Speaker 1: On Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: Flex and Firms.
Speaker 3: This is the Flex and Frooms catch Up podcast. Welcome
Speaker 3: back to the Flex and Frooms Podcast. It's a pleasure
Speaker 3: to have you here. Honestly, am I in a good mood.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty hungry, to be fair.
Speaker 1: But always hungry. Somebody said to me the other day,
Speaker 1: No they didn't. I like I watched the TikTok. No,
Speaker 1: we won't get into that now. Of this guy who
Speaker 1: was saying that the modern equivalent of the weather chat
Speaker 1: is to talk about whether or not you've seen popular
Speaker 1: TV show, And I thought, damn it really is that redundant,
Speaker 1: because even if someone's seen it, I find that people
Speaker 1: aren't good at expressing what they like about things that
Speaker 1: they consume. And so member I said the other day,
Speaker 1: I'm not giving out recommendations because I care to. Okay,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in two separate categories. I can
Speaker 1: watch things I don't like and enjoy them. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: if I enjoy something a lot, I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk to a stranger about it. Who's gonna shit on
Speaker 1: my feelings? Yeah, Everyone's like when people watch Twilight in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three and say, oh my yeah. But it's
Speaker 1: I'm like babes, it was important, little sixteen.
Speaker 3: Can you let it live? Let it rest? I respectful,
Speaker 3: you respectful to be honest. I let's go. This is
Speaker 3: Flex and Frooms a few weeks ago. Now I've been
Speaker 3: getting into tapping into my spiritual practice. I say this
Speaker 3: with a grain of salt. As you know, I probably
Speaker 3: grew up in not the most religious household, In fact,
Speaker 3: probably the opposite, very how do you say, not secular
Speaker 3: or like I watched Simpsons. That was my daily routine.
Speaker 3: That was a semblance of as you know, like a
Speaker 3: lot of my beliefs come from something like the Simpsons,
Speaker 3: for example. So anyway, I spoke the other day about intuition,
Speaker 3: like what is intuition? And it turns out I produced
Speaker 3: Brookie has found a listener's take. It's a voice note.
Speaker 3: Her name is Milli wind Shuttle, so wind Shuttle. It
Speaker 3: just it looked like something else on the paper. Hit
Speaker 3: the tape, Brookie, Hey, Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to respond to the tea talk about
Speaker 2: intuition because I think what I gleaned from that was
Speaker 2: that they were saying it makes you uncomfortable, not necessarily
Speaker 2: that it's bad or at least that's just the bit
Speaker 2: that I took away from it. And so what I
Speaker 2: kind of like thought about was, you know when it
Speaker 2: can be good, Like it could be good. You know,
Speaker 2: when you feel like you want to like make a
Speaker 2: new friend, or you see someone and you want to
Speaker 2: be friends with them, but you're like nervous, or you know,
Speaker 2: if you're going through a breakup and if you're with
Speaker 2: a partner and you just know that you need to
Speaker 2: leave and it's the right thing, you just know it
Speaker 2: and it's intuitive, but you're also like terrified to actually
Speaker 2: make that leap. Like it's like a knowing maybe that
Speaker 2: you should do something or you could do something, but
Speaker 2: there's a lot of fear around that. Yes, so it's
Speaker 2: kind of like fantasy mixed with just uncomfortability or like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, really small things that could affect your
Speaker 2: day to day. I think sometimes I get kind of
Speaker 2: messages or intuition that I should like say hello to
Speaker 2: this stranger on the street, and it's just like because
Speaker 2: of them, it feels like it could be important for
Speaker 2: both of us, or yeah, reaching out to someone. I
Speaker 2: don't know, this all sounds very interpersonal, but I'm interested
Speaker 2: if that could be a jumping off point to continue
Speaker 2: that conversation. I don't know. I'm really into a le
Speaker 2: woo woo. So yeah, anyway, love the show, Gonna keep
Speaker 2: listening now goodbye.
Speaker 3: She really said, I'm not done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, I remember this chat. It's coming back
Speaker 1: to me in a vision. And so from what I recall,
Speaker 1: you shared this TikTok with us, and I was thinking
Speaker 1: it was odd because it was so far on the
Speaker 1: deep end of woo woo that feels quite antithetical for
Speaker 1: how you see the world. And even I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't think I like this, and I feel like
Speaker 1: it was because it was positioning intuition as something that
Speaker 1: only comes up in fearful situations, as opposed to intuition
Speaker 1: being neutral, a tool that you can use to discern
Speaker 1: what's happening around you, that you're not relying just on
Speaker 1: facts or logic to decide that it's worth listening to.
Speaker 1: So my intuition, like Milly said, might encourage me to
Speaker 1: talk to my uber driver today when I usual wouldn't
Speaker 1: feel like having conversation and it was actually great and
Speaker 1: we are from the same country and whatever it might
Speaker 1: be that feels like intuition or my intuition tells me
Speaker 1: today's gonna be a Gooday. I've got no reason why so,
Speaker 1: but that video made it seem like your intuition is
Speaker 1: that is that scary feeling that goes bump in the
Speaker 1: night and you should you pay attention to it. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that and more. Yeah, I like that, Millie, Thank you
Speaker 1: for sending a voice note. I love hearing a voice note.
Speaker 3: It thoughtful, meaty, long voice note in a gorgeous dulcet tone.
Speaker 3: Doesn't get better than that. Thank you, Milly.
Speaker 1: What okatas flex and froms Flex And we.
Speaker 3: Are here with Shivers Regel, sitting in a very regal setting,
Speaker 3: looking wristplendent. I'm currently wearing sparkly gloves, looking gorgeous in
Speaker 3: the light. Pretty princess, yes, and you're in a pretty
Speaker 3: princess like what's that chicken, Mario cart princess peach, Peach, peach,
Speaker 3: You got a peach kind of either about you. And
Speaker 3: this week we're talking about success, what it looks like
Speaker 3: for us and what it looks like in the technology landscape,
Speaker 3: because we are future forward babes, and I want to
Speaker 3: talk about technology and community. You and I have both
Speaker 3: built communities. I would say I want to use that word,
Speaker 3: and technology has obviously made that possible. Thank you Mark
Speaker 3: Zuckerbed for puffing with Instagram.
Speaker 1: You work for met Advocate one on one and Mark
Speaker 1: has made that possible. Thank you. Is he in the
Speaker 1: room with us now?
Speaker 3: Never Spiegel? I did get my come up on Snapchat,
Speaker 3: So thank you very much. As you know, I like
Speaker 3: to connect with my community quite often. We did a
Speaker 3: job the other day where we invited listeners to our
Speaker 3: show and I actually befriended a woman and we went
Speaker 3: surfing that weekend and we've been meaning to go right
Speaker 3: now in a group chat together. And that's why I
Speaker 3: think if you build a community around things that you
Speaker 3: really like and you are your person or your best self,
Speaker 3: you may attract people that follow you that you can
Speaker 3: start a relationship with. Does it work for dating? Per se?
Speaker 3: In my hoard we get back.
Speaker 1: To dating, Get your head up the gutary of police
Speaker 1: when it comes to friendships, and there's no like ulterior motives,
Speaker 1: and it can work quite well because you can find
Speaker 1: people with like minded interests. So interesting, because when I
Speaker 1: think about the community I've built, I didn't recognize it
Speaker 1: as a community.
Speaker 3: For half the time, I.
Speaker 1: Thought it was a bunch of people who had overstepped
Speaker 1: and overfamiliarized what we were doing. Because back in the
Speaker 1: days the internet didn't feel like a community. It was
Speaker 1: very I speak, you listen, and very rarely we break
Speaker 1: that barrier to engage as equals and realistically, even if
Speaker 1: you were to pose a question or ask for conversation,
Speaker 1: people would be like, no, I'm not an influencer. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to speak with you. And so when that
Speaker 1: transition started happening, I thought it was strange because it
Speaker 1: wasn't as though people went from you are the person,
Speaker 1: I'm the you are the creator, I'm the consumer. You speak,
Speaker 1: I listen. It went from that and overnight to we
Speaker 1: must be friends. I'm going to be over familiar. I'm
Speaker 1: going to ask too many questions, ask really personal questions,
Speaker 1: and justify that by how long I've been subscribed to
Speaker 1: you or how long I follow you for. And so
Speaker 1: it's taken me a little while to figure out how
Speaker 1: that how community actually works for me because I think
Speaker 1: in my instance, I like it existing just virtually and
Speaker 1: online because I can create these boundaries and I don't
Speaker 1: have to confuse them. This exists in this space, and
Speaker 1: if for some reason we engage offline, we use the
Speaker 1: same online expectations to dictate this relationship. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be the one who goes surfing with someone I
Speaker 1: met on the internet who's following me because of this
Speaker 1: illusion they've mee me. But I will become friends with
Speaker 1: someone that I've met, but it would build like a
Speaker 1: like a regular friendship.
Speaker 3: Like a normal person. No, I didn't say that I regular.
Speaker 3: I just needed to go surfing, and I thought.
Speaker 1: Oh, no, you don't need to justify I think it's cool,
Speaker 1: But I, for one, I think that sometimes it takes
Speaker 1: a big reminder from myself to myself to be like,
Speaker 1: you don't know these people, but they know a lot
Speaker 1: about you.
Speaker 3: It's a bit too scary. I think you can't think
Speaker 3: about it for too long, otherwise you wig yourself out.
Speaker 1: That's what you want to.
Speaker 3: Be put on blood.
Speaker 1: I think we should stop talking about it.
Speaker 3: Because I feel uncomfortable. But no, I think, like I
Speaker 3: did see now that I Emma Chamberlain on her website.
Speaker 3: I saw a TikTok about how she was charging ten
Speaker 3: thousand dollars for a DM slide, which I think it.
Speaker 2: Was a joke.
Speaker 3: Do you think that really it was a joke because
Speaker 3: she seems very in touch. I know we're going to think, well,
Speaker 3: she's not, but I actually think she would understand how
Speaker 3: the internet works very well. She's an expert, and I
Speaker 3: think she knows as we say about like outrage marketing.
Speaker 3: Now I want to go on her website and look
Speaker 3: at it, and now I'm gonna look at the merch
Speaker 3: and think, oh, she kind of pops up with their
Speaker 3: merch there. Maybe I'll buy some she got you? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you just got chamberlaind.
Speaker 1: You just got Chamberlain. Either way, I think parasocial relationships
Speaker 1: are not to be feared. They serve a purpose, and
Speaker 1: I think it's a slippery slope to take something that
Speaker 1: exists in this ecosystem with a very distinct reasoning and
Speaker 1: bring it into the real world without recognizing the implications.
Speaker 3: Know the implications.
Speaker 1: Stay a fan. You think when I tour for Dose,
Speaker 1: you can't try to be a friend. No.
Speaker 3: Did you talk to her?
Speaker 1: Of course, But I said, let me remain in the
Speaker 1: fantasy so I can still engage with your stuff online continuously,
Speaker 1: not ruin the illusion to be like well, when I
Speaker 1: met head like a, keep it out of your exactly
Speaker 1: and your mouth flex and rooms On Kater by popular demand,
Speaker 1: we have another am I the asshole. This one's about
Speaker 1: friends who force you into committing to do things months
Speaker 1: in advance. I have my feelings about this, but it's
Speaker 1: not about me right now, let's get into it. This
Speaker 1: person says, my friend tries to corner me and make
Speaker 1: me commit to things months in advance, such as dog sitting.
Speaker 1: My friend is Type A and is obsessed with planning
Speaker 1: out her future months in advance. Additionally, she has children,
Speaker 1: which she consistently tells me is the reason why she
Speaker 1: can't just leave plans the last minute, which is fair enough.
Speaker 1: She recently reached out saying that she'd like me to
Speaker 1: dog sit for two weeks in September, and I told
Speaker 1: her I don't know what I have going on at
Speaker 1: that time and don't want to commit to that as yet,
Speaker 1: but in the meantime she should seek alternatives for dog sitting.
Speaker 1: She said, m it seems like you don't have much
Speaker 1: going on, so it sounds like you actually have the
Speaker 1: capacity to take this on. I haven't saddled myself with
Speaker 1: pets or children, and I feel like the freedom to
Speaker 1: be spontaneous is my right saddle to myself, and I'd
Speaker 1: like to take advantage of that before I one day
Speaker 1: have these responsibilities, which is fair. The last time she
Speaker 1: asked me to do this months in advance, I missed
Speaker 1: out on a content as well as a cottage trip,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to miss out again. When you
Speaker 1: told me I was unreasonable, and she's willing to change
Speaker 1: her vacation days to suit when I can dog sit.
Speaker 1: She clearly doesn't understand the concept of I don't know
Speaker 1: what I have going on, but that doesn't mean something
Speaker 1: won't pop up. If you have pets, then isn't it
Speaker 1: reasonable that you factor in things like making arrangements at
Speaker 1: a dog kennel as part of having them. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Am I the asshole here? Look of all the am
Speaker 1: I the assholes that we've done? I feel like this
Speaker 1: is the juiciest because it's in the realm of actual possibility.
Speaker 1: When somebody said not, when somebody when Rooms said that
Speaker 1: she feels like some people do creative writing and make
Speaker 1: them up for Internet club. Actually it made me see
Speaker 1: all of them differently. But this one is definitely real.
Speaker 1: You couldn't make this up. It's like the most rock
Speaker 1: in a hard place scenario that because I get it,
Speaker 1: she trapped you, but you're trapped. You're essentially trapped. The
Speaker 1: first that comes to mind is how close a friends
Speaker 1: are you? Because there are some friends that I consider
Speaker 1: in a circle in a sanctum where if you ask,
Speaker 1: I do wow anything because my inner sanctum friends won't
Speaker 1: ask me for things if it's not if they don't
Speaker 1: really need them. They know better than that, right, So
Speaker 1: it's like, can I ask you a favor? Can you
Speaker 1: please feed my cat? Babes? Yeah, I'm going to feed
Speaker 1: the cat all good, But my friends, like I, my
Speaker 1: golden rulers, don't ask me to do something that you
Speaker 1: wouldn't do with ease, and that rules a lot of
Speaker 1: things out, Like for me, I don't ask my friends
Speaker 1: for help with moving because I don't want you to
Speaker 1: ask me. Please let me out of it. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do it. It's grunt work in this situation though,
Speaker 1: it's the cornering that's getting me. And like, if your friends,
Speaker 1: like I get it, it's really annoying, but please like that.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem like it's happening at all. They're
Speaker 1: kind of like, why don't you just do it?
Speaker 3: What do you think I've been in a like my
Speaker 3: Fami and I go on to Bali soon as per,
Speaker 3: and we've got two dogs, Tory and Pepper. Tory is
Speaker 3: a little Boston Yorkshire Terrier, the tiny little terrier, and
Speaker 3: Pepper is a poodle. Have been known to call her
Speaker 3: a teacup, but that is obviously against the law to
Speaker 3: have a teacup poodle, so it's a toy poodle for
Speaker 3: all those interesting whoa. And they're very cute and very
Speaker 3: they're like ten years old now. But the biggest difficulty
Speaker 3: is trying to find someone to look after them because
Speaker 3: my relatives have dogs that have beef with my dogs.
Speaker 3: So we're kind of in a rock and a hard place.
Speaker 3: Can't bring the doggies to Bali. Unlike Amber Herd and
Speaker 3: Johnny Depp bringing their little Yorkshires to Australia. We don't
Speaker 3: have Barnaby Joyce waving us through to later incriminate us.
Speaker 3: Not yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wouldn't rule it out.
Speaker 3: So it's a hard it's a hard thing. And I
Speaker 3: think if she's going to enumerate you then look into it.
Speaker 1: That's not coming up. This is not like I'm going
Speaker 1: to pay you for this thing.
Speaker 3: And this person sounds like them to say I didn't
Speaker 3: settle myself with children and pets. Like clearly they're not
Speaker 3: a pet person and they should be able to enjoy
Speaker 3: their civil liberties as someone not looking after a job.
Speaker 3: Like dogs are crazy. It means you can't get really
Speaker 3: like you can't go out really late because you've got
Speaker 3: to be home with them, Like you can't have sleepovers.
Speaker 1: It's you know, as the age old saying goes, you
Speaker 1: never give someone a responsibility. If it's a responsibility, it's
Speaker 1: a job. If it's a job, pay them flex and frooms.
Speaker 3: That'd a best what a duo today, FLEXI. I'm asking
Speaker 3: the big question, which is are Blazers the new peplum top?
Speaker 1: Is this an original thought?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Have I ever had one? That is the question that
Speaker 3: we should be asking this in the cranium? Is R
Speaker 3: are Blazers the new peplum top? Read this? It's from TikTok.
Speaker 3: Obviously I am the biggest hater, and today I'll be
Speaker 3: hating on the Blazer girlies, not the corporate blazer girlies.
Speaker 3: I understand them. It's off as a tire. It fits
Speaker 3: the vibe. But dear Lord, after wearing your blazer to
Speaker 3: work Monday to Friday, way on earth are you wearing
Speaker 3: it to brunch on Saturday with your ripped mum jeans
Speaker 3: and heels. It's really coming for the jugular or God
Speaker 3: forbid with a corset, a pair of cargoes and trainers.
Speaker 3: Why have we let business casual become such a trend
Speaker 3: the new casual? If I see one more brightly colored
Speaker 3: Zara blazer throwing a fit?
Speaker 1: Why have we let business casually become a trend? What
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 2: For me?
Speaker 3: It's definitely a hangover of the girl bussification of women
Speaker 3: quite a serious issue.
Speaker 1: Some would say you got it out for the girl boss,
Speaker 1: like I was not coming from inside the house. Every
Speaker 1: issue the girl bust, the girl bus, the babe. You're
Speaker 1: trying to throw people off your set. They already know
Speaker 1: who you are. Sis see, you get it. You're like
Speaker 1: other girl buses. You're different. You go by CEO respectfully.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have been looking at the blazers in
Speaker 3: my cupboard, like today, I wanted to wear something over
Speaker 3: my singlets. I just even before reading this, have stopped
Speaker 3: wearing all my blazers. I mean it, I was looking
Speaker 3: at them.
Speaker 1: The roller tape.
Speaker 3: Here shoes again like I've got one jacket, like lightweight
Speaker 3: jacket that I'd wear. But I just feel kind of
Speaker 3: like in this style.
Speaker 1: Is because I've been in summer.
Speaker 3: No, I've been going out, think I need to elevate
Speaker 3: the outfit, Like am I gonna bring out the sparkly gloves?
Speaker 3: Maybe not? But am I ready to wear a blazer
Speaker 3: with the beautiful like structurally sound No, but I don't
Speaker 3: know what the alternative it is. It's also like crocs.
Speaker 3: I'm over them, but what's next? Because I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: deny my afft crocs I've worn and I'm not exaggerating crocs.
Speaker 3: For the last six months, not a single time have
Speaker 3: I been wearing runners. The only other enclosed shoe that
Speaker 3: I wear are high heel boots that I have to
Speaker 3: get someone to rip off my feet because then you
Speaker 3: pos off my calves. I've experienced, and you actually have
Speaker 3: and rollerblades, so you heard it here first. If you
Speaker 3: have any alternatives to blazers or crocs, please tell me,
Speaker 3: because I'm desperate, don't maybe go on Pinterest. You've been
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