WEBVTT - Gout Gout – Out Out? 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:02.040 Here at two Good Sports. 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:04.240 We would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.240 land on which we record this podcast. There were innerie people. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:15.880 This land was never seated, always was always will be. Hello, Hi, 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:19.640 how are you welcome to do good sports? Sports news 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:21.000 sold differently? I'm Georgie. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:22.919 He's still not used to you being here and me 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.680 not having to do the intro. It's a beautiful world. 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.920 Look, no hair, I know, I know, but look, it's 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.240 actually been quite a full on week for me, joby 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:33.320 because there's been a lot of sports news. I'm not 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.280 match fit and I've been trying to like put everything 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.000 into this brain which is struggling able to catch up. Yeah, 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.199 and I'm like, whoa, there's so much. I've enjoyed it thoroughly, 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:44.400 but there's a lot of things happening. 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:46.320 What was the headline for you? What was your biggest 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:47.360 thing that you watched during the week. 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:51.160 Biggest thing was watching the Brisbane Broncos absolutely implode once again. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.040 But other than that, still gift, still gift had. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.880 To be had to everyone's favorite race that we become 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:58.560 experts in handicaps sprinting. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:03.000 Guilty see I am now I think the all knowing 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:04.959 factor when it comes to the store gift and I 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:05.880 have a lot of thoughts. 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.120 We do have a lot of thoughts, and namely the 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.160 fact that the headlines in Goutgut and Lackie Kennedy didn't 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.479 even make the men's final, but Brerizzo, what a performance 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.200 it was from her. So the best example of when 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:21.200 handicapping goes right, the best example of when handicapping goes wrong. 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.480 And somewhere in the middle we land in Australia's richest 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:25.080 foot trace. 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.319 That's right, that's right, and there's so much, there's so 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:28.080 much to discuss. 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:29.000 It is a spectacle. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.160 But before we do that, you know what's time for 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:32.520 Georgie good sport? 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:33.479 Good sport. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:37.480 The Australian Swimming Championships are happy happening currently. And I 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.440 mean I may have mentioned on this podcast one or 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.920 two times that I consider myself to be an honorary Dolphin. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.720 On did you befriend Bronchie Campbell? 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:45.800 I did that. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:47.360 I was like as soon as I saw I was like, 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:52.440 we are the same, like nos, like here we go. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.880 Game recognizes game. She's gonna be like, have I seen 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.720 you at a junior carnival somewhere? You look like you 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.840 could swim instead. She said, Hi, my name's Bronzie. I 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:04.080 think that's where we were. 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.520 You know, that was the conversation that I had when 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.680 that eventually goes to where do I have footage of 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.960 Robert Mills attempting to race Bronti Campbell? 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:14.280 Yeah? I do, I do. 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:16.679 Yep, yep, yep. 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.240 That's just a little spoiler. Bronti was taking on everyone 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:22.360 in the amazing race. And look, but there was a 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.160 water leg sometime. There was water somewhere. I can't tell 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.560 you where, but there was water somewhere that we could 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.079 compete against an Olympic. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:29.880 Why didn't you nominate? 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.280 Well, because I didn't need to know that. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.440 You know, game recognizes game jelly, So obviously I don't 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.080 need to compete against Bronti. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.040 I know, because you know, I know I doesn't know. 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.520 Robert, you get in this television. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.040 That's crazy, Robert so Yes. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.040 Continuing on that theme with the Championships happening right now, 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:51.960 just two special shout outs. One to a friend of 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.440 the pot, Alexa O'Leary. We love her so much. She's 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:59.720 smashed record and she's just the delight for those of 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.880 you who may not remember, she's the incredible para swimmer 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.280 who did incredible things at the Paralympics. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:07.960 I think she won how many goals did she win? 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:08.399 A lot? 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:12.360 And she's the leading swimmer in her field and she 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.040 was that one had that wonderful moment in the qualification 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.680 rounds where she goes, I'm just so proud of myself. 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.960 And this is someone who was a star triathlete and 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.000 then had a terrible accident on a bike and left 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.920 her with some physical impairments as well as mental impairments. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.480 But you would not know. And her dad crying in 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.359 the crowd about the fact that they's been told to 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.239 say goodbye to her and then he's watching her qualify 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:34.440 for a Paralympics. 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:37.240 It's it's just the best. So it's great love her. 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.960 She's still informed. She unlike me, has managed to maintain 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.560 her fitness over the course of many, many years, so 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.560 she is doing alexa things. Also, big shout out because 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.840 Cam McAvoy, the professor, one of my faves, fresh off 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.360 his gold medal in the Olympics in the fifty meter freestyle, 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.600 he's absolutely smashed the fifteen meter freestyle earlier on in 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.480 this meet, and he has clocked a time of twenty 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.160 one point four to eight, which is just zero point 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.160 zero five off the fastest time in the world this year. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.360 He's only recently got back into the pool. And for 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.440 those who may not remember, he does that kind of 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:13.200 he's one that trains back. Yes, that's stripped back to 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.880 win more and it sounds great and it's working. 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:17.719 It just keeps on working for him and. 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.599 Kaylee McEwan as well. The fastest time that we've seen 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:20.960 this year. 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.440 Yes, standard, our Dolphins just continue to do incredible things. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.680 Those obviously good sports, good sports. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.440 It feels very Olympic today. Not to quote cool runnings, 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.840 but my good sport bad sport. I'm gonna leave it 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.320 to you, George, to decide if this is a good 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:35.520 sport or a bad sort. 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:36.680 I love passing judgment. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.760 Yes, yes, what are you for? You got to your 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.599 school carnival to watch your kid and they are so 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.039 pair of participation, and part of you is like, look, 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.160 it was already hard enough to get here and make 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.960 sure the kids had their shoes. But sure, I'll run 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.440 in one hundred meter. You line up, you'll look to 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.720 your left, you look to your right, and on your right. 0:04:56.120 --> 0:05:01.640 His three time Olympic champion, ten time old champion Shelley 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.359 Anne Fraser Brice, and you just think this isn't where 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:10.320 I parked my car because the Jamaican superstar and it's 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.640 almost like I need to put some more supers ahead 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.000 of that. We all recognize her as the pint sized, 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:22.080 wig wearing Jamaican phenomenon in sprinting. Lined up for a 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.200 son's parent one hundred meter run and you have to 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.440 see this footage because it's not so much a race 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.000 as a drone trying to keep her in the shot 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:36.039 with the other parents. It was just the most phenomenal, brutal, 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.360 no mercy. She hits the full pace and I love 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.359 this quote where she goes, well, they haven't banned me yet, 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.359 so I'm still gonna line up is where a sun 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.680 zion And again the fact that she went away, had 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.680 a kid and then has still returned to be at 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.880 Olympic level. When we saw her in Paris and then 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.840 she had that weird incidence where she missed. 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.160 The bus so odd, it was very it was very, 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.640 very very confusing. Good to see though she's taking it 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.599 out on just regular parents. 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:06.600 He's a good sport or a bad sports She's very 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:07.320 good at sport. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:11.120 But come on, Shelly, Oh oh, I'm thinking, look for 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.080 me good sport. If I was one of the parents, 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.120 I'm like, come on, just you need to have like 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.679 talk about handicap racing. Start in the next country, Start 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.120 in the next country, and then begin the run and 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:23.160 I will start at the same time. 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.400 When you watch the footage, and I'm for you to 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.800 google it. She could run on one leg, she could 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.280 have she could have done the triple jump over the 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:35.160 one hundred and still absolutely annihilated. I just I watched 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:36.560 it and I was like, oh, to be that good 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:41.239 at anything and be like here at a school carnival. 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.040 I just want to know what her son like, Zion, 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.279 what's he thinking? There? Is he thinking, go Mama is thinking? 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.599 Oh mom, so embarrassing. 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.960 The great thing is she'd done it previously and smoked them. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.880 That's the only reason why someone thought we better get 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.560 a drone. We better get a drone to get that 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.080 footage of the hang on. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.560 I mean, whether or not it was good sport bad sport, 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.159 I want to know whether you would do that, like 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.080 if you were Shelleyanne Fraser Price, There's no way that 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.160 Gelmy is not being like I am putting all the 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:14.800 burners on and smoking you all. 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.680 Georgie in the duo that is, which of the two 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.679 parents of my children is being nominated the ex athlete, 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.960 Sorry Kate head on in, but I am going to 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:31.040 be the psycho screaming from the line of because I 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.200 like push everyone. I know him, that parent, I know 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:38.280 him that parent, low Ribbons. Only this I like and 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.840 why do we want no laugh? 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.880 Look for someone who has been competing in a race 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.760 most recently, and I've learned things about myself, which is 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:52.280 number one that I'm what you may call unattractively competitive, 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.200 and I. 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.840 Think what you may or what Robert told you after. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.640 Yeah it could be they could have come up. Yeah, 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:02.320 they could have come up. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.560 So I feel that both you and I we would 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.720 just be like doing the old Lizzello's Queen Lee's, which 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:10.720 is elbows at the ready, take your marks, elbows out go. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.480 I just don't have the skills to back up how 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:15.960 competitive I am in most things. 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:17.240 No same here. 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.600 That's where I'm like, I'm desperate to win, but I 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:21.400 don't want to train. 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.720 Oh well, Shelly and Fraser Price, well done, well done, 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:25.840 are doing it for us. 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.800 We will post the footage. We'll find it on social 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.800 because it is just it's phenomenal. It brought me so 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.240 much joy, just about as much joy as Alexilary. So 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.599 that were they was some two good sports. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:38.959 There, most amazing, most amazing. 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.440 Anyway, should we continue talking about sprinting? 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.680 Yes, yes, we definitely should We definitely sure. 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:58.079 Let's getting too our main chat now. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.480 Jell me on my men travels to various desinations that 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.920 I cannot disclose. Remember I said there was one sporting 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.440 story really that was able to kind of get my 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:11.400 grab my attention and made it overseas, and that was Gout, 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.240 Gout v Locky Kennedy. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:14.280 And I tell you what. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:15.840 When the store gift came up and they were going 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.640 to be competing, I was like, Yes, this is amazing. 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.360 The entirety of the country, not just Abby jellmy cares 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:22.280 about track and field. 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:24.480 This is gonna be amazing. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.160 Wow. And they were just coming off nationals where they 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.760 weren't competing together because they're not in the same age division. 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.600 So we've seen them do so well in Perth, we've 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.719 seen them race against each other at the Mury Plant me. 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:38.160 But this the Stall Gift on over one hundred and twenty, 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.559 which is going to favor Gout. Yes, because he's over 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.040 a longer distance. He seems to really wind up. Where's 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.640 Locky Burst out of the blox? Who's going to win. 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:46.920 The ultimate rivalry? 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.840 We are going to have a deciding race and we 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:51.080 will know once and. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.120 For all who is the fastest man and we get 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.800 to watch it eating chocolate. Yes, it always happens over 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:01.640 the Easter weekend, so this is the perfect And also 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:07.720 it's Bruce mcaveany, it's Tamsa Manu, It's Jason Richardson, who 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.680 we love, who's a formal winner doing the boundary. It's 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:15.160 just Dave Colbert. This feels to me like an Australian Olympics. 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:16.920 It is an Australian Olympics. 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:21.160 And I was so excited to follow every single second 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.240 of this day and this event unfold and listeners. 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:27.400 If you're not someone who like us, was weirdly into 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:28.959 this foot race, let me give you a bit of 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.200 a context. The store Gift used to be called the 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:35.079 Easter Gift and has been run every year except for 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:39.200 five since eighteen seventy eight, so it has only been 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.200 stopped by a couple of world Wars and a little 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.400 thing got COVID. But it is one of the most 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.719 prize sporting events in the country, and it's one of 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.880 those things that if you are a sprinter, you really 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.719 deeply care about who wins the stall, and once you're 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:55.440 a winner, you're up in lights forever. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:55.840 Yes. 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.360 Yes, it's something that I remember covering as a young 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.360 journal when I just started, and I remember thinking, now, 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:04.920 how much of like you know, are people aware of this? 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:06.520 Is it just because I work in this field and 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.320 I followed this race. I remember when it came to 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.760 the finals and stall gift day every single time in 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.960 the newsroom, and it would be everyone just crowds around 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.480 your desk, yes, because they want to see what's going 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.680 on and what's happening. It's the fifteen seconds, let's say, 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:23.520 where everyone cares about running. 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:29.240 It feels decidedly amateur because it is. It's amateur athletes 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.920 taking on professionals. So you do have these athletes that 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:33.760 you would have seen at the Olympics that are our 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.120 national champions that sometimes and it's also an invitational they 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.679 sometimes have athletes come from all around the world to compete, 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:44.280 but it's on grass as opposed to a synthetic surface, 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.559 which I've heard it described as if you're going to 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.079 put like ten units of energy in Usually, if you're 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.080 on a synthetic track, you might get eight out in 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.240 terms of bounce. Oh, whereas if you're on this. 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:56.480 You lost me with the science. 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.640 I was like, what, well, I've heard Jason Richardson describe 0:11:58.640 --> 0:11:59.840 it this way, so it must be true. But then 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:02.040 if if you put that much energy into grass, anyone 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.480 who runs on grass will tell you don't bounce back up. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.080 I don't bounce on anything. But yes, yes, the grass. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.640 I find it a completely different technique where you sort 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.480 of instead of putting pushing off, you need to sort 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:13.560 of skim over the top. 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.800 Oh geez, okay, because it's different. 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:17.720 It's like running on sand ryes. Do you know that? 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.120 Most recently, sorry to go off on a little tangent here, 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.200 I figured out that I don't run properly. It will shock, 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:27.040 you know, because I don't think I push off on anything. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.120 So you're talking about this, I think I just run 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:29.680 up and down. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:30.959 Oh no, you've got to push off. 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.319 I don't. That's really hard. 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:34.679 Because then I was like, maybe I'll just run a 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.560 little bit trying to do. You're the balls of your 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.840 feet at least, yeah, I am, but just up and 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.959 down like it's like I'm essentially a pogo stick, is 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:42.520 what I've figured out. And I try, and then I 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.800 was like, okay, actually, hang on, let's propel myself forward 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.319 out of breath within three strides. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.000 I was like, well, but anyway, the stall gift is 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:49.440 not about me. 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:54.320 We digress, so we get to the stall gift that 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.800 is being headlined by these two now too. But let's 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.160 be honest. One seventeen year old superstar. 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:04.360 And household names like Gout gou Everyone knows goutgaut now 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:06.800 you know it's We've been talking about him for a. 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:07.760 Little while on this podcast. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.360 Well done as but like Gout Gout has just infiltrated 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.360 every single Australian home. 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:18.200 And then, in one of the great travesties and tragedies, 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:23.199 neither Gout nor Locky make the final I think. 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.480 I when the news came through that neither of them 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:29.160 had qualified for the final, I messaged you immediately. 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.040 That vitriol and I was so mad. 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:35.280 I was like, something has gone terribly wrong? What is 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:36.320 going on here? 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:40.319 Because as a spectacle as the centerpiece for the sport 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.559 as a centerpiece for the event. You want your strongest 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:47.360 runners in the final. And I understand handicap racing. I 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:48.320 understand that it is. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.960 Handicap racing is so difficult to get your head around, 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.040 and I've really tried, and there are still nuances in 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.960 terms of bonuses that the amateur athletes can get in 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.560 their times in qualifying for a race like the Stall 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.439 Gift that blow my mind a little bit. 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.640 But I understand that at its heart, you're essentially wanting 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.920 to see the amateurs up against the big names. I 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.440 get that, because you want it's almost like the Fa Cup, right, 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.840 It's the Fa Cup of running. But you still need 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.720 the best athletes there in order to create the best race. 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:19.200 You need them to be able to make it to 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.520 the final. But you're right, Jelmy, I have been going 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.520 through exactly when this happened. 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:23.960 I've been out. 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:28.760 I would call myself a semi expert on handicapping. That's 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:33.760 not noxymore, because you are right, there are a lot 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:38.800 of intricacies that the general running fan maybe just comes 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.800 into attention every time there's an Olympics or a stall 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.840 Gift would miss. When it comes to this yes, and 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.560 one of those being you're right. The amateur circuit for runners, 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:50.160 they can compete in different events and if they do well, 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.800 that means that they will have meters taken off the race. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.760 So if you start out with one hundred and twenty meters, 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.800 that is what the stall gifts sprint length is. And 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.120 if you take one hundred and twenty meters, yes, and 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.120 say you're starting at a nine point seventy five meters, 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:09.000 that means that you move your starting block forward nine 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.680 point seventy five, so you're only running one hundred and 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:17.320 ten point twenty five God mass, well done, Mas, that's 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.239 now your distance. So someone starting from scratch's running. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.280 The full hundred and twenty, which is what we saw 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.240 in the women's where Brie Rizzo came from the absolute 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.840 clouds and one from scratch. So we saw the example 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.800 in the women's of how handicapping can be done right 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.600 because her run was fantastic. We know that she made 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.640 a semifinal in the Olympics, so you had this Olympic 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.960 level runner up against amateurs, so they had to basically 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:42.800 put away you know what it can be likened to 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.320 horse racing, yes, where they do put different weights on 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.880 different horses to try to make it even in a 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.720 handicap So that's basically what they're doing here, but in 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:51.920 distance right. 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.640 Yes, I've heard that the goal for handicappers when it 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:59.320 comes to the men's race is that you're wanting everyone 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.480 to finish the same time and you're looking for a 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.360 time about twelve point two five seconds. 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.040 Yes, benk over one hundred and twenty and. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.760 So since then we have had Locki Kennedy's coach come 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.640 out and essentially say, look, I know that there's a 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:13.560 lot of outcry about this, but at the end of 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.720 the day, when you have a winner at John Evans, 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.560 this is his Olympics. Yes, this is what he's been 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.360 tapering for training for. This is his mecha. This what 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.240 he's dreamt of winning. You've got Lockie and Gout who 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.240 get paid very handsomely to be there, but they were 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.640 looking at nationals, so they're not tapering their training, they're 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:35.040 not specializing on these softer tracks in order to optimize 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.720 their performance over that distance. So it goes both. But 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.880 I'm with you in that it was on freeware TV. Yes, 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.080 it was another show piece for Australian Athletics that was 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:50.840 just for mine, you need to at least slightly ring 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.000 it just so that they get into the final. 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.920 Also, maybe just take into consideration the conditions. Like before 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.960 Gout and Lockie Kennedy raced, it was essentially a swim, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:05.000 it was trential, and also the handicap is based on 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.760 the runners too fast at times that season I believe 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.920 averaged out and that's where you at least start in 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:15.280 terms of how you handicap the full heat. Once again 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.280 track versus you know, the grass, and then you've got 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:19.040 the rain. 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.800 And amateurs and pros and it's slightly. 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.360 Uphill, yeah, slightly uphill, you're on a gradient, yeah yeah, 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.399 and upward gradient, so they're sprinting uphill. 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.960 Sorry, I'm if I'm Bree Rizzo and I'm looking at 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.439 the back of someone who's ten meters ahead of me 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.960 on a slight incline on a surface that I don't 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:38.960 usually run on. I'm like, I don't need to be 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.359 doing this, and I don't need to be doing this 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.639 on television. I'll give you the hot tip. Yes, probably 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:43.320 why I'm not nothing. 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.400 I I know, I know, but I think that there 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:49.040 is an argument, and I mean the head handicappers said 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.960 himself that maybe will revisiting it where you just really 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:55.960 do have to see if you're giving too much of 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.680 a handicap away at the set, like for the back bass, 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:02.120 like I mean it's it's they were gout was flying harh. 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.159 Yeah, don't get me wrong. And Lockey Kennedy did well 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:05.159 in his eer. 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:06.800 Shots of his heat was just beautiful. 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.160 It was incredible. 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.359 But you still want to have your best races competing 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.320 in the final. So obviously, and this is no disrespect 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.520 to John Evans, he deserved that win, but something has 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:18.080 gone wrong. 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:20.800 Yeah John Evans, who's a school teacher. Yeah yeah, who 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.080 can now say that he beat Locky Kennedy and gowgut 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:25.680 that he's going to see running in the Olympics. That's 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:26.359 the beauty of this. 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.920 Can you imagine going into your class and every one 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:30.400