Speaker 1: The Flex and Rooms Daily podcast. Hey we're back. It's
Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: Today we're going to be talking about j LO. Jennifer Lopez,
Speaker 2: now known as Jennifer A. Fleck changed her name. I'm
Speaker 2: unsure of that, but also it's her prerogative. It's her choice.
Speaker 2: FLEXI will be changing your last name even when you
Speaker 2: get married.
Speaker 3: If it sounds good like my initials at LA currently,
Speaker 3: you can't really get any better than that. But if
Speaker 3: it rolls with the tongue, it's tricky. Because my name's Lillian,
Speaker 3: it doesn't like Lillian Price. Oh oh, if I had
Speaker 3: a brother, that's not bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a brother.
Speaker 2: I could be Listender Henkenhi, that's giving strong.
Speaker 3: People think I'm German because of my last name, and
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think that if you had that
Speaker 3: last name, they think you're German too.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even tell you you've never heard of it.
Speaker 2: Pretty cool and unique. I'm not going to change my
Speaker 2: name purely because my name is Litender Price.
Speaker 3: It's a great name, isn't it sounds good? I mean
Speaker 3: some people have names that are worth changing. It's either
Speaker 3: it's not flowing, it's not memorable. It's just not giving.
Speaker 3: If you're going to do the paperwork, I would change
Speaker 3: both names, like I would add if I'm changing my surname,
Speaker 3: I'm making flex my legal name yep, Lilian Flex. Maybe
Speaker 3: I'd hyphenate it or whatever. Then I'd add in a
Speaker 3: middle name for flavor.
Speaker 2: Like then.
Speaker 1: Give me something to work with, babes, give us something Rose.
Speaker 3: Aurora, something nice, you know. And then I don't know
Speaker 3: if I would fully change my name. We've got a hyphenate, babe,
Speaker 3: you change your name, husband, he'll change.
Speaker 2: Well, this is what I'm thinking. Middle name Froomes. Obviously
Speaker 2: I don't need to legally change that. Anyone wondering I
Speaker 2: do get the DM every month makes me realize that
Speaker 2: you don't really care about me, because if you did,
Speaker 2: you'd know my middle name's friends. I'm going to name
Speaker 2: my child Heath Froomes Price after your mum.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's sweet.
Speaker 2: You got to keep the Frooms in the name because
Speaker 2: obviously it's going to die out. My sister and I
Speaker 2: the only Frooms left in the whole world.
Speaker 1: Well, there was Paul Frooms. I did google him.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, not related though. If you're not giving me
Speaker 2: an inheritance, were.
Speaker 3: Not related anyway, today's episode.
Speaker 1: You're only gonna have a boy child. I don't want
Speaker 1: a boy child. But you're gonna name You're gonna name
Speaker 1: her Heath. I'm gonna name her. Give me a sec. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think I've.
Speaker 2: Told you this Rosie and Ellie, because I told my
Speaker 2: grandma told you this year. No, I told my grandma
Speaker 2: when I have a baby, I'm gonna have purple hair
Speaker 2: and name my kids Rosy and Ellie.
Speaker 1: I see that's so clear. I'm not gonna be a ballerina, obviously.
Speaker 1: I see it so clearly. I believe you.
Speaker 2: Ellie and Rose though, like they're not my favorite names.
Speaker 2: I do love Ellie, but like it's very common.
Speaker 3: I like floral names, but again they've been done. And
Speaker 3: don't you want a unique kid?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you give him a bit of a complex.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call my kid Remington. You call him Remmy.
Speaker 2: Remington is a brand of appliance flax.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about.
Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna continue my mom's like colonizer name thing
Speaker 3: you got Max?
Speaker 2: Sorry, Remington is like rim job. What I'm just giving
Speaker 2: room job? Anyway, continue, we need like.
Speaker 3: A bow bizarre And then I'd call him Billy or something,
Speaker 3: give him like interest flavor, and then his middle night
Speaker 3: would be like rex Pyro Pyro, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1: Isn't that like pyromaniac?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I remember like one of my old bosses, her
Speaker 3: kid's name is Jet and I was like, thank you
Speaker 3: for adding some slavor into this kid's life.
Speaker 1: She was big in two thousand and four. Probably that
Speaker 1: feels like the age of the Kid and the band.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go on with the show with one final thing. Okay,
Speaker 2: you see trends, and as a parent, I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 2: don't you want to go against the trend?
Speaker 1: Or is that me having a god complex? What is
Speaker 1: the trend?
Speaker 2: Right? Like? The trend is like yeah, things like Remington
Speaker 2: and like Earnest and y and yeat, Like, leave my king.
Speaker 1: Out of this.
Speaker 3: Either way, it's gonna have a classical name that's good
Speaker 3: for optics, a feral name that's just the fun joke
Speaker 3: that's taken too far, Like call him him Steggles, that's
Speaker 3: my king.
Speaker 1: Never like is that your real name? Yeah, my mum's
Speaker 1: really cool Ingham Chicken. I'll call him Remington's Pigeon Pattinson.
Speaker 2: Okay, enough, Tom Foller, let's get into the podcast.
Speaker 3: Flicks and today we are celebrating the launch of Netflix's
Speaker 3: brand news show Heartbreak High Wow. It is what it
Speaker 3: sounds like, high school based series, but it's from an
Speaker 3: Australian perspective because everybody is in it is Australian and
Speaker 3: not in like a weirdly stereotypically like. I don't resonate
Speaker 3: with this at all. It's cool, I really I'm liking
Speaker 3: the vibe of it.
Speaker 2: Directed by Graciotto, a great young Australian director.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3: And to celebrate that, we're talking all things high school now. Yes,
Speaker 3: we're a couple of years out of it, not too many,
Speaker 3: not too much now I'm twenty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but a couple.
Speaker 3: But not too much. We can't reflect on what that
Speaker 3: was like for us now. In particular, I want to
Speaker 3: talk about sex. It's a huge theme in the show. Naturally,
Speaker 3: it probably is the cornerstone of what happens. Look, let
Speaker 3: me not give anything away. I don't know anything, but
Speaker 3: I have read a few spoiler articles. But I was
Speaker 3: thinking about what we did or did not learn in
Speaker 3: sex lit the class with theyre supposedly meant to tell
Speaker 3: you all about the birds and the bees and what
Speaker 3: you are meant to do and I'm not meant to do.
Speaker 3: But I don't recall receiving anything quite helpful, did you?
Speaker 1: Honestly?
Speaker 2: The only thing that I remember is very stereotypical, and
Speaker 2: sometimes I wonder if I just made it up?
Speaker 1: Is year nine learning how to put a condom them?
Speaker 1: Oh the banana thing? I feel the same way. Did
Speaker 1: that really happen? Or do we make it up? Do
Speaker 1: it yourself? Yeah? I never once have put a condom
Speaker 1: on anything. It's not my job. What on anything? It's
Speaker 1: not my job. Have you ever tried to do it?
Speaker 1: It's not my favorite task. It's not really ever done it.
Speaker 1: And I do I have because safe sex is the
Speaker 1: best sex.
Speaker 3: Putting a little ferret Okay, not too much? Sorry, sorry,
Speaker 3: but yeah that's a big thing, because let's push that
Speaker 3: to the side. Then if we don't recall whether or
Speaker 3: not we were taught how to put on a condom,
Speaker 3: then what did we learn. I do remember the rhetoric
Speaker 3: that if you have sex you will get pregnant or
Speaker 3: an STI that was a given number one. And also
Speaker 3: sex is what parents do.
Speaker 2: I got the slideshow of this is what Gonneria looks
Speaker 2: like whoa all the different sexual transmitted infections.
Speaker 3: Like actual images, like photos, not just illustrations.
Speaker 1: Private school is different.
Speaker 2: That's going to pick the field that I die on
Speaker 2: Travis School.
Speaker 1: Private school is dear friend, I can imagine too.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a class you would have taken
Speaker 3: seriously because I think that it was maybe in third
Speaker 3: that we weren't taking it seriously.
Speaker 1: So we didn't.
Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, girls, now, I know that you
Speaker 3: don't want to listen to this, but and so we
Speaker 3: just acted accordingly. And I'm sure at the time there
Speaker 3: would have been active teenagers in the class. But even so,
Speaker 3: I just felt like, do you know what it reminded
Speaker 3: me of. It reminded me of going to UNI and
Speaker 3: having my lecture would be like, well.
Speaker 1: This is all theory.
Speaker 3: You'll learn the practical stuff when you are in the workforce. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's kind of what what sex lit felt like. You know,
Speaker 3: it's all theory and you'll know what you need to
Speaker 3: know when you're out there getting it in.
Speaker 2: Totally getting near it, getting near it definitely definitely theory.
Speaker 2: When I had sex lit, I was very far away
Speaker 2: from doing anything, but my friends weren't so it was
Speaker 2: good to like corroborate with them. So is this really
Speaker 2: how it goes? Yeah, they tell me yes or no.
Speaker 2: A bit scary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the gossip that hearsay, here's how and
Speaker 3: do you really like Yeah, yeah, definitely. And everyone was
Speaker 3: always so enthusiastic and definitely like, oh yeah, that's definitely
Speaker 3: how it goes. Nobody would ever say that's not how
Speaker 3: it goes, or I don't know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 3: or like I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: What that is. You have to feign it. You have
Speaker 1: to feign it. That's too much.
Speaker 3: Well, good news is Heartbreak High comes out tonight only
Speaker 3: on Netflix, and to celebrate the launch of the new series,
Speaker 3: Netflix is inviting all of us to the Heartbreak High
Speaker 3: Uniform Shop. It's open only this Saturday and Sunday at
Speaker 3: five twenty King Street, Newtown, Sydney. Go there, get some threads,
Speaker 3: meet some people, reminisce on the good old days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to have a bit of a flashback Friday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: flex and frooms.
Speaker 3: I freemymy old Yes, live in a shond Pisces loves
Speaker 3: a croc and a chicken schnitzel sandwich eaten with a
Speaker 3: knife and fork.
Speaker 1: Say no more. That is my life now.
Speaker 2: I live with one other woman. Her name is Izzy.
Speaker 2: She is single, brown hair.
Speaker 3: What I thought she's in a relationship. Nah, who's the
Speaker 3: ones I've got a boyfriend recently.
Speaker 2: Oh, Eliza my bestie. Okay, easy, I live with her
Speaker 2: another bestI of easy Isa.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe I say she's single because we're both very eligible
Speaker 2: and it's nice to put it out in.
Speaker 1: The oph Yeah, of course me too, Me too, And
Speaker 1: don't you forget it? Are we gonna tell a friend
Speaker 1: when we become coupled?
Speaker 3: No, okay, I'm doing the big reveal. What I got
Speaker 3: something to show for it.
Speaker 1: Because I've been questioning.
Speaker 2: I saw someone on your Instagram story the other day,
Speaker 2: but it must have been a woman, but also no
Speaker 2: shaded if it.
Speaker 1: Was a man, we do a soft launch anyway.
Speaker 2: I say this to say me and my housemate's us
Speaker 2: two together, and I get a bit lonely at night. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's a loneliness that is subliminal. For example, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if this is related, but I've been struggling to
Speaker 2: get to sleep lately. My throat is closing over. I
Speaker 2: still haven't gone to the bottom of that.
Speaker 1: We should figure it out, like as a priority. I
Speaker 1: don't like that for you, it's really gross.
Speaker 2: So I thought maybe a stop gap is to sleep
Speaker 2: with somebody. So last night cooked for ravioli with my housemates.
Speaker 2: Good into compensation, Yeah it was. I said, do you
Speaker 2: want to sleep in my bed tonight? We should have
Speaker 2: a sleepover, like get all giddy and excited, and she said.
Speaker 1: Yeah we' She was receptive. Yeah, She's like, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: So she slept in my bed last night, brought her
Speaker 2: own pillows in. I slept like a baby, really.
Speaker 1: To the point where I want to tell her sleep
Speaker 1: my bed again. Should we just do this.
Speaker 3: You to reduce her rent for that she's putting in
Speaker 3: work in her own house.
Speaker 2: But it was great and she got a good sleep too.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is, because I'm one of
Speaker 3: those people who doesn't sleep well next to someone because.
Speaker 1: I'm a log and I'm out right.
Speaker 3: But I didn't know I was a light sleeper until
Speaker 3: I would find myself irritated by someone moving or shaking
Speaker 3: or adjusting the blanket. It all just feels contrary to
Speaker 3: what I need, which is stillness, silence, and consistency of temperature,
Speaker 3: of movement of noise. You can't have that with someone there.
Speaker 3: But I'm glad it's working for you. I think it's
Speaker 3: interesting how you were able to I guess like phrase
Speaker 3: it in a way that wasn't It sounds strange, but
Speaker 3: I guess like she was keen, so it's not strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's no tension there, simply vive. So what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do it again?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to try and convince her nightly once
Speaker 2: a week night before I set over at my other
Speaker 2: girlfriend's house, slipping in her bed.
Speaker 1: But what's going to happen though through me? When you develop?
Speaker 3: Because clearly now that you're aware that when you are
Speaker 3: sleeping alone it's feeling difficult or whatever, we deduce that
Speaker 3: when there's someone else in the bed it's helpful for you.
Speaker 3: But will you build a tolerance where right now it's
Speaker 3: slightly difficult to sleep alone? But what if you never
Speaker 3: can do it again.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to find a partner or a chuaba. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe a dog will help. Yeah, I think it would.
Speaker 3: That's a lot, babe, But I love hearing it.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms on Kada.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately for you know, women, the gender pay gap has
Speaker 3: increased in the last six months. It was thirteen point
Speaker 3: eight percent and now it's fourteen point one percent. So
Speaker 3: what that means is that a.
Speaker 1: Full time male will earn.
Speaker 3: Eighteen hundred and seventy dollars and ninety per cents as
Speaker 3: opposed to a full time working woman will earn sixteen
Speaker 3: hundred and nine dollars. That's a difference of two hundred
Speaker 3: and sixty foot dollars a week. And we have to
Speaker 3: remind ourselves that the gender pay gap is not referring
Speaker 3: to men and women being paid differently for the same job. No,
Speaker 3: it's the difference between average earnings between men and women.
Speaker 3: So rip, let's get our sh money up, girl bosses
Speaker 3: for the win.
Speaker 1: Very so let's start firing. What's that not?
Speaker 2: How is it that we've become becoming more progressive in
Speaker 2: thoughts and vibes and yet the paper is not well?
Speaker 3: This might mean that maybe we aren't becoming more progressive
Speaker 3: in thoughts and vibes. It's a sham, it's smoking mirrors.
Speaker 3: It's good for optics, but not in practicality.
Speaker 1: It's very upsetting.
Speaker 3: For now, it's not great but we'll keep a close
Speaker 3: eye on it. Thank goodness for the Daily US for
Speaker 3: that piece of news.
Speaker 1: Big Daily Os fans here. It's huge.
Speaker 3: If you want like news that's easy to digest, that
Speaker 3: you don't have to sift through a bunch of words
Speaker 3: to get to like the nuggets, I would recommend them.
Speaker 3: It's on Instagram too, so didn't need to type anything else.
Speaker 1: This is flex and froomes on Now.
Speaker 3: The kind of news I like is the kind that
Speaker 3: is almost like watercooler talk, like you don't need to
Speaker 3: know that all the details, but it's something I'm going
Speaker 3: to tell the next person you interact with.
Speaker 1: Did you hear about so and so?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: What happened? So?
Speaker 3: Heather Morris, who you might remember as the blonde girl
Speaker 3: from Glee Cheerleader but Yes, was on a podcast recently
Speaker 3: and her and the co host were having a little
Speaker 3: bit of a chin wag about Virgo season, and that
Speaker 3: reminded Heather that she has this amazing.
Speaker 1: Story to tell about Virgos. Right, love it? What is it?
Speaker 3: She recalled being at an audition for Jlo and Jello's
Speaker 3: been in the press a lot recently because I guess
Speaker 3: you know, she's getting remarried to Ben Affleck. They were
Speaker 3: together once before and now twenty years later, their bag
Speaker 3: it's really like cute and amazing or whatever. But anyway,
Speaker 3: she has this like hot sip and I'm oster Dome.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know if I would share this,
Speaker 3: Like if I had some juicy goss about one of
Speaker 3: our industry peers, I would.
Speaker 1: Keep that off the record. Shit with me, yeah, but
Speaker 1: off the record.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'm not like I would gossip with you,
Speaker 3: and we'll keep coming back to it for weeks at
Speaker 3: a time. But this is like to the world anyway,
Speaker 3: and Jennifer is definitely gonna see this anyway. So Heather
Speaker 3: says she's at this dance audition, and she explains how like,
Speaker 3: most of the time at a dance audition, you're not
Speaker 3: getting paid to be there, and you've been there since
Speaker 3: ten am learning the choreography. You're auditioning until six pm.
Speaker 3: It's a long, arduous day. You're feeling judged, you're feeling stressed.
Speaker 3: You are, you know, among your enemies essentially, because if
Speaker 3: you don't get the job they do, it's a problem.
Speaker 3: So what happens is Jalo walks in the room at
Speaker 3: the end of the day when auditions are about to start,
Speaker 3: and says, and I quote, well this is a paraphrase
Speaker 3: from the experience, but she walks in the room and says,
Speaker 3: thank you so much. You guys work so hard. And
Speaker 3: by shell of hands, if there are any virgos in
Speaker 3: the room, can you please raise your hand?
Speaker 1: So naturally they're.
Speaker 3: Like, yes, wearying, So the virgos reveal themselves and then
Speaker 3: Heather explains that Jlo whispered something to her assistant, looks
Speaker 3: at the group, then thanks them for coming in.
Speaker 1: But it was the end of the road for them.
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 3: Point blank, You're done. You're done. Imagine the scenario. You've
Speaker 3: been breaking your back learning choreography. Jalo's just walked in.
Speaker 3: It's time to show her what you've achieved. And she's like, yep,
Speaker 3: pans up, virgos, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, the road is done. The road is done.
Speaker 3: And then like hand to heart, the palm to heart,
Speaker 3: the sincerity that one hits different and they had to leave.
Speaker 3: And so I think it's pretty terrifying to think. I mean,
Speaker 3: it is discrimination. Unfortunately, when you are segregating a group
Speaker 3: based on something that they can't change, and that is
Speaker 3: the basis of why they're not able to work. Textbook discrimination, like.
Speaker 1: It's not good, should be a lawsuit.
Speaker 3: Granted this was a bajillion years ago. Well I'm imagining
Speaker 3: it was like back in the days when Jaylo was touring.
Speaker 3: Let's say it was ten years ago, twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Times have change. I don't think that could happen.
Speaker 3: But then the Devil's advocate in me is like, if
Speaker 3: she's paying them, why can't she say who she wants
Speaker 3: to not work with.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing.
Speaker 3: I had some time to think about what issue Jayla
Speaker 3: would have against Virgo's broadly enough to remove all of
Speaker 3: them from the room. And then I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: let me do some googles about her exes, because that's
Speaker 3: a good place to start.
Speaker 1: If usually when people think strongly.
Speaker 3: About a star side, it's because they've had a negative
Speaker 3: experience with them close up. So I'd be a parent,
Speaker 3: a sibling, or an ex and in this instance, Mark
Speaker 3: Anthony her ex husband Virgo and she's probably like what
Speaker 3: they take that for years, like a decade plus, so
Speaker 3: like she had like a one on one time with
Speaker 3: a Virgo. Maybe she recognized the traits were so traditionally quintessentially,
Speaker 3: virgo wasn't going to risk it, wasn't going to risk it.
Speaker 3: So I did some googles for your benefit, of course,
Speaker 3: for me and anyone else who's not across Star signs
Speaker 3: on broadly, what are like positive traits and the negative traits?
Speaker 3: So we know so virgos are generally logical, hardworking, artistic, observant, faithful, kind, patient, responsible, reliable, modest.
Speaker 3: The negative traits is that virgos are allegedly ruminative, critical, stubborn, uptight,
Speaker 3: worried people pleasing, frustrated, easily, overly, independent, irritable.
Speaker 2: And picking it sounds like you shut it.
Speaker 3: No, they go to my chart just like an areage
Speaker 3: a lot of water. My areas is like ready to
Speaker 3: fight all time. My water's like everyone needs to leave
Speaker 3: me alone so I can cry in peace, vulnerable. You're
Speaker 3: ruining my vibe. My vibe is precious. Areas is like
Speaker 3: fuck those people fight them anyway. So I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 3: I'm in two minds about it, right. I think often
Speaker 3: we don't look at the arts like real jobs, and
Speaker 3: so we allow she like this to fly very easily.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, well, they're dancers, and like, you know,
Speaker 3: she's a celebrity and she's allowed to have preferences and whatever.
Speaker 3: But in a traditional sense, if you're applying for a
Speaker 3: regular quote unquote job, a traditional job, and at the
Speaker 3: group interview, they said, okay, all the pisces please stand up. Okay, great,
Speaker 3: thank you so much. As the end of the road
Speaker 3: for you, be like, no, it's not gonna fly. You
Speaker 3: go straight to Twitter? Yeah, will you go to the
Speaker 3: City Morning Herald?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I think based truly.
Speaker 3: Like this can't happen. You're discriminating me on the basis
Speaker 3: something I can't change.
Speaker 1: It would not fly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is just a really obvious example
Speaker 2: of something that happens often, Isn't it isn't it?
Speaker 3: Well, this is not an obvious example. This is a
Speaker 3: cooked one, but I feel like people are. The general
Speaker 3: consensus has been like it's a funny joke, like ha haha,
Speaker 3: virgas is so hard to work with. But I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, you take that out and you replace it
Speaker 3: with any kind of minority, like okay, wait a second,
Speaker 3: it's over. We can't do that. We can't do that.
Speaker 3: But then I was thinking like Okay, great, we know
Speaker 3: the qualities are the people that she refuses to work with.
Speaker 3: What about you, If you could only pick five people
Speaker 3: to work with you for the rest of your life,
Speaker 3: what qualities do they have to have and what qualities
Speaker 3: would rule someone out?
Speaker 1: Point blank?
Speaker 2: Period Number one would be full understanding of pop culture
Speaker 2: and what's happening. I need to be around people that
Speaker 2: know what's going on. For example, Eliza and Madison, my
Speaker 2: two best friends, abreast of everything. Yeah, they know more
Speaker 2: than I know, and therefore we can talk and they
Speaker 2: get where I'm coming from. They need to have an
Speaker 2: understanding of my vision and my mission so often they
Speaker 2: need to be someone who's been friends with me for
Speaker 2: over five years to see where I came from.
Speaker 1: Where I'm going Big one to Big one.
Speaker 2: I need to work with somebody who is willing to
Speaker 2: have hard conversations because I'm very much like I say,
Speaker 2: I'm m Karen.
Speaker 1: Something's bugging me, I'm going to bring it up.
Speaker 2: So you have to be like a receptive to it
Speaker 2: and not get upset because I'm willing to be I'm
Speaker 2: willing to get feedback as well. I have chosen I've
Speaker 2: worked with before and people that I've enjoyed working with
Speaker 2: are people that have a sense of humor obviously, but.
Speaker 1: Like respect my vision.
Speaker 2: Like we needs to work for a publication, and I'd
Speaker 2: work with a videographer to just be us two Jordan
Speaker 2: Coles who both worked with his dog. He listens to
Speaker 2: everything that I want and goes through whatever I want,
Speaker 2: but also injects his own flavor in a low key way.
Speaker 2: I don't like working with people who are dominant for
Speaker 2: no reason.
Speaker 1: Leave that to me. There's only one big Doug in
Speaker 1: this room.
Speaker 3: It's a tricky one to that point, because I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, you kind of choose who you work with
Speaker 3: in some sense, but then you reckon with the fact
Speaker 3: that you can't have it all right, Like they can
Speaker 3: be creative, but then they suck on emails or whatever
Speaker 3: it might be. But if I had to pick, and
Speaker 3: it's the five people I'm working with for the rest
Speaker 3: of my life, I would say that everybody needs to
Speaker 3: have a specialty in something. It needs to be their thing.
Speaker 3: And I think that's a bit contradictory to how I
Speaker 3: like to shop in the world, being like a multidisciplinary
Speaker 3: person or I'm like I want to do everything a
Speaker 3: multi hyphen now, bit of this, bit of that.
Speaker 1: But that's my job. That's my job.
Speaker 3: As for you, pick a skill and do it well.
Speaker 3: Be a marketer, be really great at finance, be really academic,
Speaker 3: have a lot of cultural context, be culturally sensitive, whatever
Speaker 3: it might be. But you need a thing that you
Speaker 3: can champion. I feel like ambiguity is like the death
Speaker 3: of progress sometimes because if you don't know what you
Speaker 3: are good or not good at, then you can't really
Speaker 3: get a lot done. That's number one. Number two I
Speaker 3: would think it's someone who I always refer to. It's
Speaker 3: like like good house training. Like some people you just
Speaker 3: can't take places because they just don't understand optics and
Speaker 3: they can't like code switch.
Speaker 1: They can't badly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, things they can't like adjust based on the environment.
Speaker 3: It's to surprise them every time. And I think in
Speaker 3: when the stakes are low, it's fine, but there are
Speaker 3: too many situations where it's like, of course you don't
Speaker 3: like that person, Babe, we're in a work environment. Put
Speaker 3: on a smile, please please, or you know, of course
Speaker 3: that client is annoying. It doesn't matter right now, like
Speaker 3: be polite.
Speaker 1: Things like that.
Speaker 3: You can't really teach someone because it's like you gotta
Speaker 3: get it, or you get it or you don't. It's
Speaker 3: like people who are raised in a household where your
Speaker 3: mum would invite over her friends that you did not like,
Speaker 3: but you'd be like, hey, missus whatever, Yeah, it's so
Speaker 3: great to see you.
Speaker 1: It's a skill on the phone to grandparents.
Speaker 3: Yes, I hate it so much, oh so big, so
Speaker 3: frush up. And that's a really big one for me.
Speaker 3: Good vibe And this is such a tricky one because
Speaker 3: I think that like everybody assumes.
Speaker 1: They know what a good vibe is.
Speaker 3: I don't mean always on, I don't mean always optimistic,
Speaker 3: I don't mean always extroverted, but recognizing that the vibe
Speaker 3: is something that needs to be adjusted, and it needs
Speaker 3: to be tended too frequently. Like a fire, you can't
Speaker 3: just leave it there and assume it's going to keep blazing.
Speaker 1: Bring the wood.
Speaker 2: Don't you say about people running around to try and
Speaker 2: find the best party, Yes, become the party exactly.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: So I have this theory about parties and partying and
Speaker 3: it's a very Sydney thing to lament the environment.
Speaker 1: There's nothing happening.
Speaker 3: It's not good running around hoping that the next venue
Speaker 3: you go to will provide the party for you, not
Speaker 3: recognizing that it's to you, bab.
Speaker 1: The party is the some of the guests. So what
Speaker 1: are you bringing to the energy.
Speaker 3: You can create a party just too. Sally and I
Speaker 3: are always the party when we go up, because we like,
Speaker 3: we are here to enjoy. Okay, if there are games
Speaker 3: being played, we're playing them, Conversations being had we're having them,
Speaker 3: drinks being shared, we're buying them. It's necessary be a
Speaker 3: good vibers like it.
Speaker 1: And also.
Speaker 3: The other thing that I look that I only can
Speaker 3: just put my finger on now is people who are
Speaker 3: naturally empathetic because so much about what you have to
Speaker 3: do in a work sense is just relating to other
Speaker 3: people and understanding their perspective and knowing how to tread carefully.
Speaker 3: And I'm a bulldog. We can't all do what little does.
Speaker 3: It's not helpful. But if you have other people around
Speaker 3: you who are like, wait, this is a better approach.
Speaker 3: This is a calma approach, this is a nicer approach.
Speaker 1: It's like help necessary, lovely.
Speaker 2: So yeah, if you're looking for a job at Flex
Speaker 2: Mummy Incorporated, don't come for.
Speaker 1: Me, send it a CV. Please send a link.
Speaker 3: Don't just send well wishes in the DMS.
Speaker 1: Oh dear, you're listening to flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: Flexie as you know, as my co host, I have
Speaker 2: Karen Rising. Yeah, I have a high pitched voice that's
Speaker 2: ready to come out when i'm disrespected.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're thirty years older, you would be perceived
Speaker 3: as a Karen even before you started speaking one.
Speaker 2: Hundred percent, which is okay, it's fine. I'm fine with
Speaker 2: it because then you can surprise people that you're not
Speaker 2: a Karen though you know that really isn't in my.
Speaker 1: E it's not your story.
Speaker 2: I was walking around Centennial Park this week.
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with it?
Speaker 3: Gorgeous, huge, it's like a dog park, a wedding park, botanical,
Speaker 3: botanical Guiden type vibe with not enough flowers near Sydney City.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: I was going for a trot with my friend and
Speaker 2: around the Inner Ring.
Speaker 1: It's where horses go. It's also a horse park with
Speaker 1: pop at all. Oh yeah, it's one big circular park.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so the in its is the grasslands. Then
Speaker 3: there's a big road that's shared by cars, bicycles, horses,
Speaker 3: and then you know an outer an out of shrubbery yep.
Speaker 3: And then you're at the roads, the main roads. That's
Speaker 3: exactly what it is. I highly recommend you go and
Speaker 3: visit it. When if you're in the Sydney area.
Speaker 2: Walking past and I'm seeing dog pooh everywhere and horse
Speaker 2: poo and I'm feeling a bit yuck about it, I
Speaker 2: was sorry. My crocs are like very tread heavy. You
Speaker 2: can wash them because they're rubber. Yeah, that's still. And
Speaker 2: it reminded me of this time I was.
Speaker 1: In Melbourne with my mum.
Speaker 2: We walked past this woman with the dog. The dog
Speaker 2: did a pooh and we're waiting like this one's gonna
Speaker 2: pick it up, doesn't pick it up. My mum is
Speaker 2: a Karen. Oh, like I said the first time, you
Speaker 2: revealed it subtle Karen, what is a subtle caron?
Speaker 1: Like in this instance, she wanted.
Speaker 2: To ask the woman why she didn't pick it up. Okay, anyway,
Speaker 2: the woman walks another ten meters, the dog does it again,
Speaker 2: she doesn't pick it up. And this is on a
Speaker 2: sidewalk with high foot traffic.
Speaker 1: So busy, busy, busy.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so I'm trying to step in it and
Speaker 2: my mum was ready to sound off.
Speaker 1: Just raging. Do you have it bad? My mum was
Speaker 1: ready to sound off. Excuse me, that's how the Karen operates.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But it's got me thinking, like I
Speaker 2: still remember that moment.
Speaker 1: Should have we said something?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: You didn't end up saying anything? No, I told mom
Speaker 1: you can't you know, I can't be saying you silenced her,
Speaker 1: You censored her? What would you do well? In this instance.
Speaker 3: I'm big on picking my battles because I am a
Speaker 3: confrontational person, but I don't care fundamentally, So in that instance,
Speaker 3: I'm like, the right thing to do would meant to
Speaker 3: pick up the dog pooh, But you didn't do.
Speaker 1: The right thing.
Speaker 3: Great, Like people don't do the right thing all the time.
Speaker 3: Why am I now going to take on the burden
Speaker 3: that you should have took on. There's not my business.
Speaker 3: Let me keep going right. In some instances, though, if
Speaker 3: it was actively affecting me, I would do something. I
Speaker 3: try not to be a warrior for conceptual causes. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: like a dog owner should know what to do. If
Speaker 3: she's choosing to do the wrong thing, then like that's
Speaker 3: the hill she's going to die on. And I don't
Speaker 3: think me a stranger reprimanding her in that instance, it's
Speaker 3: going to be the kick.
Speaker 1: That she needed.
Speaker 3: Had she been my friend in my inner circle and acquaintance,
Speaker 3: I knew would prefer to say something.
Speaker 1: If it was my friend, I'd be letting it go.
Speaker 2: I'd be cackling with them and just bush saying, who's
Speaker 2: going to step in it?
Speaker 3: See I'm different. I'm like, I think about the knock
Speaker 3: on the knock on effect.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I can't change the world, right, Like, I don't think
Speaker 3: that me telling a stranger how to be is going
Speaker 3: to be the thing that changes their life. But I
Speaker 3: can impact my inner circle, my family, my friends, my community,
Speaker 3: these people, the people that follow me on Instagram, Like,
Speaker 3: I can definitely do my work there. And I think
Speaker 3: if everybody felt that way, like you, you are responsible
Speaker 3: for the people that are in your like web. Right,
Speaker 3: she was in my web, So I'm like whatever, and
Speaker 3: walking down the street, you deal with them.
Speaker 1: Nice blend you with those boundaries.
Speaker 3: So what would you do in future, like now that
Speaker 3: you are about to be a dog owner? That is
Speaker 3: your community dog owners?
Speaker 1: It is it is.
Speaker 2: Look I say this often. If I didn't do what
Speaker 2: I'd do for work, I'd be a ravaging beasts telling
Speaker 2: people off. But unfortunately I can't do that. That stuff
Speaker 2: backfires these days.
Speaker 1: These days, so act to the good old days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to do what you want, say what you want, go.
Speaker 2: Back to being like I was a Karen before I
Speaker 2: even Carrent existed, and that's when it was a lot
Speaker 2: more acceptable.
Speaker 1: But now we've been put in to line for better
Speaker 1: or less.
Speaker 3: There are definitely scenarios where I'm like, in publicum like,
Speaker 3: it's not my business, but I'll make it. Like if
Speaker 3: I'm seeing like abuse someone like yelling really hectically or
Speaker 3: being rude to like.
Speaker 1: A cashier, I'll say something.
Speaker 3: Wow, I've been waiting my whole life for this. I
Speaker 3: was raised by Liz for this. It hits my heart.
Speaker 3: I'll do something about it. I'm not a pet person,
Speaker 3: so I'm like, it's like if you spat your gum out,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you shouldn't have done that. But if you've
Speaker 3: done it, now, what am I going to do about it?
Speaker 1: Exactly the same damn flecks and fruits.
Speaker 2: A few days ago, I was wearing a tracksuit pan
Speaker 2: here it was Pangaea.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think maybe in my head,
Speaker 3: I say Pangayer.
Speaker 2: But it's probably Pangaya to be fair, I don't know,
Speaker 2: could be either. Anyway, I was wearing that tracksuit sustainably made,
Speaker 2: very beautiful fabric, and I'd curled it up at.
Speaker 1: The top like you folded in the waist, folded.
Speaker 2: In the waistban I'm like, And then I had this flashback,
Speaker 2: this like physical sensation flashback of being in school and
Speaker 2: curling my shorts, my trackies, my skirts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, feral behavior.
Speaker 2: And we're also on the Flex and Frome's Heartbreak high
Speaker 2: set today. So we're sitting in front of these books,
Speaker 2: these tables, bells, phones, and it's got me reminiscing about
Speaker 2: certain fashion and lifestyle choices we made in our high
Speaker 2: school years. Other things I did. I want to know
Speaker 2: if this was a happening thing in New South Wales. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm Victoria Country Road Duffel Bags.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And I actually think that was so premium,
Speaker 3: Like I don't think I don't even think I got
Speaker 3: the Country Road one. I couldn't afford. I got the
Speaker 3: sports go on. I think it was like twenty bucks less,
Speaker 3: maybe thirty bucks. I think it was like forty, and
Speaker 3: the Country Read one was sixty I'm gonna say maybe
Speaker 3: even eighty. Yeah, but I was a sports girl and
Speaker 3: I had the red one with.
Speaker 1: The rainbow handle.
Speaker 3: You know how it is, I did.
Speaker 2: I was traded to a country road one at one
Speaker 2: point I got the denim with the black straps.
Speaker 3: Whoa, it was vibe. You have been a material girl.
Speaker 3: They don't make like you anymore, can they really don't.
Speaker 1: What else do you remember doing in high school? Stylistically?
Speaker 3: I remember wearing Doc Martins a lot, but it was
Speaker 3: that was a very rebellious thing to do because everyone's
Speaker 3: wearing dunblops, Volleys, ballet shoes. That was a big one.
Speaker 3: But I was trying to project like a miss. I'm
Speaker 3: an anarchist. I need the skaters to love me. I'm
Speaker 3: putting in work, right. The real work happens at the
Speaker 3: bus stops three fifteen, Yes, but it's what happens.
Speaker 2: At the bus stop at my school. There were all
Speaker 2: these buses that would come through the school to pick
Speaker 2: us up. And I was at Stop J, which went
Speaker 2: to Mount Waverley, Glenn Waverley and the southeastern suburbs surrounds.
Speaker 2: And yeah, you'd be standing there with your ipoddy curls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the skirt. Be serious.
Speaker 2: I've got my hat off, which you had to wear
Speaker 2: your had after school, but I've taken it off and
Speaker 2: I'm vibing dream Matt Moosea.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't do it. I didn't do that, didn't
Speaker 1: have my color? Is that trauma? I don't know. That
Speaker 1: was a big one.
Speaker 3: Also, I didn't partake in this, but there was a
Speaker 3: subset of women in my year and above who would
Speaker 3: wear pacifiers like dummies around their neck and then suck
Speaker 3: them during class.
Speaker 1: I swear down.
Speaker 3: It was a whole thing that coincided with when people
Speaker 3: would wear there's really tiny kids bags like cartoon characters
Speaker 3: Disney under it. I would wear in that same era,
Speaker 3: I was doing Doc Muntons and a Champion bags. There's
Speaker 3: like a little tiny then no books can fit in this,
Speaker 3: by the way, it's the bags for aesthetic. Then you
Speaker 3: carry you a folder because you're studious.
Speaker 1: Well I had a lunch box, Oh I was?
Speaker 2: I was?
Speaker 1: Who was packing my lunchbox? Obviously my mum? See this.
Speaker 2: I can't relate to girl spoiled little brat rodabuster school,
Speaker 2: but often like the take to school.
Speaker 1: With mummy's car.
Speaker 2: Whoa mummy daddy drive to school, me won't sleep in
Speaker 2: whoa other things that I loved Snapchat, see.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't remember using Snapchat, used BBO.
Speaker 1: Remember hearts a lot showing your age, babe. Also, while
Speaker 1: we're talking, I just did my b reel. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we've still got it. We may referateing the be real
Speaker 1: has occurred. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, high school was a weird one. Honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Do you miss it?
Speaker 1: Be honest with us. You're a liar enough. I've already
Speaker 1: made fun of you once before. You're on edge. I
Speaker 1: know what you want. We're done here. You peaked in
Speaker 1: high school. You want to go back. You have fond memories.
Speaker 3: The fact that you know how far down your feet
Speaker 3: to scroll to find high school relics is beyond it.
Speaker 1: I could probably from memory. I see that my face
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