1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: If I had seen someone, you know, a month before, 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: and was seeing them again, I felt like I had 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: to be smaller because that was what people wanted me 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: to be. And I was such this huge success of like, 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: oh my god, I lost this much this quick. It's like, well, 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: you have to keep doing it, like you can't then 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: retract and be this other body and it's like you failed. 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome back to the Rise and Conker Podcast. 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: It is your host, Georgie Stephenson. As some of you 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 2: may know, I'm currently on maternity leave, so Tim and 11 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: I are soaking up the newborn bubble and new parent 12 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: life with our little baby girl. But I did not 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: want to leave my ronc and with nothing, So we 14 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: are bringing back the best bits of the Rise and 15 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: Concer Podcast. We have nearly over two hundred episodes, so 16 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: I thought it would be a cool idea to bring 17 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: you snippets from the most listened to, the most talked 18 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: about episodes and just give you the best bits in 19 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: a mini episode. So be prepared to get straight into 20 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: juicy topics, to feel inspired, to feel motivated, empowered, and 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: of course informed. These episodes are shorter, but they're just 22 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: full of the best bits. If you did like this 23 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: mini app, make sure you go to the show notes 24 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: where we have linked the full episode. And I just 25 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: want to say I really appreciate you guys still supporting 26 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: the show while I'm taking some time off to enjoy 27 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: Baby Girl, and I just can't wait to be back 28 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: in your ears with fresh episodes in the new year. 29 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: We have been planning the next next season and there 30 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: are so many exciting guests and surprises coming up. So 31 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: I really hope you enjoy this mini episode. Let's get 32 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: straight into the show. 33 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: Okak, So let's switch gears and let's chat about your journey. 34 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: So I know on Instagram you say you're once known 35 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: for weight loss and now you help others accept themselves 36 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: and their bodies. Can you tell us a bit more 37 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: about your fitness journey, where it all again, and where 38 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: you are now? 39 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: Yes, look, you might be here for a while. It's 40 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: bit of a long story, but I'll look, I'll try 41 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: and condense it. So I kind of always grew up 42 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: as like the bigger girl. I was like, I don't know, 43 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't want this to come off, you know, offensive, 44 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: But I was like that funny fat friend, Like that 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: was just who I felt like I was. And I 46 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: don't mean that in a bad way, like I took 47 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: that on and I guess throughout my life, yeah, I 48 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: was kind of the bigger girl in a group of 49 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: smaller girls, if that makes sense as well. But for 50 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: me my weight loss, I was never really worried about 51 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: my weight growing up. I kind of just accepted it 52 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: and that's who I was, and you know, I was 53 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: proud and I was fine. But it actually all started, 54 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: like my fitness kind of journey started me and my 55 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: husband moved out. We weren't married at the time, but 56 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: we moved out and I just got really sick. It 57 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: was at the start of I think it was twenty thirteen, 58 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: and I just got sick and had a bit of 59 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: a virus and wasn't hungry and just felt out of 60 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: sorts and I ended up really random. But I was like, 61 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: I feel a little bit lighter. So I weighed myself, 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: and obviously I don't advocate for this anymore, but I 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: weighed myself and the numbers were less than last time. 64 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: So I was like, ooh, this was a bit of 65 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, maybe this was the kickstart, which is just 66 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: so messed up. Even in the first place, the fact 67 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: that I was sick and lost weight, and then took 68 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: that as like, oh, I need to keep losing weight. 69 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: That's a whole nother story, but but yeah, so felt 70 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: a difference and then kind of got on the scales 71 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: and saw that number and it kind of kickstarted the 72 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: obsession with weighing and stepping on the scales and dieting. 73 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: And then I didn't train at first. I always made 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: sport growing up, but not purposeful weight loss gym sort 75 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: of things. So yeah, I started weighing myself dieting and 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: kept getting on the scales and noticing the weight loss, 77 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: and then I got into crossfits, so I started training 78 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: at the gym a lot more. My brother is a 79 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: big fitness PT loves that stuff. He was like, come 80 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: to the gym and try it, and yeah, I got 81 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: sucked into that whole bubble. So then I started calorie 82 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: counting because I wanted to lose more. So I kind 83 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: of got to this point of, you know, just with food, 84 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: I lost a lot of weight, and then of course 85 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to lose more, so I 86 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: got into training and then that was kind of the 87 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: next step. So then it all combined and I was 88 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: calorie counting, I was training all the time. It kind 89 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: of just like snowballed. And I guess I always had 90 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: this underlying pressure to lose weight because I was kind 91 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: of that like, yeah, bigger friend. So yeah, deep down, 92 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: I kind of had that pressure of being a body 93 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: type that I thought everyone wanted me to be. Yeah. 94 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: So then within that sixth so within like yeah, about 95 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: six months, when I was counting and training and stuff, 96 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: I lost a huge amount of weight. I'm not a 97 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: big numbers person now, I don't like sharing weights and stuff, 98 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: but yeah, it was a lot. It was very quickly, 99 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: and I was obviously so consumed by dieting weighing less. 100 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: I also loved the compliments, like you know when people 101 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: are saying, oh you look amazing and blah blah blah. 102 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: Just fed like fed that obsession. I was like, oh 103 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: my god, I need more, I need more. And I 104 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: ended up holding on to this identity of like I 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: was the girl that lost all the weight, like that 106 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: was me, you know. So if I saw someone and 107 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: hadn't lost more weight, in my head, that was a 108 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: bit of a failure. Like I always had to be 109 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: less and less and less because that was who I was. 110 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: I was so interesting that you yeah, I almost like 111 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: took on this new identity. 112 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And it was like if I had 113 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: seen someone, you know, a month before, and we're seeing 114 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: them again. I felt like I had to be smaller 115 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: because that was what people wanted me to be. And 116 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: I was such this huge success of like, oh my god, 117 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: I lost this much this quick. It's like, well, you 118 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: have to keep doing it, like you can't then retract 119 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: and be this other body and it's like you failed. 120 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: So it was like this huge unspoken pressure and I 121 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: put it on myself like no one else was thinking it, 122 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, it was just in my head of like 123 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: I needed to be that. And it was a weird time, 124 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: Like I it was my last year of UNI, So 125 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: it was my final year of UNI when I lost 126 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: all of this weight and I was working full time 127 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: and I was just juggling so much. I like, I 128 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: don't know how I did it. I was at the 129 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: gym for hours, like I would go in the morning 130 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: and then I'd trained in the afternoons as well, and 131 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: then I'd work on the weekends. I was working in 132 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: Sydney as well, so I was like traveling. I did 133 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: my internship like teaching internship this year as well, so 134 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: it was just like all of these things. I think 135 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: I was kind of just on an autopilot, like I 136 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: don't know, probably talking about it too, yeah, and I 137 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: just it was like, I think of it now, like 138 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: how did I ever do that? Like that? It just 139 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: sounds so draining to me now. And then Yeah, so 140 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: after that year, I kind of kept wanting more and 141 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 1: more and more, and I started tracking macros and weighing 142 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: food and became more obset with training and did a 143 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: few CrossFit comps and stuff like that. So I was 144 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: like this extreme and I was like, I have quite 145 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: an addictive personality, so like I take something on and 146 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm just so focused on it. Yeah, and yeah. It 147 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: lasted like probably three to four years of fully training 148 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: and tracking and literally tracking every single bit of food 149 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: that I ate. And then finally my body kind of 150 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: was giving me signals of like, you know, I can't 151 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: do this anymore. And that was in like twenty seventeen, 152 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: so that was the year of our wedding. Yeah, which 153 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: is kind of weird when I actually think about it, 154 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: but that's kind of when it all changed and I 155 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: realized that I needed to kind of snap out of 156 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: this whole diving and it wasn't helping me long term, 157 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: and I was just so unhappy and so drained. 158 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: And then tell us that transition from realizing that, you know, 159 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: your body couldn't withstand that much stress and pressure, and 160 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: then tell us the transition because I resonated this story 161 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: so much and personally have been in the position where 162 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: you have been, you know, this certain identity, like you said, 163 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: for three or four years, you have been, you know, 164 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: the person who always lost weight and gym and tracking 165 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: all that sort of thing, and then transitioning into this 166 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: more balance, more you person Like what that like? 167 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Was that hard? Yeah? So hard? I actually for a 168 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: period there. So it was weird how it happened because 169 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: my wedding was in September. I should say our wedding, 170 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: not my wedding. I've always thought my wedding like, oh man. 171 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 4: I'd be that time I do it. And I say, 172 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: like my house too. 173 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: Yes, sim excuse me. I know Nick's probably going, oh 174 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: my god, yeah, like, don't even bother that I was there. 175 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: It's all good. Yeah. So that year I just I 176 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: ended up actually falling into a bit of like a 177 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: binge restrict cycle, which you know, I think it's kind 178 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: of inevitable when you've died it for so long, and 179 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: my body just couldn't withstand it anymore. Like, yeah, I 180 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: was assuming huge amounts of calories in one sitting, and 181 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: then I just had so much guilt and shame and 182 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: was going to bed feeling so sick. And I kind 183 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: of got to this point of just being fed up, 184 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: like I was so unhappy, and you know, in the 185 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: lead up to our wedding, it's not how I wanted 186 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: to feel, is consumed by food and training and not 187 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: even enjoying the process of planning with my husband to 188 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: be like I was at the gym. Yeah, And I 189 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: remember I so vividly remember thinking about the dinner at 190 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: the wedding and thinking about the food on our honeymoon 191 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: and being so like stressed and anxious about how I 192 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: was going to track that, Like how I was I 193 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: going to track my wedding dinner? Wow, I know, I 194 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: don't know, And I just knew kind of at this 195 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: point when I was just so consumed, like I wasn't 196 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: enjoying life, I was like, something needs to change, and I, yeah, 197 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: I had this whole identity of being that person lost weight, 198 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: so I really struggled to know how to move away 199 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: from that as well. So there was actually a point 200 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: there and I spoke to my best friend about it 201 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I feel this pressure like 202 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: this is who I this is why people follow me, 203 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: is to get these points and to lose weight and 204 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: to you know, be this like inverted Commas success. So 205 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: I said to her, like, what do I do? I 206 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: was posting photos from you know, a couple months ago 207 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: when I looked like this, and I don't actually look 208 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: like this anymore, and I felt this pressure of not 209 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: being able to share my real life at that time 210 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: because of what people would say about my body and 211 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: that you know, I'd failed and whatever whatever. And she 212 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: was like, you've changed, your audience has changed, You're going 213 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: to keep changing. You're not going to be like this forever, 214 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: so just do it, like just post it and to 215 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: like own it. I was like, oh my god, okay, 216 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: so yeah, I remember post there was this one photo 217 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: and it went absolutely wild both ways. That kind of 218 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: like a bit of a transformation of you know, what 219 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: I was like at my smallest to what I was 220 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: like then, and it was in bikinis in both so 221 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: you could obviously see my body easily. And yeah, there 222 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: was lots of support, like you know, nine to nine 223 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: percent was support, but then of course people that came 224 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: on and you know, had their two cents worth, which whatever. 225 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was really hard to kind of accept 226 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: that and just know almost know that those people that 227 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: had something negative to say were going to be filtered out. 228 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: So and that's what she said to me as well. 229 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: She's like, people that don't resonate with you now will leave, 230 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: and that's fine, Like they're not the people you want 231 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: to stick around anyway. So yeah, I kind of just 232 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: had to accept that maybe it was gonna backfry a 233 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: little bit in terms of you know, follower numbers and 234 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: whatever whatever, but it actually, in the long term was 235 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: the best thing ever. Like, yeah, I'm a completely different 236 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: person to what I was when I was sharing that 237 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: and when I started my Instagram as well, because it 238 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: did start as like a weight loss page. So yeah, 239 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: it's done like a full three sixty. 240 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: Wow. 241 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: Can I say what an amazing best friend you have? 242 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: I know she is askiro shat At Candace if you're 243 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: listening you're amazing. Yeah, she's been there through it all, 244 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: and you know, I need And I think it's so 245 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: easy to get so caught up in this Instagram world 246 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: and you know, take on all of his opinions and stuff. 247 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: So I'm so thankful to have best friend and husband 248 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: and my brother. Oh my god, my brother is the most. 249 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can relate, but if anyone's 250 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: going to put you in their place, that put you 251 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: in your place, it's your brother. Like, yeah, you think 252 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: you are, take take it down a notch, like you're 253 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: not that special, which I love, like I love having 254 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: exactly and I'm the same with him, so that I 255 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: can't complain, but having people around me to just be like, 256 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: snap out of it, like you are you, We love 257 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: you because of this. Everyone else is going to love 258 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: you because of this. So yeah, I think I was 259 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: really stuck in my own head about showing that and 260 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: showing that kind of journey away from dieting when it 261 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: was sort of all I'd ever shared. Mm. 262 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: Well, and I remember watching your stories and I remember 263 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 3: you did a Q and a highlight of you know, 264 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: your restrictive diets, and you were saying, you know, there 265 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: was literally one point where you were weighing let us 266 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: leaves while you're eating dinner, and now you know you have, 267 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: like you said, completely one eighty. 268 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 4: Can you kind of tell us what your what helped. 269 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: You with, you know, easing into a less well a 270 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: non restrictive and diet, and also your relationship with food, 271 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: because I think most girls in the early twenties go 272 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: through some sort of transition with this, like you said, 273 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: they feel like, you know, they have to look a 274 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: certain way and be a certain person. And I really 275 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: resonated with what you said of how you just, you know, 276 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: wanted to weigh less and take up less space. 277 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: And I think. 278 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: As young women, we all go through this, you know, 279 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: sort of thing where we want to take up less 280 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 3: space and we just want to be smaller. 281 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 4: And it's so bizarre because it just makes no sense. 282 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 4: We look at, you know, the bigger picture. 283 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: So talk us through, you know, what was going through 284 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: your head back then, and then how your relationship with 285 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 3: food is now. 286 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it was crazy, Like when I think back 287 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: to some of the stuff that I was doing, I 288 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: just want to slap myself, like snap out of it. 289 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Like, yeah, I remember and when 290 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: I talk about best friend, Like when I was at 291 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: her wedding. I remember there was like a buffet and 292 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: I was literally again sitting there going like I can't 293 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: eat that because I don't know what's in it. I 294 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: don't know how it was cooked. I can't track it. 295 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: Like I was just so consumed by this thought of 296 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: constantly having to track everything, and I just thought, that's 297 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: what you did. You know, that's what and it is. 298 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: That's what macro canon is. You know, inverted commas again, 299 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: that's what you do. You track all of it. You know, 300 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: you need to know every single gram of carb, fat, protein, 301 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: all of that. So I guess for me, in my 302 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: head at that time, I didn't see it as a problem. 303 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't until again like Nick mum Ben, like my brother, 304 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: everyone was like, are you seriously bringing your own food 305 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: to these events? And you know, I remember going to 306 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: the movies like, oh my god. Even saying this out 307 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: loud is like so cringey for me now, But I 308 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: remember going to the movies and I was literally Nick 309 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: was so embarrassed. I would literally take like carrot sticks 310 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: that a weighed, homus that was weighed, like all these 311 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: different little containers of snacks so that I could sit 312 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: in the movies and eat my snacks while he had 313 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: his like popcorn and frozen coke and whatever. And I 314 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: was sitting there like crunching on carrot like what I 315 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: remember him going like are you actually bringing that? And 316 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: then like smuggle it in my bag and yeah. So 317 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: I was just in this crazy mentality where I had 318 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: to track absolutely everything, and I remember I ended up 319 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: getting to the point of like if I would overeat 320 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: one day, then I would hoard then like so the 321 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: calories that I had eaten, I would take them off 322 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: the next day, so that then the next day my 323 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: total was less because I had carried it over to 324 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: the next day, if that makes sense. So it was 325 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: like this constant cycle of you know, eating more than 326 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: what I had whack predicted, I guess, and then yeah, 327 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: minusing that off the next day, and then I'd do 328 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: it again. And I was also hoarding calories, so like 329 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: not eating much through the day and then hoarding it 330 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: all for this one meal or one dessert or whatever. 331 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, just my whole mentality was just so obsessive 332 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: and just so dictated by numbers. Like even now I 333 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: remember things I was eating then that I don't even 334 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: like eating, like I hate tuna, Like I hate tuna, 335 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: and I remember being like, no, tune's great protein, it's 336 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: great in salads. Like now i'd eat it, and I 337 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: forced myself. 338 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: You know, Kate, You know it's really funny because I, 339 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: much like you, was super restrictive at one point, and 340 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: I what helped me was reading like basically books that 341 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: had lots of scientific facts about why diets don't work. 342 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 343 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: I remember reading this study where they said, you know, 344 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: when you get to a point when you're so restrictive, 345 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: your taste buds change and your body will basically think 346 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: things are you know, so delicious and so tasty, when 347 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: in reality, it's like your body will basically accept anything 348 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: because it's so right. 349 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: Yes, And I remembered this. 350 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: I remember eating like quote unquote diet foods that just 351 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 3: like were not actually you know, tasty or anything like 352 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: I taste them now, I would not like them. 353 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 4: And I remember tim tasting them and being like this 354 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: is so gross. And I remember taste them and being like, no, babe, 355 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 4: this tastes so so yum. 356 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, can relate. 357 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: You literally brain washed yourself and your body into thinking 358 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: you liked certain foods. 359 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 4: And this stuff is it not crazy? 360 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: It's so weird and it's like you eat things just 361 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: because it fits in your calories for the day, Like yeah, 362 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: but you don't even like the food, but it fits 363 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: perfectly into this stupid equation, so you eat it anyway, 364 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: like saying yes, So yeah, I kind of got to 365 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: that point of just and again, like you know, before 366 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: the wedding and stuff, being like I can't live like this, 367 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: like how am I going to do this for the 368 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: rest of my life? And like I said, kind of 369 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: got into this Yeah, sorry you. 370 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 4: Go, No I was. 371 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: I was just going to say, so, what actually helped 372 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: you with that transition? 373 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: Yeah? So I remember having one like really big binge 374 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: episode and the next morning I just still felt so crappy. 375 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: I went onto the podcast app and just searched Binge Eating, 376 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, cause I knew, you know, something 377 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: was going on, and I kind of wanted to learn 378 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: a bit more about it. So I literally just tapped 379 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: him Binge Eating and this podcast called Brain over Binge. 380 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: I recommend it to anyone who feels like they're kind 381 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: of out of control around food and have that kind 382 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: of yeah, like that binge sort of tendency, I guess. 383 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: So there's a podcast called Brain over Binge. I listened 384 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: to that and I loved it. Like the first episode, 385 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: within the first couple of minutes, I was just like, 386 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: she's speaking to me, like this is me all over 387 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: and just resonated so much with what she was saying. 388 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, I listened to every single episode of that 389 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: over a space of time, obviously, and I ended up 390 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: buying her book as well. So she's got a book 391 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: of the same name, and I loved that. So I 392 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: kind of once I realized that, yeah, this is where 393 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: I am, I wanted to learn why. So you know, 394 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: why was I feeling like I needed to eat all 395 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: of this food in one sitting when it's still going 396 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: to be there tomorrow the next day. You know, if 397 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: you never have to diet again, you're never going to 398 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: feel restricted again. So that's kind of what I kept 399 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: getting out of it, is this whole I'm binging because 400 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm dieting, And if I cut that dieting factor out, 401 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: then I'm not going to feel this need to eat 402 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: such huge amounts of foods in one sitting because I'm 403 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: never going to feel restricted again. If that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, 404 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: So I kind of just did like lots of research 405 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: and reading and listened to podcasts and that sort of thing. 406 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: And obviously there were some that I listened to that 407 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: didn't really resonate with me, and then that was some 408 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: that I really liked, and same with books as well. 409 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: So yeah, brain over Binge is amazing. And then I 410 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: guess for me, I knew, you know, she was talking 411 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: a lot about how when you're recovering, you're going to 412 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: have to learn to accept your body changing. And that's 413 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: a big fear, you know, of letting yourself eat what 414 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: you want. You're like, well, all I'm gonna eat is 415 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: chocolate and chips and biscuits. You know, I'm gonna put 416 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: on all this weight, and you know that's me. That's 417 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: me for the rest of my life. Like I'm just 418 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: going to live off this. And I had that thought 419 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: and it almost made you accept it of like, if 420 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: that is what you want to eat for the next 421 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: two months, let yourself eat it, you know whatever, however long. 422 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: So I kind of just let myself do it, like 423 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: I told her. I remember telling Nick and my mom 424 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: being like, I think I'm going to stop tracking food 425 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: and they looked at me like I had three heads. 426 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: They're like, what do you mean? Like, because I've been 427 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: doing it for so long. That was so supportive. If 428 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: Nick especially was very excited because it meant, you know, 429 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: no more carried at the movies and we could go 430 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: out for dinner and stuff like that. So having that 431 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: support around me was great as well. But yeah, I 432 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: kind of had to just accept that they were going 433 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: to be changes in my body and in what I 434 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: was eating, and to just try and listen more to 435 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: what I actually wanted rather than what an app was 436 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: telling me that I wanted, If that makes sense. 437 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: And don't you think it's quite crazy, because yeah, like 438 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: I like said, I went through pretty much the same thing. 439 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: Is like at the start, you're like, oh my god, 440 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 3: all I'm going to want to eat is you know, 441 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: ice cream and all this sort of stuff and death 442 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 3: at the start, like you do, like I eat all 443 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: the foods. Yes, it's like your body sort of like 444 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: resets and balances and you're. 445 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, like it just takes. 446 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: It's so weird. 447 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 3: Oh wow, I actually know exactly what to eat and 448 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: when to eat, and I feel so good and this 449 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: all doesn't have to be so hard. 450 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: No, And I think it's hard to trust yourself. Like 451 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: I guess you lose some you lose touch with what 452 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: you actually like and what you want and what you 453 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: want to eat and whatever that you think you're gonna 454 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: stop dieting and like you say, just eat all of 455 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: eat all of the things, you know. And I did 456 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: the exact same thing, like there were months there or 457 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: I was just eating whatever whatever. But then you get 458 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: to your it's weird. You get to this point and 459 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: your body's like okay, like I've had enough now, and 460 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: I know it loses yeah, like it literally it like 461 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: loses its power as well. It's like literally just heal. 462 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can literally have that all the time, Like 463 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 4: I don't need to have that. 464 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. And when you've had your aureos, sorry, no, you're right, 465 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: Like when you've had oreos every day for two months, 466 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: you're like, fuck me, I don't want another oreo ever, 467 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: Like I'm so over it, you know, like you almost 468 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: eat it so much that you're just like, oh, I 469 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: don't even want that, Like give me something else. 470 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And isn't it funny, Like I remember back in 471 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: the day, just food, just consumed my whole like thought process, 472 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 3: and I remember every single day it was like what 473 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 3: am I going to eat? And what time I'm going 474 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 3: to eat and what flavors I'm going to eat and 475 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 3: all this sort of thing. 476 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 4: And it's so funny because now, literally the other. 477 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: Day, I was having a really busy work day and 478 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: this doesn't have and too often, but I like, you know, 479 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: like I just needed some food to basically sustain me 480 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: so I could like go throughout this busy day. And 481 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying to Tim, you know, after dinner, I was like, 482 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: oh my god, sometimes I wish like we didn't even 483 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: have to eat, so I could just kind of like 484 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: living my life and not like think about it. And 485 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: he said to me, He's like, honestly, like if you 486 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: think back in the day, how obsessed you were with 487 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 3: food and what you're going to eat and when you're 488 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: going to eat, to now when you're like not. 489 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: Eating, I don't even care about eating. 490 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost just like I'll do it because I 491 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: need the brain power and the energy rather than because 492 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: I'm so obsessed. 493 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 4: With the what I'm putting in my mouth. Like he 494 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 4: was like, it's comes such a long way, and it. 495 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's insane. 496 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: It's wild how obsessed and you know, consumed your brain 497 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: once was to when you give it, you don't give 498 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 3: it the power anymore. 499 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, you'd be the like I remember waking 500 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: up and yeah, thinking about what I was going to 501 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: eat that day, what I had pre programmed into my 502 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: calories and whatever. They're going to bed thinking the same thing. 503 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, did I hit this, did I eat this? 504 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: Did I eat enough of this? It's like, oh my god, 505 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: like there's other stuff going on you don't like Yeah, 506 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: and yeah, when now like open the fridge and I'm like, hmmm, 507 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: what do I actually feel like? Yeah? 508 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 4: What I actually feel like? 509 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: And this is an interesting question and just something I 510 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 3: personally found through my journey of ditching diet culture is 511 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: when you know, before when I was quite consumed with 512 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: what I was eating and how. 513 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: I looked and when I was training, and when I 514 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 4: was training. 515 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 3: It's like that was pretty much a full time job. 516 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: And then when I stopped, you know, ditch diet culture 517 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 3: and didn't let it take you know, a front seat 518 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: in my life, it's like I had all this like 519 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 3: brain capacity for other things, get like so much more done, 520 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: and I'm so much more productive and I've done so 521 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: much more with my life. 522 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: Do you agree? Oh, one hundred. It's like it literally 523 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: I've read a couple of things where, you know, it's 524 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: almost like society is trying to make you so consumed 525 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: by all of these things so that you can't achieve 526 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: anything else. It's like you're so busy worrying about this 527 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: that you're not going to achieve anything else, so you're 528 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: going to be kind of like dwindled down. And it's 529 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: so true, like when that's all you're thinking about, you 530 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: don't have the brain capacity in the space to do 531 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: anything else, Like I'm so consumed me. 532 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: I've actually heard something and this is a bit controversial, 533 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: so I'm just going to say it. 534 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: Go on, go on as I do. 535 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 3: So basically, I kind of know what you were saying before. 536 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: And I've heard this too that you know, diet and 537 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 3: the way women are supposed to look was made up 538 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 3: by the patriarchy to basically keep us busy and to 539 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: keep small so we were, you know, put in our 540 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: place and we weren't trying to run the world. 541 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: Yep, and to like almost keep us quiet, like if 542 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: we're so yeah, if we're so consumed by all of that, 543 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: what else are we going to do? Like we're not 544 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: a threat to twenty one? 545 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 3: You know exactly, And isn't that like I one hundred 546 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: percent even if it's if it is like controversial, like 547 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: I one hundred percent believe that because I have experienced 548 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 3: that in my life to being like it just even 549 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 3: the physical you know, the physical aspect of wanting to 550 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: make yourself smaller and taking up less space, wanting to 551 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: be yourself, having your own thoughts and really you know, 552 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: taking up space and being who you want to be 553 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: and having this voice it's in saying, isn't it? 554 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? And it's like why would we want to be less? Like, 555 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: you know, you should be wanting to be more and 556 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: more and more and the more of you the better, 557 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, like the more you can share with people 558 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: the better, rather than being so like I don't know, 559 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: put in this little box of like that's all you 560 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: care about is your body and food and boring, you. 561 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 4: Know, literally like looking the same, like how fucking yeah? 562 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: Who wants that? 563 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: All right? Okay, So something else that I really want 564 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: to touch on before we switch gears again, And this 565 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 3: is from a post on your Instagram and you're wearing 566 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: a beautiful yellow bikini. And ye your caption you wrote, 567 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: and this is quoting you. 568 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: I okay, here we go, Here we go. 569 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: I used to dream of the day when I would 570 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 3: actually like what I saw in the mirror. I vividly 571 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 3: remember wishing to wake up in someone else's body and 572 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 3: thought that that would make me happier, more confident, and 573 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: ultimately give me the life I always wanted. But wake 574 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: but the wake up call is the life I was 575 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 3: dreaming of was more capable of. 576 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 4: Happening in my own body. 577 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: I think I butchered that a. 578 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: Little bit, but you get the idea, Get the idea. 579 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: I love this so much because it's very much what 580 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: we just chatted about. And I wanted to ask if 581 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: you have any advice for listeners who might not be 582 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 3: loving the skin they're in and steps on, you know, 583 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 3: progressing to feel more confident in their own skin. 584 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that, like this whole caption and that 585 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: idea of you know, wanting to look like someone else 586 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: and be someone else, it's just this idea of having 587 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: that body and losing weight is success, you know. And 588 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: I just thought when I lose weight, all my problems 589 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: are gone. I'm going to be happy and confident. My 590 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: life's going to be amazing. Like if I look this 591 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: way and it's just not like so not true, and 592 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: I put things off, you know, put so many things 593 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: off that I wanted to do just because I didn't 594 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: lose a couple of kilos, Like I didn't look a 595 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: certain way, so I thought I couldn't do it. Like 596 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: life is happening now, and I think that's what I've learned, 597 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, over a long period of time. But like 598 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: I lost the weight, I got that body, I got 599 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: that goal body, and what I thought was that and 600 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't you know, I didn't have it all together. 601 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: My problems were still there. It's not a ticket to 602 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: the perfect life or that you suddenly have endless confidence 603 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: because you have lost weight. I was more self conscious 604 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: than ever at my smallest weight and was nitpicking more 605 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: things than when you know my body now being heavier 606 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: and whatever. So I think it's just to know that 607 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: this idea we have in our heads of that perfect 608 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: body and the ideal body and wanting to look like 609 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: that and not feeling comfortable in ourselves. Even if you 610 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: have that body, you will still have something that you're 611 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: worried about or that you're self conscious about, Like it's 612 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: never going to go away, So why put it off? 613 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: And why I put life off when it's happening now 614 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: in your body, Like you can live your dream life 615 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: in the exact body that you have now, you don't 616 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: need to put anything off. Does that make sense? Yes? Yeah? 617 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 3: And do you have any tips for you know, like 618 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 3: I said, people who are really struggling, and like, I 619 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: guess I am because you know, logically you say that 620 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: and they're like, yes, I get it, logically I get it. 621 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 622 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, is like a whole different story than embodying that. 623 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: What were your sort of kind of things that helped you? 624 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: So the thing that kind of switched my thinking with 625 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: body Another book recommendation, it's called Body Positive Power. It's 626 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: by Megan Krab. She's body Possy Panda on Instagram. She's 627 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: got to like a large following, She's amazing on Instagram. 628 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: So I bought her book and there was so much 629 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: in there, Like I remember highlighting sections and reading them 630 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: over and over and she was constantly just like building 631 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: you up to realize that your worth is not your appearance. 632 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: So I highly recommend that book Body Positive Power. It's 633 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: amazing and I think it's really important as well. You know, 634 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're the one controlling 635 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: your feed, like your Instagram feed and what you're consuming. 636 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: So I think diversifying what you're seeing and following people 637 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: that don't look like you is a big of kind 638 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: of getting a little bit of diversity back into your 639 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: feed and realizing that you can have confidence, you know, 640 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: in all of these different body types, and surrounding yourself 641 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: with women that are confident and uplifting and sharing these 642 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, that same sort of message of yeah, your 643 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: worth is not your body. I mean, it takes a 644 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: lot of learning, Like you know, it's easy for me 645 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: to say now like four years down the track, so yeah, 646 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't come overnight, and it's a constant almost like 647 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: a constant learning. You know, you have to keep actively 648 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: seeking that out because the world wants you to see 649 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: the other body type. The world is programming you to 650 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: see this inverted commas ideal all the time, so you 651 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: almost have to push against that and actively seek out 652 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: people that are doing the same thing, you know, that 653 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: are pushing against that whole idea and surround yourself with that. 654 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely podcasts and books and there's so much 655 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: out there on body acceptance and yeah, like learning to 656 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: love your body and self confidence in that. And also 657 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: following hashtags is a good one as well. So there's 658 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: so many hashtags out there and you can actually follow them, 659 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: not just people. So if you're wanting, you know, hashtag 660 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: self confidence or whatever it might be body acceptance or 661 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: flaws or stretch marks or whatever, you can follow that 662 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: and then that content will come up in your feed 663 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: as well. So can be another way of normalizing and 664 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, normalizing our bodies. 665 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 3: I absolutely love that and I couldn't agree more and 666 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 3: I think that was for me as well as such 667 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: a huge turning point is realizing that, you know, when 668 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 3: I got on Instagram, all I saw was white, mostly blonde, 669 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: like abnormally skinna, yeah, ripped bodies, and you know, like 670 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: it just we think it's our normal when we think 671 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 3: that society standards, because that's all we see was in 672 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 3: real life, like not on a screen, like that's all 673 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: I saw, but it's I was almost setting myself up 674 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 3: for failure. And so one hundred percent I love that 675 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 3: and That's a huge thing I did too, was just 676 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 3: following other bodies, you know, even following other not so 677 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: much even other bodies, but just other things not related 678 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: to your body. 679 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely definitely finding other like you know, hoscounts, like 680 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: renovating and like, yeah, stuff like that that takes you 681 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: away from focusing on your body as well. Is great 682 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: because I know my feed and you're probably the same, 683 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: was saturated with healthy recipes and healthy swaps and you know, 684 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: all of this shit and like before and after photos 685 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: and that's what I was consuming all the time. So 686 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: to have I don't know, even like following dog accounts 687 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: of like stuff like that, it's like breaking up that 688 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: constant diet culture that we're slammed with all the time. 689 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 3: And yeah, taking ownership of what you see and what 690 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: you consume. And I love sorry you go. 691 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: It's like when you're down at kmart or in coals, 692 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: you're not seeing that ideal body type, you know, you're 693 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: not seeing these chicks walk around all the time. Yeah, 694 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: we're consuming it twenty four to seven on the screen. Yes, 695 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: it's not it's not really life. It's not the average body. 696 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: So we need to stop. Yeah, thinking that it is 697 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: and that that's normal because it's actually not one hundred percent. 698 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 3: And also I love what you said about, you know, 699 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 3: consuming content in the way of books and podcasts. I 700 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 3: remember I did that for like a whole six months. 701 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: Is like I read every like Undiet Ditching diet culture 702 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 3: book and I read that book to it and it 703 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: was really good and then yeah, did you like it? Yeah, yes, 704 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: Megan is amazing, and yeah, there was definitely parts that 705 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 3: I feel like, didn't you know? 706 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: Some parts I was like eh, but then there was 707 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: some parts I was like, oh my god, this is amazing, like. 708 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. Yes, I've got another really good book for. 709 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 3: The audience if they're currently experiencing it. It's called The 710 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: Fuck It Diet Bike. 711 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, line, I've got that door. 712 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 4: Yes, And I think. 713 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: Because she is like so crude and she says things 714 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 3: so like how it is, I guess, and I'm love 715 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 3: a kind of like a bit of a comedy aspect 716 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 3: in a. 717 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 4: Book, and she does that really well, so it was like, yeah, 718 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 4: enjoyable to read. 719 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: And also just eat it by Laura Thomas was favorite 720 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 3: of mine as well. 721 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: I literally have all of those just Laura Thomas is amazing. 722 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: Her podcast is great as well. She's yeah, she's got 723 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: a Have you listened to it? It's called Don't Salt 724 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: My Game? 725 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 4: No? 726 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: I haven't. Yeah, it's really good, she interviewed. Yeah, anyway, 727 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: it's great. Okay, people want to listen. 728 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for listening for another RNC episode. I 729 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 3: really appreciate taking the time to be here with me, 730 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 3: and also for taking the time for yourself. 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