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Speaker 1: Christian Christian O'Connell's show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good evening, It's Tuesday night. Welcome to the Christian

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Speaker 2: O'Connell Show. Yesterday, I was asking for movie recommendations, but

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Speaker 2: of a very specific type of movie. You know, there

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Speaker 2: are those movies which we hold very dear and I

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Speaker 2: think they actually stay with us. They show us something

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Speaker 2: about our lives, don't they, And they change you a

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Speaker 2: little bit at the end of it. And I was

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Speaker 2: looking for those movies because over the next six weeks,

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Speaker 2: on a Monday afternoon with my thirteen year old daughter

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Speaker 2: who's homeschool at the moment, and a bit of a

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Speaker 2: even worse at that age if I had to do homeschooling.

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Speaker 2: We're going to on a Monday afternoon, I'm letting at

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Speaker 2: a knockoff for herly and but she's got to watch

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Speaker 2: talk about it afterwards. And yesterday, so many calls, Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much yesterday for all the calls, all the emails,

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Speaker 2: I mean, so many emails throughout the day that you're

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Speaker 2: taking time that you've got going on right now, But

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Speaker 2: emails that you'd thought about during the day and why

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Speaker 2: this certain movie. And some of you sent me Top

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Speaker 2: five to movies that you've watched with your kids or

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Speaker 2: that you watch with your mum or dad that stay

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Speaker 2: with you. Are loads so many greatness, but one cat

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Speaker 2: coming up. I thought it's got to be that. It's

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Speaker 2: stand by Me. And so we watched stand By Me

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Speaker 2: yesterday afternoon at two thirty, I let a little fire

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Speaker 2: and I made some snacks and we sat down with

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Speaker 2: the dogs and the cats, and then what stand By Me?

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Speaker 2: And I think when I first saw this, I think

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Speaker 2: it came out in eighty six, I was thirteen, and

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Speaker 2: I remember watching it with my three best mates. And

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Speaker 2: it is about friendship, what happens as you grow older

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Speaker 2: some of the ugly truths about life. And I remember

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Speaker 2: we all watched it, and I remember we all cycled

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Speaker 2: out of there together. We'd cycled all the way there.

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Speaker 2: We felt like it was our movie. It was about us,

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Speaker 2: even though we didn't quite fully know what was coming

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Speaker 2: our way. As you go into and they talk about

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Speaker 2: And it's got that Stephen King is a genius, you know.

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Speaker 2: Look at Misery and Shawshank Redemption, which was also a

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Speaker 2: short story which was this originally was stand by me

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Speaker 2: called The Body. It's got this great opening line. I

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Speaker 2: was twelve going on thirteen the first time I saw

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Speaker 2: a dead human being. What you're there, aren't you? It

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Speaker 2: just snaps your attention. It just towards you straight in

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Speaker 2: the Richard Drafers had grown up. Jordi, it's about watching

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Speaker 2: it again now, all those years later, watch it now

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Speaker 2: as a dad with my thirteen year old daughter. Of course,

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Speaker 2: it's going into that world now and seeing it again

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Speaker 2: as a as a forty seven year old, but with

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Speaker 2: for me. I love seeing it my daughter she absolutely

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Speaker 2: loved it as well. It's about as perfect a movie

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did you ache? Because I mean Biank and I

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Speaker 3: watch it as well. Inspired by your movie Club, we

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Speaker 3: nostegia that I felt because I was the same. I

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Speaker 3: thought that's a great movie. But now you watch it again,

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Speaker 3: you think about yourself at that age. We know, don't

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Speaker 2: And then what happens from when you're twelve to where

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Speaker 2: stand the test of time. The movie is seen through

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Speaker 2: the children's eyes, you know, the four of them, but

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Speaker 2: it's also thren through this kind of bittersweet knowing of

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Speaker 2: the narrator's voice, who has the knowledge of wisdom and

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Speaker 2: the opening scene, you know that Chris dies, he's not

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Speaker 2: it's a movie about a loss of innocence, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Even when they talk about their parents, and some of

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Speaker 3: Times, and there are those dark things in the dark

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful movie. There's a scene that I just loved.

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Speaker 2: There are a couple of scenes that really stand the

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Speaker 2: throwing pebbles and rocks in a can. Do you rememb

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Speaker 2: when you were that age, you didn't even you didn't

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Speaker 2: emails coming and or people text me going, did you

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Speaker 2: get the email? He hadn't replied. Time had no relevance.

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Speaker 3: You didn't worry about what you had to do that night,

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Speaker 2: You felt like you had your place in the world sorted,

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Speaker 2: and then things kind of get chipped away, and that's

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Speaker 2: the full journey of time. But I cannot recommend watching

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Speaker 2: it again. I did some research yesterday evening about the movie.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize it It got filmed in nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 2: And the independent movie company that signed the rights to this,

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Speaker 2: he cut checked for eight million dollars of his own

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Speaker 2: money to make sure that stand by Me still got

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Speaker 2: gets better. Yeah, I thought it got so much better.

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Speaker 2: And all the four kids, they're like teenagers. They're given

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Speaker 2: these amazing performances. You know, Jerry O'Connell, the chubby little

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Speaker 2: you know, years later as Jerry Maguire's quarterback, and then

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Speaker 2: obviously River Phoenix. It is his movie. He is electrifying.

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Speaker 2: There's an amazing magnetic presence in there, but there's no

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Speaker 2: you know, when you watch an actor and you're not

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Speaker 2: watching an actor, it feels like there's no filter between

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Speaker 2: I don't know how he did this. I think it

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Speaker 2: was fourteen or fifteen when he made this movie. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go and watch it again. Honestly you'll you'll be

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Speaker 2: grateful for seeing stand by Me. It will, it will.

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Speaker 2: I think it's one of those movies. In fact, let's

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether they've aged. I think it's probably

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Speaker 2: more that we've aged. That's what is. Life has happened

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Speaker 2: The movie is the same, but we are not the same.

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Speaker 2: The Christian O'Connell Show podcast, Guys, your discussion about stand

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Speaker 2: By Me my favorite movie ever, has actually had me

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Speaker 2: especially you're talking about River Phoenix and just how amazing

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Speaker 2: River Phoenix. It's just it blows your way. A couple

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Speaker 3: There's this scene and we were tearing up watching this

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Speaker 3: I was your dad because your dad is in what

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Speaker 2: He says, You've got these gifts because they know that

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Speaker 2: it's all going to change. And Chris knows that he's

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Speaker 2: with more intelligent kids, you know. And you've got this gift.

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Speaker 2: He says, You've got this gift from God about your storytelling.

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Speaker 2: on to become that writer. Uh yeah, Angie, Andngie says

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Speaker 2: next couple of weeks, why don't you on a Monday night,

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Speaker 2: if you to watch the movie that I'm gonna watch

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Speaker 2: with my daughter Lois, You're more than welcome to join us,

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Speaker 2: and then we can have a little Tuesday morning film club.

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Speaker 2: So this morning, then I want to know the movies

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Speaker 2: like stand by Me by the Way the thirteen year Old.

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Speaker 2: Then Lois at the end of the movie, right, we

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Speaker 2: I go, what do you think? She goes, as amazing,

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Speaker 2: it's one of the best movies I've ever seen. She said, Oh,

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Speaker 2: on and we're getting a poster. And then is it

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Speaker 2: sad that I also got one for myself as well?

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Speaker 3: Imagine daddy daughter posting.

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Speaker 2: The family that poster her together, Stay Together, And then

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Speaker 2: I've actually be if I went to bed last night.

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Speaker 2: I'm really sorry you're on hold there. Whilst Jack and

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Speaker 2: Great thing to do, all right, One last call, Patrick,

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Speaker 2: you're well. What's a movie that gets better with time?

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Speaker 1: Definitely The stand Lock Kid?

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Speaker 1: It, Okay, So basically stand Lock Kids in a nut shell.

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Speaker 3: you like, early nineties would you say, Patrick.

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