WEBVTT - LUCINA INNOCENCE - RUPAULS DRAG RACE - STAN AUSTRALIA 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.680 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.960 TV Reload the podcast Can't Leap the Life. Hey guys, 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.880 welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:10.000 for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Lucina Innocence, 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:13.119 who was the third eliminated queen from Rupo's Drag Race 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:14.319 down Under season four. 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.400 This week we saw some really tough competition in the 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:18.280 weekly challenge. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.120 While one queen was destined to win, others actually did 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:23.600 better than they thought. I think moving forward, the queens 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:25.960 are going to continue to fill the pinch, as there 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:27.000 are only eight. 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:28.400 Episodes in the season and that. 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.280 Finale is already feeling like it's inching its way forward. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:33.880 Lucina will share her thoughts on the way in which 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.040 the queens read each other and if some of the 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:38.519 other queens were a little bit unfair at times. We 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:40.720 will unpack the game within the game, and that is 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.200 the rivalry between New Zealand and Australia. I will ask 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.680 about the roses and if there were any regrets on 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.040 how Lucina styled her gown. You will get everything from 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.559 going into your own head in a competition like this, 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.920 what was really going on? Behind the scenes with an 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.680 onset romance and who were Michelle Vasage's eyes and ears 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.080 during the weekly challenges. There's actually so much to talk about, 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.120 with so many insign revelations. So sit back and relax 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.160 as we unpacked the wonderful world of Rupol's Drag Race 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:08.680 down Under. 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:10.240 Hi, Lucyner, how are you? 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:11.840 And good? Thank you? How are you? 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:13.319 I'm very well? You know what? 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.759 At my house there is never too many roses happy 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:18.440 to hear that. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:18.880 Well. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.920 Congratulations on getting onto Rupoul's Drag Race down Under. It 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.400 is such a hard show to get onto. You must 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.280 feel so elated to be able to have had this opportunity. 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.280 Yeah. Absolutely. It was my third time auditioning and I 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.319 was like, finally got through and you're just getting on 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.360 the show with such a big achievement in itself, So 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:37.880 very grateful for that. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:39.959 What makes you think that you got through this time? 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:41.760 Is there anything that you did? Did you do like 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.440 an extra peal and revealed? Did you slip them some cash? 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.520 That's between me and then No, I don't know. I 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.480 think just it all comes down to timing sometimes, like 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.360 what about looking for in a different season. So I'm 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.600 glad I had a bit more time to really cook 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:56.520 for it. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.360 Is it easier or harder than it looks? 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.880 Because to me as a viewer and not as a 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.080 drag queen, I think that this show looks like the 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.160 most complicated reality show you could possibly sign yourself up for. 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.600 But I guess you know, this is your industry, this 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.640 is what you know how to do. What's it like 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:12.079 now that you've done it? 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:13.600 I mean, I knew it was going to be hard, 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.480 especially based on what other people have said and knowing 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.480 people that have done it before, but definitely harder than 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.280 I thought. I don't think anything can really prepare you 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.200 from it. You know, at the moment you get cast, 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.120 sorting your looks like preparing everything, and then you go 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.680 to the set and that's go, go, go, and no sleep. 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:35.000 And just for people like us who are night owls, 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.520 most drag queens are getting up early in the morning 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.000 and getting into drag You're just like. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.000 There seems to be like a little bit of a 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.960 competition within the competition with Australia versus New Zealand, and 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.440 that has been instead of the background of all four seasons. 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.760 I wouldn't know from your impression of that, is there 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:56.079 that behind the scenes. What's it like for the queens, Not. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.520 That I can think of anything. I feel like it's 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.160 maybe a bit more city versus city. So with then 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.040 Australia or even in New Zealand, there's always been a 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.520 little bit of like an Auckland and Wellington kind of 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.920 friendly rivalry, so that nothing too serious. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.240 Of course, Why do you think that we've got to 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.480 season four and we've found such top notch queens now 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.480 on the show? Has something different happened or do you 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.320 think we just sort of understand the brand more. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.360 Probably a combination of both. I think there deffinitely is 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.320 like a lot of talent around Australia and New Zealand, 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.840 and it's on even a small handful of queens that 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.320 have gone to be on the show. So contrary to 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.840 what certain people online they say, there's a lot of 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.360 great drag talent here. 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.760 If you're looking at it, sort of Brenda, Mandy and 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.160 Lazy they kind of look like they're sort of leading 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.520 the competition at the moment. Are they the ones that 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.520 everyone feels a little bit more intimidated by? Were there 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.360 certain queens that you felt intimidated by? 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.400 I didn't really know of many of them. Before the show, 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.640 I knew of Nikita and Olivia are from New Zealand, 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.840 and then I had heard of Max, and so I 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.080 knew I did not want to live think against Smacks. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.000 Other than that, I was kind of just learning about 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.600 all of those queens as we went along, and I think, yeah, 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:10.160 as it goes on in as Lazy Susan kept winning 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.360 challenges and all that, you kind of figure out who 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.680 are the ones to watch. But honestly, all of them 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.040 so talented, and I don't know, it was such a 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.040 well when it's hard to even remember. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.000 It seemed to me like you got into your head 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.640 pretty early on in this series and then it was 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.920 really hard to get yourself out of that. Is it 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.240 right to say that as from a viewers perspective that 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.000 we could see that, Is that how you felt? 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:34.440 Yeah? 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:38.240 Absolutely? I think it was. As soon as Michelle walked 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.840 into the room and said that first challenge, I thought 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.880 I was going to go home first because my outfit 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.600 was not finished and and I knew that, and when 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.400 they said that was a challenge, I thought, oh no. 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.040 And then obviously I lip synced on the first episode, 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.400 and which I hadn't expected to do before coming to film, 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.760 and so yeah, it really just threw me off and 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:58.400 sent me into a bit of a spiral. And I 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.640 don't think I was able to a really speck from that. 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:03.599 I think that's one of the things that it's so 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.279 easy when you get home to think, oh, I could 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.640 have done that differently, But like when you're in the moment, 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.320 I think that viewers probably don't understand that very much. 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.640 Getting into your head is almost impossible to pull yourself 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.640 out of because the more you it's like when you 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.520 start sweating, right, you know, if you say to yourself, 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.400 stop sweating, you just start sweating more. 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.600 Yeah, for sure, And it's definitely easier sit than done. 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.520 And I feel like I pretty much every season of 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.680 drag Race is someone who kind of goes through a 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.560 similar thing. But then you watch it and you think, 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.600 pullice off together, and watching myself back, I sort of 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.920 think that, but knowing what it was like at the time, 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.360 it's just no way around it. Really. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.560 I noticed that a few times that in this episode 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.440 people were sort of maybe undermining you a little bit. 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:45.480 Maybe that's the storyline. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.359 It gets put together, but sort of Mandy through some 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.799 shade at your snatch game, and I kind of felt like, well, 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.159 that's a big call to call someone out like that 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.440 in front of everybody else. Did you feel like that 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.680 maybe some of the stronger players in the game at 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.839 this point are looking to pick off the weaker players 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.520 to keep themselves in the competition longer, potentially. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.279 I think at the time, after doing Snatch hom and 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.560 having my first safe week, I was, you know, sort 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.800 of on a high, and then to hear other girls 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.720 say that put me back in that place. And I 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.680 don't think it was necessarily malicious or trying to throw 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.520 me off, but I feel like they should be coming 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.120 for the people who they think are competition. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:23.200 I agree with you. 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.520 I would say you want to try and take out 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.000 some of the stronger competition and maybe leave some of 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.200 the girls that maybe if you think are not as 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.600 strong as others, keep them to the end. I think 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.960 they called the goats in other like in Survivor and 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:37.560 things like that, you know you've got to save a 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.839 few goats around. It just seemed like there was a 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.239 few digs at you this episode, and so I wondered 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.600 whether or not you felt sort of undermined at all 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:45.880 with that. 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.080 I think I knew that the other girls were under 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.720 estimating me at that point, because you know, they only 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.920 had seen what I'd shown so far in the competition, 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.680 and I knew that wasn't my best and so if 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:58.360 that's all they know of me, then of course they're 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.599 going to think I maybe not as much of a 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.960 threat as I could have been pulled myself together a 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:05.840 bit more. But it is what it is. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.520 I mean, it's a tough competition. The mini challenge gave 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.880 you the opportunity to sort of say something shady about 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.320 everyone else. Do you worry about insulting the queens in 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.400 real time or do you try and play to the 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:17.239 audience at home? 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.120 Yeah, because I think people forget that when you're in 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.480 that moment and saying those things, you are doing it 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.520 face to face, unless you're obviously in the confessionals. But 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.320 it's not even so much of the audience. It's like, 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.520 because you're going to go in on someone, it's knowing 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.080 that they're going to see it. So I'm just not 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.120 the type of person that will unnecessarily try to bring 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.840 someone down or like I have to. You have to 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.040 notice someone's vibe to be able to be shady and 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:41.800 know that they're not going to be you know, take 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:43.040 it personally and get upset. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.160 Something about RuPaul in general is like over the seasons, 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.760 if you put the reading glasses on, you're allowed to 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.160 be shady. But then sometimes being shady like that seems 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.560 like it's a bit harsh. I think I'd struggle with 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:58.520 understanding the values in determining when you're allowed to be shady, 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.280 when you're not, and when it's going to upset someone 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:00.840 and when it's not. 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.280 Yeah, I feel like it's just something you learn over 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.800 the years of doing drag and like all these queens 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.040 have spent time in dressing rooms, they know the Bible 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.280 that the more experienced queens know that. But it's funny 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.320 because I'll often meet baby queens who are just starting 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.400 out and they think drags shade sort of come up 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.480 and throw out some insults, and you just think, maybe, girl, 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.160 that's not how we do it around here. 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:23.680 I remember doing it once. 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.440 I got asked to be a guest, and so I 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.720 came along as a guest to this drag show that 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:30.040 was in front of I think it was like a 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.120 thousand people that were there, and everyone was being really shady. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:37.640 So I said something really mean spirited someone in the audience. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.800 There was two people that were dressed up as Kath 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.079 and Kim characters, and to me at the time, they 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.760 looked like they weren't doing such a great job. And 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.360 I said something like, you know, your poor excuse for 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.839 Kath and Kim or something, thinking I was leaning into 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.520 saying something shady because that's the culture of it. And 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.920 then I remember going backstage and people were like, that 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:56.439 was bad. 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.360 You learn got to have some moments like that to 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:00.760 figure out what not to do. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.280 So Mandy Mooves was known for the sewing Challenge. Do 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.320 you think that if Mandy had not have won this 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.120 week that she may have rioted because the outfit was 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.640 amazing and the compliments were great and is is getting 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.640 up and that Mandy got that moment. But what do 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.120 you think that Mandy would have done had it had 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:20.240 been won by someone else? 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.760 She probably would have got out those sewing shears and 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:27.160 threw them directly at Michelle's throat. Yeah, I can understand 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.240 why she would be upset if she had it won, 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.800 But I mean with the look she made, there's no 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.559 way she couldn't have It was just incredible. 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.840 She really did deliver you know Freyer and Max as well. 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.080 We got a little tease about something that was going 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.720 on behind the scenes, and because the episodes are so 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:44.880 tightly packed, ped I've really get to explore much of 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:46.960 that kind of stuff. So I want you to spill 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.480 the tea on this What was going on behind the 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.200 scenes with those two. 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:55.040 Well, all I can say is that it's probably a 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.960 good thing that we were all kept in separate hotel rooms. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.280 Are you allowed to go into the other because I 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.840 guess they're trying to keep you separate so storylines can 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.080 be all for camera, So that means you're not allowed 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:06.240 to go into each other's rooms. 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:11.080 No, we're not, keep separate, keep everything fresh for the cameras, 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.280 and make sure they don't miss any stories and that 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:13.880 kind of thing. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.560 Is that like school camp where there's like a teacher 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.600 sitting outside the bunks and making sure that no one 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:24.200 goes into the other rooms, pretty much like tight security? 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.200 Well what have they got to stop you from doing that? Though? 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.000 I think it's more of a case they're not going to, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.400 you know, physically stop you, but if you were to 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.440 try and break the rules during you're going to sabotage yourself. 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.720 And then also the fact that Michelle Visage asked that 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:39.559 loaded question meant that someone had reported back to Michelle 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.040 that these two something might have been going on. Are 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.760 there spies watching for those sorts of things being passed 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:45.440 on to Michelle? 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:46.680 And are you guys all aware of that. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.280 I don't think they were very subtle about it. I'm 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:52.360 pretty sure, you know, they had a little kiss on 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.600 the first episode runway, but then there was another one, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.840 I don't know which episode it was, where they had 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.360 a little smooch in the work room. So I don't 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:01.440 think that being that subtle. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.440 Really, I was going to ask you about the dress, 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:05.920 so we sort of talked about it at the start, 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.480 about how many roses you put on it. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:08.400 You know, there was some. 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.640 Commentary about whether or not it might have been better 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.760 to just leave the roses around the neck and around 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.319 the sleeve. I actually just thought it looked really beautiful. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.600 I thought the dress was beautiful. I thought the arrangement 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.840 of flowers was beautiful. But do you think that you 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.480 would have got away with that dress if it was 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:25.040 just very plain like them? 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.240 It's hard to say, because, you know, I think some 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:31.320 of the other outfits were more simple, But because they 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.520 were nicely made, they maybe got more praise. I think 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.200 when I originally started it that I was doing, I 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.440 was trying to do like a gradient from the bottom 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.800 of the dress to sort of fade up. But then 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.360 I started realizing how long it was taking to cut 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.760 up those flowers and sort of just started slapping them on. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:50.800 If I were to do it again, I would wouldn't 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.400 have touched the roses in the amount of time and 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.200 tried to just make something more interesting out of the 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:55.920 black fabric. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:56.720 Eive it was me. 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:58.600 I could imagine that I would have just kept making 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:00.320 roses and putting on it as well, and it was 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:01.679 just adding some more color to. 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.400 It, yeah, you know, something to give it a bit 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.000 of life. And that the fabrics in the box were 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:10.600 not something I would particularly wear myself. Had to make 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:11.600 do with what I had. 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.679 Absolutely the song choice for the lip sync for me 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.520 was really a strange choice because moving pictures what about me? 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.040 I love that song and I think it's a it's 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.560 a classic Australian but it's a hard song to do 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:23.280 a lip sync too. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.200 Were you a little bit did you know that song? 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:25.520 Well? 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.400 So the song was actually used in one of the 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:32.840 past audition tapes for Joe Grace. Remember hearing it and thinking, okay, 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.040 it's you know, a male vocal, should it normally do? 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.520 And when I auditioned that side, they tried to take 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.319 more of like a funny sort of version of my performance. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.120 When I had to lip sync it, I just thought, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.920 you know, I was feeling all the emotions and just 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.480 sort of channeled them all into the number. 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:51.920 In the moment. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.000 It would be really easy to sing it realistically, but 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.480 I think it might have been bigger to amplify it 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.400 and try and make it more than it was. So 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.760 you're saying that in the audition process you did try 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.280 and sort of amplify it a little bit more. 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.040 Yeah, maybe I'll put the video one day. But it 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.920 was just me like frollocking down the street and doing 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.120 silly things while I look sink to it because I 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.719 was like, I cannot take the song seriously. But when 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.000 I loop sync did, I was not in the mood 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.200 to be silly, so I took it there. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.839 Most people would know that song from being Shannon. Shannonole 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.040 sung that song quite well, But then I was wondering, 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.319 do you know who Shannonole is? Over in New Zealand. 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:30.360 I do not. I'm pretty sure Guy Sebastian did a 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:31.840 version of it though that I heard. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.000 Guy Sebastian and Shannonole were in the finale of an 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.520 Australian idol back in the day that was very iconic 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.319 and Old did choose to sing that what About Me song? 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.160 And I think it went to number one for something 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:45.080 like fifty weeks, so it was like an interesting rendition 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.360 of that song that it was sort of revitalized. And 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.880 I don't think many people of my generation even knew 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.120 the Moving Pictures version. 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:52.640 Well I certainly didn't. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.600 Did you think at that point that you were going home? 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.160 What was your thoughts when it came down to the 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:56.640 lip sync? 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.520 I didn't think I was going to be lip syncing, 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.360 but as soon as I was called to be in 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.080 the bottom, I was like, wow, it's over. 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:03.240 Well before you go. 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.520 Something I ask everyone who joins the pod is what 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.480 is something from behind the scenes, something that we maybe 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.240 did not get a chance to see. How much money 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.760 did you spend on your drag preparing all your time 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:15.680 on the fourth season? 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:20.640 Oh? I think it was around tim Ky. Some people 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.720 might do it weird. Did that money go? But you 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:24.280 know things aren't cheap. 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.560 Well, can I just say congratulations again on being able 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:28.560 to be picked on this show. 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:29.800 I think you did a great job. 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.360 I think it's a very tough competition this season, so 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.840 it's going to be very hard to see who takes 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:36.840 this out. But yeah, I just think you did a 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.800 great job and I really enjoyed watching you this season. 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.640 Crazy experience and can't wait to see what comes next. 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.160 Well, I enjoy chatting with the media today. 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.360 Look after yourself and again, thank you for being so 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:49.320 generous with your time. 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:50.800 Thank you, it's been a pleasure.