Speaker 1: I love that you've literally just walked in, and you've
Speaker 1: walked in and a wing.
Speaker 2: That's how I walk in the room.
Speaker 1: Where have you been?
Speaker 3: What have you been doing? By the way, Paul's on zoom,
Speaker 3: we can't say why. I've been told I'm not allowed to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well not until after the court case.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's an interlockery agreement involved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Trevor.
Speaker 3: Trevor Long is here. You're only here because you need
Speaker 3: a place to stay.
Speaker 2: Who sponsors this show? How are you affording me?
Speaker 3: There's no Sponsorgo we should start making up fake sponsors
Speaker 3: for this show.
Speaker 1: I don't think you should given you too.
Speaker 3: Maybe it'll be something for like blue shoe or some
Speaker 3: sort of stiffy cream.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you say.
Speaker 1: Can you read this live read for cholesterol Medication?
Speaker 2: I'll do a live read for the Man Shake?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Man Shake. Actually, you know what, what's that
Speaker 1: brand that sponsors everything? The dot com? The Ball Clippers,
Speaker 1: the Man Skates. You wouldn't be great with Man.
Speaker 2: Skates' lifestyle website. They've never reached out. What does that
Speaker 2: tell you about they're design to be involved with me?
Speaker 3: They would just be like that. Those Clippers would just
Speaker 3: get caught in his shoulders somewhere.
Speaker 2: They're like, we're worried he'll actually take his shirt off
Speaker 2: and show people what it's like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we will just stick with.
Speaker 2: Getting buff guys to shave themselves.
Speaker 4: Thanks, That's why they keep coming to me.
Speaker 1: I swear like any raiser knew your body would just
Speaker 1: look like it was burning down the Amazon. Come on, mate,
Speaker 1: what's wrong? What's wrong with you?
Speaker 2: I was actually just going to grow a beard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm desperately trying.
Speaker 2: You'll hit puberty soon, Paul.
Speaker 4: I'm desperately trying. Yeah, I hope one day to look
Speaker 4: like Gordy.
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, don't hope that any years ago.
Speaker 1: I found it.
Speaker 3: I found an old photo of myself the other day
Speaker 3: with a beard, and it's just really yeah, it's oh god,
Speaker 3: it's all kinds of no, I look like I'm from
Speaker 3: Paul's country.
Speaker 2: So I in the late nineties into the early two
Speaker 2: thousands didn't just so now I just just call this
Speaker 2: stubble right, and this is long at the moment, but
Speaker 2: it was full, like not crazy beard man stuff, But
Speaker 2: it just looked unkept like I didn't care because I
Speaker 2: didn't you been my passport photo at the time was horrible.
Speaker 1: You would have looked like a homeless terrorist.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's where I was going with it. It was
Speaker 2: really the kind of thing that you really didn't want
Speaker 2: to present at an airport.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I got a new passport, but.
Speaker 1: You enjoyed the cavity search. It works out now.
Speaker 2: And then you got to get some action. I married
Speaker 2: a long time, you know, sometimes you got to find
Speaker 2: a he is this on?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've never listened to I don't know how
Speaker 2: you start the show or anything.
Speaker 1: I do love how you rocked up in your snappy
Speaker 1: little coopra.
Speaker 4: Still, how was how was that going through?
Speaker 2: Best thing I've ever done?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so so in love with it. You do
Speaker 2: look cute in that Thank you mate. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 2: And I've always been a hatchback guy always. And then
Speaker 2: so I went to the one of the launches because
Speaker 2: it was one of those events, Paul, where there was
Speaker 2: a you know, drive days with the Murtoring journals, and
Speaker 2: then there was a fancy lifestyle thing influences. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: feel like there was some people I knew there, but anyway,
Speaker 2: and it was a pr person I'd never met before,
Speaker 2: so I just took the invite. It was the I
Speaker 2: wanted to go, so I'm like, yeah, sure cool, and
Speaker 2: drove the car and instantly in my video, like ten
Speaker 2: minute video. I wasn't even there for more than two hours.
Speaker 2: I just went on buying this car, right, and then
Speaker 2: I broke an embargo because I wasn't told there was
Speaker 2: an embargo, because they didn't think that anyone at that
Speaker 2: event would actually write a review. So I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I got home and wrote the review and you know,
Speaker 2: no drummers. And then someone reads me and goes, you know,
Speaker 2: it would be great if you just held off on that.
Speaker 2: I went why, and they go, because everyone else is
Speaker 2: holding off, And I went, well, why didn't you tell me? Mate?
Speaker 2: They panicked, panicked because I'm not shut up, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: panic because no, they panic because people like Paul would
Speaker 2: have lost their shit that a bunch of bunch of
Speaker 2: them are holding off on an embargo and all these
Speaker 2: annoying influences are now posting and I'm out here putting
Speaker 2: a reviewer, so look me with them very early, because.
Speaker 1: With all your respect, I don't think little Pablo is
Speaker 1: going to be threatened by your little review which was
Speaker 1: probably written on the bonnet of your car with a
Speaker 1: crayon and some butcher's paper.
Speaker 2: Listen, and we're.
Speaker 1: Spoken about it.
Speaker 2: We've spoken about other people in this industry, for whom
Speaker 2: you know, Paul Malman have worked with before. Trust me,
Speaker 2: they care.
Speaker 4: You know, you're absolutely spot on, Trevor. And the frustrating
Speaker 4: thing for me is I'd actually much prefer that system
Speaker 4: where you just get home and you just get it
Speaker 4: over and done with. But we have this ridiculous thing
Speaker 4: that if someone breaks an embargo by ten seconds, it
Speaker 4: is the end of the world. And to me, I
Speaker 4: just I really just think it's it's so stupid. I
Speaker 4: would just prefer to do it your way.
Speaker 2: And for me it was hilarious because initially it was
Speaker 2: just can you just take the word review out? Because
Speaker 2: it wasn't really detailed. It was just impressions more than anything.
Speaker 2: But could just take the word review out? And then
Speaker 2: a couple of hours later it was like, actually, could
Speaker 2: you delete it?
Speaker 4: There's so much.
Speaker 2: At that point, I'm like, yeah, I want to buy
Speaker 2: the car, so I'm hoping to sweet talk them here.
Speaker 2: So I took it down and everything didn't do me
Speaker 2: any favors on the car just quietly, so I shouldn't
Speaker 2: left it up. But anyway, so my first car was
Speaker 2: a say It Ibeitha and Paul that that's the reason
Speaker 2: I bought this car because Cooper is basically the brother
Speaker 2: or the sister or the love child of say It.
Speaker 2: And for me, this is just my world coming back,
Speaker 2: and so it's fucking perfect. My wife calls it a
Speaker 2: middle life crisis. I don't care.
Speaker 1: So it's like you're a virgin all over it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, nerdy little virgin all over again. Love it.
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny true if they have we had
Speaker 4: the chance of two of the Cooper factory in Spain,
Speaker 4: and is it's a bit like the Czech Republic where
Speaker 4: everyone just drives a Scota. In Spain they're all driving
Speaker 4: Sayats and yeah, it's just crazy. And it actually it's
Speaker 4: an interesting brand because we're say It is a bit
Speaker 4: sort of a bit more sort of conventional Volkswagen like
Speaker 4: Coopra is like totally the opposite. It's it's sort of young, adventurous.
Speaker 4: The styling is really out there, and it's funny. The
Speaker 4: Spanish just just kind of do their own thing, which
Speaker 4: is just hilarious within the Volkswagen group, which is just
Speaker 4: typically German exactly.
Speaker 1: I think it's great though, Like we saw some of
Speaker 1: the stuff coming out of the Munich motor Shower that
Speaker 1: trip you just did. It looked great, right, Like they.
Speaker 2: Pushed the boundaries of the concept cars and then the
Speaker 2: real cars, Paul. They don't look that.
Speaker 4: Far off, Yeah, exactly. If you look at the Taviscan,
Speaker 4: which is their suv electric car that's coming, the concept
Speaker 4: looks virtually identical to the production car. And I think
Speaker 4: that they've just given Coopra all of that leeway to
Speaker 4: do kind of whatever they want. And it's great because
Speaker 4: you have all the Volkswagen underpinnings, so you know that
Speaker 4: it's been engineered correctly, and they've just been given a
Speaker 4: bit of latitude when it comes to design and sort
Speaker 4: of making it look really cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And look, the thing is, I've always I've wanted
Speaker 2: an electric car for years. I just couldn't buy Tesla.
Speaker 2: There's fucking many of them on the road right now.
Speaker 2: It is just so Camri like, isn't it. It is
Speaker 2: hard to not look at it and just go I
Speaker 2: just don't feel you don't you want to be unique
Speaker 2: in your car.
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny.
Speaker 3: I I think at the moment with the EV landscape,
Speaker 3: there really isn't that much to choose from, and you're
Speaker 3: right like Tesla are everywhere. I think the new ones
Speaker 3: look really cool, but pick of the bunch in terms
Speaker 3: of uniqueness is definitely Coopra.
Speaker 4: Actually I don't actually think they look cool at all.
Speaker 4: I just think that they're all. They're available in what
Speaker 4: like five colors, and every cheap person gets a white one,
Speaker 4: and then everyone who wants to look cool gets a
Speaker 4: red one or a blue one, and then the rest
Speaker 4: are just these pedestrian colors in between. I just that
Speaker 4: they have completely lost their appeal.
Speaker 1: This is coming from a guy who's going to wipe.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, what's your view when you
Speaker 2: own a car? What's your view on a small update aesthetically? So,
Speaker 2: for example, if I just bought a Model three, I
Speaker 2: would be out of my mind with the fear of
Speaker 2: that new look coming to Australia any month, any year,
Speaker 2: any whenever the hell it's going to be, because you're
Speaker 2: going to feel so old in the in the bubbly
Speaker 2: little thing you've got.
Speaker 4: Now, well, you know what I messaged trevoron threads about
Speaker 4: this exact same thing. My dad. I literally told him
Speaker 4: there is a Model three coming. He just ignored me,
Speaker 4: ordered it, and then he got his car delivered, and
Speaker 4: like literally four days later they released the update, and
Speaker 4: I said to him, Dad, are you like, do you
Speaker 4: even do you not listen to me?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I do? Dad?
Speaker 1: Does he know what you do?
Speaker 2: Do you think you're into crypto?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. That's the thing. People will just get whatever
Speaker 4: they want, and in this instance, he was getting it
Speaker 4: for the tax benefits, so he wanted it sooner rather
Speaker 4: than later. But ultimately with Tesla's the problem I have
Speaker 4: is that updates just appear randomly for no reason. And
Speaker 4: while the software updates and stuff are great, they are
Speaker 4: very much becoming a legacy car company now by doing
Speaker 4: visual updates, changing prices, doing discounts to clear stock. It
Speaker 4: is just another car company now that is dressed up
Speaker 4: as a big tech player, which.
Speaker 2: Is credit to them, though let's be real, that's credit
Speaker 2: to them for getting to that point and for having
Speaker 2: the volume that we are looking at them as if they're,
Speaker 2: you know, a camera on the road. It's just I'm
Speaker 2: still flabbergasted by how well they sell given the price
Speaker 2: people are paying. And I just I think in one
Speaker 2: of our other conversations, I talked about how it frustrates
Speaker 2: me that people buy a toy at a Corolla without
Speaker 2: driving a Key or a Hindo. Right, they just buy
Speaker 2: it because it's the trust in this brand.
Speaker 1: There's a brand loyalty there.
Speaker 2: But people buying Tesla's because I actually don't know why.
Speaker 2: Is it because they think it's the only way to
Speaker 2: get an electric car that's got a charging network? Is
Speaker 2: it because they think it's the most innovative car on
Speaker 2: the market. Did they drive a pole Star or anything
Speaker 2: else like that? I just don't think they are. I
Speaker 2: don't think people are driving other cars to find out
Speaker 2: whether or not it has the appeal.
Speaker 3: Well, here's one thing I think that stands out with Tesla, right,
Speaker 3: is literally the charging stations alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't disagree at all, but I think that
Speaker 2: if you absolutely analyze ninety percent of ev owners, most
Speaker 2: of them don't need to go anywhere near a public charger.
Speaker 2: Bloke in the in the office behind mine brought a
Speaker 2: Model three and a couple of years ago, and I
Speaker 2: said to him once time as I passed my mate.
Speaker 2: I've got a charger at the front of the office
Speaker 2: if you ever want to use it against mate. I've
Speaker 2: never been anywhere but at home, just plugged into the
Speaker 2: wall because I don't need to and I i've.
Speaker 4: Had it, doesn't have friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably are you charging your current home? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I installed a wall box at home, and even even
Speaker 2: with a normal power point, I would never have run
Speaker 2: out of time or anything at this point because I've
Speaker 2: never driven so far that in a day in Sydney
Speaker 2: that I needed to. And I took a road trip
Speaker 2: to my mum's a couple of weekends ago, stopped at
Speaker 2: Scone in the interim charger, stopped at Tamworth and the
Speaker 2: Tesla charge, and then drove all the way home without charging.
Speaker 2: Like that's the only time I'll use a public charger
Speaker 2: is when I do a road trip. And road trips
Speaker 2: are covered by the networks. It's really just the demand
Speaker 2: that's going to kill the road trip. And I made Paul,
Speaker 2: you'd be amazed. I drove on a long weekend in
Speaker 2: school holidays and there was no one at the interim
Speaker 2: a charger in Scone and who was They're fine working
Speaker 2: and there was only one person at the four Tesla
Speaker 2: bays in Tamworth on a public holiday long weekend. So
Speaker 2: I told the kids, we're gonna have to wait. We
Speaker 2: might have to que YadA yaddija was it was an
Speaker 2: absolute breeze.
Speaker 4: It's ironic because you've prepared for it. It's the other
Speaker 4: time there would be people there is bloody AI. But
Speaker 4: to your point, Gordy, the test chargers, I think it's
Speaker 4: actually a bit of advertising because a lot of people
Speaker 4: will have gone to a shopping center and seen Tesla
Speaker 4: charges and in the back of their mind they think
Speaker 4: Tesla is the only electric car brand. The charges everywhere
Speaker 4: and thing that's happening at the moment in Europe, and
Speaker 4: literally every CEO had little running notes whenever they had
Speaker 4: media come up to them, they had to talk about
Speaker 4: the influx of Chinese vehicles in Europe. They are absolutely
Speaker 4: decimating the local car market there when it comes to pricing,
Speaker 4: and Europe is about to come out and slap some
Speaker 4: tariffs on China for their cheap electric vehicles, and BYDS
Speaker 4: is within a whisker of overtaking Tesla as the biggest
Speaker 4: full electric car manufacturer globally. I think the same will
Speaker 4: happen in Australia. While t Tesla has a great run
Speaker 4: at the moment, ultimately the pricing is still higher than
Speaker 4: what you would pay for a Chinese domestic market vehicle,
Speaker 4: and I reckon we'll see the Chinese take even more
Speaker 4: of a leap in the electric car market in Australia
Speaker 4: pretty soon.
Speaker 3: So they should. Really, there's a lot of good competition
Speaker 3: out there. The Corpora is doing great stuff. I think
Speaker 3: by d Famously is a fantastic.
Speaker 6: What I miss there nothing I've forgotten about the drama
Speaker 6: that started all this bullshit.
Speaker 2: That's funny. Do you think of what happened?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 3: Are a fantastic product, and I will I will not
Speaker 3: hear anybody looking forward to the Seal.
Speaker 1: I am looking forward to the.
Speaker 3: Seal, the the Dolphin, the Porpoise, the Mermaids or the
Speaker 3: whatever the John West addition.
Speaker 2: What do you think all of the Dolphin Sports Edition,
Speaker 2: whatever the hell they're going to call that?
Speaker 4: Look, I think the names are a bit silly. I
Speaker 4: don't think they really migrate all that well to English,
Speaker 4: but I think their cars look the Dolphin, I think
Speaker 4: just looks a bit curious. We've got one in the
Speaker 4: office at the moment. But I think the rest of
Speaker 4: them look great. And I saw the what is it
Speaker 4: the seal you.
Speaker 1: The the SUV version looks great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw that at the motor Show and I
Speaker 4: thought that looked That looked fantastic. So I reckon look
Speaker 4: that they're going to price these really sharply, and BID
Speaker 4: has got their their act together in Australia. They're teamed
Speaker 4: up with Eagers, who has this enormous dealership network in Australia,
Speaker 4: and I think they are really going to kick a
Speaker 4: massive goal in the next sort of year or so.
Speaker 2: It does feel like they had a plan and they
Speaker 2: realized there was a better plan, do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like whol Kmart tyront Auto my car it's
Speaker 2: called now you know, it was a great idea in
Speaker 2: principle on paper, but it actually would have not served
Speaker 2: them well if they were selling in this volume they're
Speaker 2: getting now. So the Eagers think the only thing that
Speaker 2: got them going. I just wonder whether I wonder whether
Speaker 2: they're pricing too much based on the market and not
Speaker 2: based on what the cars are worth exactly. They're pricing
Speaker 2: against MG, and MG's pricing against them when and I
Speaker 2: think a Dolphin, what are they thirty nine eight or
Speaker 2: something like that. I think Dolphin should be a thirty
Speaker 2: two thirty three thousand dollars car. And if they were,
Speaker 2: my god, it would be it would be a massive,
Speaker 2: massive market. But I just feel like they're with obvious,
Speaker 2: you know, smarts, they're taking advantage of the fact that
Speaker 2: they can charge that much. But I'll go back to
Speaker 2: charging for a minute. I charged my car for I've
Speaker 2: got the numbers, but twenty minutes at the Tesla Tesla
Speaker 2: station eighty something sends per killer what hour they're charging.
Speaker 6: That's honestly, that is that, you know. I often when Paul,
Speaker 6: I don't know what you say.
Speaker 2: When people say how much does it cost to charge only,
Speaker 2: I always say it's about the third of the cost of
Speaker 2: a petrol car. If you were to use a Tesla
Speaker 2: charging network in a public way, in a non Tesla,
Speaker 2: you would it would not be one third. I didn't
Speaker 2: even think it'd be half. I think it would be
Speaker 2: at best two thirds of the cost. Because it is enormous,
Speaker 2: and I worry that people are going to build themselves
Speaker 2: into a world where they think that the long term
Speaker 2: cost because everyone all these car companies. They say, oh,
Speaker 2: but the you know, the car is expensive up front,
Speaker 2: but the four year cost the life of the car is.
Speaker 1: This and that.
Speaker 3: That's what Tesla say. When you buy the car, actually
Speaker 3: put it in writing. I will actually put it how
Speaker 3: much they expect you do that.
Speaker 2: With a BYD and you assume that you're going to
Speaker 2: charge at other places. You're at the behest of Evy
Speaker 2: charge Fox and Tesla not putting their prices up like
Speaker 2: petrol stations do.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: I mean it actually can be non financially viable to
Speaker 2: do electric cars in a public charging way. You've got
Speaker 2: to have your shit sorted at home, and preferably you've
Speaker 2: got to be in the world of solo. I'm not
Speaker 2: there yet, but I'm close. I drove my car down
Speaker 2: to three percent battery and then charge it to one hundred,
Speaker 2: just purely so I could get a calculation off the
Speaker 2: wall boxes to how much it would be twenty one
Speaker 2: dollars it cost me at home to charge. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: there you go, that's one. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: I tell you one thing.
Speaker 3: Though my parents are looking at getting a Tesla. They
Speaker 3: have an underground car park. I am praying for thermal runaway.
Speaker 2: Come on.
Speaker 1: As soon as that happens, I can finally get a
Speaker 1: house in Sydney. It'll be just the best thing in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: It is actually though, withithstanding your little concern for your parents,
Speaker 2: it's actually a major issue. Yeah, Like government and other
Speaker 2: developers are looking at not allowing them of charges in
Speaker 2: underground car parks and that's a huge issue for the
Speaker 2: government take up of evs because they have some vehicles
Speaker 2: that can't be parked in open spaces because of the
Speaker 2: gear and stuff on board or whatever. Mate, that's a
Speaker 2: that's a big problem. I want to I don't know
Speaker 2: that it is a big problem yet.
Speaker 3: I was going to bring this up when when John
Speaker 3: kddogan comes in as well, because he's like, he's got
Speaker 3: quite a.
Speaker 2: Bit, hasn't He found the niche on YouTube, which is
Speaker 2: people fucking hate EV's and will listen to you talk
Speaker 2: about that. I've watched more of his videos in the
Speaker 2: last two months than ever because his research, his way
Speaker 2: to articulate it, and his passion for the thing is brilliant.
Speaker 2: And it's like, mate, he's just gone, these things are
Speaker 2: getting such good views.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to keep going with that That's a
Speaker 3: good thing about John though, like whether you agree or disagree,
Speaker 3: Like he's got a well thought out argument.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like Paul's got.
Speaker 3: You're pretty much responsible for putting charges in your apartment building,
Speaker 3: which I'm assuming has got underground parks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we actually rolled out the full charging infrastructure
Speaker 4: at our apartment building. We've since sold that apartment But
Speaker 4: what actually happened after that, we got a letter from
Speaker 4: the Body Corporate Group for that apartment building and seventy
Speaker 4: five other apartment buildings in the city, and it was
Speaker 4: a subsidiary of Central Equity, so a big company. They've
Speaker 4: actually recommended to all of the owner's corporations that they
Speaker 4: do not install any EV charging equipment in any of
Speaker 4: these buildings until the government releases some kind of regulations
Speaker 4: around it. And it's a real tricky one because the
Speaker 4: government's regulations aren't going to be able to change the
Speaker 4: fact that if you get a vehicle with a lithium
Speaker 4: ion battery catch fire and it gets thermal runaway, that
Speaker 4: it is very difficult to put out, So their regulations
Speaker 4: aren't going to mean anything. And if the regulations are
Speaker 4: that you have to have bigger water supplies in apartments.
Speaker 4: It is going to be so cost prohibitive. Anyone that's
Speaker 4: ever dealt with the fire services company will know that
Speaker 4: doing every the most minor thing is astronomically expensive. To
Speaker 4: just totally change pump systems, piping and water supplies within
Speaker 4: apartment buildings, it would be impossibly cost prohibitive for some
Speaker 4: of these minus corporations who are dealing with huge increases
Speaker 4: in insurance costs and the like. So I just don't
Speaker 4: see it happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, there was something one of my neighbors
Speaker 1: works for, like the New South Wales Fire Safety blah
Speaker 1: blah blah is getting on our local community Facebook page
Speaker 1: saying yeah, saying, look, they shouldn't be installed underground.
Speaker 3: They shouldn't be there. We've been warned there is. It's
Speaker 3: basically really tricky at the moment for fire departments to
Speaker 3: put these sorts of fires out.
Speaker 2: My concern is that it's kind of like the scooter
Speaker 2: and bike drama that's going on at the moment. It's
Speaker 2: a legitimate problem, but it's a legitimate problem because of
Speaker 2: idiots who buy cheap shit on Ali Barber or wish
Speaker 2: dot com and it doesn't pass Australian safe regulations. You
Speaker 2: buy an electric scooter or a bike it Harvey's or JB's,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's not going to explode as long
Speaker 2: as you use the included charger in the same bike. Right.
Speaker 2: But you get someone who buys one off in China
Speaker 2: and they plug in random charger into it, or it
Speaker 2: just doesn't have a battery management system, that's what's exploding.
Speaker 2: My concern is that we actually haven't had that I
Speaker 2: know of proven fire where it was the car at
Speaker 2: fault or an authorized charger. Right. So the wall box
Speaker 2: that I bought in Australia and the qualified electrician I
Speaker 2: had to install it, and a car that is clearly
Speaker 2: meeting regulations, I'm pretty confident that mine is not going
Speaker 2: to just go up in flames. But I joined early on,
Speaker 2: when I thought I was going to get an Atto three.
Speaker 2: I joined all the Facebook groups. The number of people
Speaker 2: in those groups that are just telling each other where
Speaker 2: to get these wall boxes, these charging cables and all
Speaker 2: this shit. It's like, mate, does any of this meat
Speaker 2: Australian standards? And that is where it's all going to
Speaker 2: come undone. I don't reckon it'll be the charger. I
Speaker 2: don't reckon it the car I reckon. People have cheap
Speaker 2: shit cables in between, and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Happens with phones as well.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: That's probably what caused that, for instance, to backpack a fire, right.
Speaker 2: Exactly, it would have been a bike that was absolutely
Speaker 2: not bought a Jbhifi. It would have been plugged into
Speaker 2: a charger and left on and it didn't have a
Speaker 2: battery management system, and up it went. But how do
Speaker 2: you You can't regulate that because you can't regulate what's
Speaker 2: coming into the country in the post. So we are
Speaker 2: in a situation where you have actually have to regulate
Speaker 2: to assume that shit's going to go on. And therefore,
Speaker 2: you know, basement installs may be a problematic thing for buildings,
Speaker 2: and that obviously causes a whole raft of other issues
Speaker 2: when you try and move towards evs with off street
Speaker 2: parking and all that kind of joy.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting one because it's so rare. It is
Speaker 3: kind of rare, like an EV fire, but it also
Speaker 3: doesn't mean it's not.
Speaker 2: If you read a photo expert, that's that's the thing.
Speaker 2: He's unpacked every single one, and it's been brilliant like
Speaker 2: that one of the Paul Did you see that, it's
Speaker 2: like a fucking car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: We wasn't in the car.
Speaker 4: For fuck's sake. What are we doing?
Speaker 1: Come down, Trevor Jeans. It's annoying. You're going to have
Speaker 1: a heart attack. I thought, just just calm down. I'm
Speaker 1: worried about your health. How is that going, by the way, No,
Speaker 1: not good. Did you get that thing fixed on your
Speaker 1: bum na?
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave it there. No one's looking at
Speaker 2: it anyway.
Speaker 4: Speaking of things that people are looking at, we we
Speaker 4: were watching your stories when you're over at the iPhone launch.
Speaker 4: A couple of questions I had. Did they say anything
Speaker 4: about the Apple car that they're sort of rumored to
Speaker 4: be working on.
Speaker 2: No, nothing at all, And I'll tell you why, because
Speaker 2: they're not working on a car, the Apple car. Do
Speaker 2: you remember the rooms about Apple TV an Apple Physical
Speaker 2: TV back in the day. It was like during the
Speaker 2: time of the Steve John's biography. I reckon what happened
Speaker 2: back then is exactly what's happening now with the car.
Speaker 4: I reckon they did.
Speaker 2: They did fuck around and look at a TV and
Speaker 2: they did the business case, and they went, why would
Speaker 2: we build, you know, TVs try and get two percent
Speaker 2: market share when we could build a little box that
Speaker 2: any TV could run. And then it evolved into an app. Right,
Speaker 2: So the car, I've got no doubt they thought about
Speaker 2: a car, They looked at the man all that stuff,
Speaker 2: and then they went, you know what, why don't we
Speaker 2: just own the digital infotainment of cars? And that's when
Speaker 2: they Earlier this year they announced that the next iterations
Speaker 2: of Apple Car Play would in fact be your dashboard,
Speaker 2: not just your infotainment, but you're interconnectivity with the car.
Speaker 2: So they'll be widgets for the air conditioning and all
Speaker 2: that shit. And I'm sure BMW will be first with this,
Speaker 2: as they were with a lot of the stuff. So
Speaker 2: the next iteration, and I think the final iteration for
Speaker 2: the Apple car is just that your phone plugged into
Speaker 2: the car or wirelessly. More importantly, will be what you
Speaker 2: see in front of you. It'll all be you and
Speaker 2: customized and personalized, and it'll be another battle of the
Speaker 2: cars versus you know, human beings wanting to run their
Speaker 2: own infosystems. But yeah, I don't think there'll be a
Speaker 2: physical car in the same way that Dyson looked at
Speaker 2: a car but publicly went we're not going to do it.
Speaker 1: They did kind of make a concept though, I've.
Speaker 2: Got no doubt Apple made a concept, but they're not
Speaker 2: going to release that. They never would, but Dyson. I
Speaker 2: thought it was fucking really cool that Dyson went, here's
Speaker 2: what we did. It didn't We didn't. We couldn't make
Speaker 2: it work.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because you always hear like little bits that oh,
Speaker 3: they're in talks with Kia, or they're in talks with
Speaker 3: Yun Day and blah blah blah blahlah. But then but
Speaker 3: they are well, but also what if they're they do
Speaker 3: build a car that's an absolute premium product that's not
Speaker 3: necessarily going to be for main use.
Speaker 2: I mean, I could be completely wrong, obviously, but I
Speaker 2: just think that every time you know some of the rumors,
Speaker 2: the way you get to get a great story is
Speaker 2: you hear a rumor at a bar or something. Right,
Speaker 2: you hear a bloke from Apple Talk and a bloke
Speaker 2: at Hoyonda, and you go, hang on a minute, what
Speaker 2: the fuck's going on here? Well, actually, they were just
Speaker 2: talking about how they're introducing a new, better Ultra wideband
Speaker 2: chip into the next generation iPhones, which will mean that
Speaker 2: you can unlock your car in an even better way
Speaker 2: from your phone and all. Like, it's just they're just
Speaker 2: improving all of the ways we use our phone today,
Speaker 2: like unlocking your car, entering the car, starting the car,
Speaker 2: and using the photament and dashboard. They're just going to
Speaker 2: make all of that better. And for that reason, of course,
Speaker 2: they're working with all the car companies, but you know,
Speaker 2: some of them might be talking to them, but some
Speaker 2: of them might have breached really bad embargoes or NBA's
Speaker 2: by telling people they were working together. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't think a physical, real vehicle will come.
Speaker 4: Well. I actually that brings me on to the next
Speaker 4: thing I was going to ask, which is the new
Speaker 4: version of Apple car Play. I've just upgraded to iOS seventeen,
Speaker 4: and I really like that new layout and the way
Speaker 4: that it's set up. And I really also like the
Speaker 4: concept of them ditching a manufacturer infotainment system because they're
Speaker 4: just most of them are just a pile of shit
Speaker 4: and just very poor to use. And you get in
Speaker 4: the car, you plug your phone up, the only thing
Speaker 4: you touch is car Play, So why not just make
Speaker 4: the whole thing car play. Do you reckon that that
Speaker 4: means cars will become more secure or do you think
Speaker 4: that they will become more prone to hacking? A tense
Speaker 4: if it all is through the one sort of software stack.
Speaker 2: Great question. I reckon more secure because I think Apple
Speaker 2: is so ridiculously crazy about privacy that they don't want
Speaker 2: to be associated with the potential for any you know,
Speaker 2: interactivity from the outside with a car. So my guess
Speaker 2: is more secure, I reckon in the long run with
Speaker 2: that kind of setup. And I think it's fascinating. You're
Speaker 2: right with like info tament and may. I read every
Speaker 2: review of the Cooper Born. I watched every video, and
Speaker 2: one of the things that stood out to me a
Speaker 2: couple of times was people bagging that it didn't have
Speaker 2: sat NAV, Like, it didn't have a sat NAV built in?
Speaker 2: What the fuck do I want a sat Nay for no,
Speaker 2: you don't one never touched. I've been driving review cards
Speaker 2: for years. I've probably twice used the built in sat NAV,
Speaker 2: and that was probably because I hadn't pared my phone
Speaker 2: and was in a hurry.
Speaker 3: And then, yeah, manufacturing navigation is always And in.
Speaker 2: Fact, it was only two nights ago that I found
Speaker 2: out that when I'm using Apple CarPlay in my Coupra
Speaker 2: and I'm using Apple Maps, the guide, it's the arrow
Speaker 2: navigation appears on the fucking instrument cluster. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: That's like a BMW style thing. And I'm like, this
Speaker 2: is shit hot. That's the kind of stuff that that
Speaker 2: the car companies are doing that just makes it a
Speaker 2: better user experience for the average Joe. And I think,
Speaker 2: like I think I spoke about this before, my biggest
Speaker 2: bugbear is Kia and Hyundai not allowing their most premium
Speaker 2: vehicles to have wireless Apple car Play. And it's because
Speaker 2: they don't.
Speaker 1: There is something going on there though, right.
Speaker 2: I've spoken to them and they said to me, basically,
Speaker 2: Apple and Google require that if you're using wireless Apple
Speaker 2: carp Play and you get in the car, that when
Speaker 2: you turn the car on, car Play comes up, because
Speaker 2: that's obviously what you wanted as a human. But Kia
Speaker 2: and Hyundai want you to first see their beautiful, you know,
Speaker 2: million dollar infotainment system and then click Apple Carpet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can still do that, like my car's
Speaker 3: got wireless and everything comes up and you just choose
Speaker 3: the box.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it comes up by default with car play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but as a choose able icon, and that's what
Speaker 3: he doesn't want. That's the oddest detail ever though. Really
Speaker 3: that's what it boils down.
Speaker 2: They want you to know they've got their own infotainment
Speaker 2: system and they've spent so much time and effort and
Speaker 2: energy on the UI and it's nice, it's probably one
Speaker 2: of the better ones out there.
Speaker 1: But still see all that it would just come up
Speaker 1: as an icon though.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine spending seventy thousand dollars on a Keya
Speaker 2: Carnival Platinum Edition right now and not having wireless CarPlay.
Speaker 2: That is absolutely wild to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that one though. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's just all it would be, would be an icon
Speaker 1: coming up on the on their screen.
Speaker 2: That it would be. That's what Kia wants. But Apple
Speaker 2: and Google, the way it works, it just comes up
Speaker 2: by default. So it's it's basically a stalemate in the
Speaker 2: negotiating table. And because Google and Apple have held their
Speaker 2: ground with every other manufacturer like BMW on everyone, they
Speaker 2: have to hold their ground with Kia and Hyunda.
Speaker 4: Hmmm, that's crazy, but I just think that that is
Speaker 4: the dumbest move, because it totally boggles my mind that
Speaker 4: you can get into a base model Yuda where wireless
Speaker 4: car play works perfectly fine, and then the or you
Speaker 4: spend the less features you get the other interesting one
Speaker 4: as well. I heard on the grapevine that they were
Speaker 4: having issues with the new iPhones, the fifteens overheating, and
Speaker 4: I think it was specifically with BMW wireless chargers. Is
Speaker 4: that a phone issue or is that a wireless charging
Speaker 4: protocol issue?
Speaker 2: I don't think it is specific to the wireless chargers.
Speaker 2: So I've been using the iPhone fifteen since the date
Speaker 2: was announced, so like a week and a half before
Speaker 2: it was released. I've been using for a long time.
Speaker 2: But well just timescale mate, Okay, it's important to note,
Speaker 2: and I've never had the issue, right. So what they
Speaker 2: determined was that there's a couple of factors. One is
Speaker 2: if you do you know, when you set up a
Speaker 2: new phone, says do you want to restore via the
Speaker 2: cloud or direct If you use the cloud and you've
Speaker 2: got a decent amount of you know, photos and storage
Speaker 2: and everything in the cloud, and you're using apps like
Speaker 2: Uber and Instagram for some reason, there was a couple
Speaker 2: of apps they isolated, those things were all just chewing
Speaker 2: it in the background. The cloud was continued to back
Speaker 2: up while you went away and used the phone, and
Speaker 2: all those things combined was just drawing the power and
Speaker 2: heating it up. So I think, if they haven't already,
Speaker 2: they're putting out a software update and that will avoid
Speaker 2: the issue. I think when you the BNW wireless charging issue,
Speaker 2: I think if you're in that situation where you're backing
Speaker 2: up from the cloud and stuff and then you're charging,
Speaker 2: it's always going to Like if you have any iPhone
Speaker 2: in any car, if you're running wireless car play ways
Speaker 2: and you're wireless charging, you've got heat from the charge,
Speaker 2: You've got heats from the GPS and of the broadcast
Speaker 2: of the signal. It's gonna overheat. It's gonna get hot.
Speaker 2: So there's only so much they can do to control that.
Speaker 1: I always find though, when you've got an iPhone and
Speaker 1: a wireless charger and you're using wireless car plays there's
Speaker 1: always interruptions.
Speaker 2: The tolls interrupted. Do you notice that I've not worked
Speaker 2: it out, But you're a wireless Apple car play and
Speaker 2: you go through any toll gate, it just skips the music.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 4: You know what it also does if you're on a
Speaker 4: phone call in some cars, when it does when you
Speaker 4: go through the gantry and it has that half a
Speaker 4: second skip, it actually introduces lag in the phone call,
Speaker 4: so you end up talking over the other person because
Speaker 4: their signal is coming in half a second later. It
Speaker 4: is the most curious thing in the world. I've noticed
Speaker 4: it a few times now when I've been driving back
Speaker 4: on a phone call and you go through a gantry,
Speaker 4: and one time was when I was doing a radio interview.
Speaker 2: So you end up with this horrible outcome.
Speaker 4: It was horrific. So I think that's fixed now because
Speaker 4: I haven't had that recently, But that is a weird one.
Speaker 4: It actually raises the question how much is that shit
Speaker 4: emitting If it's able to interrupt your phone while you're
Speaker 4: driving through.
Speaker 2: Have you ever put your E tag, you know, not
Speaker 2: on the wind screen and just left or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it works, it's it's it's scanning. Let'll tell you.
Speaker 4: It's actually fun to measure the level of output from
Speaker 4: those gantries, just to see if it's actually frying your brain.
Speaker 2: You're getting the equipment and standing in the middle of
Speaker 2: the motorway made for great social con I'll tell you
Speaker 2: one thing I did discover recently on that trip. There's
Speaker 2: a new when we're talking wiless charging, there's a new
Speaker 2: wireless charging standard coming. So right now the standard is
Speaker 2: called chea spelled QI, and you will see this little
Speaker 2: logo on all the cars when it's whiles charging cheap
Speaker 2: annoyingly for cars because we all know there's like a
Speaker 2: six year lead time on these things, this will be
Speaker 2: a while off. But the new standard is basically mag
Speaker 2: safe for everyone. So you know Apple's mag Safe, where
Speaker 2: you put your phone on something and it magnetically attaches,
Speaker 2: so it's sent. The reason for that is it's centers
Speaker 2: so that it's the most optimum charging, right, So all
Speaker 2: phones will get and we're probably talking next year's Samsung's
Speaker 2: or maybe the year after, we'll get this GI two,
Speaker 2: which is stupidly what it's going to be called. It
Speaker 2: should be called magnetic attached or something. But here's the
Speaker 2: benefit of that for cars, and I think it's better
Speaker 2: in cars than any other use case. When BMW and
Speaker 2: everyone else introduces G two, you won't have this situation
Speaker 2: where you've got to fucking find that spot and if
Speaker 2: you heavily break in the phone moves, it stops charging.
Speaker 2: I mean it's great to have the big phone, which
Speaker 2: is normally the one that's all the charges are made for.
Speaker 2: But if you've got a smaller phone, it's sometimes hard
Speaker 2: to find that sweet spot. So that what the magnetic
Speaker 2: attach will be a game changer for cars in six years.
Speaker 4: Also, just checking Trevor, is it is it called the
Speaker 4: g spot.
Speaker 2: Whatever?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't know. Actually I found out. We're trying to still
Speaker 1: look for it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, see Gordy's filthy that you came up with that one. No,
Speaker 6: it's a good good gags in your contract that you
Speaker 6: do all the gags.
Speaker 4: Leave the jokes to me champions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I seen some of those lately. Oh hey,
Speaker 3: this is just completely off topic to Tesla semi right,
Speaker 3: the big, big, big trucks. Did you see any of
Speaker 3: them when you're over there?
Speaker 2: Not on the road? One at the Peterson Museum. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I haven't seen one on the road.
Speaker 1: Because there've been anyone to love by Pepsi at the moment, right.
Speaker 2: A lot, I don't know what's a lot?
Speaker 6: Does he he drove one? You know how he's crappy
Speaker 6: Kasha whatever it is yeah, that one.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's driven pretty much every time he drove the roadster,
Speaker 2: but he drove the truck and it's funny you watch
Speaker 2: him come out of this this lot and you can
Speaker 2: basically hear the suspension make noises when as it goes
Speaker 2: over a very small gutter and the comments are whild
Speaker 2: It's like that doesn't sound good, and yeah, it's not
Speaker 2: a good look, but I mean it's an exciting thing.
Speaker 2: I'm more interested. Have you seen the Edison truck guy
Speaker 2: in Canada? No, No, you should look him up here.
Speaker 2: He's created he's you know, typical Canadian, but he's very
Speaker 2: very green. He's got this plan to be in all Canadian.
Speaker 2: But he's building this truck called the Edison Truck. And
Speaker 2: it doesn't look like a tesla at all. Right, it
Speaker 2: looks like a Bedford from nineteen fifty. But it's got
Speaker 2: a diesel generator in front of the cab, so it's
Speaker 2: got like, it's not a cab over it's you know,
Speaker 2: a big, big nose style and all that's cool, but
Speaker 2: a big diesel generator so that it's like a Chevy
Speaker 2: Vault or a Holding Vaults. It can charge the battery
Speaker 2: as it goes so he can get more range. And
Speaker 2: the thing is he's built this thing to a point
Speaker 2: where every part is obtainable essentially, you know from Super
Speaker 2: g Bordo. Like every bolt, every suspension, every coil, everything
Speaker 2: is just stuff that you can buy. He looked at
Speaker 2: the headlight. It was like one hundred dollars and it's
Speaker 2: a thousand bucks for a Mac headlight. So he's kind
Speaker 2: of building this people's electric truck. Took it to a
Speaker 2: show recent It's really cool.
Speaker 4: You should.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the original version, and he's made a modern money.
Speaker 2: He's pretty big on TikTok. I'll send you both the
Speaker 2: link at some point. Yeah, it's really cool. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just cool to see people mucking around and kind
Speaker 2: of innovating in that space because it is a bit
Speaker 2: head zone.
Speaker 4: Because yeah, I don't know if you saw recently, some
Speaker 4: bloke got a small dent in his Rivian. I guess
Speaker 4: it's like a single cast or something like that. They
Speaker 4: it was thousands and thousands of dollars to fix. And
Speaker 4: I think a lot of new cars these days, they're
Speaker 4: expensive to buy, they're expensive to ensure, and then when
Speaker 4: you have an accident, they are out rape justly expensive
Speaker 4: to fix. And I've just imagined in ten years time
Speaker 4: when someone owns one of these secondhand it's it's just
Speaker 4: going to be a throwaway item that's just too too
Speaker 4: cost prohibitive to actually fix.
Speaker 5: Can you send that to Paul because I don't have
Speaker 5: his number? What a little bitch, bitch send it to Paul.
Speaker 5: I'm not doing that, Edison Motors, No one cares. I
Speaker 5: just Google imaged it and it really wasn't that impressive,
Speaker 5: And I just like.
Speaker 2: No, it's an unimpressive looking thing, one hundred percent. But
Speaker 2: when you when Paul deep dives into that TikTok account,
Speaker 2: he's going to really He's going to really.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, sure, sure it.
Speaker 4: Does look interesting. I think it's it's a great concept.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's that's that's a very diplomat. It looks like
Speaker 1: absolute showers a sympathy.
Speaker 4: It. Actually, it looks really interesting and.
Speaker 2: That's the production well, the concept version.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think it's I think it's interesting.
Speaker 2: That is a pretty pretty solid batter way. Is it
Speaker 2: really very cool?
Speaker 4: Fuck?
Speaker 1: Have you been cruising for bitches in the new Coopra Stillborn?
Speaker 2: I've had the car a month and a half. My
Speaker 2: wife hasn't even sat in it. Yeah right, because so
Speaker 2: she took the piece out of me as a midlife
Speaker 2: crisis car. For the three or four months I had
Speaker 2: to wait for it, and we had to go down
Speaker 2: to Saint Leonard's at one point and we were early,
Speaker 2: so we stopped at the dealer and I wanted to
Speaker 2: show my sixteen year old car and stuff, and so
Speaker 2: she refused to come into the dealership. But why we
Speaker 2: convinced to come in and just sit down and wait.
Speaker 2: She had a look at the car. She's like, you
Speaker 2: should have got in that fucking color and all this
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Then she sits in the back and
Speaker 2: she goes, she's only got four seats, and I went, yep,
Speaker 2: it's only got four seats. And she doesn't know that's
Speaker 2: an option that I talked because it's the interior pack.
Speaker 2: And she goes, we've got three kids, and I went,
Speaker 2: when was the last time all five of us got
Speaker 2: in our Mazda two. Okay, we own a fucking key
Speaker 2: a carnival for Christ's sake.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I am in massive trouble for buying a four seater
Speaker 2: for a five family.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's only a matter of time before
Speaker 3: or your wife leaves you and you're stuck with your
Speaker 3: robots and your bloody all this tech crap. You're in fact,
Speaker 3: you'll probably come out as a robosexual.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not going to comment on whether or not
Speaker 2: that'll be an exciting time for me. But we're happily married,
Speaker 2: thank you, and I don't see that changing while ever.
Speaker 2: The kids are with us, and she keeps saying the
Speaker 2: kids are going to stay with us forever, so that
Speaker 2: maybe that's the only.
Speaker 4: Thing I hope I've got. This is Sydney.
Speaker 1: We need a place to live.
Speaker 2: Well, I thank you. That's the hard thing, you know.
Speaker 2: Like I got a kid who's getting his l's getting
Speaker 2: his peas in two months. Like I'm old, Like I'm
Speaker 2: he's in year twelve. Now, I'm an old man.
Speaker 3: I know you didn't need to bring your kids into it.
Speaker 3: We can just look at you and tell you are
Speaker 3: very old. Did he sit next to Jesus in primary school?
Speaker 2: That's a good one. It's actually not bad.
Speaker 1: Did you have a fuck? I would have thought I.
Speaker 2: Would have gone just a little bit more like just
Speaker 2: modern old. That's Jesus is just a bit too far
Speaker 2: and you know not I go for the twenties as
Speaker 2: opposed to the zero's.
Speaker 1: Did you get a BJ from Dame Melly Melbup.
Speaker 2: Wow, she wasn't putting out at the time.
Speaker 4: He's run out of question. Question Trev. When you mentioned
Speaker 4: that you had the iPhone before it was released, does
Speaker 4: how does that operate? Is it similar to a press
Speaker 4: car where they sort of send it out to you
Speaker 4: to return it once you're done. How does all that
Speaker 4: stuff work?
Speaker 2: So Apple's probably the most rigid of all the companies,
Speaker 2: and it's so good because you know what you expect.
Speaker 2: So you go on the trip and there's normally maybe
Speaker 2: ten people on the trip. You don't no one knows
Speaker 2: who got the call because they don't tell you what
Speaker 2: you're doing. You just get taken away to meetings, and
Speaker 2: you might be taken to the iPhone meeting. So you
Speaker 2: go to a meeting it's about the iPhone. You kind
Speaker 2: of go, yes, I'm getting the iPhone. Then it used
Speaker 2: to be they give it to you over there, but
Speaker 2: these days they wait until you get back in your land.
Speaker 2: And the career comes that Datia house with pretty much
Speaker 2: one of everything. So I've got every version of the iPhone,
Speaker 2: every cover and all that stuff gets sent. The watches
Speaker 2: and everything arrived between. So you sign an agreement that
Speaker 2: is your review Agreement NDA and everything and it has
Speaker 2: a loan agreement. It's for for me, I can't speak
Speaker 2: very wrong, but for me, all my all my Apple
Speaker 2: devices are pretty much one year, so I like, I know,
Speaker 2: And I got an email two days after receiving the
Speaker 2: new ones from the Apple loan account that said, you've
Speaker 2: got these these devices due back and it was all
Speaker 2: last year's phone. So box them up and they send
Speaker 2: a career and they take them back. So yeah, they're
Speaker 2: very It's a great system because you know what you're
Speaker 2: like some stuff it's like, am I keeping this?
Speaker 4: Is this?
Speaker 2: I've got to send this back to I need to
Speaker 2: keep the box, like it's really annoying. So Apple stuff,
Speaker 2: it's great. There's a shelf in my office which is
Speaker 2: just all Apple boxes. I find the box, put the
Speaker 2: product back in, send it back and yeah, you get
Speaker 2: normally a year like all the You're not saying that's
Speaker 2: the life cycle of the product, but you know, I've
Speaker 2: got a Max Max studio and a Mac Mini and
Speaker 2: and a laptop, and like I'll send stuff back early
Speaker 2: because I don't need all that shit sitting around. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's pretty much that way, and it's it's just like cars.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a there's a there's normally one embargo
Speaker 2: and one kind of soft embargo. The first embargo is
Speaker 2: normally the Tuesday. What they did this year was really annoying.
Speaker 2: It was a Monday night of Tuesday, not a Wednesday
Speaker 2: night embargo for the watch, the phone, and the I
Speaker 2: can't remember what the other thing was, but three different things,
Speaker 2: and you you know, there's only a certain number of
Speaker 2: people to have that. And then back in Australia, all
Speaker 2: the other journeys or anyone that didn't go to the
Speaker 2: event will get a briefing that week and they'll probably
Speaker 2: drop their reviews the day it comes out, so you
Speaker 2: probably a few days after embargo, but you know, you're
Speaker 2: still pretty early on before people get the phone.
Speaker 3: I saw something during the week which I found really interesting.
Speaker 3: I was probably a TikTok or something like that, but
Speaker 3: about the there's like people at Apple that just designed
Speaker 3: the boxes, and there's something like within like like the
Speaker 3: psychology of you, like when you open up an Apple box,
Speaker 3: it's supposed to it's supposed to be slow.
Speaker 1: You know, when you it's kind of like you can't
Speaker 1: get the thing out. Yeah, you can't higgle it. That's
Speaker 1: supposed to be like some sort of anticipation, sort of
Speaker 1: like similar to I don't know if you slap the
Speaker 1: poke's and waiting for it's.
Speaker 2: One of those mental it's like jingles and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: There's a reason they work a certain way, Yeah, one
Speaker 2: hundred percent because when you take when firstly it's that
Speaker 2: slow drop of the box opening, and then the way
Speaker 2: they choose to cover the phone, it's it's now a
Speaker 2: white cover and appeals off just really.
Speaker 1: Beautifully in a weird way satisfying, right, it.
Speaker 2: Is oddly satisfying. The one if you ever get to
Speaker 2: do it, that is probably the most amazing is their
Speaker 2: mac what do they call it pro display or their
Speaker 2: studio display big monitor, because it's a massive box, right,
Speaker 2: but you open it up and there's it's all cardboard,
Speaker 2: there's no styrofoam, there's no nothing, but the engineering inside
Speaker 2: is such that you pull two bits of cardboard apart,
Speaker 2: like open it like a butterfly, and the thing kind
Speaker 2: of raises like it's fucking wild that the whole box
Speaker 2: is a mechanism as well. Yeah, and then you know
Speaker 2: you get this beautiful machine inside it. There's no one
Speaker 2: else that does that, no one else.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: I wish they did that with cars.
Speaker 3: I don't know how, but there's there's a couple of
Speaker 3: people I watched that have, like, you know, will take
Speaker 3: premium cars Bentley's or whatever.
Speaker 1: As they get delivered to the dealership, they'll come in
Speaker 1: some sort of you know, zipper bag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a Porsche nine to eleven GT three comes
Speaker 2: in basically a white you know, has matt suit of
Speaker 2: its own. Yes, and you see people.
Speaker 1: Box these things mr and all that so good.
Speaker 2: I would have I would have happily peeled off all
Speaker 2: the bits of plastic on my car. If they gave
Speaker 2: me a list, I would have done.
Speaker 1: Dealership should definitely do that because an option like there's
Speaker 1: there's almost such an anti climax when you go pick
Speaker 1: up a car. It's like, oh, would you like a
Speaker 1: coffee bottle of water? Whatever.
Speaker 3: They pretty much just flicky your keys and go, you know,
Speaker 3: how to work the tech, Yeah, okay, see you later.
Speaker 2: I was blown away by how much time they spent
Speaker 2: with me on the car picking it up it was.
Speaker 2: It was an excellent delivery because he sat me down
Speaker 2: and he pressed every button. The only thing he didn't
Speaker 2: tell me about was the fact that there was that
Speaker 2: nav thing, and I don't think you knew it existed.
Speaker 2: So he went through every setting. It was like he
Speaker 2: wanted to set the settings up for me, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I actually want to do this later and I want
Speaker 2: to choose that later. But it was good to see
Speaker 2: it all that it was there. I thought they spent
Speaker 2: a reasonable amount of time. I was blown away that
Speaker 2: they don't do pre delivery at the dealership. There's just
Speaker 2: a big fucking factory up at Mount Kringo north of
Speaker 2: Sydney where a bunch of dealerships all under the Alto group.
Speaker 2: Just all the cars go there and there's just a
Speaker 2: production line of pre delivery and ceramic coating, whatever the
Speaker 2: hell you choose to do, and then they get chipped
Speaker 2: to the dealer basically ready to put in the showroom.
Speaker 2: So it's changed from back when I worked to Suton
Speaker 2: City Holden and there was pre delivery going on back
Speaker 2: in the workshop efficiency.
Speaker 1: I guess, well were you doing back there?
Speaker 2: I was just the office point man. I was just
Speaker 2: making coffees for people around and data entry. I remember
Speaker 2: doing data entry must have just been repetitive because I
Speaker 2: learned the number pad on the keyboard so well. Even
Speaker 2: to this day, I can without looking, I can do
Speaker 2: the number pad.
Speaker 3: They were actually there was nothing there. It was just
Speaker 3: like we need to give this like he's got special kids,
Speaker 3: some stuff to do.
Speaker 1: Here, you have some number It's a real job.
Speaker 2: But I didn't even get to really drive cars around.
Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, I thought it was cool.
Speaker 1: I love that. You're questioning that later on in life, No,
Speaker 1: I love it. It's like, oh wait, hey, god, this
Speaker 1: doesn't add a sudden.
Speaker 2: City Holding was fun fact, the first Holden dealership in
Speaker 2: Australia to have that back then new style of the
Speaker 2: of the rounded edge on the on the sign, the
Speaker 2: big new weird looking signs, the ones they ended with
Speaker 2: when that was launched. It was sometin City Holding. And
Speaker 2: even more fun fact, all the fonts were Italic when
Speaker 2: it first launched, and they looked at it and went, fuck,
Speaker 2: we don't like that, and then they ripped it all
Speaker 2: down and put it up non Italic and that was
Speaker 2: what rolled out around Australia.
Speaker 1: I love that. That's a fun fact to you.
Speaker 3: Another fun fact italic font fuck bringing the content, Trev.
Speaker 2: Now tell me.
Speaker 1: About you, Pavelo.
Speaker 3: What's what sort of exciting delivery stuff have you obtained
Speaker 3: over the years.
Speaker 4: I wish I had some fun fun facts like that.
Speaker 2: No, actually, that's kind of as genuine as the last one.
Speaker 4: We've got a story going live in a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks where we drove a pair of GC three RS's
Speaker 4: and one of the things we did as part of
Speaker 4: that story was actually unzipping the car. So it came
Speaker 4: to the dealer in that full sort of thing. But
Speaker 4: the problem was we started unzipping the car, I got
Speaker 4: to the back of it and it had a massive
Speaker 4: dint car and the guy and I hope he didn't
Speaker 4: actually get into trouble, but his job is checking all
Speaker 4: the cars when they come off the trucks, and that's
Speaker 4: the reason they actually unzip it while it's on the
Speaker 4: truck because if it is damage, they pass on liability
Speaker 4: to the truck driver or the trucking company. So this
Speaker 4: was the only car in that batch that they hadn't
Speaker 4: checked and it had massive dint in it. So yeah,
Speaker 4: that's part of the reason they don't allow customers to
Speaker 4: do pre delivery because they could pick up all of
Speaker 4: this stuff and then make sure the customer actually then
Speaker 4: takes the car away. So yeah, that was a that's
Speaker 4: my fun fact.
Speaker 2: So can I ask is that obviously arranged? You arrange
Speaker 2: that with owners of the cars, because I mean that's
Speaker 2: pretty awesome thing to be able to experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, these were two press cars that they were preparing
Speaker 4: for the launch, and the story that we're doing is
Speaker 4: that we were running the two cars in. They needed
Speaker 4: fifteen hundred k's on them before they could exceed six
Speaker 4: thousand rpm. So we were running the cars in doing
Speaker 4: a country in our back drive from Melbourne to the Bend.
Speaker 4: So these these are going to be sold to someone eventually,
Speaker 4: but in the interim they were going to be press cars,
Speaker 4: and you know, the owner was Push Australia the cars.
Speaker 4: But I think just based on the process that they
Speaker 4: went through, you also wouldn't want customers seeing that environment
Speaker 4: because to me it was just a workshop. But to
Speaker 4: a customer who's spending you know, these cars are now
Speaker 4: eight hundred and fifty grand on the road. For a
Speaker 4: customer who's spending that kind of money, they don't want
Speaker 4: to see the back of house stuff. They just want
Speaker 4: to turn up and car on and do all that
Speaker 4: sort of stuff. But little do they know people are already
Speaker 4: sat in it to take a petrol station and all
Speaker 4: this sort of stuff. So it's quite quite a fascinating process.
Speaker 3: How devastating would you be to pick up? Finally you
Speaker 3: get your Porsche GT three rs and it's got a
Speaker 3: bloody DNT in it. I remember taking my stinger to
Speaker 3: get like a paint correction done. Shout out to I
Speaker 3: think they're called Atlass body Works, but they had a
Speaker 3: goal Wing three hundred sl the nineteen fifty four you
Speaker 3: know famous thing that I think Lindsay Fox has got one.
Speaker 3: And this thing was starting geez it was good, and
Speaker 3: I said, wow, what's what's wrong with this car?
Speaker 1: It's like it looks fine. Did you guys just finish it?
Speaker 1: He goes no, no, no, Look up the back round
Speaker 1: the back.
Speaker 3: There was like just just devastating damage done to the
Speaker 3: back of this.
Speaker 1: Absolute classic car. And what had happened was the owner
Speaker 1: of it had paid like Cathay Pacific some one of
Speaker 1: these big airlines extra cash. Please look after this. This
Speaker 1: is you know one of the rarest cars in the world.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah. And one of the one
Speaker 1: of the straps while it was in transit in the
Speaker 1: air had come off and bashed the car around up
Speaker 1: the back and you just go. And they had to
Speaker 1: foot the bill for it. Not the not the owner, sorry,
Speaker 1: the airline had to foot the bill. Yeah. Whatever airline
Speaker 1: that was, by the way, I don't know if it was.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get suit again.
Speaker 2: It was an airline.
Speaker 1: It was an airline.
Speaker 2: It so I feel like you're like being sued. Look,
Speaker 2: it's bad.
Speaker 3: You want to if I thought that we're a decorated
Speaker 3: soldier in a Ben Robert Smith's kind of way.
Speaker 2: It means they're paying attention.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, they're listening. How is your performance on
Speaker 1: the nearburg Ring? How'd you go? How'd you go in
Speaker 1: your little Audie high car? This is the best story.
Speaker 2: So we we were trapped in Europe. Okay, So I
Speaker 2: book a one way flight to Berlin every year for
Speaker 2: the big show I go to over there because I
Speaker 2: assume the Apple of Launch is going to be the
Speaker 2: week after an Apple will fly me from Europe to
Speaker 2: San Francisco on their home right. So I book a
Speaker 2: one way flight. I'm a cheapskate anyway. Then the rumors
Speaker 2: come out the Apple event is going to a fucking
Speaker 2: week later, and I'm saying to my cameraman Robert, we're
Speaker 2: going to be fucked here.
Speaker 3: This is a very long setup. I just wanted to
Speaker 3: know about the nearby good luck.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, what are we going to do for
Speaker 2: a week, Because it's cheaper to stay in Europe. So
Speaker 2: I go, mate, let's drive across to Paris, because there's
Speaker 2: he can go to. Here's something you can do in Paris.
Speaker 2: I said, But on the way, let's go to the
Speaker 2: neurburg Ring. So that's me. I'm keen. I want to
Speaker 2: do it. I look it up and there's track days,
Speaker 2: and there's tourist days. I go, fucking beautiful. There's a
Speaker 2: tourist day on the Tuesday. That's when we'll go excellent.
Speaker 2: I watch every YouTube video on the newburg Green website.
Speaker 2: It's not narrated. It's cartoons that tell you that, you know,
Speaker 2: you got to put your indicator on, you got to
Speaker 2: overtake on the left, you've got to obey the signs.
Speaker 2: Whatever the fuck. You know, it's just it's really obvious.
Speaker 2: It's very simple. So we turn up I've rented a
Speaker 2: fucking houty just to get from Berlin to Paris, and
Speaker 2: we turn up outside of the neurburg Ring and it's
Speaker 2: a fucking cue. There's like a hundred cars and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is like because I'm expecting Mount Panorama. I just
Speaker 2: want to get on and drive around at sixty k's
Speaker 2: an hour and experience the track. Right. But let's say
Speaker 2: there's one hundred. Two of them are off the off
Speaker 2: the shelf cars like my fucking Audi. The rest of
Speaker 2: them are fucking race cars. I'm going, this doesn't feel right,
Speaker 2: this is weird, man, And I'm like, we've got to
Speaker 2: do it, and I've got I'm here, I've got to
Speaker 2: do it right. And so we fucking download the app
Speaker 2: and I put the money on and you scan a
Speaker 2: QR code and you're on and i'd start, you know,
Speaker 2: I give it a bit, but I'm going, like a
Speaker 2: hundred and fucking people are just going past me at
Speaker 2: a raider not and I'm going, oh ship, and see
Speaker 2: I would have I would have gone right, I'll give
Speaker 2: it a bit of clappy, but I gotta I gotta
Speaker 2: mate with me in a passenger seat and being a
Speaker 2: passenger with some dick in a road car gone fast
Speaker 2: rental rental, right, and so fucking I'm driving ring Man
Speaker 2: and I've got like the full video of I didn't
Speaker 2: obviously post, but just so much of me going oh fuck,
Speaker 2: where fuck? This is bad. This is not a tourist day.
Speaker 1: This is bad.
Speaker 2: This is this is the ship you see on YouTube.
Speaker 6: And I realized at this point this they have track
Speaker 6: days that are organized, you know, Porsche and shit high
Speaker 6: at the track, But then they have these two tourist days,
Speaker 6: which is when any dickhead with a roll cage can
Speaker 6: come and smash it into the arm coot like you
Speaker 6: see on fucking YouTube.
Speaker 3: So basically it's really a free for all because you can.
Speaker 3: It is a tourist day, so it's open. But like
Speaker 3: the so called rules, they don't really know speed them.
Speaker 2: It's you know, there's no posts. I expected, like bath,
Speaker 2: let's just see one speed sign and just go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll stick around fucking one hundred and thirty hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty on the long straight, I'll go fucking one hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety I'll do what I can do, but on
Speaker 2: the corners, I'm keeping it cool here brother, and I
Speaker 2: made I'm halfway around going this is fucking bad because
Speaker 2: there's no way off. It's twenty kilometers. You can't just
Speaker 2: pull off, and I had to do it all.
Speaker 4: You know, it was It was funny, Trev. I actually
Speaker 4: just listening to you say that, I think a lot
Speaker 4: of people don't actually know how it works, and just
Speaker 4: to you know, you obviously can use a computer, you
Speaker 4: can research it, but to still not know what a
Speaker 4: tourist day is just shows you that I actually think
Speaker 4: they need to have genuine tourist days where there is
Speaker 4: a speed limit and you can actually just enjoy it.
Speaker 4: Because I was the same with you, I ended up
Speaker 4: we did a story with one of the rental car
Speaker 4: companies and if you want to take an actual faster
Speaker 4: car on there, the excess for some of these cars
Speaker 4: is like thirty thousand euros and that's for like an
Speaker 4: entry level BMW, nothing even special. And the entire time
Speaker 4: I was on there, I was petrified that I was
Speaker 4: going to get in the path of someone going fast
Speaker 4: and write this car off and be up for a
Speaker 4: fifty thousand dollars bill for a car that's worth ten grand,
Speaker 4: and it is the most intimidating thing in the world.
Speaker 4: And I had no interest in going back unless it
Speaker 4: was on a closed event where you knew who was
Speaker 4: on there and what cars are beyond there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I looked up that there's a lot of
Speaker 2: companies that will rent you essentially a car with a
Speaker 2: roll cage, and I've been open at Tesla, and I
Speaker 2: looked at that. I probably would do that again next time,
Speaker 2: because at least I could go at it with a
Speaker 2: bit of confidence and not get in people's way, because
Speaker 2: that was the thing. I was in people's way, no doubt.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a beautiful track. I really wanted to
Speaker 2: just drive it. I just wanted to see it. And
Speaker 2: I think that I would pay twenty bucks to if
Speaker 2: there was a two hour window where you could go
Speaker 2: and just experience it, I would, and I think they should.
Speaker 2: And Mate, I posted the video knowing i'd get shit
Speaker 2: canned for it, especially from the locals, and they're like,
Speaker 2: there is no speed, da da da rental car company.
Speaker 2: They're going to fuck you, They're going to bill you.
Speaker 2: And I made I read the rental agreement afterwards because
Speaker 2: I shit myself. Trust me, they had nothing on me
Speaker 2: because I can't remember what the clause was, but essentially
Speaker 2: it's only if you break the law, and I didn't
Speaker 2: break the law, So actually it wasn't illegal to take
Speaker 2: the rental car on it. I just I was wearing
Speaker 2: the risk. If I did something wrong, I was fucked.
Speaker 2: But because I'd got off and I was okay, there
Speaker 2: was no recourse. They could take the car that already
Speaker 2: been returned. They can't bill you for something that didn't happen,
Speaker 2: so you know, look, I was in the way, but
Speaker 2: it was a fucking fun experience regardless. And I anyone
Speaker 2: that's into cars like we are, I do think it's
Speaker 2: an awesome thing to do if you do it right,
Speaker 2: If you go in and you do it right and
Speaker 2: you know what you're getting for. You need to know.
Speaker 2: You need to watch all those videos and realize it
Speaker 2: can go wrong real quick. And there's people there with
Speaker 2: a fucking you know, Mercedes GT Black Edition fucking flying around.
Speaker 6: These are race cars, and it's it's wild. It is
Speaker 6: not a Baptist tourist drive. Well, there's a choice of words.
Speaker 2: Fucking people. I don't care whose translation, it is tourist
Speaker 2: drive is a shit name for it.
Speaker 4: Can we agree? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Even though I'm a dickhead, it's a shit name for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: I think it's one of those things you genuinely want
Speaker 3: to do, but man, like an AMG blaring past you
Speaker 3: at two hundred k's whatever, It's just you can't have
Speaker 3: it like that.
Speaker 2: You know. The best thing is I got a speeding
Speaker 2: fine in the email two days ago from somewhere near Cologne.
Speaker 2: I was doing one hundred and ten hundred zone. Now
Speaker 2: you've had fines here in Australia. What do you think?
Speaker 2: Don't get in if you know what it is. How
Speaker 2: much do you think the fine was? Gordy for one
Speaker 2: hundred and ten hundred zone on a German auto barn
Speaker 2: It's about three hundred here, I reckon for a hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a feeling it's really high, either really
Speaker 1: low or seriously high. I'm going to say. I'm going
Speaker 1: to say about fifteen hundred bucks. I don't know where
Speaker 1: I've heard this before.
Speaker 2: Twenty euros, oh get out. Yeah, I'm like I didn't
Speaker 2: even notice that on my fucking credit card.
Speaker 1: Fuck.
Speaker 4: You know the thing that they do over there, which
Speaker 4: I think is fantastic. On an auto barn, the speed
Speaker 4: limits they have them, the fines aren't that expensive. If
Speaker 4: you were to do the same level of speed over
Speaker 4: the speed limit off the auto barn in a residential area,
Speaker 4: mine is significantly higher. But what they're saying is on
Speaker 4: the auto barn, you know, stick to the speed limit.
Speaker 4: If you don't, it'll be a slap on the wrist
Speaker 4: as long as long as you're not going too crazy.
Speaker 4: But if you're in a residential area, we're going to
Speaker 4: go to town on you. And I think that is
Speaker 4: exactly how it should be done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: The Germans are great drivers, like hands down.
Speaker 2: Honestly, it was a great experience. I've driven Italian auto
Speaker 2: strata before, but never the auto barns. And there was
Speaker 2: a lot of roadworks, to be honest that like, we
Speaker 2: came across roadworks a lot. Mate. We're in the left lane,
Speaker 2: fast lane. I was one hundred and forty at one
Speaker 2: point and man, I can't round a bend and there
Speaker 2: was a fucking truck, you know, the big cross roadworks
Speaker 2: on I'm like, should you have not warned me of this?
Speaker 2: It was just there It was a bit sketchy at times,
Speaker 2: but there was probably more roadworks than than there was
Speaker 2: open stretches, but it was it's sometimes nice to stretch it,
Speaker 2: like you go on fast, you pull in and Rob
Speaker 2: was with me and he goes, why are we pulling in?
Speaker 2: You know, wait, wait a second, and I just go
Speaker 2: look at that, and I'm going At one point I said,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to find out how much they're doing, right,
Speaker 2: So I just tail them and it was two hundred
Speaker 2: and something. I got to Titland when I'm out, but
Speaker 2: they're flying like it's wild wild.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming to the Trevor Long Show. Everyone
Speaker 1: you asked me.
Speaker 2: You want me to listen to you talk?
Speaker 4: You can trust me. No one wants that they use
Speaker 4: it at Guantanamo Bay to get prisoners to yes my voice, no, Gordy, Okay,
Speaker 4: I've had a cupfull of you. We got six hours
Speaker 4: a day of him that they just played.
Speaker 1: That's right, number one, baby, number one right across.
Speaker 2: Who's number two?
Speaker 1: I don't know. They're very far way down. I can't
Speaker 1: see that far down.
Speaker 2: Number one FM.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but hang on, no, no, no, In the afternoon,
Speaker 1: I'm beating your mates a bloody two GB.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just gonna say, beating.
Speaker 1: Get the fuck out rock SALTI.
Speaker 2: Loyal mate, Sorry, pick and stick.
Speaker 1: Anyway, it's good to see, it's.
Speaker 2: Great to be here. Where do I send the inots?
Speaker 4: Who's the sponsor?
Speaker 1: How much would you?
Speaker 4: Genuinely? Lawyers?
Speaker 3: How much would you to our lawyers? That's right, they'll
Speaker 3: probably wipe their ass with that one too.
Speaker 2: Sponsors.
Speaker 1: No, we should get a sponsor.
Speaker 2: Probably should.
Speaker 1: What's your business called?
Speaker 2: Again?
Speaker 4: G A?
Speaker 1: Hang on? Hang on, No, I'm not being a smart ass.
Speaker 1: I genuinely I know.
Speaker 3: You gave me a beautiful heart and an umbrella which
Speaker 3: is in my car. I love it, wear it every day. Now,
Speaker 3: let me think about it.
Speaker 2: He's great because the new hat doesn't have it written
Speaker 2: on the front.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks good.
Speaker 2: Can I have one of those?
Speaker 3: Okay, I've got to Actually I do. I do have
Speaker 3: something to tell you. Your hat that you gave me.
Speaker 3: I genuinely loved.
Speaker 1: Right, and I wore it, the bad black one with
Speaker 1: the metal badge and very nice right. It felt very premium,
Speaker 1: which is surprising because it came from you. Right, So
Speaker 1: I wore that I believe it or not, I wore
Speaker 1: it to a gym. I was actually going to the gym.
Speaker 6: It was the first time an em merch went to
Speaker 6: a gym. I can tell you that I wear that
Speaker 6: shit every day. Well, here's the thing, here's the thing.
Speaker 6: I wore it to my country club gym, right, and
Speaker 6: I took it off for a brief moment in time,
Speaker 6: and I went outside and I got in the car.
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, bloody left the left my hat next
Speaker 6: to the thing. All right, I'll get it tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1: I'm here tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2: No worries, country club. It's in his locker.
Speaker 1: Someone fucking took it.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Someone took its, right, Cordy. So the new We've
Speaker 2: got two new hats. One of them is the exact
Speaker 2: same hat, but with this rubber logo on the FT's
Speaker 2: good and this one is called Racing Stroke.
Speaker 1: The color, how come you didn't get like blue red
Speaker 1: like the BMW and.
Speaker 5: The colors of the f TM logo, which is okay,
Speaker 5: it's becoming a bit racial, now, isn't it racial?
Speaker 1: These are my colors of my tripe.
Speaker 2: What's uh?
Speaker 1: What's that? Who ha run the side?
Speaker 2: That's the logo.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's the Oh, that's the business.
Speaker 2: Put the logo on the back instead of I just
Speaker 2: got smart. I just got to the point where it's like,
Speaker 2: you people don't want to wear your logo on their hat,
Speaker 2: but they don't they like to support you, right, So
Speaker 2: this is a hat that you can wear without feeling
Speaker 2: like you're walking around with a fucking.
Speaker 1: And do people indeed support you? Yeah? Sell the merch.
Speaker 4: Merch? Do you have?
Speaker 2: The umbrellas are exclusive because you can't post the fucking things.
Speaker 2: Some stubby holders, some key rings, some lanyards and hats
Speaker 2: chopp dot, eft.
Speaker 1: N or com. Sorry what was it called?
Speaker 4: This?
Speaker 2: Is this called car expert dot because that's one, isn't it? Yeah? Nearly,
Speaker 2: I nearly forgot.
Speaker 1: The car expert merch.
Speaker 2: They're focused on building their business. I'm focused on just
Speaker 2: spending my money. You're going to choose your factories wisely, Paul,
Speaker 2: I'll hook you up with my merch guy.
Speaker 1: What I'm just let's I'll hook you up.
Speaker 2: And I think Paul's audience is obviously very loyal, so
Speaker 2: I think they would they would love to support we
Speaker 2: have merch to me. My son wears the shirt and
Speaker 2: I've got the cup in my office.
Speaker 1: I have sent some. Yeah, you have you got some?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. While you're looking that up, can I tell
Speaker 2: you a really funny story about support and punters. It's
Speaker 2: on the bottom of every article on my website. It
Speaker 2: says you know you've got a little buy and says
Speaker 2: buy a Trevor drink if you like this content by
Speaker 2: a Trevor drink. And it's a click a button, but
Speaker 2: you don't drink exactly, it's half the joke. And you
Speaker 2: click a button that takes you to PayPal and you
Speaker 2: know you can send me money, right. I probably you
Speaker 2: had like thirty people send money right you.
Speaker 1: Like one of those three weeks ago gets out on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Totally three weeks ago, I got a five dollars donation
Speaker 2: buy me drink? Right cool? Cool cool? And then about
Speaker 2: a week later Blake emails me. You go just wondering
Speaker 2: if you got my donation and wondering where that goes?
Speaker 2: Is it for a charity or something? And I wrote
Speaker 2: back and.
Speaker 6: Said, mate, it's a It literally says the e f
Speaker 6: GM drink's fun. It's you literally bought me a bottle
Speaker 6: of sun kissed. He fucking thought he was donating five
Speaker 6: bucks of charity via the website The least Wow, Yeah exactly,
Speaker 6: that's where it was going.
Speaker 3: The least you could do is actually buy a bottle
Speaker 3: of sun Kissed. The least you could do is start
Speaker 3: drinking again.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's I don't need any more.
Speaker 1: Way, here we go. What was the last time you
Speaker 1: had a drink?
Speaker 2: Bob Fulton's farm when I killed a pig with my
Speaker 2: bare hands. Probably don't want to do that again. What
Speaker 2: is that a weird stak? Now?
Speaker 1: Is that a historical story?
Speaker 2: I should know?
Speaker 1: Okay, so how long ago was your first drink?
Speaker 2: My first?
Speaker 1: Sorry, your last drink?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, I mean I've and Ruski around birthday time.
Speaker 4: Fuck.
Speaker 1: Just when I thought, just when I thought you couldn't
Speaker 1: get anywhorse, all of a lumined Rosky around a certain
Speaker 1: birthday of an ill umben Ruskies.
Speaker 2: That's my drink, I thought.
Speaker 1: You can you come across as a cocksacking cowboy kind
Speaker 1: of guy.
Speaker 2: I've never had a cocktail of any sort.
Speaker 1: It's not a cocktail, mate, He's in the next room.
Speaker 1: Come on in mate, I wonder where your other guy was.
Speaker 1: He's been lubing up as he Yeah, well for you,
Speaker 1: that's what that little hole in the wall is over there,
Speaker 1: a little hole. Thank you for coming in, Trevor.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm here, I really don't.
Speaker 1: I do enjoy you coming in.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go downstairs right now and check out your
Speaker 3: cool pruck. You had some clothes hanging up in the
Speaker 3: back seat. Are you living in your car now?
Speaker 2: I've got the Today Show in the morning.
Speaker 4: You dig in?
Speaker 1: Sure, sure you are. I've got the Today Show in
Speaker 1: the morning. You've got half your fucking wardrobe in there,
Speaker 1: and it's all about the Today Show? Are you gonna
Speaker 1: Are you going to take those clothes to the Today
Speaker 1: Show and just be like, all right, this is the best.
Speaker 1: This is the best washing machine you can get. I've
Speaker 1: got my clothes in here right now.
Speaker 2: No matter I'm gonna take. I'm going to unpack all
Speaker 2: of the carnival load of fucking speakers that I've got
Speaker 2: to take in and then I'll get changed.
Speaker 1: What's your specialty, I'll do the second WA's your little segment.
Speaker 2: Music and speakers?
Speaker 1: Music could say, why didn't you get me on the
Speaker 1: for that? I'm perfect for that.
Speaker 2: I know who you are. You're in my phone as Gordo.
Speaker 2: I forget your name?
Speaker 4: What are you?
Speaker 1: What are you wearing? What is that stupid dog?
Speaker 2: Ted Lasso?
Speaker 1: I thought, so God, you don't like Ted?
Speaker 3: No, I love Ted Lasso. I just would wear the
Speaker 3: fucking merge of a fictitious TV show.
Speaker 1: Gordo d o E.
Speaker 2: Gordo with an O.
Speaker 1: That spelling's as bad as your bloody car reviews on
Speaker 1: whatever your business is. Do you know what I'm This
Speaker 1: won't even be edited.
Speaker 2: I'm over my contract.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to throw it straight out normally edit
Speaker 1: this ship well a little bit? Yeah really yeah yeah yeah?
Speaker 2: Too much top and tail?
Speaker 1: Do you know what everyone's going to be like? Where
Speaker 1: if you were like? This podcast hasn't been on air
Speaker 1: right for about four weeks. I've we've had to take
Speaker 1: some time now. My wife had surgery and blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. But to cut a long story short, I've
Speaker 1: been getting some serious brownie points at home because I've
Speaker 1: been pretty much a single dad way she's been bed bound.
Speaker 1: So I thought, I mean, you're pretty much my brownie
Speaker 1: points and cashing them in. Get your tits out. We're
Speaker 1: going to Thailand me and yeah, okay, one trip to Thailand.
Speaker 2: Pink fucking loosest unit. I know, can you? That's ely.
Speaker 1: Let's go to bloody Thailand, me and you, we'll go
Speaker 1: to a ping pong show. We'll get to a ping
Speaker 1: pong show.
Speaker 2: I don't understand how this show exists.
Speaker 4: Do you know?
Speaker 1: They put onside there?
Speaker 2: He's why everyone? How do we sign off?
Speaker 4: This?
Speaker 1: Actually?
Speaker 4: Hang on? Hang on?
Speaker 3: This is where you This is where you shut up
Speaker 3: for a second because our show it's not yours. We're
Speaker 3: not sponsored by a bloody, stiffy tablet company. There's lots
Speaker 3: of merch coming and there's swapping bloody factories or something.
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Speaker 2: You're idiots, both of you. I don't know why you
Speaker 2: do this