of a startup.

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Speaker 1: Sonya gives you all the nitty gritty details. Plus we

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Speaker 1: talk about roadblocks and self doubt which often happens in business,

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Speaker 1: and then we also chat about stuff like what to

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Speaker 1: do with competitors and imitators in the same space. So

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Speaker 1: if you ask someone who maybe you're about to do

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Speaker 1: a startup or start a business, or you have a

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Speaker 1: business idea, this episode will be so excellent for you.

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Speaker 1: Sonya's just view on life and business was so refreshing.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to share this with you. Also, I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited to bring you this episode because if you

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Speaker 1: guys didn't know, I actually have been an ambassador for

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Speaker 1: Eco ten for over a year now. I use all

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Speaker 1: their fake ten and then recently, well not really recently,

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Speaker 1: but at the start of the year, I started using

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Speaker 1: the Glory oil to heal my acne scars. And if

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Speaker 1: you guys have seen recent photos of me, you know

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Speaker 1: they are now completely healed and that was done fully, naturally,

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Speaker 1: just by using Glory oil. So I am so obsessed

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Speaker 1: with this brand. And also this is not sponsored in

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Speaker 1: any way, but I did want to remind you guys,

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Speaker 1: if you know you're listening to this episode and you

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Speaker 1: want any Eco Tan product, that I do have a

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Speaker 1: code which is Georgie Loves. That's Georgie Love with an

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Speaker 1: S at the end, and that gives you twenty five

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Speaker 1: percent off store wide. So that's not even an affiliate code.

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Speaker 1: I just want you guys to save money because these

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Speaker 1: are such amazing products. Okay, enough from me, Let's get

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Speaker 1: straight into the episode. Hi, Sania, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Georgie, excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: We're so excited to have you. And as this is

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Speaker 1: the Rise and Conquer podcast, what is one thing big

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Speaker 1: or small that you are rising up and conquering this week?

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Speaker 2: Oh? My god, stress stress. I suck at it, and

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Speaker 2: I think we all have, you know, different levels of

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Speaker 2: I'm really rising up and try not to let it

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Speaker 2: just wipes me out otherwise. So that's what I'm doing

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're the same. But when I'm stressed,

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Speaker 1: I can turn quite you know, like I get a

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I definitely feel you on this one.

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Speaker 2: When I'm stressed, everything goes out the window, you eat bad.

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Speaker 2: Are you just in survival mode? Basically a one hundred percent?

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, okay, So let's get into your story because

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Speaker 1: when I was doing my research for this podcast, I

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Speaker 1: was so fascinated and inspired. So I know, Eco ten

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Speaker 1: started by you turning your sister's skin cancer diagnosis into

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so appropriate for your show Rise and

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Speaker 2: Conquer because I was at a point in my life

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Speaker 2: I've got great discernment, and that's the one thing I

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Speaker 2: this week when I had to let somebody go, I

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Speaker 2: There were thirteen ingredients and it was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that. It's just so crazy

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Speaker 1: It really came from a pain point which was happening

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Speaker 2: Honestly, for me, the only thing that got me through

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know it. Yeah, just something happened. Something happened,

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Speaker 2: You know what we struggle with which and I still

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Speaker 2: It's really and confidence, you know, Georgie, There's no such

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Speaker 1: could imagine especially the place that you were from and

427
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Speaker 1: then how you are now, like that was not a

428
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Speaker 1: linear night like journey, if that makes sense, and you

429
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Speaker 1: would have had limiting beliefs and self doubt and how

430
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Speaker 1: did you kind of overcome those limiting beliefs because you're

431
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Speaker 1: obviously so like inspiring and successful, but I feel like

432
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: it just doesn't come out of nowhere.

433
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Speaker 2: Well, for me, it's definitely my faith, definitely without a doubt.

434
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: I got a church, but I am I'm a prayer warrior,

435
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: I call myself, and I've got a lot of people

436
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: around me that are. My girlfriends are a prayer warriors.

437
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 2: So we're sort of going to battle in the spiritual

438
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: role a bit. And that's what gets me through that.

439
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I joined a running group anything

440
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: to get rid of my stress, because when the stress,

441
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: the stress really clouds your mind, and it really plays heavily,

442
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: so I just have to My battle is constantly try

443
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: to overcome my stress level so I can think clearly.

444
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Speaker 1: A big thing for me with self doubt is like,

445
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: especially before studying something new and all that sort of thing,

446
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: I just always think I'm never going to know if

447
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,719
Speaker 1: I don't try, like I've just got to jump almost.

448
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: There's so many reasons not to do things, but in

449
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: the end, you're never going to know if you don't try.

450
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And also, you know what, you have to sort

451
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: of not give a shit about what people think, because

452
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: if me worrying about how people are going to take

453
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 2: it or did it, you know, if you'll know you're

454
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: honestly doing your best and in every decision you make

455
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: is one of righteousness and good stuff. You can't I

456
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: don't try to think about well people like this, Like

457
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: otherwise I wouldn't have written my book either. My book

458
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: was you know, very personal. It's like sharing a diary.

459
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: I have to be okay with me if that makes sense,

460
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: and if someone hates me, oh well, that's nothing I

461
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 2: can do about it. You can't carry the weight and

462
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: the needing of approval of other humans. You cannot carry

463
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: that because they may approve you, may you know, for

464
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 2: one minute, then they're going to bloody kick you in

465
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Speaker 2: the face the next Oh god, i'd say, I'd say,

466
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Speaker 2: Jada Georgie.

467
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Speaker 1: No. And also I kind of think if you don't

468
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Speaker 1: have that in a belief in yourself and like really trust,

469
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 1: like I just need to listen to my intuition and

470
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: do what's best for me and just not worry whatever

471
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Speaker 1: else is doing.

472
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's true.

473
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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk scaling because, like you said, you

474
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: were literally, you know, in your kitchen putting these solutions together,

475
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: and now you just have this epic massive company. And

476
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you have your overseas too.

477
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: Way, yes, yes, they're very big overseas, warehouses, overseas, overseas.

478
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: So let's talk about scaling because this is something that

479
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: no one really talks about. Was it quick? Was it slow?

480
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: Was it hard?

481
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: Oh my god? You know, the bigger you get. I

482
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: did say to somebody today, shits success is overrated. But okay, scale,

483
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: this is my honest belief. Scale organically. Don't get loans.

484
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: I never got a business loan, by the way, I

485
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: just did it a little bit by little bit, if

486
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and you've got to do

487
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: the grind. So I had to sell the make the shit,

488
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: sell the shit. I could not. I've got I'm sure

489
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: I've got ADHD but so I what I sucked at

490
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 2: is I couldn't do the adminside of it or picking

491
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: in the backing because I'm too fast everything. But so

492
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: just little bit by little and getting the right people

493
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: don't just go okay, bang, you know what I mean.

494
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: Like I've moved four times. I just kept getting a

495
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: little bit bigger, a little bit bigger. So it's all manageable.

496
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: And as you're getting taking steps, you're learning so much

497
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: as well. So you don't want to go from small

498
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: to like bring it from home to ten staff big warehouse. No,

499
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: I went little warehouse, a little bit, bigger warehouse, another

500
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Speaker 2: little where and now on my fourth I've bought my

501
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: own and I own it. No bank owns it, and

502
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: I have by staff. But you know it's taken me

503
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: ten years, but I've done the grind. You know, I've

504
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: done the little sip middle. So if shit happens, I

505
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: like to keep myself in a position where I haven't

506
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 2: spent too much and I don't owe too much, you know,

507
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: too much money. Too many people drive a maserati, you know.

508
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been very smart about.

509
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: It, you know, or could turn shit tomorrow, but Georgy,

510
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: let's just celebrate today exactly.

511
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: No, I really I really like that, and I really

512
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: like her transparency. And that's kind of like we're in

513
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: a similar situation with our natural supplement company where whatever

514
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: we sell go straight back into buying like new stock,

515
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: where not necessarily like profiting or anything like, it's all

516
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: just like very slowly because we didn't get any outside

517
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: backing or any loans or anything like that. So I

518
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: like that you said that. It makes me feel better.

519
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: And this is an example when you can apply these

520
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: to all of your business, like in every step of

521
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: the way. Okay, And I've seen this mistake in all

522
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: little startups because I used to do a lot of mentoring.

523
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: That's why I wrote the book. Okay, so even now,

524
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: So my first photo shoot, I got my girlfriend who

525
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: was a real estate agent. I put my dress I

526
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: already owned on her, borrowed a camera, made my new

527
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 2: boyfriend take the photo of her, and did my my

528
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: own like marketing and brochures myself. So it costs me

529
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: zero amount of money for my f and it was

530
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: so bad, like blurry feet and all that stuff. But

531
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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Like so where that I'll be mentoring

532
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: startup businesses and they to be doing a seven thousand

533
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: dollars photo shoot, you know, hiring. I'm thinking, so you

534
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: really need to make twenty one thousand to get that

535
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: seven thousand back. I just don't even now. I cannot stand.

536
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 2: I don't hire models from agencies. I just have normal

537
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: people friends that you know, I don't have. I just

538
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, keep it real and don't waste me

539
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: people waste money thinking that they have to put on

540
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: a show or something. I don't get.

541
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Speaker 1: It exactly, Like you're not being flashy like you like

542
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: you're not kind of you know the whole like fake it,

543
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: do you make it? You're not doing any of that

544
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: with what you have, and it really shows. So obviously

545
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 1: that works.

546
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: But love that.

547
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: And so lastly, let's talk about competitors and imitators, because

548
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: it's actually funny. I literally saw and I obviously won't

549
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: name the product, but a product that I know definitely

550
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: came after one of your products with literally the same name,

551
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: and I just couldn't imagine, after all the work that

552
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: you put into your business and what everyone does, and

553
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, how you have grown so organically. I couldn't

554
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: imagine how that feels to just have, you know, downright imitators.

555
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: And this brand wasn't necessarily small either, So talk to

556
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: us about how you deal with that sort of stuff.

557
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: You know, I've got heaps of imitators. Once again, I

558
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: think it's my faith, and I believe that you reap

559
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: what you sew. So I think, okay, I don't know.

560
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: I just I don't carry it. I don't allow myself

561
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: to carry it. In the beginning, I used to get

562
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: the shits, ah, you fucking small minded copycatler, But now

563
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: I don't. I just think, oh god, you know comes around,

564
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: goes around, and I think, wow, I must be doing okay,

565
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: Like seriously, there's so many companies are copying, like really

566
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: big companies, and I'm thinking, shit, I can I must

567
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 2: be doing something right. But I crave to be an innovator.

568
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: I fucking crave it. Consumers and customers are smarter than that.

569
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: They read ingredients. It's not like the old days where

570
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: we just would buy pay a fortune for you know,

571
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: synthetic crap from big brands. We don't. Now We've be like, oh,

572
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: come on, look at those ingredients, you know, and we don't.

573
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: Sort of we're not sucking it. But I know, I

574
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: just I sort of don't let it worry. I mean,

575
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: I know God's got my back.

576
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: I always say when people ask me if I get

577
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: down on like, you know, trolling comments or people being negative,

578
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: and I always say, like, I always turn my attention

579
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: to all the positive things, which always outweigh the negative,

580
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 1: and I like, I almost just don't give it my time.

581
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: Nah, don't do it. And I'm like, you know why

582
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: the me a product that I brought out, mind you,

583
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: five years ago, the dumb fuckers, I've already bringing out

584
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: a whole fucking year range, and so by the time

585
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: I launched that next year, you know, you're just you're

586
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: moving ahead, You're not looking back. Doesn't matter, you know,

587
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: don't I know You're I'm like you. But I do

588
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: see a lot of people focus but are huge people,

589
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: and they focus on the trolls. Then it might be

590
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: like two percent of my audience. I think, why, why

591
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: are you being drawn to that darkness that was placed

592
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: there to hurt you, you know, I just don't. I've

593
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: had a couple of trolls tell me that I've got

594
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: gum disease and oh horrible, seriously.

595
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: And then I I always just laugh, Like some of

596
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: the comments I get, I literally laugh. I'm just like, like,

597
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: how horrible must that person's life be to like say

598
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: something like that, if it makes sense, like that's what

599
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: I say. If anything, I feel sorry for them. I'm like,

600
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: oh God, their life must be really sucky, must be tormented.

601
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: And I was thinking to myself, what the fuck happened

602
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: to you? That's what I think. Something happened to you

603
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: to make you so horrible something, you know, So anyway,

604
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't I just because they win, So no, I

605
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: sort of don't. But you know what, I do have

606
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: a hard time if because I put my kids and

607
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: you know, social media, because it's a family business and

608
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: I could really turn into a dangerous person if they

609
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: troll my kids.

610
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't have kids. I have dogs. But

611
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: I could feel you on that one.

612
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: I was very fucking offended by the way somebody did

613
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: said my dog was like, my dog is so beautiful,

614
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 2: little tour and I can't. I haven't forgiven that person.

615
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: I'd better pray about that. But that pissed me off.

616
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: They said something about the dog.

617
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: They said my dog was ugly.

618
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would take that very personally, very yeah.

619
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: But it's it's so true. You hit the nail on

620
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: the head. You just can't let it get to you

621
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: and give them the time of day they win.

622
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: No, No, you can't.

623
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's move on and let's talk about Eco

624
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: Tan and Eco by Sonya's range, because you guys know

625
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: how much I absolutely just adore their products and I

626
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: talk about them all the time on my social media.

627
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: I've talked about it on the podcast just like all

628
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: the time. So let's get into it and talk about

629
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: your favorite products Sonya, because personally, mine is the Glory oil.

630
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: It has just transformed my acne scars. I know, you

631
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: know about like my sworder before and after and I

632
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: got the scars and it was for the third time,

633
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: and I have really a hormonal acne, so it would

634
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: flare up for six months and then it would leave

635
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: for like a year and a half. And then previous

636
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: to that, like this is probably two years ago before

637
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: my wedding and stuff, I got like skin needling done

638
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: and lasers done. And I worked in the city at

639
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: this time to in corporate, so it was a bit

640
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: more easier. And then I got acne and I was

641
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: left with these scars again and I just thought to myself,

642
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, like going to these appointment it's so

643
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: like so time consuming and they're so expensive. I was

644
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: just I was kind of over it. And then so

645
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: when I got recommended to try Glory Oil, to be honest,

646
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: I just thought, oh, like, you know, it's a serium.

647
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: It might help, but it's not going to be like miraculous.

648
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: And guys, it is literally like transformative. It's crazy. I've

649
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: got before and after. It's on my Instagram, on my

650
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: personal instagram, which you can check out. But yes, so

651
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: that's why I Sorry, I just went on a rant.

652
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: Then that is my death favorite product.

653
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: Sorry, that makes me tear up. No, seriously that anytime

654
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: I get a message is like that. I just I

655
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: love it. That's exactly what it's all about. You know,

656
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: worth more than.

657
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: God, you know. It's just it's so surprising because I've

658
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: never had such an effect without you know, invasive treatments

659
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. So and it's like

660
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: I kind of just used it and didn't really give

661
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: it too much thought, and then I looked at my

662
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: before and after photos and it is it. It's so incredible,

663
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: and it's it's incredible because you know your skin on

664
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: your face, it's such a personal thing. And when you've

665
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: just had you know, acne for six months and then

666
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: you finally clear it and then you're left with these scars,

667
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: it's so disheartening. So for you to make a product

668
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: that is something you can do at home, that is affordable,

669
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: that is all natural, is just epic. So glory oil

670
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: is clearly my favorite. But let's talk about your favorite product.

671
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: You know, it's like asking me to pick which is

672
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: my favorite child? Really a couple? Okay, sure, shit, I

673
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 2: feel like I'm being unfaithful obviously, Glory oil, like I

674
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: can't live with that, and my daughter who's got going

675
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: through acne at the moment, she can't live without that.

676
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: It just takes all the redness away because it's highly

677
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: anti inflammatory and greened, so it just completely same with you,

678
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: scarring marks gone. So yeah, I love glory oil. But

679
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: there is a product that I think that it's a

680
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: little hidden secret, and I don't when people use it.

681
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: They'll either love it or hate it. But it is

682
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: the fucking bomb and that is super Asai scrub face scrub.

683
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: Have you used that, Georgie, Yes, I have.

684
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: I do love it. I do love it. I just

685
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: I use it maybe once a week if that, because

686
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: I well, when I actually started using it, I did

687
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: have the bad acne, so I need to be more

688
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: persistent with it. But it is really good and it

689
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: smells amazing.

690
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: It does, but it does stings. This is the thing.

691
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: It stings because it's got it's higher magnesium salts, but

692
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: it is so and keep bacteria for anyone that's got

693
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: clog paws. It just like basically resurfaces your skin, but

694
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: it's got organic balms in there, so it's not drying

695
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: like a normal scrub. So if you actually want to

696
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: make magnificent skin like facial, but you do the scrub

697
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 2: and then you do glorial over the top of that, Honestly,

698
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: your skin is as smooth as a war It's incredible.

699
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: So I love this. That's my one at the moment,

700
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: my you know size scrubs in my shower. I use

701
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: it on my lips. You know, your lips get all dry.

702
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: It's it's incredible. Love that glorial face hand water. If

703
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't put face hand water on for a week,

704
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 2: I look at them and I look about ten years older,

705
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: and I look sick. I love face hand water. Yeah,

706
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: so there's sort of I use everything and I love

707
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: it all. But really the size scrub glory over face

708
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 2: hand water the bomb.

709
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: And I am a big fan of the face tan

710
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: or face tand water because I get really bad coal sauce,

711
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: so I actually can't have and like I am very

712
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: naturally olive, so in the summertime, I ten. In the winter,

713
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: I'm very white. But in the summertime, even if I'm ten,

714
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: I can't actually put my face in the sun because

715
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: I literally get like my top lip will just have

716
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: coal saws from the sun. So yeah, face tan water

717
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: is just the best.

718
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is an amazing product. It does Like my

719
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: mum uses it and she's seventy. It just camouflages broken capillaries,

720
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: gives you just a soft glow. You know. It's got

721
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: incredible ingredients again anti acne ingredients and anti agings, so

722
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: it's good for all ages. But I love that that's

723
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: a cult product. That's that's amazing. I remember exactly where

724
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: I was, what I thought about that product, and now

725
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: every bust in the sun stopping me. But it doesn't

726
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: matter that I have.

727
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: The ingredients exactly. And so what's your most popular product.

728
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: There's a few of them. They sort of you know what.

729
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: It changes also in seasons as well, and different parts

730
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 2: of the world. So it's really funny. Different parts of

731
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: the world like different products. It's really quite interesting. Like

732
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 2: us say, they really love moose. They love the moose.

733
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: You know where we tend to light the water. So

734
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: the Glory oil face tanned water, and the super Citrus

735
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: cleanser are probably our most popular products. The cleanser is amazing.

736
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: Have you used that Alvira base that's really.

737
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: Great right every single day and vouch that it's a

738
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: meat and it's such like it smells amazing and it's

739
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: like it's not too harsh. It actually like takes off

740
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: your makeup. It's just an all rounder for sure. You're

741
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: all arounder and Alavira based. To see most products, the

742
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: first ingredients is water. Ours is all ol of certified

743
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: le gating severa. I mean, so they're actually acting, they

744
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: actually do things. They treat your skin.

745
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: They're not just I don't know, just laid up for

746
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: marketing Glory oil. We've got so many before and afters

747
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: which I have to put up on your fingernails. Anyone

748
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: that has a hard time growing like their cuticles or

749
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 2: their fingernails, that's incredible for your nails as well.

750
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: Really, that's so interesting. I would have thought about that.

751
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: I actually was thinking the other day. I was actually

752
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: gonna talk about on my story, but I completely forgot.

753
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: But because like I said previously, I get the coal

754
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: saws on my lips, and my mom pointed out that

755
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: previous to using the Glory Oil, my lips were very

756
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: scarred because I'd constantly have these, like you know of

757
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: coal saws, and then since using the Glory oil, Mom's like,

758
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: because Mum notices because she gets them really bad and

759
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: she has really going on her lips too, so I've

760
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: got her unto the Glory oil, but she's noticed how

761
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: much my lips have healed, even which is like, you

762
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't even think that I do wipe it over my lips,

763
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: So it makes sense.

764
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I've put mom this morning. That's mye We

765
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: actually even have people that say they have cold sows centers.

766
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: In photos they say they put glory of all on

767
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: their col soals and it goes like, literally, that's what

768
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: they see a lot of people let's say that. But

769
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 2: I just don't like to advertise that because the thing

770
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: and people tack and I just I'm just bad for them,

771
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: you know.

772
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I'll make sure I try that next time

773
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: and I'll leave.

774
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't you feel it coming on glory or straight on?

775
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll try it. Yeah, Cole sols are

776
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: the worst, So I yeah.

777
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: That.

778
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: A bit too finish off. Something I love asking my guests,

779
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: and this is because I'm someone who loves reading. I

780
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: love watching new things and listening to things. And I

781
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: was wondering if you have a recommendation for the audience

782
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: that you know, maybe you've watched a documentary or you've

783
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: listened to a podcast, so you're currently reading a book

784
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: that you're finding really in formative and impactful.

785
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: So what I'm reading at the moment is the whole

786
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 2: series of Hotel k. It's all about Ballei and it's

787
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: snowing in Bali, and you know, just all about the underworld,

788
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: and you know Chappelle Colby and you know the President

789
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: Bali and all the stuff. That's just fascinating. There's a

790
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 2: whole series. So I'm reading all that at the moment.

791
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: I love anything non fiction. It's just you know, that's

792
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: what floats my boat. So I'm reading that the moment

793
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: watching I Real for health thing. I really love what

794
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: the health? Have you seen that?

795
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: Yes they have? Yeah?

796
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 2: I love that. And also and I love Fat Sick

797
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: and Nelly did I love? I love anything juicing. I'm

798
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 2: a bit of big juicer.

799
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that. Is that just on Netflix?

800
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was about the Australian guy who's the corporate world.

801
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: He was like super super sick and really OBEs and

802
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: then he just did sixty days of juicing around America.

803
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: Joe Cross's name is and just unbelievable. There's two of

804
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: them on Netflix. Just these really like very sick, dying

805
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 2: people and how they just juice their way back to health.

806
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: It was just interesting. I just love anything like that.

807
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: When else I know, I'm going to hang up from

808
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: you and go, oh shit, should have taught them about that?

809
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: That's okay.

810
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just love anything like Austrange story at there

811
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: was a I won't even get into it, but there's

812
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: one of my You know, I've got lots of community

813
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: projects I love doing. I love helping people. I love

814
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: going to a mania and helping villagers, and lots of

815
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: stuff I've got going on behind the scenes. But if

816
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: anybody wants to watch a strange story. Recently it's been

817
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: two parts on a lady called Yoshi Taylor from Brisbane.

818
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: She was in Campaedia jail for six years from a

819
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: scam and she was a school teacher, a single mom

820
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: with two little kids. Absolutely horrific, but her case is

821
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: so fascinating. Working with her at the moment, trying to

822
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: help her out. But that's a fascinating one. A strange story.

823
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: So she was in prison because of a scam. It

824
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: wasn't really her.

825
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely wasn't her. It was a part of

826
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: whole syndicat. They got to other Australians as well. This

827
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: was a business scam, so they thought. So she was

828
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 2: a school teacher and she was importing arts and crafts

829
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: and beautiful materials from Cambodia, had a contract they paid

830
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: her or It was such a high highly organized professional scam.

831
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. This beautiful woman, she had to sleep

832
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: on a cement floor for six years. Now what it

833
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: did to her. She only just recently got released a

834
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: few months ago into Brisbane, and nobody that watches this

835
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: will be able to stop crying for hours that it

836
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: could have happened to any one of us, because she

837
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 2: it was just shocking. It was just someone following her

838
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: Rimond got scammed and just got gotten about. But I

839
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: can say now without telling too much to say, anyone

840
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: that's ever bought any of our products is actually going

841
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: to be helping to restore that woman's life and her children.

842
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: So that's I really would love you to watch that vigure. Definitely,

843
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: anyone I've told to watch it then bringing me texting

844
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: me going how the hell did this happen? You know

845
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: it was just watch you time.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming on the show.

847
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: You are just a breath of fresh air, and you're

848
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: so authentic and you're so transparent, and I really appreciate

849
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: you taking the time. Sonya.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much, Georgie. I feel honored that

851
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: you talk to a fat old lady for but thank you, Darling.

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Speaker 1: No, this is a Rise and Conquered podcast, and you

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Speaker 1: were just conly Rising and conquering, so perfect God bless

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening into this week's episode. If

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Speaker 1: So I'm very excited to announce that we have made

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Speaker 1: any sort of sharing involved I really really appreciate. Also,

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Speaker 1: if you want to go beyond this episode, check out

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Speaker 1: my personal Instagram at Georgie Stems. I hope you have

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