1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Now we know the calls for the first home buyer 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: cap to be lifted on the federal government's First Home 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Buyer scheme. They're getting louder as the territory housing market 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: continues to shift. Ruth Palmer joined us a couple of 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: weeks ago to talk about the climbing costs making it 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: more difficult for locals to access the scheme. Now Ruth, 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: the executive director of the Property Council, joins me on 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: the line right now. Good morning to your Ruth. 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Ruth and numbers they're continuing to grow when it comes 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: to homes in Darwin and Palmerston. I mean since we 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: last spoke, what have we seen? Have we seen these things? 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: You know, like the house prices continue to go up, 14 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: houses stock levels looking. 15 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Katie. When we last spoke we were 16 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: talking about that six hundred thousand cap and our June 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: report showing that the median house price was at six 18 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: hundred thousand. The latest Domain report that was in September, 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: which was published in the Australian Financial Review, has the 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: house prices the median house price now at six hundred 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: and fifty six thousand. We are seeing that steady increase 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: and it's jump to about ten percent just in the 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: last six months, so it is something that we're tracking. 24 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: It is something that we've tracked now for a year's 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: part of our reporting. But now that latest domain report 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: has that medium house price at six hundred and fifty 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: six thousand dollars, So these are numbers that can't be ignored. 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: So that it is happening, and my feeling is that 29 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: it will continue to grow because we are seeing that 30 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: increase around construction activity, building approvals, our employment rising, and 31 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: that workforce participation increasing. 32 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: And we're like, we really don't have a lot of 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: stock available either, do we I know that therese you know, 34 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: there's quite a few units and townhouses available, but when 35 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about standalone houses, there's not a loss. 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And you know, we have a very 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: tight rental market at the moment at one point seven percent, 38 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: so you can see that all lives are on the territory. 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: So we do need to make sure that we are 40 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: supporting existing stock that is in the market, but that 41 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: we've also got the capacity to be able to build 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 2: new properties right across the territory, not just in Darwin, 43 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: right across the territory, but also looking at that existing 44 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: stock as well, so what is available and they're not 45 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: sitting at six hundred thousand and under Ruth. 46 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: Have you had the opportunity to speak to the Member 47 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: for Solomon, Luke Gosling or to get in contact with 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: the federal Housing Minister about this. 49 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so I have been in contact with Luke 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: and I have given him some data around where that 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: six hundred and fifty six thousand comes from. But one 52 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: of the benefits of being part of a national organization 53 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: with the Property Council is we do have that direct 54 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: line into the federal government. So I know my team 55 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: down in New South Wales and Victoria, part of our 56 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: National Advocacy Group, are working with the Housing Minister on 57 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: now looking at bringing this cap up because one of 58 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: the things is is if you're not talking about it, 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: if you're not bringing it to the forefront, it's not 60 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: something that will get addressed. So we know the federal 61 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: government has eight jurisdic to be looking at. All of 62 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: those governments are probably in their ear going. We want 63 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: an increase, We want an increase. We need as industry 64 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: to be pushing and pushing to make sure that the 65 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: territory isn't forgotten. We know that we haven't seen movement 66 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: in the last few years with our housing prices, but 67 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: it's really beneficial for me to be able to tap 68 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: into our national teams to actually get their foot in 69 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: the door, which I know they've done, so we hopefully, 70 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: you know, we will see that change. There are still 71 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: tweaks that can happen. We can see that movement. So 72 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: now we need to just make sure we keep the 73 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: pressure on as the industry here in the Northern Territory 74 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: that the territory is open for business. People are coming here. 75 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: Activity is happening, and we need to keep that momentum, 76 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: that momentum going. 77 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: Rousie, from your perspective, why is it so important that 78 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: we get this sorted out? 79 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: Well, we've got essential workers, Katie, central workers, first home buyers, 80 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: they're single parents. We need to make sure that it's 81 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: fair and equitable for everyone to be able to access. 82 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: If we've only got a few houses on the market 83 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: at six hundred thousand and under, then that's going to 84 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: drive people then into more rentals, which again with a 85 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: titan market, is not something that we want to be seeing. 86 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: So if we've got a few properties at six hundred 87 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: thousand or under. It's really locking people out. So the 88 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: people we need to be supporting are the people who 89 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: want to get into homes. Otherwise again we are just 90 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: putting them back on the rental market and paying higher 91 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: prices given that squeeze. Some people choose to rent, that's 92 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: absolutely up to them. But some people who want to 93 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: actually put their roots down in their territory, they want 94 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: to call the territory home, they want to grow and 95 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: raise their families here, they want to work here. They 96 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: could be five fou workers as well. We need to 97 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: provide them as many opportunities as we can to be 98 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: able to make them permanent territories, because that's how we're 99 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: going to create a stable economy, stable population, which again 100 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: grows our own workforce as well well. 101 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: Property Council of Australia's Northern Territory Executive Director Ruth Palmer, 102 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time this morning. We're due to 103 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: catch up with Luke Gosling tomorrow, so we'll see if 104 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: we can get a bit of an update from him 105 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: on this median house price and whether they're going to 106 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: change that cap. 107 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just want to let territorianes know that 108 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: we have their back. We're doing everything we can, and 109 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: I'm absolutely pushing at every single level that i can 110 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: to have this cap lifted. 111 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: Good stuff, Ruth, good to speak to you this morning. 112 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time. Thanks Katie, thank you