Speaker 1: What what are you thinking?
Speaker 2: Just relaxing.
Speaker 1: Relax, Maddie J. Don't relax that much.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. How have you? How
Speaker 2: have you got a number one fucking podcast?
Speaker 1: Hi, guys, and a'll welcome.
Speaker 2: To Laugh un Cut. My name is Maddy J. And
Speaker 2: I'm joined by my half drunk fiance.
Speaker 1: It's good to be here, guys. But you know what's
Speaker 1: even better than being here on the podcast sitting across
Speaker 1: from you, Maddy J.
Speaker 2: What's that.
Speaker 1: It's being a winner. And that's what's better. Being a
Speaker 1: winner feels really, really good. Don't don't call me a
Speaker 1: bad winner and say I'm rubbing it in you deserve.
Speaker 2: I bet you were the kind of person who would
Speaker 2: get like an A plus on their exam and then
Speaker 2: just rub it in everyone's face so you'd win a
Speaker 2: race at athletics, and then for the next week or
Speaker 2: two you'd just be gloating NonStop.
Speaker 1: You truly lost me at the A plus part. That
Speaker 1: would imply that I had to have been academic at school.
Speaker 1: So no, I'm making up for it now by being
Speaker 1: the oracle of the Bachelor everybody. Matt told me that
Speaker 1: it wasn't allowed to say it at the beginning, he said,
Speaker 1: I can't tell you about hollyween race.
Speaker 2: Ah ruined it.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess what Holdog wins, Guys, Holly did win.
Speaker 2: And I think it's just the fact that you got
Speaker 2: really lucky. Okay, you just happen to fluke at one time.
Speaker 2: Every other season prior to this, you've always got it wrong.
Speaker 2: So so one occasion, Laura Burn, you are correct. Cheers
Speaker 2: to you, ching.
Speaker 1: Last year or lucky season. I did really think it
Speaker 1: was going to be Bella who was going to win.
Speaker 1: And to be fair, I think also Lockie had no
Speaker 1: idea who was going to pick either.
Speaker 2: Oh, Laura Burn, your sonne zing.
Speaker 1: All right, so we have we have two episodes to
Speaker 1: recap tonight. It's kind of weird recapping the end of
Speaker 1: it like it's finished. It's all over.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, it's upsetting. It's been a really fun ride
Speaker 2: up until now. But you know, unfortunately all good things
Speaker 2: must come to an end. And anyone out there who
Speaker 2: may be a little bit upset, I say to you, guys,
Speaker 2: don't be upset it's over. Just be happy that it's happened.
Speaker 2: Write that one down. Yeah, that's welcome.
Speaker 1: That quote is direct from Maddy j He is truly,
Speaker 1: truly a wealth of wisdom everybody. But before we get
Speaker 1: into recapping the last two episodes, you know what, we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about all of it, the highs the lows.
Speaker 1: But before we do that, we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: our own personal highs and lows for a moment, because
Speaker 1: our kids are driving us crazy. Matthew, how are you feeling.
Speaker 2: Look, it's not been a good day. It's been a
Speaker 2: very frustrating day. We had this toy that Marley just
Speaker 2: became obsessed with, and it wasn't really a toy. It
Speaker 2: was it was a pencil case. It was a smiggle
Speaker 2: Is it a smiggle pencil case?
Speaker 1: You're making it sound weirder than what it was. It
Speaker 1: was okay, it was a baby. It was her baby.
Speaker 1: If you guys fall following me me on Instagram, there's
Speaker 1: a photo of her with her little puffer jacket on
Speaker 1: and she used to wear it down her jacket so
Speaker 1: she would carry her baby around in the same way
Speaker 1: that I would carry Lolo around. So cute, and it
Speaker 1: had a little face and it was like wearing like
Speaker 1: a pink little hoodie and it was furry, and it
Speaker 1: was like her comforter that she would carry everywhere, but it.
Speaker 2: Was also a pencil case.
Speaker 1: So she lost that and it's been it's been a
Speaker 1: real problem in the household because she doesn't sleep without it,
Speaker 1: she doesn't leave the house without it, she doesn't get
Speaker 1: to daycare without it. And it turns out that that
Speaker 1: goddamn pencil case is now a collector's item, like.
Speaker 2: A hundred bucks online. Now it's ridiculous. And every time
Speaker 2: she goes to bed and as I'm walking out the door,
Speaker 2: she'll go, Daddy, I stop, and I turn around and say, yes, Marley,
Speaker 2: there's baby, And I have to say to her, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: oh baby, that's right. Yeah, let me just have a
Speaker 2: quick look. I'll be back in a second. And I
Speaker 2: have to run out the door and close it and
Speaker 2: hope that she doesn't wake back up.
Speaker 1: And baby's coming by Amazon, and it's cost mummy and
Speaker 1: dadding an arm and a leg. So anyway, if you
Speaker 1: want a baby, you can just buy them online. They
Speaker 1: cost one hundred bucks. Fine. I hate it when you
Speaker 1: don't last time make a joke. You do that on
Speaker 1: purpose to try to wig me out. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm the winner, so you're never gonna wag me out,
Speaker 1: Matthew Johnson. With that out of the way, how about
Speaker 1: we recap the episodes that have just happened.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's do it for one last.
Speaker 1: Time, bringing on Home Baby.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the I think this is the first
Speaker 2: time that the last three remaining women organize the dates
Speaker 2: because I think back to my season, sorry sorry, our season,
Speaker 2: and I organized the date that was our second last date.
Speaker 2: Isn't that right?
Speaker 1: We went paragliding. Is that what it was like?
Speaker 2: Parag Yeah, gliding. We jumped off a cliff, but we
Speaker 2: were strapped to men. We were each strapped to a
Speaker 2: separate man. And so as I looked over, I just
Speaker 2: saw Laura and the fetal position strapped to another man,
Speaker 2: which is awkwardly quite nice arousing, and I was like,
Speaker 2: get used to this.
Speaker 1: That's weird for starters. I was not in the fetal position.
Speaker 1: I was loving it.
Speaker 2: I feel like they've changed it a little bit with
Speaker 2: the women organizer dates. So for these three dates, it's
Speaker 2: all about the women revealing a bit more of themselves
Speaker 2: to Jimmy.
Speaker 1: So we kick off these single dates with Holly, my
Speaker 1: number one girl, gets the number one date. Oh, who
Speaker 1: would have thought it. And here she is driving a
Speaker 1: great big boat. Look, it's not a great big boat.
Speaker 1: It's like a medium size, pretty like affordable boat. But
Speaker 1: here she is rocking up and ready.
Speaker 2: I'm going to sound really cynical here. Do you think
Speaker 2: she was actually driving the boat? I mean, she looked
Speaker 2: like she was doing a good job of just spinning
Speaker 2: the wheel. But I think I think there was someone downstairs,
Speaker 2: because it was a double decker boat. She was upstairs.
Speaker 2: I don't how she was driving it.
Speaker 1: Matthew Johnson, do you think that there was editing behind
Speaker 1: such things? Yeah, smoke and mirrors and a bit of.
Speaker 2: Production, I'm afraid.
Speaker 1: So, Laura Burn, are you telling me that things that
Speaker 1: happen on reality TV are not always real?
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm saying, Holly, you want to find
Speaker 2: out where you actually driving that boat or nut.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the most important part of
Speaker 1: the day. But anyway, Holly rocks up in a great
Speaker 1: big old boat, and there she is ready to take
Speaker 1: her Jimmy for a little ride. And it's good to
Speaker 1: be reminded that they have such a great banter between
Speaker 1: the two of them.
Speaker 2: I'm liking the yellow thank you, liking the green ah,
Speaker 2: there's nothing quite like admiring what the other person is
Speaker 2: wearing and then announcing it for everyone to hear.
Speaker 1: Well, you've got to verbalize these things. Unfortunately, with the Bachelor,
Speaker 1: when you're all miked up, the internal thoughts have to
Speaker 1: be external words. And that's the one thing that you
Speaker 1: get prompted about all the time. It's like, if you
Speaker 1: think you love him, you must tell him. If you
Speaker 1: think you like this about him, tell him. So you're
Speaker 1: constantly saying words that really should just be thought, like
Speaker 1: I need to fart right now. Okay that Joe, Tim
Speaker 1: anyway back to.
Speaker 2: It, Laura, I like your white shoes.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and wearing crooks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people do love the crocs. Hey. I always find
Speaker 2: it really interesting when I'm looking at the body language
Speaker 2: of two people on the show. I find it interesting
Speaker 2: to see who goes in for the kiss first. And
Speaker 2: when Jimmy meets Holly, he's always the one leaning in
Speaker 2: for the kiss, and on the other days it's always
Speaker 2: the girls leaning into kiss him first.
Speaker 1: It's one of the big telltale signs to be honest.
Speaker 1: And I want to say this to everyone so that
Speaker 1: if there ever is another Bachelor season after this, and
Speaker 1: we're going to see it with Brooke when it comes
Speaker 1: to hometowns and when it comes to the last single date,
Speaker 1: which is obviously what we're on now. How they greet
Speaker 1: each other is such a massive telltale sign as to
Speaker 1: who it's going to be. So if the bachelor or
Speaker 1: the bachelorette looks so stove to see that person, you
Speaker 1: you know, like that, that is such a big indicator.
Speaker 1: Whereas I feel like with Jay and with Brookie wants
Speaker 1: a cookie, they kind of like, you.
Speaker 2: Know it properly, say it properly, Kie ones a cookie.
Speaker 1: I feel like it was more the girls leaning into
Speaker 1: Jimmy than what it was the other way around.
Speaker 2: Totally. Now, this date with Holly, this is actually quite
Speaker 2: a serious one because if we remember from our hometowns,
Speaker 2: she kind of choked up real bad on the step
Speaker 2: of her apartments when she was meant to say like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I love you so much, and she
Speaker 2: couldn't because it was all getting too much for her.
Speaker 2: So now it's a really important opportunity for Holly to
Speaker 2: open up, and open up she does. So these dates
Speaker 2: are really serious. Obviously, they right at the pointy end
Speaker 2: of things, and they had to talk about, Hey, is
Speaker 2: this going to work outside of the show, What is
Speaker 2: the feasibility of this relationship working in real life? The
Speaker 2: fact that Jimmy's a pilot. It sucks.
Speaker 1: It sucks, and it has posed quite a few issues
Speaker 1: for quite a few of the girls. However, for Holly,
Speaker 1: she seems to she seems to be okay with it.
Speaker 1: The fact that he's going to be an absent boyfriend
Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent of the time. It feels
Speaker 1: really easy picturing a family with Jimmy and life after this.
Speaker 2: Look when you're single, I guess it would be quite
Speaker 2: easy to imagine a life with your partner never ever
Speaker 2: being around or even in the same country.
Speaker 1: Jimmy makes dating him sounds so shit. Like every episode
Speaker 1: He's like, So, I'm a pilot and I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: be here ever. I want you to know that I'm
Speaker 1: going to abandon you several days of a week, at
Speaker 1: least five days, and when we're together it'll be quality time,
Speaker 1: but you know you'll be majorityly raising our children on
Speaker 1: your own.
Speaker 2: I will never make you orgasm.
Speaker 1: Ever, and I'll probably never send you a good morning text.
Speaker 1: Look as cute as they are, and at this part
Speaker 1: of the date, look, I love Holly, I love Jimmy.
Speaker 1: I think that they're going to be beautiful together and
Speaker 1: have beautiful, batchy babies. But at this part of the date,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, dear God, Jimmy, You're truly not selling
Speaker 1: this for me. Holly's just opened up about like her
Speaker 1: relationship with her dad, or her relationship with her parents,
Speaker 1: being divorced, feeling abandoned.
Speaker 2: I fly planes, so I'll never be here. So even
Speaker 2: though I'm never going to be home, when I am
Speaker 2: home for that one minute of the week, it will
Speaker 2: be very very good.
Speaker 1: He's not going to be on TikTok is what he's saying.
Speaker 2: Matt jabbing the guts right there from Laura.
Speaker 1: And then of course, just to really round out the date,
Speaker 1: you know, to finish it off, just an ode to
Speaker 1: the last day that they had, they go for a
Speaker 1: swim in some freezing foltic water.
Speaker 2: Once again, why is he trying to give holy hypothermia?
Speaker 1: She's only thought out from the date. She's like, do
Speaker 1: I have to get back in Jimmy's like, get back
Speaker 1: in the water. I'll do anything for love.
Speaker 2: You know, when you go on a date and they
Speaker 2: tell you what you need to bring in terms of wardrobe,
Speaker 2: so you know, if you're going to be in the water,
Speaker 2: you will get a note from production to say, hey, Laura,
Speaker 2: bring your kini bottoms on this date.
Speaker 1: Holly was like, I did not want to pack my
Speaker 1: bikini bottoms. I'm never going swimming with Jimmy again.
Speaker 2: Please.
Speaker 1: No, she's got PTSD after going swimming in the swamp
Speaker 1: from a few weeks back.
Speaker 2: My favorite part of this date was after they went
Speaker 2: for the swim, they'd gotten changed and now on the
Speaker 2: roof of this boat is this beautiful little setup with
Speaker 2: wine and cheese and champagne, and Holly says this beautiful.
Speaker 1: Oh look at this, Holly. You've just told us fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes prior that you organized this date, and now you're
Speaker 1: surprised by how beautiful it looks. Stick to the script, Holly, continuity,
Speaker 1: but no, look, this is their time to sit down
Speaker 1: and have some intimacy, and Holy really lets her guard down.
Speaker 1: Holly like goes from being the girl that's you know,
Speaker 1: crying at hometowns, hunched in the corner doing a pool
Speaker 1: in her doorway to being the one to drop the
Speaker 1: l bomb first.
Speaker 2: She's laying it on thick and fast now. But do
Speaker 2: you think I wasn't quite sure if she said I'm
Speaker 2: falling in love with you or four in love with you.
Speaker 1: We could have pressed for rewind and listened to it
Speaker 1: again if you weren't sure. But I'm pretty sure she
Speaker 1: said I've fallen in love with you.
Speaker 2: Wait, let's play it and you at home can try
Speaker 2: and figure out what she said. I have fallen in
Speaker 2: love with you.
Speaker 1: The big thing I want to unpack with you here,
Speaker 1: Matt and people I mean, like the lovely listeners may
Speaker 1: not be aware of this, but let's bring you into
Speaker 1: the warm embrace of the bachelor world. There is a
Speaker 1: big difference between the words. Like in normal life, if
Speaker 1: you said I've fallen in love with you, I'm falling
Speaker 1: in love with you, like blah blah blah blah, they're
Speaker 1: all kind of similar vein of things. In bachelor world,
Speaker 1: they mean significantly different things. If you say I have
Speaker 1: fallen in love with you, that's the same as saying
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? That's the same as someone saying I
Speaker 2: might be in love with you?
Speaker 1: Do you reckon? Anyonome would ever say I might be
Speaker 1: in love with you fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: Now I've said that before. Hey, who ex girlfriend? Sorry
Speaker 2: about that? Rachel?
Speaker 1: Oh did you really?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not? What's wrong with you? I'm better than that.
Speaker 2: I was a bachelor, I'm a dream.
Speaker 1: You did tell me that you love me first, and
Speaker 1: I will always be happy that I won?
Speaker 2: Did I?
Speaker 1: Yeap?
Speaker 2: When did I? Oh? That shrugs? I said at the finale? Sorry? Sorry, sorry.
Speaker 2: Normally at this point you say I'm falling for you,
Speaker 2: as in like, hey, it's like it's coming because you
Speaker 2: need to leave, you need to leave a little bit
Speaker 2: of something special for the end, for the finale. But
Speaker 2: now that she said falling in love with you, it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: where do you go from here? Like now they have
Speaker 2: to have sex to make it seem like they are
Speaker 2: progressing somewhat more.
Speaker 1: I would that they don't have sex on The Bachelor,
Speaker 1: just on our screen so that we can see the
Speaker 1: next step in their relationship. Really, Jimmy and Holly, if
Speaker 1: you're listening to this, please can you start an only
Speaker 1: fan so that Matt knows what happens next in your relationship? Well?
Speaker 2: Where do they go for the finale?
Speaker 1: Well, we want to know if you've consummated it.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they have.
Speaker 1: We'll ask them tomorrow when we interview them.
Speaker 2: But Jimmy responds in such a beautiful and articulate manner,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to see a part of you, and
Speaker 2: I've loved every second of it.
Speaker 1: Today it sucks, and you would have experienced this in
Speaker 1: Georgia Love season. Remember when you did that season and
Speaker 1: you were on national TV and proclaimed your love for
Speaker 1: someone prior to it being me. You didn't tell her
Speaker 1: you loved her.
Speaker 2: I never told her.
Speaker 1: You never said I love you.
Speaker 2: I can't remember what I said, but no, no, no, I
Speaker 2: never said, never said the old word.
Speaker 1: Did you say I'm falling in love?
Speaker 2: I think I said I might perhaps could envision myself
Speaker 2: being in a position where I may love a part
Speaker 2: of you. I think your face just can't remember exactly
Speaker 2: what happened.
Speaker 1: There is nothing worse than being on the Bachelor and
Speaker 1: being at that point in the show where you sit
Speaker 1: there and you tell, like when I told you how
Speaker 1: I felt about you, and I said, I think I'm
Speaker 1: falling in love with you?
Speaker 2: Why did you say think? Why don't you just just
Speaker 2: say like, hey, I'm mate, I'm into this, I'm all in.
Speaker 2: You were like tiptoeing around. You were like, oh, maybe
Speaker 2: maybe I'm not. I think perhaps it's like, come on,
Speaker 2: just deliver it straight.
Speaker 1: I had a little bit of self respect at the
Speaker 1: time and reservation.
Speaker 2: I think it would be ridiculous.
Speaker 1: You were still dating other women. So I said to you,
Speaker 1: I think I'm falling in love with you. And I
Speaker 1: remember saying it, and you couldn't say anything back at all,
Speaker 1: and it was so demoralized, like dehumanizing. I was like, cool,
Speaker 1: glad we covered that one off.
Speaker 2: I think I was like more wine.
Speaker 1: I was like, let's make out now, because this is
Speaker 1: fucking awkward.
Speaker 2: That's actually a good point. When there's nothing else to
Speaker 2: be said, the easiest thing to do is just start kissing.
Speaker 1: And I now kind of think as well, sometimes when
Speaker 1: people are like so when you watch The Bachelor and
Speaker 1: they're just kissing all the time, sometimes they think maybe
Speaker 1: they're not actually that into each other. Maybe they just
Speaker 1: have nothing to say to each other and they're using
Speaker 1: kissing as like a prop to kind of feel the
Speaker 1: space totally.
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you mean that never happens? Ever,
Speaker 2: It's so random. Not on my season.
Speaker 1: Wrapping up on Holy State and then we dive headfirst
Speaker 1: into Ja And you know what, it's a good thing
Speaker 1: that Jay rocked up at the exact same pontoon that
Speaker 1: Holly and Jimmy just said goodbye to each other at.
Speaker 2: I love the fact that Jay is wearing Act of Where,
Speaker 2: just to really show Jimmy that she is going to
Speaker 2: slip into life in the Eastern suburbs so effortlessly.
Speaker 1: And then they're going to go for a little walk
Speaker 1: along the bond Ay to Bronte Coastal Walk.
Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking more along the lines of doing
Speaker 2: cocaine and rivisis.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's where they hitded, but they
Speaker 1: do have the world's most boring date.
Speaker 2: Well, you can't really do much in a kayak, can you.
Speaker 2: It's quite limiting.
Speaker 1: You certainly can't do cocaine on a kayak, can you.
Speaker 1: Mat Well, I was hopeful that one time. Look I
Speaker 1: was twenty two.
Speaker 2: Let me live it, don't you think? It's just like
Speaker 2: a real fuck you to Jay. The fact that the
Speaker 2: last date was in a beautiful boat, and then we
Speaker 2: cut to Jay's date and all they can afford it
Speaker 2: just two measly little kayaks.
Speaker 1: But isn't Joe the one organizing the dates now? So
Speaker 1: isn't it Jay that just didn't put the effort in.
Speaker 1: Collie's there and she's like, I got a boat, I
Speaker 1: got a big ass piece of salmon. Let's cook this up.
Speaker 1: And Jay's like, hey, I got the kayaks ready. Or
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it was production who said, sorry, we just
Speaker 1: blew the budget on Holly.
Speaker 2: I reckon it was the fact that Jay was too
Speaker 2: lazy to organize anything.
Speaker 1: I don't know what a perfect date is. I'm going
Speaker 1: to take him back to the business luge and we're
Speaker 1: just going to play another game of chess. It's fine.
Speaker 1: Look the kayak date it was pretty boring. Jimmy was
Speaker 1: obviously there was some things, some rumors that he needed
Speaker 1: to clear up.
Speaker 2: Wait, Jimmy trying to solve rumors with Jay on a
Speaker 2: date that's never happened before.
Speaker 1: Whilst this was happening, were you just like, Jay's going
Speaker 1: home tonight.
Speaker 2: I've been thinking that since like three weeks ago. I've
Speaker 2: known that Jay is going to go home. I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, mate, just pull the trigger. The
Speaker 2: gun is aimed clearly at her head. It's game over.
Speaker 1: But I do think that Jimmy obviously really really dug Jay,
Speaker 1: like there was obviously something there for quite a long
Speaker 1: time where he was like, I just want to get
Speaker 1: through this next, like, surely this can't be true. Surely
Speaker 1: this can't be true.
Speaker 2: Totally I agree, and I think it was the fifty
Speaker 2: third rumor that he was like, enough is enough.
Speaker 1: You fool me once, Jay, you fool me once. Well, look,
Speaker 1: I didn't think that this Kayaking date could get any
Speaker 1: more boring. But then Jay took him to see the
Speaker 1: Sydney Symphony Orchestras. Apparently, jam this is the Sydney sam
Speaker 1: Phinny Orchestra. This is Jimmy, Yeah, and they're going to
Speaker 1: play a piece called Salu de more. I love press
Speaker 1: school music. It kind of catches people off guard when
Speaker 1: I let them know, so I think Jimmy will be
Speaker 1: really surprised by this.
Speaker 2: It was as if she told Jimmy, We're going to
Speaker 2: watch this paint dry and that is going to be
Speaker 2: our date. Jimmy did not give a crap.
Speaker 1: She was like, this is like really a part of
Speaker 1: me and I want to share with you something that
Speaker 1: I really love. And you could just see Jimmy like
Speaker 1: the boy from the Northern Beaches who used to go
Speaker 1: out like fishing with his friends. The glaze over his
Speaker 1: eyes and he was like, oh, yes, the Sydney Orchestra,
Speaker 1: this is exactly what I want to do with my
Speaker 1: Saturday nights.
Speaker 2: Actually, to be fair, probably knows half of them because
Speaker 2: they're friends with his parents.
Speaker 1: But you know what, the real crux of this date,
Speaker 1: the real takeo message, was that there was another rumor
Speaker 1: to debunk and unfortunately your Jay Chessco, the one that
Speaker 1: you've been rooting for since day dot, once upon a
Speaker 1: time dated somebody in the public eye. As though that's
Speaker 1: like really sorted in like a terrible offense. You can't
Speaker 1: possibly go on The Bachelor if you've once upon a
Speaker 1: time dated someone who was in the public eye.
Speaker 2: No, don't you think in Jimmy's defense, don't you think
Speaker 2: that if you've got a track record of being attracted
Speaker 2: to people who are in the public eye and now
Speaker 2: you're on a show like The Bachelor, it kind of
Speaker 2: starts to give a bit of it an indication that
Speaker 2: your objective is to just be someone who's famous, a
Speaker 2: bit of a clout chaser.
Speaker 1: Well, we do go on to find that the person
Speaker 1: who Jay dated was actually the Bachelor in New Zealand.
Speaker 1: But you know what, guys, if you haven't listened to
Speaker 1: the interview that we did with Jay which came out yesterday,
Speaker 1: we asked her the hard questions. We got to the
Speaker 1: bottom of it, and Jay actually dated this guy when
Speaker 1: he was twenty six years old, and now she's like,
Speaker 1: what in her thirties. It was six years ago and
Speaker 1: he has only just become the Bachelor now. But the
Speaker 1: way that the editing and it all kind of came together,
Speaker 1: it was so obvious that there was such a big
Speaker 1: chunk of that story that was missing, and it made
Speaker 1: it seem like she literally just jumped from like the
Speaker 1: New Zealand Bachelor straight into the Australian one and was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna snag myself. Is it snag myself or bag myself?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bag myself a bachelor snag bag.
Speaker 2: I think that both. I wasn't gonna say anything. I
Speaker 2: was like, snag right up, baby.
Speaker 1: Stop smelling your croc. Matt just took his shoe off
Speaker 1: halfway through and started smelling his sweaty croc. I'm glad
Speaker 1: that you're enjoying this so much.
Speaker 2: Well, do your croc sweat You've got like the inner padding,
Speaker 2: so you're minded like the pure plastic ones.
Speaker 1: Mine of the fleece lined crocs. They're a little bit sweaty,
Speaker 1: but they're also particularly warm and insulated.
Speaker 2: Mina just quite plasticky and sweaty and stinky. Anyway, where were.
Speaker 1: We We're talking about Jay and how she likes to
Speaker 1: bag herself or snag herself a bachelor.
Speaker 2: Look, okay, Jay is innocent in this rumor once again.
Speaker 2: But the thing that I found really interesting is that
Speaker 2: she didn't really give my like she really needed to
Speaker 2: open up and be like, hey, Jimmy May I think
Speaker 2: you're incredible. You're the matter of my dreams. I can
Speaker 2: see myself falling in love with you. She didn't really
Speaker 2: give much. She was like, I like your shoes.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, to be fair, she did open up
Speaker 1: a little bit. She did tell Jimmy that she could
Speaker 1: see how well and perfectly he would fit into her life.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're fit in really well with how
Speaker 1: I like to live my life and the things that
Speaker 1: I enjoy, you know, because I like to date bachelor's
Speaker 1: and all.
Speaker 2: Then in there I was like, mate, just send her
Speaker 2: home right now. Don't even bring it to a rose ceremony.
Speaker 2: There's no point, although.
Speaker 1: You do kind of think, and I guess I've been
Speaker 1: feeling this the whole way along. Well, I mean, at
Speaker 1: least since Brooke came back. You can tell how extremely
Speaker 1: emotionally invested Brook is, right, and like Holly as well,
Speaker 1: the two girls that have gone through to number one
Speaker 1: and number two are intensely emotionally invested. I didn't feel
Speaker 1: like Jay was that intensely emotionally invested, not at all.
Speaker 2: Nah.
Speaker 1: I kind of think if Jimmy was one hundred percent
Speaker 1: either way Brook or Holly, if he knew what he
Speaker 1: wanted to pick, he should have taken Jay to number
Speaker 1: two was like a buffer because I don't think she
Speaker 1: would have been as heartbroken as Brook or Holly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just think at this point I could
Speaker 2: just tell that he had the ick. I think the
Speaker 2: relationship with Jay had totally run its course.
Speaker 1: And also, to be fair, he would not have wanted
Speaker 1: Jay to win, and come second he was like, fuck you,
Speaker 1: I'll get rid of you at number three. And so
Speaker 1: that is a wrap on Jay's day. Let's get on
Speaker 1: down to Brookie Walkie town. Oh, Brookie.
Speaker 2: It was a very cute little date for her. I
Speaker 2: was trying to figure out how they're going to make
Speaker 2: it work with puppy, tying it back to her personality.
Speaker 2: But it was like, because she's an occupational therapist, which
Speaker 2: I don't really understand exactly what that does, but apparently
Speaker 2: it's to allow people to get back into the workforce.
Speaker 1: Wow, I did not get that. That was a very
Speaker 1: tenuous stretch of a link. The whole time I was
Speaker 1: watching that, I was like, Okay, this data is supposed
Speaker 1: to be about them, like share a little bit about
Speaker 1: their personality, and here we are with Brookie and a
Speaker 1: puppy and then her talking about her tingling overies.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's not as if Jimmy's going to play
Speaker 2: with a puppy. Then go, hang on a second. I
Speaker 2: do love brook and I would.
Speaker 1: Like to have her babies very very soon. The more
Speaker 1: I hold Regan, the more I'm like, oh god, Jimmy
Speaker 1: is so good at this and it's really sexy.
Speaker 2: I would totally have a baby with them.
Speaker 1: I feel so uncomfortable and like my heart hurts now
Speaker 1: that we all know what happens, We all know what
Speaker 1: happens to Brookie Wookie to be able to like talk
Speaker 1: about this date now just oh, it fills me with
Speaker 1: so much uncomfortable anxiety. She's going to get a heart smashed.
Speaker 2: She is into Jimmy hook Line and Sinker, and.
Speaker 1: She makes it very clear that in her own head,
Speaker 1: it's going to be her at the finish line. Like
Speaker 1: she keeps saying to him, you know that she feels
Speaker 1: like she's in a relationship with him, that she feels
Speaker 1: like he's her boyfriend already. And I feel like that
Speaker 1: at this point in time, when there's still two other
Speaker 1: girls in the race, that's a really big steak to
Speaker 1: claim your man at that's not the same that shouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise anywhere.
Speaker 2: Brookie Wookie really wants to sex it up, so she
Speaker 2: brings him to a spa.
Speaker 1: The only thing that makes me feel more uncomfortable than
Speaker 1: knowing that it's not brook and her wanting to share
Speaker 1: her undying love for him is Brooke talking about how
Speaker 1: she wants to get sexy for Jimmy. That also makes
Speaker 1: me really uncomfortable. Feels like a little like it feels
Speaker 1: like a little child being like I'm going to show
Speaker 1: him my sexy side that was like, oh, Brookie, just stop.
Speaker 1: You're an angel, You're a virtuine ah.
Speaker 2: It was too much for me, you know, I felt
Speaker 2: sorry for Holly. You know, this whole time, She's had
Speaker 2: so many dates where she's had to swim in a swamp.
Speaker 2: On the last day, she had to swim in the ocean,
Speaker 2: which is about two degrees and now Brookie gets an
Speaker 2: indoor spa with a heated water. I mean, the girls
Speaker 2: live in large.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine the conversations they're having now, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: why'd you take you to that swamp? Jimmy, you all
Speaker 1: up there in the hot sawna rubbing yourself all over
Speaker 1: brooking anyway, I wouldn't want to be a fly on
Speaker 1: that wall. But to be honest, look, it was another
Speaker 1: pretty non eventful date. I felt like this episode was
Speaker 1: not my favorite episode. It was a bit non exciting,
Speaker 1: a bit non eventful.
Speaker 2: It was my favorite of the entire season.
Speaker 1: Why was that, Maddie Jay?
Speaker 2: It was? It was just it had it all. It
Speaker 2: had spas, It had boats, kayaks, puppy dogs, and orchestras, and.
Speaker 1: It also had Brooks gy rating on Jimmy and a spa.
Speaker 2: And that's what I live for.
Speaker 1: I think it is important to note that, like production
Speaker 1: really went hard on trying to make us think that
Speaker 1: this is going to be Brookie at the end. Like
Speaker 1: that was a very steamy little spa date. Wait didn't
Speaker 1: you get the spa date with Georgia Love?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but on that spa date it was a little
Speaker 2: bit different because we were shooting it like out way
Speaker 2: west in Sydney. We were like like kind of towards
Speaker 2: Blue mountains and somebody in the art departs and he
Speaker 2: looks after all the props forgot to turn the spa on.
Speaker 2: So it was the coldest water I have ever been.
Speaker 2: And they were like, all right, guys, we're ready to
Speaker 2: jump into the spa. So we hopped in there and
Speaker 2: it was like freezing, like it took your breath away,
Speaker 2: and it was so cold to the point where you
Speaker 2: could barely get any words out at all. And they
Speaker 2: were like, hey, you know, we're so sorry. We just
Speaker 2: need five minutes in the waters and we can call
Speaker 2: it quits and you guys can hop out. So we
Speaker 2: were in there shivering, could barely get a word out,
Speaker 2: And if you watch it back, it makes me look
Speaker 2: more nervous than cold, which I guess kind of worked.
Speaker 2: But yeah, freaking art department, new assholes.
Speaker 1: I am sitting here with my jaw on the table
Speaker 1: listening to this guy. So Matt's obviously talking about the
Speaker 1: spa date that he had with Georgia Love, not with me.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a spa date with him. I had
Speaker 1: no idea that that was the case. I just thought that, like,
Speaker 1: you were so nervous and like jittery with nerves. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize that you were fucking freezing. That changes things
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: Oh, I hate till both of us we hate it
Speaker 2: every second. It was honestly some of the coldest ward
Speaker 2: I've ever been in because we're shooting it like in
Speaker 2: the middle of winter out near that Blue mountains, and
Speaker 2: it was about ten o'clock at night. It was just
Speaker 2: an absolute nightmare.
Speaker 1: That is the most miserable intimacy scene I've ever heard of.
Speaker 1: And that was when you were supposed to tell her
Speaker 1: that you loved her.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and I love a spa.
Speaker 1: It doesn't love a spar I was like, Oh.
Speaker 2: Great, this is gonna be fun. We've got champagne, we've
Speaker 2: got some chocolate. Let's do it. And then I hopped
Speaker 2: in there and it was like jumping in the water
Speaker 2: with Titanic.
Speaker 1: I my god, even But also, do you know what
Speaker 1: I'm realizing now? This is my revelation. The spa is
Speaker 1: a number two thing. Bella also got the spa. Bella
Speaker 1: got the spa, Brook got the Spa. Maddie j got
Speaker 1: the Spa, the Spa of death. You took a lise
Speaker 1: in a spa too, Holy shit, nobody ever wants to
Speaker 1: go in a spa. You're on the back of a
Speaker 1: boat with a lise in a spa, right, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it's the death of the Spa. Hey, some living in
Speaker 1: the past. Let's focus on the future. Let's focus on
Speaker 1: the row ceremony. All right, Well, Jay goes home. Look,
Speaker 1: it's no surprise to anyone. She was on her way out,
Speaker 1: has been for weeks. Finally, Jimmy King, all right, she
Speaker 1: didn't seem that sad.
Speaker 2: Bye.
Speaker 1: I think she seemed shocked. I think Jay was very
Speaker 1: surprised that she went home in that moment, but she
Speaker 1: didn't seem overly sad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wasn't really expecting her to be that
Speaker 2: sad because she never really opened up that much like
Speaker 2: she was never in love with the guy. You know.
Speaker 2: She was always like, yeah, things are going alright, and
Speaker 2: he seems pretty cool. But if she was like, hey,
Speaker 2: this guy is really the man of my dreams, then
Speaker 2: I would have felt so sorry for her. But now
Speaker 2: I'm just annoyed that she cost me the wind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fifty bucks and the good old sleep in
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get now.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk about finale. Laura Byrne. Can you believe
Speaker 2: we have made it to the finale? What a long,
Speaker 2: tenuous journey it's been to get here.
Speaker 1: We made it. It is ten thirty at night. Guys,
Speaker 1: We've crawled inself closer and closer to bringing you the
Speaker 1: final episode of About Chunkut and then you never have
Speaker 1: to hear from her skin real we are.
Speaker 2: We're surrounded by empty bottles of wine. There's takeaway containers
Speaker 2: on the.
Speaker 1: Table, condoms everywhere.
Speaker 2: I wish.
Speaker 1: Oh, do you know what? I'm a fucking emotional wreck
Speaker 1: after that episode.
Speaker 2: Rookie Wookie didn't get a cookie.
Speaker 1: You can't say that. I am actually feeling some PTSD
Speaker 1: after that episode.
Speaker 2: It was a brutal finale, absolutely gut wrenching.
Speaker 1: And if you didn't know Matt deals with his trauma
Speaker 1: by making jokes about it.
Speaker 2: I can only make a joke about it because I've
Speaker 2: been there before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've been runner up.
Speaker 2: I know what it feels like and it sucks. But
Speaker 2: if you don't laugh, you cry. Look, filming was a
Speaker 2: little while ago, so hopefully she's doing a lot better
Speaker 2: than what we saw tonight.
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's get into talking about the family, because you
Speaker 1: know what, Jimmy brought his mom, his dad, his sister,
Speaker 1: and his cousin.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing that I find really weird. Normally,
Speaker 2: the finale is saved for your immediate family, so like, yeah,
Speaker 2: your mom or your brothers and sisters. He brought his cousin.
Speaker 2: His cousin's just like, hey, where are you guys going,
Speaker 2: Alice Springs? Fuck, yeah, I'm coming too.
Speaker 1: Okay. I didn't think that this was that weird. I
Speaker 1: actually thought it was like pretty normal.
Speaker 2: And then the more say anything, you just sat there
Speaker 2: and ate the cheese and the sandwiches on the table.
Speaker 1: The more we talked about it, Matt was like, you
Speaker 1: aren't even close with your cousins, Like, do you know
Speaker 1: anyone who would bring their cousin to the Bachelor Finale,
Speaker 1: like and now they think about it, No, I don't.
Speaker 2: It is weird. Jimmy weird never been done before, but
Speaker 2: he was probably like, what are you doing here, Chantell.
Speaker 1: She's like, Eh, she's got like a handful of cumb sandwiches.
Speaker 2: On Family are delicious.
Speaker 1: They were a bit critical of the girls, but we're
Speaker 1: going to get into that. First off the ranks, we
Speaker 1: have Rookie Wookie, who didn't get a cookie Paul. Brookie
Speaker 1: has just said that, you know, she finds it really
Speaker 1: hard meeting new partner's parents because she's had a really
Speaker 1: difficult relationship in the past with her ex and her
Speaker 1: ex's parents, and you know, she feels like maybe she's
Speaker 1: going to overcompensate. And she walks in to meet Jimmy's
Speaker 1: parents and like she doesn't disappoint, she certainly certainly does.
Speaker 1: Brook walks in there looking like she's just done six
Speaker 1: espresso Martiniz, which is exactly what she looked like on
Speaker 1: her last single date.
Speaker 2: Starbucks, Thank you.
Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you also by Starbucks. Her
Speaker 1: poor fucking eyes were just popping out of her head.
Speaker 1: She was like, and it's so good to meet you.
Speaker 2: Well to be fair, She did answer some of the
Speaker 2: questions okay, like, for example, what do you struggle with
Speaker 2: the most, and she said, you know, with the other
Speaker 2: girls and being jealous. Great answer, very good point. However,
Speaker 2: she did start to go into details about when she
Speaker 2: was trying to deflower their son and she was in
Speaker 2: the spa with him on the last day. Very unnecessary.
Speaker 1: Imagine like going and meeting a someone's family for the
Speaker 1: first time, like taking your new partner to meet your
Speaker 1: mom and your new partner says, yeah, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to get really sexy on our last date. I would
Speaker 1: be like, please stop speaking now.
Speaker 2: Ye how are things with How are things with my son? Great?
Speaker 2: I gave him a hand job yesterday.
Speaker 1: I showed him my sexy side.
Speaker 2: Well that's fantastic. You guys look really happy together.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, Jimmy's dad was pretty approving of it.
Speaker 1: To be fair, though Brook walked in she hadn't said
Speaker 1: one thing, and Jimmy's dad was like, you are beautiful.
Speaker 1: I am sold. He didn't even really speak to Brook
Speaker 1: from what we saw. Jimmy's mom did, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: and Jimmy's mom was like, I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is a good match, and Jimmy's dad was like, nope,
Speaker 1: she's perfect. You will never speak poor of my Brookie walking.
Speaker 1: She looks amazing.
Speaker 2: But I did feel sorry for brook when she got
Speaker 2: taken away for the one on one chat with her
Speaker 2: mum and they went to this like rusted old shed
Speaker 2: that they were sitting down on. It was like such
Speaker 2: a weird interrogation spot. And that's when things really started
Speaker 2: to unravel. You know, she was just digging her own grave,
Speaker 2: saying like, I'm really clingy, I'm actually quite needy, I'm
Speaker 2: very spiritual, and then she started crying.
Speaker 1: It's nothing quite like saying that you're spiritual and then
Speaker 1: bursting out and tears to really win over a parent.
Speaker 1: I cried when I met your mom in Thailand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you didn't say that you were clingy and needy.
Speaker 2: I didn't, and then say you're very spiritual.
Speaker 1: I said, I was falling in love with you. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm falling in love with your son, and
Speaker 1: then I cried, which also just made me look clingy
Speaker 1: and needy and spiritual without actually saying those words to
Speaker 1: your mum.
Speaker 2: Mom came back and was like tutting on about that.
Speaker 2: Laura Burn girl.
Speaker 1: That's all right, your mum loves me now. I won
Speaker 1: her over in time.
Speaker 2: But the but Jimmy's mum she does not approve of Brook.
Speaker 1: She doesn't and she does go back and she says
Speaker 1: that she can see some flags, some red flags in
Speaker 1: Brook and Jimmy's relationship that she thinks will be a
Speaker 1: problem down the track. One thing I do want to say, though,
Speaker 1: is like it's very easy for us to sit here
Speaker 1: and poke fun at that meeting of like Brook me
Speaker 1: eating Jimmy's parents for the first times, and how intense
Speaker 1: she came across, and how like all in and yes,
Speaker 1: she said some things that I think, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say them meeting a parent for the first time,
Speaker 1: but she was being her genuine self. And one thing
Speaker 1: I really loved about this is like she was not
Speaker 1: trying to put it on or say the right things.
Speaker 1: Like Brook is very very aware that some of the
Speaker 1: things about her do not line up with what Jimmy wants.
Speaker 1: And she hasn't lied at any point or tried to
Speaker 1: like fabricate an outcome, And I think that that's really
Speaker 1: fucking admirable. At this point in time, it would be
Speaker 1: so easy to say I'm not clinging. I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not codependent in relationships. I'm super fine. I'm independent.
Speaker 1: Just because you wanted the guy to choose you, I'm
Speaker 1: like really proud of her and we should stop picking
Speaker 1: on Brookie because she did that. She like was true
Speaker 1: to herself.
Speaker 2: My approach in those kind of situations is always just
Speaker 2: to lie and tell the person that's asking the questions
Speaker 2: what they want to hear.
Speaker 1: It definitely would get you further in life. It may
Speaker 1: get you winning the Bachelor. However, it may not give
Speaker 1: you a long term relationship.
Speaker 2: Never be honest.
Speaker 1: You know what tomorrow's problems are, Tomorrow's problem. That's how
Speaker 1: I like to look at these things.
Speaker 2: All right, that's Brooke done. Now time for hold dog
Speaker 2: And can I just say, is it me or has
Speaker 2: Holly's teeth gotten whiter?
Speaker 1: I think it's just that Carly's teeth have left the
Speaker 1: building and so now there's no point of comparison. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: without Carly there just makes Holly's teeth illuminate even more.
Speaker 2: Or she comes in and it's a little bit of
Speaker 2: a tricky situation for Holly because she's got beef with
Speaker 2: Jimmy's sister from the last time they met, and see
Speaker 2: they don't seem to be getting along. Now. Holly has
Speaker 2: a chat with Jimmy's dad and I think it's going
Speaker 2: pretty well.
Speaker 1: I think all of Australia thinks it's going pretty well.
Speaker 2: And even when they return to the table, Jimmy's dad
Speaker 2: is like, do you know what that was great? You're
Speaker 2: an awesome chick. I really like you.
Speaker 1: So Holly also thinks it's going well until she leaves.
Speaker 1: The minute Holly walks away from the table, She's like,
Speaker 1: it's been so great to meet everyone. I like, you know,
Speaker 1: your family seems wonderful, especially your dad. Holly walks away
Speaker 1: and Jimmy's dad's like, I fucking hate her. Yeah, hit
Speaker 1: did the old bait and switch on her.
Speaker 2: So this is awkward because one of the parents' is
Speaker 2: team Brooke and the other's team Holly.
Speaker 1: Imagine bringing your parents all the way to Alice Springs
Speaker 1: for them to be absolutely no help.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just annoyed that he didn't ask his cousin
Speaker 2: for some advice.
Speaker 1: Well, she was also there just for a free holiday
Speaker 1: and to be absolutely no help. She's over at the cafeteria,
Speaker 1: sitting down with your parents and saying, can you please
Speaker 1: pick a girlfriend for me? Which one fifty to fifty?
Speaker 2: And did it all the time with my mom?
Speaker 1: Well, you actually did do that with your mum. It's
Speaker 1: actually now that I think about.
Speaker 2: It, Yes, so I can imagine, and yes I can
Speaker 2: done it.
Speaker 1: What did your mom say after meeting Alisea?
Speaker 2: And I I can't remember.
Speaker 1: That is so untrue and also incredibly useless. Your mum
Speaker 1: was also just there for the free holiday tailer.
Speaker 2: My brother was like, it is weird that Laura doesn't
Speaker 2: have any hobbies.
Speaker 1: And only talks about salcidancy.
Speaker 2: I do you remember that part? He was like, really,
Speaker 2: big red flags here, just be careful.
Speaker 1: Did he really say that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Anyway, Look, so the parents are completely useless. We realized that,
Speaker 1: and now Jimmy's left all to his own. He does
Speaker 1: make the comment though, that he spends one day with
Speaker 1: Brooke and it's going to be Brooke, and then he
Speaker 1: spends the next day with Holly, which then leads us
Speaker 1: into the single dates with this episode, and the first
Speaker 1: date is Brook and I think maybe he just picked
Speaker 1: Holly because she was the last date that he had.
Speaker 2: He was like, he's just going to make it easy
Speaker 2: for himself.
Speaker 1: Brook and Jimmy have a hot air balloon. It's very romantic.
Speaker 2: Can I just say, have you ever been on a
Speaker 2: hot air balloon? Laura? No, it's actually a bit of
Speaker 2: a nightmare.
Speaker 1: When have you been on a hot air balloon?
Speaker 2: I was up in North Queensland for the travel show
Speaker 2: I was doing, and it's really quite annoying because you
Speaker 2: got to wake up at three o'clock in the morning
Speaker 2: and you're up super super early, and you're so tired.
Speaker 2: But obviously it's very beautiful for the sunrise, but you're
Speaker 2: just more exhausted than anything else.
Speaker 1: I think Brook is pretty excited from the minute that
Speaker 1: she's in the car. She's like, God, the sun is rising.
Speaker 1: Brook's enthusiasm for everything is completely endearing, and that's so endearing,
Speaker 1: and that's obviously one of the things that Jimmy really
Speaker 1: really loves about her. And like this whole like just
Speaker 1: excitement for life, you know, excitement for any activity.
Speaker 2: Look. To be honest, not a lot happens on the
Speaker 2: single dates, but you don't really expect much on these
Speaker 2: dates other than the fact that it's just one more
Speaker 2: opportunity for the woman to say, Hey, this is exactly
Speaker 2: how I feel about you. The tough thing about Brook
Speaker 2: is the fact that she wholeheartedly believes that she is
Speaker 2: going to end up with Jimmy.
Speaker 1: It's really interesting, isn't it, Because she is actually so
Speaker 1: endearing in that, Like the way that she speaks and
Speaker 1: the things that she says on anybody else coming out
Speaker 1: of anybody else's mouth would come across as like arrogant
Speaker 1: and cocky. Her saying like, I know what's going to
Speaker 1: be us at the end. I know it's you and me,
Speaker 1: Like I know that you feel the same way. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's a really overly confident thing to say,
Speaker 1: and not many people have that like level of blind
Speaker 1: faith about what they're embarking on because obviously there's still
Speaker 1: another girl in there. But the way she says it,
Speaker 1: it doesn't come across as arrogant. It still comes across
Speaker 1: as really innocent. Like I still think that there's something
Speaker 1: about her and the things that she's saying that was
Speaker 1: really endearing, and it just set us up for such
Speaker 1: a big fucking heartbreak at the end when it all
Speaker 1: came crashing down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the one thing that you hear time
Speaker 2: and time again from so many people who go on
Speaker 2: these shows is the fact that they expect the worst
Speaker 2: but hope for the best. And the annoying thing about
Speaker 2: Brook is that without this little safety mechanism that she's got,
Speaker 2: she is going to fall so hard. Like you said,
Speaker 2: now we have the very last date of this season,
Speaker 2: and it is with Holly. This is the very last
Speaker 2: single date of the season, and it's also the last
Speaker 2: chance for Captain Kinki to flex his pilot muscle.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not going to be the only muscle that
Speaker 1: he's been flexing. Let's be real. I'm sure him and
Speaker 1: Number one will be getting some one on one time
Speaker 1: at the very end of this not date.
Speaker 2: But you know you're talking about it's cock an.
Speaker 1: Captain Kinky. It's been aware at the sexual innuendo has
Speaker 1: been on this episode.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I found a little bit awkward
Speaker 2: about the start of this date is that it was
Speaker 2: set up by Jimmy explaining that him and his dad
Speaker 2: did this beautiful trip to Ularu on a plane. And
Speaker 2: I can't help but think this is the same dad
Speaker 2: that absolutely hates Holly.
Speaker 1: Not to make it any worse than that, or any
Speaker 1: more awkward. But the fact that they then go and
Speaker 1: enjoy the beautiful scenes of Ularu and Jimmy's dad, who
Speaker 1: doesn't like Holly, then crashes the date.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that so fucking weird?
Speaker 1: What I don't understand, though, is like, oh, that whole
Speaker 1: date and how beautiful it was. Why did his parents
Speaker 1: crashing the date go for so long? Like I felt
Speaker 1: like half the days, literally half the date. It was like,
Speaker 1: instead of focusing on the romance or whatever it was
Speaker 1: they talked about, it was literally Jimmy's mum and dad.
Speaker 2: And they were like, what are you guys doing. Oh,
Speaker 2: we're doing the walking tour. Oh great, we might do
Speaker 2: that tomorrow. Yeah. Do you guys have wine? Yeah? We do.
Speaker 1: Oh you got wine and cheese too. Oh. I like
Speaker 1: your jackets they're matching. That's cute.
Speaker 2: We'll see you at breakfast one morning.
Speaker 1: How fun was the five seconds of watching Jimmy's mum
Speaker 1: and dad just walk away wearing their matching jackets.
Speaker 2: It was so weird. It was like they needed thirty
Speaker 2: seven of filler. What was that about?
Speaker 1: I think productions trying to make it like more unreal,
Speaker 1: like a little bit more behind the scenes lifting the
Speaker 1: lid on reality TV if you will.
Speaker 2: So all gonna. Then they just go back to kissing
Speaker 2: in front of Laru beautiful.
Speaker 1: Which also makes you think that, like they've sectioned off
Speaker 1: this special area for them to be. There's obviously other people.
Speaker 1: There's tourists who are all there looking.
Speaker 2: At Ularu on the trip of a lifetime.
Speaker 1: Jimmy and Holly just had this little sectioned off bit
Speaker 1: where some security yards like, come on down here, have
Speaker 1: your wine here. Also, I want to know what temperature
Speaker 1: it is where they are. One would think that in
Speaker 1: Ularu it's quite warm. And I say this because Holly's
Speaker 1: there wearing a little playsuit. Jimmy's wearing a T shirt
Speaker 1: or something and that sort of description. And then there's
Speaker 1: Jimmy's mum and dad both wearing puffer jackets.
Speaker 2: Again, thermals and beanies and gloves. Holly's got hypothermia again.
Speaker 1: I really hope that Jimmy just has Holly like rugged up.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Holly's like, I never want to leave the central heating
Speaker 1: of Eastern suburbs.
Speaker 2: Look at the end of their day's it's quite nice,
Speaker 2: quite nice sticks all the boxes, you know, She whispers,
Speaker 2: I really do love you, and then the kisses are
Speaker 2: on the forehead. It's quite beautiful.
Speaker 1: You know what they say about fore head kisses.
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: It's how fuck boys suck the sense out of your brain.
Speaker 1: Poor Holly's just there getting lulled further and further and
Speaker 1: further into a false sense of security. Ny levitating out
Speaker 1: of the body. Anyway, look, it's a very lovely day.
Speaker 1: At this point in time, they've done a pretty good job.
Speaker 1: I would say that this season for me was like
Speaker 1: the biggest cliffhanger season. I was not sure which way
Speaker 1: it was. I mean, I don't know, Okay, I've been
Speaker 1: holdogs since the number one episode, but genuinely in this
Speaker 1: episode I had real moments of like, holy shit, now.
Speaker 2: Hang on a second. Let's let's remember last season with
Speaker 2: Lockey Arena Bella that was like we didn't know what
Speaker 2: was happening.
Speaker 1: Then that is true, But like we said at the
Speaker 1: beginning of this episode, Lockie also didn't know. He woke
Speaker 1: up that day, flipped a coin and then figured it out.
Speaker 1: But look at them now. He made the right decision.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I love about the finale moment
Speaker 2: is that Osher is there standing waiting for Jimmy to arrive,
Speaker 2: and then in the distance you see Jimmy walking down
Speaker 2: and Osha goes.
Speaker 1: He is doing his best. David Atton Brough always come
Speaker 1: on the Majestic Bachelor approaches in the wilderness of Oololu. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that joke went on, okay, but can you tell me
Speaker 1: what you thought? Did you think it was a pretty
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty split or by this time, were you
Speaker 1: like more in Camp Holly or more in Camp Brook. No.
Speaker 2: I think I was thinking it was going to be Holly.
Speaker 2: I mean, I felt for Brooke. I obviously want Brook
Speaker 2: to be in love, but I just thought Holly just
Speaker 2: made a lot more sense. Everything about Holly just for me,
Speaker 2: ticked all the boxes.
Speaker 1: We've made it all the way to the end. We've
Speaker 1: had some highs, we've had some lows. You and me
Speaker 1: have had some fights, we've had some good lass We've
Speaker 1: had some good times each other.
Speaker 2: More for this, I don't know what date is. I
Speaker 2: don't know what the time is.
Speaker 1: It's currently twenty minutes past eleven and we're still recording,
Speaker 1: and hopefully by the time this ends up in your
Speaker 1: libraries tomorrow, we're not delirious and we're still together.
Speaker 2: I hope people listen to this episode.
Speaker 1: I still love you, honey, even if this has almost
Speaker 1: been the fucking undoing of us. All Right, so we're here.
Speaker 1: It's the very final. It's the final final, the very final.
Speaker 1: There will be no more on cause people. And unfortunately
Speaker 1: Channel ten once again, they thought that they would fool
Speaker 1: us with a little little dress, the foot out the door.
Speaker 1: Then Holly walked up with a producer. It was all weird.
Speaker 2: It wasn't it strange? I've been so tricky here. Holly
Speaker 2: walked down, she got stopped by a producer, and then
Speaker 2: the camera pans down to the rock and then pans
Speaker 2: back up and like magic, it's now Brook.
Speaker 1: But also, can you remember that on Abby and Chelsea's
Speaker 1: season they did the exact same thing. They had Chelsea
Speaker 1: get out the car first, and I think it was
Speaker 1: such a huge and like impactful bait and switch that
Speaker 1: then they were like, oh, oh, we're going to try
Speaker 1: it again on this season. But like it's almost too mean,
Speaker 1: especially when someone as like vulnerable and heartbroken as Brook
Speaker 1: is standing there, Like the bait and switch was too cruel.
Speaker 2: I feel like they do that in the States quite
Speaker 2: a lot, but now it's very on trend here in Australia.
Speaker 1: I just want to go back to the stock standard.
Speaker 1: The first foot out of the car is on the
Speaker 1: way out of there, like she's got one foot in
Speaker 1: the uber of one on the way to see Jimmy,
Speaker 1: and then she's just gonna go home. I live for
Speaker 1: those old days.
Speaker 2: But wasn't it just one of the most awful scenes
Speaker 2: to watch? It was like, you know, watching a car crash,
Speaker 2: You know you wanted to turn the TV off. Poor
Speaker 2: old Brookie just getting a heart ripped out and stumped
Speaker 2: on by Jimmy. It was just brutal.
Speaker 1: It was honestly like the saddest Bachelor finale I think
Speaker 1: I have ever seen. And one of the really difficult
Speaker 1: parts for that was that I think watching how sad
Speaker 1: brook was, it wasn't enough buffering to kind of allow
Speaker 1: us to feel really happy for Holly, Like and I
Speaker 1: have been so excited about Holly. I am rooting for
Speaker 1: this from day one, and even I felt like I
Speaker 1: couldn't be fully excited about her finale, about what they
Speaker 1: said to each other and about their love story, just
Speaker 1: because this was so much about Brooks heartbreak and that
Speaker 1: in that moment was pretty devastating totally.
Speaker 2: And then it was so awkward as well when Jimmy's
Speaker 2: mom and dad just walked into frame. I came still
Speaker 2: on their tour.
Speaker 1: They're on the walking tour.
Speaker 2: Jimmy, Hi, hey, moms, see what you're doing, Jimmy Darling,
Speaker 2: is this finale? Should we sorry? I would just have
Speaker 2: a little bit of some wine and some cheese over here.
Speaker 1: Who did you pick?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh? Not brook Oh sorry, brook Oh we'll be back
Speaker 1: in fifteen. Brooklyn didn't get the cookie. It's so rough.
Speaker 1: It is so rough. It's so rough seeing someone be
Speaker 1: completely heartbroken. It honestly felt like Jimmy had kicked a puppy.
Speaker 1: It looked like he'd just kicked Reagan, the puppy from
Speaker 1: the previous episode.
Speaker 2: It was worse than that. I think something else that
Speaker 2: I really didn't like as well is that where they
Speaker 2: were located in the bottom of this gorge, which was
Speaker 2: a beautiful setting. By the way, the issue is to
Speaker 2: walk away. It was kind of went on forever, you know,
Speaker 2: you had to like walk on what seemed like half
Speaker 2: a kilometer. So it's like Jimmy's just standing there, He's
Speaker 2: in tears, and then Brooks and freaking high heels, like
Speaker 2: stomping through rocks and like climbing this gorge to get
Speaker 2: back to the car park. It's like, come on.
Speaker 1: It's literally like the worst walk of shame you could
Speaker 1: ever do in your entire life, Like there is nothing
Speaker 1: worse than that walk of shame. And then getting in
Speaker 1: the car and Brookers in the car and she's crying
Speaker 1: and the car is like a four wheel drive. She's
Speaker 1: getting thrown around in the back with a hard.
Speaker 2: Sign because it's so late at night. The guy's gone
Speaker 2: off road. He's like, oh shit, just keep driving. Brook's
Speaker 2: getting thrown around in the back of the car.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we see Rook's heartbreak. It is devastating, and then
Speaker 1: we do afterwards and can you tell everyone, how quick
Speaker 1: is it after you tell the person that you're going home,
Speaker 1: until you get to tell the person that you're in
Speaker 1: love with them?
Speaker 2: It's pretty quick. And I think one of the reasons
Speaker 2: why they make it so quick partly because everyone's being
Speaker 2: paid by the hour, there's a lot of crew on site,
Speaker 2: but also they're really worried about paparazzi as well spoiling
Speaker 2: the show, so they try and should it as quick
Speaker 2: as possible. I think when we did a finale, I
Speaker 2: think from when number two goes to when I then
Speaker 2: spoke to you, it's maybe five or ten minutes at
Speaker 2: the most.
Speaker 1: Which makes my mind absolutely boggle. Like the one thing
Speaker 1: I think if you're watching that closely, is like as
Speaker 1: Holy is walking towards Jimmy, Jimmy looks like he's still
Speaker 1: crying or has been crying. So if you were Holy,
Speaker 1: of course you're going to think I'm going home, like
Speaker 1: this guy is so upset to have to break my heart,
Speaker 1: but instead he's upset because he's just smashed poor little
Speaker 1: Reagan Brookie Walkie with the cookie's heart in half, like
Speaker 1: she's dead and he's still recovering from that. It just
Speaker 1: happened five seconds ago.
Speaker 2: Do you remember. Even at the end, Holly goes, oh,
Speaker 2: are they happy tears, It's like, no, no, it's when
Speaker 2: I crushed Brook's heart. That's why I was crying.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm fucked. I'm so emotionally fucked right now.
Speaker 1: It's also like, how do you go from being on
Speaker 1: such a low to such a high and then like
Speaker 1: like it's like emotional whiplash, almost.
Speaker 2: You feel quite numb in that moment. It's really hard
Speaker 2: to enjoy it. You know, it starts to I think,
Speaker 2: sync in after the actual moment's taken place, when you're
Speaker 2: with number one. Look, I know it's really hard to
Speaker 2: ignore the heartbreak from Brook, but let's not forget that
Speaker 2: there is a really incredible love story between Jimmy and Holly.
Speaker 1: And I also think as well, like I know, like
Speaker 1: it's went downhill, Like you cannot not focus on how
Speaker 1: sad that situation was with Brooke. I know that the
Speaker 1: Instagram and like our Facebook was blowing up and everyone
Speaker 1: kind of almost did a one eighty and wanted to
Speaker 1: protect her a little bit. But I just go back
Speaker 1: to thinking about when we interviewed Jimmy earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: and he was so fucking stoked about the person that
Speaker 1: he's now dating, and like to be able to put
Speaker 1: a face to that person and for him to say
Speaker 1: how in love with her he is. He also mentioned
Speaker 1: to us that like after the show finished filming and
Speaker 1: they got to spend that really special time together because
Speaker 1: you go away and you get to spend a couple
Speaker 1: of days without any film crew or cameraman or anything
Speaker 1: just on your own, like away off in the mountains,
Speaker 1: like it secluded, and he said that that's where he
Speaker 1: felt like their relationship really solidified and grew.
Speaker 2: Well, that's because you have sex about eighty five thousand
Speaker 2: times in the space of three days.
Speaker 1: There is nothing else to do. There's literally no internet,
Speaker 1: there's no like, barely a TV. All you do is
Speaker 1: have sex until you can't walk.
Speaker 2: And that is why we'd love the Bachelor.
Speaker 1: That is an insight into our relationship and not anymore. Also,
Speaker 1: I really hope that they wear protection otherwise they're going
Speaker 1: to have a baby within the year. That's also another
Speaker 1: Bachelor number here for it. Can't wait, churn burn and
Speaker 1: push them out. That was weird. That is it from us?
Speaker 1: This was such a big episode, guys, it's so late.
Speaker 1: We have done an absolute best on this one. But
Speaker 1: we have loved so much bringing you these batch uncut episodes.
Speaker 1: We are interviewing Holly and Jimmy in just a couple
Speaker 1: of hours.
Speaker 2: What time is that interview booked in for?
Speaker 1: Way too early and we need to get to bed.
Speaker 1: We're actually interviewing them tomorrow, which is Friday for us,
Speaker 1: but it's today for you. If you're listening to this,
Speaker 1: so that's going to be a little bit of weird
Speaker 1: podcasting inception. We have reached out to Brook because we
Speaker 1: really want to interview her as well. However, at the moment,
Speaker 1: we don't know whether or not she feels up for
Speaker 1: doing media or up for doing interviews, and that we
Speaker 1: totally respect that decision. If she doesn't want to come
Speaker 1: on the pod.
Speaker 2: Well, that is it. That is it. My second last
Speaker 2: ever episode with Life on Cut. I've really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: I just want to say it's been so amazing getting
Speaker 2: all the feedback from everybody on social media. When you
Speaker 2: guys say that you enjoyed the episode, honestly, it makes
Speaker 2: it so worthwhile. So thank you so much for all
Speaker 2: the positive feedback.
Speaker 1: And we all need to try and wear Maddie J
Speaker 1: down so that he'll come back and do Bachelorette with us,
Speaker 1: because right now he's a little bit unsure and we
Speaker 1: need to tell him how funny he is and how
Speaker 1: pretty he is and how and just come on, darling,
Speaker 1: do you want me to stop you.
Speaker 2: Stop me? I'm going to keep going.
Speaker 1: Laura, please store giving out our personal phone numbers on
Speaker 1: the podcast. No, guys, honestly, please slat in his DMS,
Speaker 1: convince him that you need him back for Bachelorette. I
Speaker 1: can't do this on my own, people, No, but I
Speaker 1: really can't do this on my own. The convincing all
Speaker 1: the podcast. Please let him know that you love him,
Speaker 1: and that is it from us. If you have loved
Speaker 1: the episodes, go leave a review. Tell your friends and
Speaker 1: you know the drill. Tell your mum, tell your dad,
Speaker 1: Tell your sister, and your brother, and your dog, and
Speaker 1: your cousin.
Speaker 2: And your cousin. Don't forget to tell your cousin. They
Speaker 2: need to know.
Speaker 1: Make sure you bring your cousin along and share the
Speaker 1: love because.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna the boy. They're not gonna bay the babes.