1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: You know, I love a chat, whether it's on air 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: or even during the ad breaks. And I'm very excited 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: because joining me in the studio this morning is Darwin 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: based artist Nigel Sense. He joins me in the studio 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: right now. Good morning to you, Nigel. 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: Hey, he's again. 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Thanks doing well, Thanks so much for coming in now. 8 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: I say I'm excited because I love the work that 9 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: I've seen of yours. You are, like I said, a 10 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: Darwin based artist at the moment, it is so bright, 11 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: it's so modern, it's so cool. Mate, you're a COVID refugee. 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: Though you told me in the ad break. 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: There we are. 14 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: I knew nothing of Darwin, really, I just knew you 15 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: guys had lucks of for breakfast and I love lucks 16 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: of for breakfast. We came up, went to Prap markets. 17 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: There was lucks of for breakfast, and then we stayed. 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 3: We've even brought a place here now, so it's kind 19 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 3: of like the home. I why not leaving when we 20 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: travel a bit. I love it that people are just 21 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 3: super friendly. It's a great place to be an artist. 22 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 3: To be honest, people, I've stopped going to the pub 23 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: on my home because people talk to me too much. 24 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: I just want to go there and have a break man. 25 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: It's really nice. 26 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: Well this is a lovely thing about Darwin as well, though, 27 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: as everybody ends up knowing each other. Everybody knows you 28 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: know who each other is, and you do strike up 29 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: those conversations. But you you said there that you know, 30 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: you went to perap you had your luxA for breakfast. 31 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: And that's where your art is going to be on 32 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: display for the next for what period of time. 33 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 3: It opens Friday this Friday the sixth, and it closes 34 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: on the sixteenth of April. 35 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: Now that's quite a big chunk. 36 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's called the visitor Center. Ye tell 37 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: us a little bit about what people are going to 38 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: be able to say. 39 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: I think I wanted a vehicle, something to attach my 40 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: work to. And I remember going to these visit centers 41 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: as a child. You know, three hours, all I want, 42 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: We'll go into the beach. All I wanted to do 43 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: was go for a swim, and we stop at this 44 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 3: visitor center. I'm probably like carsick. 45 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: You know. 46 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: We get all these flyers, all these stuff, and then 47 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: we never ever see it. 48 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: Anyway. 49 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: We do that every year, and I just thought this 50 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: would be a great kind of vehicle for my art, 51 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: because my work is always it's their diaries of my travel. 52 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I. 53 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: Wanted to I wanted to show anti landscapes, but I 54 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: wasn't too sure how to do that. I thought with 55 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: a new kind of contemporary setting of a visitor center 56 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: might be an interesting way. And I can paint on 57 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 3: tan and I could just be a little bit more 58 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: loose and spontaneous than my Melbourne and Sydney galleries don't allow. 59 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: So I can kind of I can paint and fail 60 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: and we'll figure it out from there. I love that 61 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: idea of just being af to just do my work 62 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: without any kind of consequence. 63 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: And so is it a bit of a tribute to 64 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: your to your life that you've had so far in 65 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: the territory, Yeah, it. 66 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 3: Is, but it's they're like I have, I've done payings 67 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 3: about Jymim Falls. But then again, there'll be like some 68 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: little tile that I've seen in Penang that will come 69 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 3: in there. So it's like this weird kind of Frankenstein 70 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: landscape of. 71 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: Just my diary of traveling. 72 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, a nine hour bus in like somewhere 73 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: in Mexico where I'm looking out the window board. I 74 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: just see things and I write them down a little drawings, 75 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: and they just become part of part of my work eventually. 76 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: But I'm using like anti landscapes as a base to 77 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: to do these works. 78 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: Cool. So it's going to be there. Where is it 79 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: going to be exactly? 80 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: It's in the Northern Center for Connemporary Art. Yeah, sure, exactly. 81 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 3: Dress that's all right, people. 82 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: Well and perhaps become quite a little hub for for 83 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: our wonderful art. 84 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing. And I've had an art residency so 85 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: I've been painting in there since I think just late December, 86 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: which has been great. So I've had a big space 87 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: the pain in there and just be surrounded by the work. 88 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: I think my work's got a lot more brighter. I 89 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: thought i'd come back because we were nomadic. We'd sold 90 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 3: everything and we were living overseas, and then COVID came 91 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: and we had to come back. And all I had 92 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: was a box of my in laws. And I opened 93 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: the box and I was just full of junk, and 94 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, why did I even keep this? I could 95 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: have kept something else that would have been better. But 96 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: I think my work's got brighter because I needed it. 97 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: Someone said, oh, this, this, this exhibition is really great. 98 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: I can go in there and have a break from 99 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: the world for ten minutes. And how nice of you 100 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: to do that for us. And I'm like, I gotta 101 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: be honest, I think I did it for myself. 102 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: I really did, because it's great when others can enjoy it, 103 00:03:59,360 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: I think. 104 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's collective grief. We're all going through this together, right, Yeah, 105 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: whatever is happening. So I don't know. 106 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: My work's just got brighter and bigger. They're big works, 107 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: They're bright. I think they're beautiful. It's just nice to 108 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: come into the space, be surrounded by beauty and just 109 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: kind of take a break yourself, give yourself an okay 110 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 3: to have a break for your work. 111 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: Is it is beautiful. It's so lovely and bright, and 112 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: I think that, like, I'm very attractive to that really 113 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: bright art. I think it's going to be a tremendous exhibition. 114 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: I understand as well that you're experimenting with some new materials, 115 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: territory icons. There's a skis these tents, which is the. 116 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: Second time I've ever put up a tent. 117 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 3: Sorry, but and the first time was that Barn Blady Blues, 118 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: So that doesn't even account either. 119 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: It does. 120 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 3: And I thought tents were like flat on the sides, 121 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: but they've got more flappy little areas. And I even thought, 122 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: so this is this is this is an interesting experiment actually, 123 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: but it turned. 124 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: Out really well. 125 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: Actually it's it's I don't know, it's just nice to 126 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: depend on something. It's a little different. And I like mistakes. 127 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: I think the world sometimes you can't make any mistakes, 128 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 3: but in my heart, I really really love that. With 129 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 3: the music as well, I'm kind of just trying to 130 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: really go with those mistakes and they lead me to 131 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: something that's I never thought i'd be able to do, 132 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: especially the kis. 133 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: The eskis turned out, I'm like. 134 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 1: That, so what are they really? Bright? 135 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: Painting is just flat, but he's kind of move around. 136 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 3: So I call them like paintings for your table, you know. 137 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: They're like they're like sculptures, but they're a painting sculpture. 138 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 139 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: I think they've got a great application for more of 140 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: my commercial galleries as well, which I would never have 141 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: done that if I didn't have that room to just 142 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: be allowed to do whatever. They just kind of said, 143 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: do whatever the hell you want. 144 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: To do, which is scary, yeah, but also wonderful. I 145 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: think it's going to be fantastic, and so people are 146 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: able to obviously head there from Friday to open stuff. 147 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: Friday night at six it's free. 148 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just come and just take a break from 149 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: the world for ten minutes and you know, eat a 150 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: luxe in there. It's fine, and just I'm there. I'm 151 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: there painting. Next to part of the space is my studio. 152 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: They've let me paint in there as well, so I'll 153 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: be painting and producing work throughout the show. So they 154 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 3: can come and talk to me and they can get 155 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: what's a little thing in the corner of the painting, 156 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 3: because they're all little stories. 157 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: And they can find out more. 158 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: I didn't shut up about my work, so no, I 159 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: think it's wonderful. 160 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: I love it when people are passionate about what they do, 161 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: and you can tell that you're so passionate about what 162 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: you do. But I love that you're a COVID refugee 163 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: as well, you and your partner. You've ended up here 164 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: and contributing, you know, and you're going to have this wonderful, 165 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: wonderful exhibition opening on Friday. I encourage people to get 166 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: in there. And check it out. 167 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 3: Come and say hello and check out. It's like fresh 168 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: eyes that I'm seeing the territory for the first time. 169 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: So ye, which is really nice. Nigel, lovely to chat 170 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: with you this morning. We really appreciate your time. And 171 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: so it is opening Friday and it's going to be 172 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: fantastic at the Northern Center for Contemporary Art there in 173 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: Perhaps Thanks so much for coming in awesome. Thank you