WEBVTT - Do You Have Housemate Sleepovers?  💤

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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Rooms Daily podcast. Hey we're back. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we're going to be talking about j LO. Jennifer Lopez,

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<v Speaker 2>now known as Jennifer A. Fleck changed her name. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>unsure of that, but also it's her prerogative. It's her choice.

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<v Speaker 2>FLEXI will be changing your last name even when you

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<v Speaker 2>get married.

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<v Speaker 3>If it sounds good like my initials at LA currently,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't really get any better than that. But if

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<v Speaker 3>it rolls with the tongue, it's tricky. Because my name's Lillian,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't like Lillian Price. Oh oh, if I had

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<v Speaker 3>a brother, that's not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've got a brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I could be Listender Henkenhi, that's giving strong.

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<v Speaker 3>People think I'm German because of my last name, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, I think that if you had that

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<v Speaker 3>last name, they think you're German too.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even tell you you've never heard of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty cool and unique. I'm not going to change my

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<v Speaker 2>name purely because my name is Litender Price.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great name, isn't it sounds good? I mean

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<v Speaker 3>some people have names that are worth changing. It's either

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<v Speaker 3>it's not flowing, it's not memorable. It's just not giving.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're going to do the paperwork, I would change

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<v Speaker 3>both names, like I would add if I'm changing my surname,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm making flex my legal name yep, Lilian Flex. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I'd hyphenate it or whatever. Then I'd add in a

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<v Speaker 3>middle name for flavor.

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<v Speaker 2>Like then.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me something to work with, babes, give us something Rose.

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<v Speaker 3>Aurora, something nice, you know. And then I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if I would fully change my name. We've got a hyphenate, babe,

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<v Speaker 3>you change your name, husband, he'll change.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is what I'm thinking. Middle name Froomes. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to legally change that. Anyone wondering I

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<v Speaker 2>do get the DM every month makes me realize that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't really care about me, because if you did,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd know my middle name's friends. I'm going to name

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<v Speaker 2>my child Heath Froomes Price after your mum.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to keep the Frooms in the name because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously it's going to die out. My sister and I

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<v Speaker 2>the only Frooms left in the whole world.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there was Paul Frooms. I did google him.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, not related though. If you're not giving me

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<v Speaker 2>an inheritance, were.

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<v Speaker 3>Not related anyway, today's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>You're only gonna have a boy child. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>a boy child. But you're gonna name You're gonna name

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<v Speaker 1>her Heath. I'm gonna name her. Give me a sec. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Told you this Rosie and Ellie, because I told my

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<v Speaker 2>grandma told you this year. No, I told my grandma

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<v Speaker 2>when I have a baby, I'm gonna have purple hair

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<v Speaker 2>and name my kids Rosy and Ellie.

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<v Speaker 1>I see that's so clear. I'm not gonna be a ballerina, obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>I see it so clearly. I believe you.

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<v Speaker 2>Ellie and Rose though, like they're not my favorite names.

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<v Speaker 2>I do love Ellie, but like it's very common.

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<v Speaker 3>I like floral names, but again they've been done. And

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<v Speaker 3>don't you want a unique kid?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you give him a bit of a complex.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna call my kid Remington. You call him Remmy.

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<v Speaker 2>Remington is a brand of appliance flax.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what about.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm gonna continue my mom's like colonizer name thing

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<v Speaker 3>you got Max?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Remington is like rim job. What I'm just giving

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<v Speaker 2>room job? Anyway, continue, we need like.

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<v Speaker 3>A bow bizarre And then I'd call him Billy or something,

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<v Speaker 3>give him like interest flavor, and then his middle night

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<v Speaker 3>would be like rex Pyro Pyro, Yeah, something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that like pyromaniac?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I remember like one of my old bosses, her

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<v Speaker 3>kid's name is Jet and I was like, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for adding some slavor into this kid's life.

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<v Speaker 1>She was big in two thousand and four. Probably that

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<v Speaker 1>feels like the age of the Kid and the band.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's go on with the show with one final thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you see trends, and as a parent, I'm thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you want to go against the trend?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is that me having a god complex? What is

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<v Speaker 1>the trend?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Like? The trend is like yeah, things like Remington

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<v Speaker 2>and like Earnest and y and yeat, Like, leave my king.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Either way, it's gonna have a classical name that's good

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<v Speaker 3>for optics, a feral name that's just the fun joke

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<v Speaker 3>that's taken too far, Like call him him Steggles, that's

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<v Speaker 3>my king.

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<v Speaker 1>Never like is that your real name? Yeah, my mum's

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<v Speaker 1>really cool Ingham Chicken. I'll call him Remington's Pigeon Pattinson.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, enough, Tom Foller, let's get into the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Flicks and today we are celebrating the launch of Netflix's

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<v Speaker 3>brand news show Heartbreak High Wow. It is what it

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<v Speaker 3>sounds like, high school based series, but it's from an

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<v Speaker 3>Australian perspective because everybody is in it is Australian and

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<v Speaker 3>not in like a weirdly stereotypically like. I don't resonate

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<v Speaker 3>with this at all. It's cool, I really I'm liking

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<v Speaker 3>the vibe of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Directed by Graciotto, a great young Australian director.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>And to celebrate that, we're talking all things high school now. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we're a couple of years out of it, not too many,

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<v Speaker 3>not too much now I'm twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but a couple.

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<v Speaker 3>But not too much. We can't reflect on what that

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<v Speaker 3>was like for us now. In particular, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about sex. It's a huge theme in the show. Naturally,

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<v Speaker 3>it probably is the cornerstone of what happens. Look, let

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<v Speaker 3>me not give anything away. I don't know anything, but

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<v Speaker 3>I have read a few spoiler articles. But I was

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about what we did or did not learn in

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<v Speaker 3>sex lit the class with theyre supposedly meant to tell

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<v Speaker 3>you all about the birds and the bees and what

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<v Speaker 3>you are meant to do and I'm not meant to do.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't recall receiving anything quite helpful, did you?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly?

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that I remember is very stereotypical, and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I wonder if I just made it up?

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<v Speaker 1>Is year nine learning how to put a condom them?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the banana thing? I feel the same way. Did

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<v Speaker 1>that really happen? Or do we make it up? Do

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<v Speaker 1>it yourself? Yeah? I never once have put a condom

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<v Speaker 1>on anything. It's not my job. What on anything? It's

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<v Speaker 1>not my job. Have you ever tried to do it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not my favorite task. It's not really ever done it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do I have because safe sex is the

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<v Speaker 1>best sex.

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<v Speaker 3>Putting a little ferret Okay, not too much? Sorry, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah that's a big thing, because let's push that

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<v Speaker 3>to the side. Then if we don't recall whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not we were taught how to put on a condom,

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<v Speaker 3>then what did we learn. I do remember the rhetoric

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<v Speaker 3>that if you have sex you will get pregnant or

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<v Speaker 3>an STI that was a given number one. And also

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<v Speaker 3>sex is what parents do.

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<v Speaker 2>I got the slideshow of this is what Gonneria looks

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<v Speaker 2>like whoa all the different sexual transmitted infections.

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<v Speaker 3>Like actual images, like photos, not just illustrations.

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<v Speaker 1>Private school is different.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to pick the field that I die on

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<v Speaker 2>Travis School.

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<v Speaker 1>Private school is dear friend, I can imagine too.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's a class you would have taken

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<v Speaker 3>seriously because I think that it was maybe in third

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<v Speaker 3>that we weren't taking it seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>So we didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like, yeah, girls, now, I know that you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to listen to this, but and so we

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<v Speaker 3>just acted accordingly. And I'm sure at the time there

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<v Speaker 3>would have been active teenagers in the class. But even so,

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<v Speaker 3>I just felt like, do you know what it reminded

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<v Speaker 3>me of. It reminded me of going to UNI and

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<v Speaker 3>having my lecture would be like, well.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all theory.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll learn the practical stuff when you are in the workforce. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of what what sex lit felt like. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all theory and you'll know what you need to

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<v Speaker 3>know when you're out there getting it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally getting near it, getting near it definitely definitely theory.

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<v Speaker 2>When I had sex lit, I was very far away

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<v Speaker 2>from doing anything, but my friends weren't so it was

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<v Speaker 2>good to like corroborate with them. So is this really

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<v Speaker 2>how it goes? Yeah, they tell me yes or no.

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<v Speaker 2>A bit scary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was the gossip that hearsay, here's how and

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<v Speaker 3>do you really like Yeah, yeah, definitely. And everyone was

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<v Speaker 3>always so enthusiastic and definitely like, oh yeah, that's definitely

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<v Speaker 3>how it goes. Nobody would ever say that's not how

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<v Speaker 3>it goes, or I don't know what I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>or like I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>What that is. You have to feign it. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to feign it. That's too much.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, good news is Heartbreak High comes out tonight only

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<v Speaker 3>on Netflix, and to celebrate the launch of the new series,

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<v Speaker 3>Netflix is inviting all of us to the Heartbreak High

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<v Speaker 3>Uniform Shop. It's open only this Saturday and Sunday at

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<v Speaker 3>five twenty King Street, Newtown, Sydney. Go there, get some threads,

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<v Speaker 3>meet some people, reminisce on the good old days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to have a bit of a flashback Friday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>I freemymy old Yes, live in a shond Pisces loves

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<v Speaker 3>a croc and a chicken schnitzel sandwich eaten with a

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<v Speaker 3>knife and fork.

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<v Speaker 1>Say no more. That is my life now.

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<v Speaker 2>I live with one other woman. Her name is Izzy.

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<v Speaker 2>She is single, brown hair.

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<v Speaker 3>What I thought she's in a relationship. Nah, who's the

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<v Speaker 3>ones I've got a boyfriend recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Eliza my bestie. Okay, easy, I live with her

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<v Speaker 2>another bestI of easy Isa.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I say she's single because we're both very eligible

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<v Speaker 2>and it's nice to put it out in.

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<v Speaker 1>The oph Yeah, of course me too, Me too, And

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<v Speaker 1>don't you forget it? Are we gonna tell a friend

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<v Speaker 1>when we become coupled?

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<v Speaker 3>No, okay, I'm doing the big reveal. What I got

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<v Speaker 3>something to show for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I've been questioning.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw someone on your Instagram story the other day,

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<v Speaker 2>but it must have been a woman, but also no

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<v Speaker 2>shaded if it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a man, we do a soft launch anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I say this to say me and my housemate's us

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<v Speaker 2>two together, and I get a bit lonely at night. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a loneliness that is subliminal. For example, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure if this is related, but I've been struggling to

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<v Speaker 2>get to sleep lately. My throat is closing over. I

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<v Speaker 2>still haven't gone to the bottom of that.

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<v Speaker 1>We should figure it out, like as a priority. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like that for you, it's really gross.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought maybe a stop gap is to sleep

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<v Speaker 2>with somebody. So last night cooked for ravioli with my housemates.

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<v Speaker 2>Good into compensation, Yeah it was. I said, do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to sleep in my bed tonight? We should have

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<v Speaker 2>a sleepover, like get all giddy and excited, and she said.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we' She was receptive. Yeah, She's like, yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So she slept in my bed last night, brought her

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<v Speaker 2>own pillows in. I slept like a baby, really.

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<v Speaker 1>To the point where I want to tell her sleep

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<v Speaker 1>my bed again. Should we just do this.

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<v Speaker 3>You to reduce her rent for that she's putting in

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<v Speaker 3>work in her own house.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was great and she got a good sleep too.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that is, because I'm one of

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<v Speaker 3>those people who doesn't sleep well next to someone because.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a log and I'm out right.

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<v Speaker 3>But I didn't know I was a light sleeper until

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<v Speaker 3>I would find myself irritated by someone moving or shaking

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<v Speaker 3>or adjusting the blanket. It all just feels contrary to

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<v Speaker 3>what I need, which is stillness, silence, and consistency of temperature,

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<v Speaker 3>of movement of noise. You can't have that with someone there.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm glad it's working for you. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>interesting how you were able to I guess like phrase

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<v Speaker 3>it in a way that wasn't It sounds strange, but

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<v Speaker 3>I guess like she was keen, so it's not strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's no tension there, simply vive. So what

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna do it again?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm going to try and convince her nightly once

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<v Speaker 2>a week night before I set over at my other

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend's house, slipping in her bed.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's going to happen though through me? When you develop?

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<v Speaker 3>Because clearly now that you're aware that when you are

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<v Speaker 3>sleeping alone it's feeling difficult or whatever, we deduce that

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<v Speaker 3>when there's someone else in the bed it's helpful for you.

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<v Speaker 3>But will you build a tolerance where right now it's

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<v Speaker 3>slightly difficult to sleep alone? But what if you never

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<v Speaker 3>can do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to find a partner or a chuaba. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a dog will help. Yeah, I think it would.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot, babe, But I love hearing it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms on Kada.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately for you know, women, the gender pay gap has

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<v Speaker 3>increased in the last six months. It was thirteen point

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<v Speaker 3>eight percent and now it's fourteen point one percent. So

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<v Speaker 3>what that means is that a.

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<v Speaker 1>Full time male will earn.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighteen hundred and seventy dollars and ninety per cents as

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to a full time working woman will earn sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and nine dollars. That's a difference of two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and sixty foot dollars a week. And we have to

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<v Speaker 3>remind ourselves that the gender pay gap is not referring

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<v Speaker 3>to men and women being paid differently for the same job. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the difference between average earnings between men and women.

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<v Speaker 3>So rip, let's get our sh money up, girl bosses

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<v Speaker 3>for the win.

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<v Speaker 1>Very so let's start firing. What's that not?

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<v Speaker 2>How is it that we've become becoming more progressive in

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts and vibes and yet the paper is not well?

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<v Speaker 3>This might mean that maybe we aren't becoming more progressive

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<v Speaker 3>in thoughts and vibes. It's a sham, it's smoking mirrors.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good for optics, but not in practicality.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very upsetting.

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<v Speaker 3>For now, it's not great but we'll keep a close

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<v Speaker 3>eye on it. Thank goodness for the Daily US for

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<v Speaker 3>that piece of news.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Daily Os fans here. It's huge.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want like news that's easy to digest, that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to sift through a bunch of words

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<v Speaker 3>to get to like the nuggets, I would recommend them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's on Instagram too, so didn't need to type anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and froomes on Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The kind of news I like is the kind that

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<v Speaker 3>is almost like watercooler talk, like you don't need to

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<v Speaker 3>know that all the details, but it's something I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to tell the next person you interact with.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear about so and so?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened? So?

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<v Speaker 3>Heather Morris, who you might remember as the blonde girl

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<v Speaker 3>from Glee Cheerleader but Yes, was on a podcast recently

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<v Speaker 3>and her and the co host were having a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a chin wag about Virgo season, and that

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<v Speaker 3>reminded Heather that she has this amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Story to tell about Virgos. Right, love it? What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>She recalled being at an audition for Jlo and Jello's

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<v Speaker 3>been in the press a lot recently because I guess

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<v Speaker 3>you know, she's getting remarried to Ben Affleck. They were

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<v Speaker 3>together once before and now twenty years later, their bag

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<v Speaker 3>it's really like cute and amazing or whatever. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>she has this like hot sip and I'm oster Dome.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I don't know if I would share this,

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<v Speaker 3>Like if I had some juicy goss about one of

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<v Speaker 3>our industry peers, I would.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep that off the record. Shit with me, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>off the record.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I'm not like I would gossip with you,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll keep coming back to it for weeks at

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<v Speaker 3>a time. But this is like to the world anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>and Jennifer is definitely gonna see this anyway. So Heather

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<v Speaker 3>says she's at this dance audition, and she explains how like,

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<v Speaker 3>most of the time at a dance audition, you're not

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<v Speaker 3>getting paid to be there, and you've been there since

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<v Speaker 3>ten am learning the choreography. You're auditioning until six pm.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a long, arduous day. You're feeling judged, you're feeling stressed.

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<v Speaker 3>You are, you know, among your enemies essentially, because if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't get the job they do, it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>So what happens is Jalo walks in the room at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day when auditions are about to start,

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<v Speaker 3>and says, and I quote, well this is a paraphrase

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<v Speaker 3>from the experience, but she walks in the room and says,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you so much. You guys work so hard. And

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<v Speaker 3>by shell of hands, if there are any virgos in

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<v Speaker 3>the room, can you please raise your hand?

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<v Speaker 1>So naturally they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yes, wearying, So the virgos reveal themselves and then

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<v Speaker 3>Heather explains that Jlo whispered something to her assistant, looks

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<v Speaker 3>at the group, then thanks them for coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was the end of the road for them.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it.

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<v Speaker 3>Point blank, You're done. You're done. Imagine the scenario. You've

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<v Speaker 3>been breaking your back learning choreography. Jalo's just walked in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time to show her what you've achieved. And she's like, yep,

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<v Speaker 3>pans up, virgos, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, the road is done. The road is done.

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<v Speaker 3>And then like hand to heart, the palm to heart,

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<v Speaker 3>the sincerity that one hits different and they had to leave.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think it's pretty terrifying to think. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it is discrimination. Unfortunately, when you are segregating a group

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<v Speaker 3>based on something that they can't change, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>the basis of why they're not able to work. Textbook discrimination, like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not good, should be a lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 3>Granted this was a bajillion years ago. Well I'm imagining

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<v Speaker 3>it was like back in the days when Jaylo was touring.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say it was ten years ago, twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Times have change. I don't think that could happen.

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<v Speaker 3>But then the Devil's advocate in me is like, if

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<v Speaker 3>she's paying them, why can't she say who she wants

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<v Speaker 3>to not work with.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I had some time to think about what issue Jayla

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<v Speaker 3>would have against Virgo's broadly enough to remove all of

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<v Speaker 3>them from the room. And then I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>let me do some googles about her exes, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>a good place to start.

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<v Speaker 1>If usually when people think strongly.

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<v Speaker 3>About a star side, it's because they've had a negative

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<v Speaker 3>experience with them close up. So I'd be a parent,

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<v Speaker 3>a sibling, or an ex and in this instance, Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony her ex husband Virgo and she's probably like what

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<v Speaker 3>they take that for years, like a decade plus, so

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<v Speaker 3>like she had like a one on one time with

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<v Speaker 3>a Virgo. Maybe she recognized the traits were so traditionally quintessentially,

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<v Speaker 3>virgo wasn't going to risk it, wasn't going to risk it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I did some googles for your benefit, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>for me and anyone else who's not across Star signs

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<v Speaker 3>on broadly, what are like positive traits and the negative traits?

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<v Speaker 3>So we know so virgos are generally logical, hardworking, artistic, observant, faithful, kind, patient, responsible, reliable, modest.

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<v Speaker 3>The negative traits is that virgos are allegedly ruminative, critical, stubborn, uptight,

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<v Speaker 3>worried people pleasing, frustrated, easily, overly, independent, irritable.

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<v Speaker 2>And picking it sounds like you shut it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they go to my chart just like an areage

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of water. My areas is like ready to

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<v Speaker 3>fight all time. My water's like everyone needs to leave

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<v Speaker 3>me alone so I can cry in peace, vulnerable. You're

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<v Speaker 3>ruining my vibe. My vibe is precious. Areas is like

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<v Speaker 3>fuck those people fight them anyway. So I'm like, okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in two minds about it, right. I think often

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<v Speaker 3>we don't look at the arts like real jobs, and

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<v Speaker 3>so we allow she like this to fly very easily.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh, well, they're dancers, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>she's a celebrity and she's allowed to have preferences and whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But in a traditional sense, if you're applying for a

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<v Speaker 3>regular quote unquote job, a traditional job, and at the

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<v Speaker 3>group interview, they said, okay, all the pisces please stand up. Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you so much. As the end of the road

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<v Speaker 3>for you, be like, no, it's not gonna fly. You

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<v Speaker 3>go straight to Twitter? Yeah, will you go to the

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<v Speaker 3>City Morning Herald?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I think based truly.

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<v Speaker 3>Like this can't happen. You're discriminating me on the basis

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<v Speaker 3>something I can't change.

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<v Speaker 1>It would not fly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean this is just a really obvious example

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<v Speaker 2>of something that happens often, Isn't it isn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is not an obvious example. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>cooked one, but I feel like people are. The general

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<v Speaker 3>consensus has been like it's a funny joke, like ha haha,

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<v Speaker 3>virgas is so hard to work with. But I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you take that out and you replace it

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<v Speaker 3>with any kind of minority, like okay, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 3>it's over. We can't do that. We can't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I was thinking like Okay, great, we know

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<v Speaker 3>the qualities are the people that she refuses to work with.

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<v Speaker 3>What about you, If you could only pick five people

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<v Speaker 3>to work with you for the rest of your life,

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<v Speaker 3>what qualities do they have to have and what qualities

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<v Speaker 3>would rule someone out?

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<v Speaker 1>Point blank?

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<v Speaker 2>Period Number one would be full understanding of pop culture

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<v Speaker 2>and what's happening. I need to be around people that

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<v Speaker 2>know what's going on. For example, Eliza and Madison, my

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<v Speaker 2>two best friends, abreast of everything. Yeah, they know more

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<v Speaker 2>than I know, and therefore we can talk and they

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<v Speaker 2>get where I'm coming from. They need to have an

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<v Speaker 2>understanding of my vision and my mission so often they

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<v Speaker 2>need to be someone who's been friends with me for

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<v Speaker 2>over five years to see where I came from.

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<v Speaker 1>Where I'm going Big one to Big one.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to work with somebody who is willing to

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<v Speaker 2>have hard conversations because I'm very much like I say,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm m Karen.

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<v Speaker 1>Something's bugging me, I'm going to bring it up.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to be like a receptive to it

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<v Speaker 2>and not get upset because I'm willing to be I'm

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<v Speaker 2>willing to get feedback as well. I have chosen I've

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<v Speaker 2>worked with before and people that I've enjoyed working with

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<v Speaker 2>are people that have a sense of humor obviously, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Like respect my vision.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we needs to work for a publication, and I'd

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<v Speaker 2>work with a videographer to just be us two Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Coles who both worked with his dog. He listens to

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<v Speaker 2>everything that I want and goes through whatever I want,

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<v Speaker 2>but also injects his own flavor in a low key way.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like working with people who are dominant for

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<v Speaker 2>no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave that to me. There's only one big Doug in

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<v Speaker 1>this room.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a tricky one to that point, because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you kind of choose who you work with

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<v Speaker 3>in some sense, but then you reckon with the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that you can't have it all right, Like they can

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<v Speaker 3>be creative, but then they suck on emails or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it might be. But if I had to pick, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's the five people I'm working with for the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of my life, I would say that everybody needs to

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<v Speaker 3>have a specialty in something. It needs to be their thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's a bit contradictory to how I

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<v Speaker 3>like to shop in the world, being like a multidisciplinary

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<v Speaker 3>person or I'm like I want to do everything a

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<v Speaker 3>multi hyphen now, bit of this, bit of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's my job. That's my job.

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<v Speaker 3>As for you, pick a skill and do it well.

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<v Speaker 3>Be a marketer, be really great at finance, be really academic,

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of cultural context, be culturally sensitive, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it might be. But you need a thing that you

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<v Speaker 3>can champion. I feel like ambiguity is like the death

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<v Speaker 3>of progress sometimes because if you don't know what you

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<v Speaker 3>are good or not good at, then you can't really

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<v Speaker 3>get a lot done. That's number one. Number two I

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<v Speaker 3>would think it's someone who I always refer to. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like like good house training. Like some people you just

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<v Speaker 3>can't take places because they just don't understand optics and

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<v Speaker 3>they can't like code switch.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't badly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, things they can't like adjust based on the environment.

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<v Speaker 3>It's to surprise them every time. And I think in

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<v Speaker 3>when the stakes are low, it's fine, but there are

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<v Speaker 3>too many situations where it's like, of course you don't

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<v Speaker 3>like that person, Babe, we're in a work environment. Put

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<v Speaker 3>on a smile, please please, or you know, of course

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<v Speaker 3>that client is annoying. It doesn't matter right now, like

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<v Speaker 3>be polite.

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<v Speaker 1>Things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't really teach someone because it's like you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>get it, or you get it or you don't. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like people who are raised in a household where your

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<v Speaker 3>mum would invite over her friends that you did not like,

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<v Speaker 3>but you'd be like, hey, missus whatever, Yeah, it's so

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<v Speaker 3>great to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a skill on the phone to grandparents.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I hate it so much, oh so big, so

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<v Speaker 3>frush up. And that's a really big one for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Good vibe And this is such a tricky one because

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<v Speaker 3>I think that like everybody assumes.

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<v Speaker 1>They know what a good vibe is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mean always on, I don't mean always optimistic,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mean always extroverted, but recognizing that the vibe

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<v Speaker 3>is something that needs to be adjusted, and it needs

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<v Speaker 3>to be tended too frequently. Like a fire, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>just leave it there and assume it's going to keep blazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring the wood.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you say about people running around to try and

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<v Speaker 2>find the best party, Yes, become the party exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have this theory about parties and partying and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a very Sydney thing to lament the environment.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing happening.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not good running around hoping that the next venue

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<v Speaker 3>you go to will provide the party for you, not

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<v Speaker 3>recognizing that it's to you, bab.

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<v Speaker 1>The party is the some of the guests. So what

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<v Speaker 1>are you bringing to the energy.

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<v Speaker 3>You can create a party just too. Sally and I

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<v Speaker 3>are always the party when we go up, because we like,

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<v Speaker 3>we are here to enjoy. Okay, if there are games

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<v Speaker 3>being played, we're playing them, Conversations being had we're having them,

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<v Speaker 3>drinks being shared, we're buying them. It's necessary be a

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<v Speaker 3>good vibers like it.

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<v Speaker 1>And also.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing that I look that I only can

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<v Speaker 3>just put my finger on now is people who are

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<v Speaker 3>naturally empathetic because so much about what you have to

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<v Speaker 3>do in a work sense is just relating to other

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<v Speaker 3>people and understanding their perspective and knowing how to tread carefully.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm a bulldog. We can't all do what little does.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not helpful. But if you have other people around

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<v Speaker 3>you who are like, wait, this is a better approach.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a calma approach, this is a nicer approach.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like help necessary, lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, if you're looking for a job at Flex

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<v Speaker 2>Mummy Incorporated, don't come for.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, send it a CV. Please send a link.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't just send well wishes in the DMS.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dear, you're listening to flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Flexie as you know, as my co host, I have

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<v Speaker 2>Karen Rising. Yeah, I have a high pitched voice that's

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<v Speaker 2>ready to come out when i'm disrespected.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you're thirty years older, you would be perceived

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<v Speaker 3>as a Karen even before you started speaking one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundred percent, which is okay, it's fine. I'm fine with

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<v Speaker 2>it because then you can surprise people that you're not

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<v Speaker 2>a Karen though you know that really isn't in my.

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<v Speaker 1>E it's not your story.

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<v Speaker 2>I was walking around Centennial Park this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you familiar with it?

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<v Speaker 3>Gorgeous, huge, it's like a dog park, a wedding park, botanical,

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<v Speaker 3>botanical Guiden type vibe with not enough flowers near Sydney City.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going for a trot with my friend and

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<v Speaker 2>around the Inner Ring.

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<v Speaker 1>It's where horses go. It's also a horse park with

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<v Speaker 1>pop at all. Oh yeah, it's one big circular park.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, so the in its is the grasslands. Then

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<v Speaker 3>there's a big road that's shared by cars, bicycles, horses,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you know an outer an out of shrubbery yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you're at the roads, the main roads. That's

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what it is. I highly recommend you go and

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<v Speaker 3>visit it. When if you're in the Sydney area.

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<v Speaker 2>Walking past and I'm seeing dog pooh everywhere and horse

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<v Speaker 2>poo and I'm feeling a bit yuck about it, I

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<v Speaker 2>was sorry. My crocs are like very tread heavy. You

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 2>can wash them because they're rubber. Yeah, that's still. And

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<v Speaker 2>it reminded me of this time I was.

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<v Speaker 1>In Melbourne with my mum.

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<v Speaker 2>We walked past this woman with the dog. The dog

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<v Speaker 2>did a pooh and we're waiting like this one's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pick it up, doesn't pick it up. My mum is

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<v Speaker 2>a Karen. Oh, like I said the first time, you

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<v Speaker 2>revealed it subtle Karen, what is a subtle caron?

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<v Speaker 1>Like in this instance, she wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>To ask the woman why she didn't pick it up. Okay, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>the woman walks another ten meters, the dog does it again,

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't pick it up. And this is on a

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<v Speaker 2>sidewalk with high foot traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>So busy, busy, busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so I'm trying to step in it and

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<v Speaker 2>my mum was ready to sound off.

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<v Speaker 1>Just raging. Do you have it bad? My mum was

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<v Speaker 1>ready to sound off. Excuse me, that's how the Karen operates.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, But it's got me thinking, like I

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<v Speaker 2>still remember that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Should have we said something?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't end up saying anything? No, I told mom

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<v Speaker 1>you can't you know, I can't be saying you silenced her,

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<v Speaker 1>You censored her? What would you do well? In this instance.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm big on picking my battles because I am a

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<v Speaker 3>confrontational person, but I don't care fundamentally, So in that instance,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, the right thing to do would meant to

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<v Speaker 3>pick up the dog pooh, But you didn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>The right thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, Like people don't do the right thing all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Why am I now going to take on the burden

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<v Speaker 3>that you should have took on. There's not my business.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me keep going right. In some instances, though, if

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<v Speaker 3>it was actively affecting me, I would do something. I

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<v Speaker 3>try not to be a warrior for conceptual causes. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>like a dog owner should know what to do. If

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<v Speaker 3>she's choosing to do the wrong thing, then like that's

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<v Speaker 3>the hill she's going to die on. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think me a stranger reprimanding her in that instance, it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the kick.

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<v Speaker 1>That she needed.

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<v Speaker 3>Had she been my friend in my inner circle and acquaintance,

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<v Speaker 3>I knew would prefer to say something.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was my friend, I'd be letting it go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be cackling with them and just bush saying, who's

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<v Speaker 2>going to step in it?

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<v Speaker 3>See I'm different. I'm like, I think about the knock

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<v Speaker 3>on the knock on effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't change the world, right, Like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>that me telling a stranger how to be is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the thing that changes their life. But I

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<v Speaker 3>can impact my inner circle, my family, my friends, my community,

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<v Speaker 3>these people, the people that follow me on Instagram, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I can definitely do my work there. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>if everybody felt that way, like you, you are responsible

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<v Speaker 3>for the people that are in your like web. Right,

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 3>she was in my web, So I'm like whatever, and

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<v Speaker 3>walking down the street, you deal with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice blend you with those boundaries.

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<v Speaker 3>So what would you do in future, like now that

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<v Speaker 3>you are about to be a dog owner? That is

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<v Speaker 3>your community dog owners?

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<v Speaker 1>It is it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Look I say this often. If I didn't do what

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<v Speaker 2>I'd do for work, I'd be a ravaging beasts telling

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<v Speaker 2>people off. But unfortunately I can't do that. That stuff

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 2>backfires these days.

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<v Speaker 1>These days, so act to the good old days. Yeah,

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>to do what you want, say what you want, go.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to being like I was a Karen before I

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<v Speaker 2>even Carrent existed, and that's when it was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more acceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>But now we've been put in to line for better

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<v Speaker 1>or less.

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<v Speaker 3>There are definitely scenarios where I'm like, in publicum like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not my business, but I'll make it. Like if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm seeing like abuse someone like yelling really hectically or

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<v Speaker 3>being rude to like.

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<v Speaker 1>A cashier, I'll say something.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I've been waiting my whole life for this. I

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 3>was raised by Liz for this. It hits my heart.

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 3>I'll do something about it. I'm not a pet person,

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.479
<v Speaker 3>so I'm like, it's like if you spat your gum out,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you shouldn't have done that. But if you've

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 3>done it, now, what am I going to do about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly the same damn flecks and fruits.

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.719
<v Speaker 2>A few days ago, I was wearing a tracksuit pan

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<v Speaker 2>here it was Pangaea.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think maybe in my head,

0:28:58.360 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 3>I say Pangayer.

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>But it's probably Pangaya to be fair, I don't know,

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 2>could be either. Anyway, I was wearing that tracksuit sustainably made,

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 2>very beautiful fabric, and I'd curled it up at.

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>The top like you folded in the waist, folded.

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<v Speaker 2>In the waistban I'm like, And then I had this flashback,

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:18.959
<v Speaker 2>this like physical sensation flashback of being in school and

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<v Speaker 2>curling my shorts, my trackies, my skirts.

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, feral behavior.

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 2>And we're also on the Flex and Frome's Heartbreak high

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 2>set today. So we're sitting in front of these books,

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>these tables, bells, phones, and it's got me reminiscing about

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 2>certain fashion and lifestyle choices we made in our high

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 2>school years. Other things I did. I want to know

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<v Speaker 2>if this was a happening thing in New South Wales. Yeah,

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm Victoria Country Road Duffel Bags.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, And I actually think that was so premium,

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't think I don't even think I got

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 3>the Country Road one. I couldn't afford. I got the

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 3>sports go on. I think it was like twenty bucks less,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe thirty bucks. I think it was like forty, and

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<v Speaker 3>the Country Read one was sixty I'm gonna say maybe

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 3>even eighty. Yeah, but I was a sports girl and

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<v Speaker 3>I had the red one with.

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>The rainbow handle.

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 3>You know how it is, I did.

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I was traded to a country road one at one

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<v Speaker 2>point I got the denim with the black straps.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa, it was vibe. You have been a material girl.

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 3>They don't make like you anymore, can they really don't.

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>What else do you remember doing in high school? Stylistically?

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 3>I remember wearing Doc Martins a lot, but it was

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 3>that was a very rebellious thing to do because everyone's

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 3>wearing dunblops, Volleys, ballet shoes. That was a big one.

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 3>But I was trying to project like a miss. I'm

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 3>an anarchist. I need the skaters to love me. I'm

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 3>putting in work, right. The real work happens at the

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 3>bus stops three fifteen, Yes, but it's what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>At the bus stop at my school. There were all

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<v Speaker 2>these buses that would come through the school to pick

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<v Speaker 2>us up. And I was at Stop J, which went

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<v Speaker 2>to Mount Waverley, Glenn Waverley and the southeastern suburbs surrounds.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, you'd be standing there with your ipoddy curls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the skirt. Be serious.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got my hat off, which you had to wear

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<v Speaker 2>your had after school, but I've taken it off and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm vibing dream Matt Moosea.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I didn't do it. I didn't do that, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have my color? Is that trauma? I don't know. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a big one.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, I didn't partake in this, but there was a

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<v Speaker 3>subset of women in my year and above who would

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<v Speaker 3>wear pacifiers like dummies around their neck and then suck

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<v Speaker 3>them during class.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear down.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a whole thing that coincided with when people

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<v Speaker 3>would wear there's really tiny kids bags like cartoon characters

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<v Speaker 3>Disney under it. I would wear in that same era,

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing Doc Muntons and a Champion bags. There's

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<v Speaker 3>like a little tiny then no books can fit in this,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, it's the bags for aesthetic. Then you

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<v Speaker 3>carry you a folder because you're studious.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I had a lunch box, Oh I was?

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<v Speaker 2>I was?

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<v Speaker 1>Who was packing my lunchbox? Obviously my mum? See this.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't relate to girl spoiled little brat rodabuster school,

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<v Speaker 2>but often like the take to school.

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<v Speaker 1>With mummy's car.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa mummy daddy drive to school, me won't sleep in

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<v Speaker 2>whoa other things that I loved Snapchat, see.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. I don't remember using Snapchat, used BBO.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember hearts a lot showing your age, babe. Also, while

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking, I just did my b reel. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've still got it. We may referateing the be real

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<v Speaker 1>has occurred. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, high school was a weird one. Honestly, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you miss it?

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<v Speaker 1>Be honest with us. You're a liar enough. I've already

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<v Speaker 1>made fun of you once before. You're on edge. I

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<v Speaker 1>know what you want. We're done here. You peaked in

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<v Speaker 1>high school. You want to go back. You have fond memories.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that you know how far down your feet

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<v Speaker 3>to scroll to find high school relics is beyond it.

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<v Speaker 1>I could probably from memory. I see that my face

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<v Speaker 1>would tag. Actually, you've been listening to the Flex and

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<v Speaker 1>Frooms Daily podcast.

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