1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: She's on the Money. She's on the Money. 2 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 3 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: for millennials who want financial freedom. Welcome back to another 4 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: one of our Friday Drinks episodes where we get to 5 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: celebrate the money wins from our She's on the Money community. 6 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: There are as always so many great wins and confessions 7 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: that are shared in our community each and every single day. 8 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: And Tony, Jess and I have spent a very big 9 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: part of our week this week talking about all the 10 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 2: things you guys have been up to, So today we 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: get to expand on that. Before we do that, let's 12 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: recap really quickly on what the She's on the Money 13 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: pods were about this week. Tony, what did we do 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: on our Monday money Diary? 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: Our money diarist this week talked about how she grew 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: up with lots of money in her family and then 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 3: her mum and stepdad split up and kind of went 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: from having lots of money to having no money and 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: there being lots of negative talk about money in her family, 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: and she had a family friend whose parents did really, 21 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: really well and she kind of got a bit of 22 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: inspiration from them and thought, how do I make my 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 3: life like this, how do I become successful? And saved 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 3: her butt off, worked really really hard and now is 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: earning six figures. She doesn't have a degree and she's 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: got investment properties and yeah, she's like fully turned her 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: life around. It was a really inspirational one. 28 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: I loved this one, as I do all of our 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: money diaries, but I genuinely felt after this Money Diarist 30 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: I'd made a new best friend. I was like, oh 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: my gosh, we are going to be best friends when 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: you're in Melbourne. Let us know so we can go 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: out for drinks. But I think that's my favorite thing 34 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: about the money Diaries. You kind of got. It's like 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: a hard and fast relationship, toty, Like you've gone out 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: on this speed day and they've told you everything about 37 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: their life in the first hour, and then you're like, well, 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: I guess we're married now. So you just instantly feel 39 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: so connected with the money diarists, and I don't know, 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: it feels really special to have that relationship. 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a brand new friendship straight away, which 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 3: is great because it makes us feel super super connected 43 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: and it's so lovely that people want to share their stories, 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: but also like we get to revel in their achievements 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: as well, even though we didn't really have anything else 46 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: so we had. 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: Nothing to do with them, and we just get cool friends, 48 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: which I love, and I just feel like we've got 49 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: this amazing little community of people that we are so 50 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: connected with. In fact, completely off topic, I actually did 51 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: an interview earlier this week and I was saying that, 52 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: you know, our community genuinely feels like they're my friends. 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: And I know that sounds really strange, but if someone 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: slides into my DMS and wants to share our money 55 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: win or a confession with me, I immediately just assume 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: it's because we're, you know, in the community, and that's 57 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: what the community does. And I was trying to reflect 58 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: on why that much be the case, like how come 59 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: do I just assume that these people are my friends, 60 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: even though you know, other people might be like, oh, 61 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: they're followers, they're just from your podcast, Like why are 62 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: you so interested? And I'm like, well, it's because everybody's 63 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: come from somewhere and you to manage our Facebook group 64 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: and every day we have people joining the community, and 65 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: nine times out of ten you can see how they've 66 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: come to our community. And it's actually because their friends 67 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: have added them, or their cousins have recommended them, or 68 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: their steps sister has done something to add them to 69 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: the group, and you kind of just go, oh, like, 70 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: I know you might not know me, but we're friends 71 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: by extension, because like your friends are my friends, and 72 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: it kind of is just like this seven degrees of 73 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: separation in a way from the original She's on the 74 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: money group, because it's just compounded. It's not like someone 75 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: just listened to the pod and joined the group. And 76 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: you know, even if that's the way you found us, 77 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: like that's epic, but it just feels like you're in 78 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: my little inner circle, even though maybe that's not true 79 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: because there's like two hundred thousand of you. 80 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: No, I think it's true. I think you can climb 81 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: that and you can say, yeah, two hundred thousand of 82 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: my closest friends. 83 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: But you're just immediately And I don't know if you 84 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: guys do this either. And maybe I'm just in the 85 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: really lucky position that people DM my personal page. I 86 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: just feel really lucky that people trust me so instantly 87 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: with their stories or want to share a win with 88 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: me because they know I'm just is excited about it, 89 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: like it's just cool stuff and I just really really 90 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: like it. But you know what else, I like our 91 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: Wednesday Deep Dive episode, Jess, what happened on this Wednesday's episode? 92 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 4: This Wednesday was a fun one. It was a little 93 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 4: bit different. You and g did a Q and A, 94 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: so we put a call out to the community asking 95 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: for questions and we got so many, So let us 96 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: know if you enjoyed that episode and maybe if we 97 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 4: should do a part two. But we had a heap 98 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: of questions that you went through and just answering some 99 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 4: really fun different things. Obviously, we get so many great 100 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: suggestions for episodes, and we try our best to make 101 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: sure that when there's something that's really commonly asked for 102 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: that we prioritize addressing that. And there's just so many 103 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 4: things in the finance world that we could and we'll 104 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: talk about. But it was really cool to be able 105 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 4: to go through and just like answer some more specific 106 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: questions that we saw people were really liking or asking 107 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 4: really frequently. 108 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: And if I'm being really selfish, Jess, I really liked 109 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: that episode. It was super fun because Georgia had collected 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 2: a number of questions from the community and it was 111 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: like just really quick fire, and I felt like we 112 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: could give a lot of value in a short amount 113 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: of time instead of just tackling one topic in an episode. 114 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: It was like, all right, well, this is my advice 115 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: on this, and this is what I do here, and 116 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: this is what this means. And it was just it 117 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: was one of those things where it's like getting into 118 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: a conversation with friends about money. It was just a 119 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: whole heap of fun. So yes, if you want more 120 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: of those, I'm absolutely keen for it. But moving on, 121 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: you guys might have noticed our best friend Ryan John 122 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: is working his little butt off today so hasn't been 123 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: able to join us to record our Friday Drinks episode. 124 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: So Tony, do you think you have feet big enough 125 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: to fill those shoes? 126 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: I'm taking the helm and it feels weird. I don't 127 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: know how I'm going to go, So please direct any 128 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: feedback to Victoria Divine. I know that all two hundred 129 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: thousand of you are very good friends of her. Feedback 130 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: past straight onto, but I'll do my best, do my 131 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: dandas all. 132 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: Right, I believe what have you got to share with 133 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: us today? 134 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: All right, Alicia says that I've finished my ten thousand 135 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: dollars money challenge after only starting at the beginning of 136 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: the year. She's crazy exciting. Yeah at the. 137 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: Beginning of the year. Ten grand it's not even twelve months. 138 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: Mate, Calm down, I know. And it's going to go 139 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: towards traveling or a new car if she can't travel 140 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: when she finishes UNI next year, she's she's studying as well. 141 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: God, it's so scary that we're thinking that way. Or 142 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: if I can travel at the end of next year. 143 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: Oh remember when we used to book trips more than 144 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: a year in advance, go on to those days. 145 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: Well, I actually need to renew my passport at the moment, 146 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 3: and I'm like, what's the point in spending three hundred 147 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: dollars on this when I'm not going to do with. 148 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: Them because there's so much more paperwork to do if 149 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: you let it completelyire. That's why I'm going to be 150 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: paying for mine. But yeah, mine is going to expire 151 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: at the end of this year and I really need 152 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: to redo it. But yeah, I just don't want it 153 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: to expire because you have to get out your birth 154 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: certificate and stuff, and that is that is an ADM nightmare. 155 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: I'm not willing to engage with. 156 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: We always get a lot of questions whenever we share 157 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: on our stories photos of the saving tax. So we 158 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: have four different saving tacks one thousand, two thousand, five hundred, 159 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: five thousand, and ten thousand. They are available on our website. 160 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: If you go to Shoes on the Money dot com 161 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: dot a you and click on freebies and there's those 162 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: and a bunch of other cool resources you can check out. 163 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: Nikki says money win. Her shares went up. Love that, 164 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: which is very cool. 165 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: That is a money win as always, but we also 166 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: need to normalize them going up and down over their 167 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: life cycle. But at the same time, share going up. 168 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: Great money win. We can celebrate. We can celebrate each 169 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: other kind of win. I am here for. 170 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: Tessa says money win. This week was finding three hundred 171 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: ninety nine dollar pants that she's been obsessing over for 172 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: weeks in an op sharp water in her size for 173 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: twelve dollars. 174 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: Oh, that is it. That is a very good money whin. 175 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: That never happened. 176 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: Four hundred dollar pants for twelve bucks. You weren't even 177 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: going to get it for that on sale? 178 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: She manifested it. 179 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, she probably she did. 180 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: She was probably like dear Jess playing on side of 181 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: her bed to. 182 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 4: God a Facebook. 183 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so today we're praying to the god of Facebook. 184 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: Jess would really like a crystal please mark sucker Bird. 185 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: We flip this for a second. What kind of person 186 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: buys new season four hundred dollar pants? And then it's 187 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: just like, ah, I just sent them to the op shop, 188 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: Like who are you? Can I have your money diary 189 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 2: because you're throwing money away. 190 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: I don't want your money diary. I just want your money. 191 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: You obviously have enough of it. 192 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: I want to hear it. I want all the pervy details, 193 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: like how can you afford to put for her undred 194 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: dollar pants in the opshop bin? Like what? Like? I 195 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: know it's good and it goes to charity, but like 196 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: you really could have sold them on Facebook marketplace for 197 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: half the price and donated it to charity together. 198 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: You donated that anyway? 199 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly twelve dollars. They didn't know what they had. 200 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 3: I know. Another one for Jess. Nicholas says, I've been 201 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: looking at designer bags just boil myself around four thousand dollars, 202 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 3: which was definitely out of my budget, but found a 203 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: Vesachi Couture bag on deep Hop which retails for three 204 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: forty and got it for one fifty. Why gosh, that's 205 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 3: so pretty decent. 206 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: And that is a really good compromise as well. I 207 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: mean a four thousand dollars handbag. I'm not gonna argue 208 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: with you if that is in line with your values 209 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: and you go, no, v, that's exactly what I want. Nope, 210 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: I want you to get that, and I want you 211 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: to be really happy with it. But if you're like, oh, 212 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: it's just because they want a really nice handbag, she 213 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: went and found something that was within her budget and 214 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: within her values, and I love that. I want to 215 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: see a picture of the bag, though, oh, I'll ask 216 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: want to see a picture of the bag. 217 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: Says that she didn't realize that Dodo were charging her twice. 218 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: They didn't cancel an account when she moved in January, 219 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 3: and they said too bad, so sad. She argued with them. 220 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: They offered half back. She said, no, I have a 221 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: right to a full refund because the other Internet I 222 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: couldn't even access it. I've only been accessing one Internet. 223 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: And they finally gave in. They agreed to a full refund, 224 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: so six hundred and seventy five dollars back in her 225 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: pocket and seventy five dollars less per month going forward. 226 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 4: But no, the audacity of that company to say, hey, 227 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: where really sorry week of our mistake. Yeah, to say, hey, 228 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 4: we're really sorry that we stuffed up. You're just going 229 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: to have to deal with that that No, no, no, 230 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: no no. I am so glad that she did the 231 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 4: right thing. She got her Karen on. Sometimes it's okay 232 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 4: because she absolutely deserved that money back. It would be 233 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: unacceptable for them to try and do otherwise. 234 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: Don't know, your service is not so nice. I want 235 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: to pay twice hard. 236 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: No, it's very funny. 237 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: Funny, I'm funny, guys. 238 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: Congratulations else, let's. 239 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: Move on before anybody notices. 240 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: All right, Piper says, I've been searching for ages for 241 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: a cute white sneaker that won't cost an armor a leg, 242 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: you know that, uh huh. Went into Target to buy 243 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: a budget pair and actually found a feeler pair with 244 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: a clear and sticker of twenty five dollars down from sixty. 245 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: Flicked the tag over, it was further discounted to seventeen 246 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: dollars so far money Win took them to the cash 247 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: register and they were eleven dollars. So she actually ended 248 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: up saving forty eight dollars and got a trainy pair 249 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: of sneaks. 250 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: Oh how cute. I love that. I love that she 251 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 2: was trying to do the right thing and was rewarded 252 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: for it. 253 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: Uh huh, it's the manifestation, it is. 254 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 4: And white sneaks go with everything they do, go with everything. 255 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: They elevate every single look. I will fight anybody that 256 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: disagrees with me. 257 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 2: Follow along for Tony sashion Tip said she's on the 258 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: money aus. 259 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: And the very last one last, Adriana says, my loose 260 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: leaf spinach wouldn't register on the scales at Woollies because 261 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: it wasn't heavy enough, So the attendant said, just take it. 262 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 2: I love when people do that. It's not even your 263 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: money to make that decision on it. 264 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: But there way, I can't deal with that. 265 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: Just got Tony. You used to work in a deli? 266 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: Did you ever do stuff like that? No? 267 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 3: I was the annoying person that was like, I will 268 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: weigh that before I give it to your child. You 269 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: have to pay for it. You can't have it for free. 270 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. So you wouldn't even give kids free 271 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: twiggy sticks. 272 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: No, nothing, I would weigh it and give them a 273 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: sticker and make them pay for it. I'm sorry, I 274 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,359 Speaker 3: like big corporating. 275 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 2: Sorry Wallies, Tony was an employee you really should have 276 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: kept hold of. 277 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 3: I was saving the money. 278 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah you were, You weren't. Would you do it again? 279 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: One hundred percent? 280 00:12:52,040 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: That's disappointing. All right, Tony and Jess we are back, 281 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: and a couple of weeks ago we did an episode 282 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: on how to start saving and investing for kids and 283 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: teaching them the way, and an article came out on 284 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: news dot com dot Au. Not to blow my own trumpet, 285 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: but I had an article come out on news dot 286 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: com dot. 287 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: Au this week. Hang on, was this just an excuse 288 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: for you to bring up an article about yourself? You 289 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 3: don't really have any information? 290 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I just wanted to talk about myself again. 291 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: But it actually wasn't my article that I wanted to 292 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: talk about. It was an article from somebody called Sarah Sharples, 293 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: who if she wants to work for us and do 294 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: some copywriting, please slide it into my DMS because I 295 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: did enjoy this article. But it was about some research 296 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: behind how many kids in Australia are actually investing already, 297 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: and I was super surprised at the statistics and would 298 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: love to know what you guys think, because I was 299 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: shocked and thought it would be more. But I don't 300 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: know what you guys think. So essentially, a survey was 301 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: done to see how many kids are investing and it 302 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: found that seven percent of children under the age of 303 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: twelve shared trading account in their name, and that is 304 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: the equivalent of about two hundred and seventy thousand Australian 305 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: kids who were investing in the stock market. 306 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 4: That's you said you thought. 307 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: It would be more. 308 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 4: That sounds like heaps. 309 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: I thought it would be more, would be way less. 310 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with Tony, So. 311 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: I thought it would be more in terms of numbers, 312 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: maybe because I know nothing about how to calculate populations. 313 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: Seven percent feels right, but two hundred and seventy thousand 314 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: kids just it felt like there would be more kids. 315 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: But when you tell me it's that's actually seven percent 316 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: of kids under twelve, I'm like, oh, okay, Like that's 317 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: that's pretty close to ten percent. We could round that up. 318 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: Financial adviser would absolutely round up. 319 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: So is that parents opening it for children and investing 320 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: on their behalf or is that kids being like not 321 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: having put this into the ass. 322 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: That you do need a guardian to actually do that. 323 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: It is kids who have an account in their name, 324 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: not necessarily they're whacking out their iPhone and do some 325 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: trades like're on the stocks. Yeah no, no, no, we're 326 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: not making share trades at two. But it was also 327 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: really interesting because obviously seven percent, I think is a 328 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: lot of kids under the age of twelve investing. But 329 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: the same survey found that two percent of kids under 330 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: twelve had a cryptocurrency account in their name. Really, two 331 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: percent of kids under twelve doing crypto. This is a 332 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: slippery slope moment. 333 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 3: Do you think it's because it's in vogue at the moment, 334 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: So their mum or dad have been like, yeah, we 335 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: saw it online, we bought some, will pop some in 336 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: the kid's name as well, like. 337 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: It must be I just didn't think. And I guess 338 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: as a financial advisor who doesn't like crypto, and I'm 339 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: happy to say that crypto to me is not something 340 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: that is long term. So I am genuinely surprised to 341 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: think that parents are like, oh, this is such a 342 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: good long term investment, Whereas you know, a diversified ETF 343 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: exposing you to the top two hundred companies in Australia 344 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: to me, would be a little bit more akin to 345 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: longevity I suppose over the long term, especially if you're investing. 346 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: But I think that two percent of kids investing in crypto, 347 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: like it's along the right track. But it makes me 348 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: wonder how many parents are opening this and what type 349 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: of parents are opening this, and it makes me dive 350 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: into the idea around you know how I always talk 351 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: about risk profile and like what that actually means, because 352 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: recently I've been having a lot of chats about crypto 353 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: and who owns it and what's going on with a 354 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: number of our community members because I'm trying to just 355 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: like learn a bit more about what you guys really 356 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: want me to talk about and how to educate in 357 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: a I guess, more relatable way. And I was super 358 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: surprised to find that there are a number of people 359 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: in our community who were happy to buy crypto or 360 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: some kind of cryptocurrency, but we're not happy to invest 361 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: on the Australian share market sure, And I'm always taken 362 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: aback by that because as an ADVISORL like my base 363 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: is risk and whether you're willing to take on risk, 364 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: and for me, risk is mitigated with time. There's a 365 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: really great chart by Vanguard that shows you the performance 366 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: of all asset classes in Australia over time and how 367 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: they've performed. And if you look at that chart, it 368 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: actually shows you that over thirty year periods or even 369 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: over ten year periods, it's the same. Nobody's ever lost 370 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: money if they stay invested for the long term. So 371 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: for me, that's a pretty like that's pretty solid evidence. 372 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: That's pretty solid past performance. And as a financial advisor, 373 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: I should say past performance is not a reliable predict 374 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: or a future performance Tony, but it's something where I'm like, well, 375 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: that's tried and true. Like, you know, if you're investing 376 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 2: for thirty plus years, which I'm assuming you would be 377 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: doing and would have that intention when you're investing for kids, 378 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: crypto hasn't even existed for that long, and we've never 379 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 2: been able to say there's a certain period of time 380 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: that you can invest in crypto and not lose money. 381 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: So for me, I'm like, wow, like why are you 382 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: thinking this way? Like where is this come from? So 383 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: I guess I've got some more research to do. Around money, mindset, 384 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 2: and emotional investing because so many people were willing to 385 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: invest in crypto but not the stock market. But the 386 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: stock market over time has been proven but crypto hasn't. 387 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: So I feel a little bit like this plays into 388 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: herd mentality, which I actually talk a lot about with 389 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: my clients, is that crypto has been talked about in 390 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: abundance right all over the media. Our friends are talking 391 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 2: about it. I have no doubt you guys have friends 392 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: who have been like, oh I bought bitcoin or I 393 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: bought dogecoin, like they've done something with crypto. So you 394 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 2: kind of get interested and you lose that idea of 395 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: what risk actually means because the concept has been so 396 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 2: normalized that you're like, oh, it's fine, my friends are 397 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 2: doing it, no problems. 398 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: I think as well, everybody is interested in a get 399 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 3: rich quick scheme and we. 400 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: Should start MLM. 401 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: Honestly, you only ever hear the winners, right, Yeah, And 402 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: so you heard everybody saying, oh, I bought bitcoin or 403 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 3: I had some and then I sold it for fifty 404 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: thousand dollars, and everyone's like, oh, well, I'm gonna buy 405 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: it now because I want fifty thousand dollars and then 406 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: all like that's what takes off. And we were just 407 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 3: talking before we started recording about the impact that like 408 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: the media can have over what stocks do, and especially 409 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies because they're so in vogue and 410 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 3: it's been in vogue for you know, the past five 411 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: or six years. That's what people are interested. 412 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: Just find it so pervy, I suppose why they are 413 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 2: trusting the purchase of that asset but won't go and 414 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: invest in the share market or you know, download our friends' 415 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: shares is and start picking things that they feel passionate about. 416 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 2: They're like, that's too much. But crypto was easy, even 417 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 2: though it's a bigger hurdle in something for me as 418 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: an advisor that is far harder to swallow. And Yeah, 419 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: what you're talking about, Tony is the conversation we're having 420 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: before this episode. And I was telling you guys about 421 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: how there's actually been a crypto plunge in the last 422 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: week or so because Bitcoin and ethereum, that both of 423 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: their prices have absolutely gone through the floor because Beijing 424 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: a shoot US statement that essentially said that it will 425 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: be the end of cryptocurrencies in China because they don't 426 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: want them in China and you go, oh, like that decision. Obviously, 427 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: bitcoin is international, and China is one country, obviously an 428 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: incredibly impactful one when it comes to the economy, but 429 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 2: you look at it and you go, oh, them making 430 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: that decision has plunged it through the floor. Whereas if 431 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: the same thing had happened in Australia and a decision 432 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: was made about a stock, the same type of response 433 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: wouldn't have happened. So it just it's just real pervy 434 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: and really interesting and I like talking about this stuff, 435 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: so thank you for coming to my TED talk. 436 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it'll be interesting to see the impacts 437 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: of it over a longer period as well. Just another 438 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: really interesting point, the environmental impacts of cryptocurrency over the 439 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: long term as well, like the amount of energy needed 440 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: to mind tomord. Actually, yeah, is really interesting and we 441 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 3: won't go into it because we. 442 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: Can do a whole episode Tony on bitcoin or on 443 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: crypto and actually seeks not necessarily how you buy it, 444 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: but like bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are mined and people set 445 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: up these elaborate computer systems to mind these and if 446 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: you are interested in environment and ethical investing, there's a 447 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: lot of conversation to have there. 448 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: It's very unethical in terms of the environmental impacts. 449 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 4: Speaking of like fun marketing update type things is did 450 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: anybody see that on Thursday Oliplex went onto the market. 451 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: Yes, they had their very first IPO, which, as a 452 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: very keen hair eccentric person, very happy with it. I 453 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 2: love my Oliplex and I love that I now own 454 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: shares in it. 455 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 4: I was so excited when it went up because I 456 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 4: also am like a user of it and I love it, 457 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: and I feel like that's always a fun thing, you know, 458 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 4: to sometimes purchase shares in a product that you actually 459 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 4: really enjoy. But there's also a really interesting like background 460 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 4: on it because Oliplex as a company has actually seen 461 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 4: like a lot of really great successes over the past 462 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 4: few years. And I will start this off by saying 463 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 4: this is not advice. I am not saying about by oliplex. 464 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 4: We don't do that here. 465 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: But it was like we did by Oliplex here though, 466 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: But we are talking about the performance of a company 467 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: because it's really important. And do you know what, I'm 468 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: so excited, like I cannot like to preface this conversation. 469 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: I cannot believe Jess that you joined us last December, 470 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: had no idea how to invest, and now you're telling 471 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: me about the performance of a company because you have 472 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 2: selected one of their IPO assets to purchase, Like, what, 473 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: who are you? Look at that growth? 474 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 4: We love some character developments. So they actually had ninety 475 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: percent net sales growth from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty, 476 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 4: which is ninety percent is astronomical to me. 477 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: At least soft hair. 478 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 4: That is some luscious hair. But in addition to that, 479 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 4: there's also some really great things, like I know that 480 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 4: they're the number one haircare brand. It's Sophora. 481 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: They are. They also have a twenty twenty adjusted gross 482 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: margin of eighty two percent, which is massive, which I 483 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: think it's really important to look at stuff like that. 484 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 2: And I know that I guess we're being a little 485 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: bit more technical on shares, and over the next couple 486 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: of months, hopefully I can get a little bit more 487 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 2: technical on shares and what that actually means. Because oliplex 488 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: is cool because I use it, but also it's cool 489 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: because like looking into a company and understanding why you're 490 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: purchasing it is even cooler, like and I know a 491 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, maybe Jess, you would be like, oh, 492 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: it'd be cool to own shares in a haircare company 493 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: that I use, Whereas now you're like, okay, cool. So 494 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: I looked at that and your report and this is 495 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: what I've learned, and that's literally what you're spitting back 496 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: at us, and that's just real cool. 497 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 4: It's really fun and even just on like a less 498 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 4: technical I suppose measurement, not that you shouldn't be using 499 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 4: technical measurements, but if you go through their Instagram and 500 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 4: go to their tagged photos, they're tagged in a photo 501 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 4: literally like once an hour at a minimum, often like 502 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 4: several times more than that, Like so crazy, and I 503 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: just a fun, little cool thing I thought was really 504 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 4: interesting because it's something that I was like, oh, like 505 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 4: that's something that I want to purchase shares in, and yeah, 506 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 4: we'd love to see it. 507 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: I'm really excited that you now know what you're talking 508 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 2: about and what you're looking for, and that it's not 509 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 2: just personal interest. It's like, Okay, I've got a personal interest, 510 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 2: but I know what i'm looking for. Or I'm really 511 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 2: impressed with their numbers and this is why I'm making 512 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: that decision, and that's what I want to see from 513 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: our community because I see you know, back to what 514 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: we're talking about before with crypto, a lot of people 515 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 2: will tell you that they bought crypto because they're friended 516 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: or someone told them it was really good, whereas you 517 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: actually need to do your own research on whatever it is. 518 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: And it might not just be Oliplex, it could be 519 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: any business. But I want you to know why you're 520 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: buying a certain asset class, whether it is BHP, whether 521 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: it is Woolies or Cohal's, Like, why are you choosing 522 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 2: these assets in particular, not just oh I heard they 523 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: were good to. 524 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 3: Buy so or I know the name exactly. 525 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: And the reason for that, obviously is because of performance 526 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: and obviously because we want to be comfortable with what 527 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: we're purchasing. But furthering that, there are going to be 528 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: times where Olaplex's share price decreases and you'll look at 529 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: your portfolio Jess, and you'll be a little bit behind 530 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: from where you started. You go, oh damn, But deep 531 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: down you know why you still hold them because you've 532 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: already valued that company to yourself. You're already like yep, 533 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 2: that you're not. Their share price might be down, but 534 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: their turnover is good, their business is good. They are 535 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: the number one in their category. They are this, they 536 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: are that, they are the other, and to you, you're go, yeah, 537 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: I say that the share price is down, but I'm 538 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: not worried about that because I have a basis for 539 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: investment as opposed to oh I bought it because my 540 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: friend did. Now it's off, and oh I don't like. 541 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: That, so and I might as well sell it exactly. 542 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 2: So we're making educated decisions based on our interests, but 543 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: also really validating those in addition. And I think that 544 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 2: that's a really good example of that, and I'm grateful 545 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: you brought it up, Jessica. 546 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 4: We love an educated queen. 547 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: We do. Did you just call yourself an educated queen? Tony? 548 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 3: Stand by it? 549 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: I definitely do too. 550 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: Also, Guys, I know that we're running out of time, 551 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: but I did really want to mention something else that's 552 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 3: gone off in our group this week and off. 553 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 2: In my emails. Tony, I have been contacted a number 554 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: of times over what you're about to say. 555 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: So Spaceship, which for anybody that doesn't know, is a 556 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 3: micro investing platform in Australia, have just introduced monthly fees, 557 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: so it went from being free and now on portfolios 558 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: with balances over one hundred dollars, it's two dollars fifty 559 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 3: a month or thirty dollars a year. 560 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, from the start of November, so from the first 561 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 2: of November twenty twenty one, they're introducing fees, which is 562 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: totally fine. And you know what I think I said, 563 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: and I don't I'm not willing to go through the content. 564 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 2: I think I said on a podcast once that I 565 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: guarantee that Spaceship's free investing won't last because when you're 566 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: a brand, you're investing platform, the point is getting you 567 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: guys on the platform, and you've got to have a 568 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: really good carrot on a really good stick for people 569 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 2: to jump on board, especially when it comes to investing. 570 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: That now they're introducing a fee that I think is 571 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: you know, it's a nominal fee. It's going to make 572 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: it's going to mean that they can turn a profit 573 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: and then they can actually keep investing in the business. 574 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 2: And I think it's really good, but it is something 575 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: that you need to consider because if you only have 576 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars on the platform, two dollars fifty, that's 577 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 2: so much money to be paying your investment fees. So 578 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: you really need to think hard about whether that is 579 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: worth it or not. And I've said before as well, 580 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: I adore micro investing platforms because they go beyond just investing. Right, So, Tony, 581 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: even if you only had a couple of one hundred 582 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: dollars on Spaceship, I still think that fee is potentially 583 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 2: worth it because you are investing, you're able to actually 584 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 2: follow the markets, and you're getting financial education through that 585 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: platform as well. You're getting exposure to the market without 586 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: putting up your life savings. Right, So I think we 587 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: need to quantify what this fee means in addition, not 588 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: go oh my gosh, I can't believe they're introducing it, 589 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: but more like, oh great, Like how cool is it 590 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: that these businesses at a point where it can start 591 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 2: turning a profit from their customers and they can actually start, 592 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 2: you know, providing that value. And I am an investor 593 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: on Spaceship, as I am on Rays and as I 594 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 2: am on Charesi's and also Superhero like I have them 595 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 2: all because I want to make sure that I'm using 596 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: all the platforms that everyone in our community is talking about, 597 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: because how silly would that be if I wasn't. But 598 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: it's one of those things where I'm like, oh, cool, 599 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: Like they are charging a fee, but that's worth it. 600 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: So for me, Yeah, it's interesting because a lot of 601 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: people are blowing up about, you know, being a bit 602 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: frustrated that there's now fees on their free investing platform. 603 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: But like, we got a pretty good run of free 604 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: investing for a while from these guys, Like and two 605 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: dollars fifty to invest at the end of the day, 606 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: that's pretty good. It's also tax deductible, my friends. 607 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 3: Oh okay, they put that in the fine print, don't they. 608 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: I don't even know if I mentioned it. But at 609 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's a cost of investing 610 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: and therefore it's a taxable deduction. So definitely mentioned that 611 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: one to your accountant guys come June thirty next year. 612 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: And the thing is, like, the really cool thing about 613 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 4: living right now is that there are so many great 614 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 4: platforms out there. And if that two dollars fifty is 615 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 4: something that's really taxing, if you have a lower amount, 616 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: or if it's just money that you don't want to spend, 617 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: have a look at other platforms. Do you research Different 618 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 4: platforms have different fees and different offerings and That's why 619 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 4: we talk about so many different ones here on the 620 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 4: show is because you know there's no one size fits all. 621 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 4: So if that fee is something chasing, you don't be 622 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 4: afraid to have a look and maybe go elsewhere if 623 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: that's what suits your needs. 624 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely and just actually de bounce off that. We've been 625 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: asked in the community before, like oh, why are you 626 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: talking about Spaceship and shares and six Park And that's 627 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: the reason because they are all good investment platforms that 628 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: we have vetted. I like, we're vetted as a team, 629 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: I've vetted as a financial advisor, and I go, okay, cool, 630 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: someone picks that it's not a bad option. It is 631 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: a really good option. And obviously they're all friends of 632 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: the show, but they all bring different things to them table. 633 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 2: They all have access to different things. And that's what 634 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: we say when we say do your research. It's not 635 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: just go with someone who's sponsoring the show. It's go 636 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: and look at what they've got on offer. And I 637 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: mean the benefit of knowing it's come from the Shees 638 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: on the Money community is that we're vetted at and 639 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: we would personally be comfortable investing in that if that 640 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: was something that we wanted to do, but I think 641 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 2: it's really important to actually just step back and go, yeah, okay, 642 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: like what do I want out of this? And maybe 643 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: before even looking at platforms, go what am I trying 644 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: to achieve? This is this long term? Do I want 645 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: some advice associated with it? In which case you're probably 646 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: going to go down a six park route. Whereas if 647 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: you don't want advice and you just want to do 648 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: DIY stuff like maybe a sharesis or a superhero is 649 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: something that you're going to look at because you can 650 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: buy individual shares, or if you just want like an 651 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: ETA for like a fund that you put money into, 652 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: maybe a raiser a spaceship is more akin to what 653 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: you're after. So there is different things for different people. 654 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: But again there's just not one size fits all. Unfortunately, 655 00:30:59,160 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: be cool if they're well. 656 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 4: People are so different though, like it's never gonna happen, 657 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 4: It's not possible, So. 658 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: I just mitigate that risk by having them all jess, 659 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: So yeah. 660 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 4: I win. 661 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: Anyway with that. E As always, I think that is 662 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: all we have time for, guys. So just before we 663 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: head off, we'd like to acknowledge and pay respect to 664 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 2: Australia's Aboriginal and torrest Rate islander peoples. 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