1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: I love that you've literally just walked in, and you've 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: walked in and a wing. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: That's how I walk in the room. 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Where have you been? 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 3: What have you been doing? By the way, Paul's on zoom, 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 3: we can't say why. I've been told I'm not allowed to. 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, well not until after the court case. 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's an interlockery agreement involved. 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Trevor. 10 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: Trevor Long is here. You're only here because you need 11 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: a place to stay. 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: Who sponsors this show? How are you affording me? 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: There's no Sponsorgo we should start making up fake sponsors 14 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: for this show. 15 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: I don't think you should given you too. 16 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: Maybe it'll be something for like blue shoe or some 17 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: sort of stiffy cream. 18 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what you say. 19 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: Can you read this live read for cholesterol Medication? 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: I'll do a live read for the Man Shake? 21 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Man Shake. Actually, you know what, what's that 22 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: brand that sponsors everything? The dot com? The Ball Clippers, 23 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: the Man Skates. You wouldn't be great with Man. 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: Skates' lifestyle website. They've never reached out. What does that 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: tell you about they're design to be involved with me? 26 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: They would just be like that. Those Clippers would just 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 3: get caught in his shoulders somewhere. 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: They're like, we're worried he'll actually take his shirt off 29 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: and show people what it's like. 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, we will just stick with. 31 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: Getting buff guys to shave themselves. 32 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 4: Thanks, That's why they keep coming to me. 33 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: I swear like any raiser knew your body would just 34 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: look like it was burning down the Amazon. Come on, mate, 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: what's wrong? What's wrong with you? 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: I was actually just going to grow a beard. 37 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm desperately trying. 38 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: You'll hit puberty soon, Paul. 39 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: I'm desperately trying. Yeah, I hope one day to look 40 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: like Gordy. 41 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, don't hope that any years ago. 42 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: I found it. 43 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: I found an old photo of myself the other day 44 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: with a beard, and it's just really yeah, it's oh god, 45 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: it's all kinds of no, I look like I'm from 46 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: Paul's country. 47 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: So I in the late nineties into the early two 48 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: thousands didn't just so now I just just call this 49 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: stubble right, and this is long at the moment, but 50 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: it was full, like not crazy beard man stuff, But 51 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: it just looked unkept like I didn't care because I 52 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: didn't you been my passport photo at the time was horrible. 53 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: You would have looked like a homeless terrorist. 54 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: Yes, that's where I was going with it. It was 55 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: really the kind of thing that you really didn't want 56 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: to present at an airport. 57 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 58 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I got a new passport, but. 59 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: You enjoyed the cavity search. It works out now. 60 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: And then you got to get some action. I married 61 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: a long time, you know, sometimes you got to find 62 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: a he is this on? 63 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: Yeah? 64 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've never listened to I don't know how 65 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: you start the show or anything. 66 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: I do love how you rocked up in your snappy 67 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: little coopra. 68 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 4: Still, how was how was that going through? 69 00:02:58,600 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: Best thing I've ever done? 70 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: Really? 71 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so so in love with it. You do 72 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: look cute in that Thank you mate. Yeah, it's funny. 73 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: And I've always been a hatchback guy always. And then 74 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: so I went to the one of the launches because 75 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: it was one of those events, Paul, where there was 76 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: a you know, drive days with the Murtoring journals, and 77 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: then there was a fancy lifestyle thing influences. Yeah, I 78 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: feel like there was some people I knew there, but anyway, 79 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: and it was a pr person I'd never met before, 80 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: so I just took the invite. It was the I 81 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: wanted to go, so I'm like, yeah, sure cool, and 82 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: drove the car and instantly in my video, like ten 83 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: minute video. I wasn't even there for more than two hours. 84 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: I just went on buying this car, right, and then 85 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: I broke an embargo because I wasn't told there was 86 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: an embargo, because they didn't think that anyone at that 87 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: event would actually write a review. So I'm just like, 88 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: I got home and wrote the review and you know, 89 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: no drummers. And then someone reads me and goes, you know, 90 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: it would be great if you just held off on that. 91 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: I went why, and they go, because everyone else is 92 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: holding off, And I went, well, why didn't you tell me? Mate? 93 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: They panicked, panicked because I'm not shut up, Oh my god, 94 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: panic because no, they panic because people like Paul would 95 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: have lost their shit that a bunch of bunch of 96 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: them are holding off on an embargo and all these 97 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: annoying influences are now posting and I'm out here putting 98 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: a reviewer, so look me with them very early, because. 99 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: With all your respect, I don't think little Pablo is 100 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: going to be threatened by your little review which was 101 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: probably written on the bonnet of your car with a 102 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: crayon and some butcher's paper. 103 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: Listen, and we're. 104 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Spoken about it. 105 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: We've spoken about other people in this industry, for whom 106 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: you know, Paul Malman have worked with before. Trust me, 107 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: they care. 108 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: You know, you're absolutely spot on, Trevor. And the frustrating 109 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 4: thing for me is I'd actually much prefer that system 110 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 4: where you just get home and you just get it 111 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: over and done with. But we have this ridiculous thing 112 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 4: that if someone breaks an embargo by ten seconds, it 113 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 4: is the end of the world. And to me, I 114 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 4: just I really just think it's it's so stupid. I 115 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 4: would just prefer to do it your way. 116 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: And for me it was hilarious because initially it was 117 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: just can you just take the word review out? Because 118 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: it wasn't really detailed. It was just impressions more than anything. 119 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: But could just take the word review out? And then 120 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: a couple of hours later it was like, actually, could 121 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: you delete it? 122 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: There's so much. 123 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: At that point, I'm like, yeah, I want to buy 124 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: the car, so I'm hoping to sweet talk them here. 125 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: So I took it down and everything didn't do me 126 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: any favors on the car just quietly, so I shouldn't 127 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: left it up. But anyway, so my first car was 128 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: a say It Ibeitha and Paul that that's the reason 129 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: I bought this car because Cooper is basically the brother 130 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: or the sister or the love child of say It. 131 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: And for me, this is just my world coming back, 132 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: and so it's fucking perfect. My wife calls it a 133 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: middle life crisis. I don't care. 134 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: So it's like you're a virgin all over it. 135 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, nerdy little virgin all over again. Love it. 136 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny true if they have we had 137 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: the chance of two of the Cooper factory in Spain, 138 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: and is it's a bit like the Czech Republic where 139 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: everyone just drives a Scota. In Spain they're all driving 140 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 4: Sayats and yeah, it's just crazy. And it actually it's 141 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 4: an interesting brand because we're say It is a bit 142 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 4: sort of a bit more sort of conventional Volkswagen like 143 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 4: Coopra is like totally the opposite. It's it's sort of young, adventurous. 144 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: The styling is really out there, and it's funny. The 145 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 4: Spanish just just kind of do their own thing, which 146 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: is just hilarious within the Volkswagen group, which is just 147 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 4: typically German exactly. 148 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: I think it's great though, Like we saw some of 149 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: the stuff coming out of the Munich motor Shower that 150 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: trip you just did. It looked great, right, Like they. 151 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: Pushed the boundaries of the concept cars and then the 152 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: real cars, Paul. They don't look that. 153 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 4: Far off, Yeah, exactly. If you look at the Taviscan, 154 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 4: which is their suv electric car that's coming, the concept 155 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: looks virtually identical to the production car. And I think 156 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 4: that they've just given Coopra all of that leeway to 157 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: do kind of whatever they want. And it's great because 158 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 4: you have all the Volkswagen underpinnings, so you know that 159 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: it's been engineered correctly, and they've just been given a 160 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: bit of latitude when it comes to design and sort 161 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 4: of making it look really cool. 162 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. And look, the thing is, I've always I've wanted 163 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: an electric car for years. I just couldn't buy Tesla. 164 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: There's fucking many of them on the road right now. 165 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: It is just so Camri like, isn't it. It is 166 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: hard to not look at it and just go I 167 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: just don't feel you don't you want to be unique 168 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: in your car. 169 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny. 170 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: I I think at the moment with the EV landscape, 171 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: there really isn't that much to choose from, and you're 172 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: right like Tesla are everywhere. I think the new ones 173 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: look really cool, but pick of the bunch in terms 174 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: of uniqueness is definitely Coopra. 175 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 4: Actually I don't actually think they look cool at all. 176 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: I just think that they're all. They're available in what 177 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: like five colors, and every cheap person gets a white one, 178 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 4: and then everyone who wants to look cool gets a 179 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 4: red one or a blue one, and then the rest 180 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 4: are just these pedestrian colors in between. I just that 181 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: they have completely lost their appeal. 182 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: This is coming from a guy who's going to wipe. 183 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, what's your view when you 184 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: own a car? What's your view on a small update aesthetically? So, 185 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: for example, if I just bought a Model three, I 186 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: would be out of my mind with the fear of 187 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: that new look coming to Australia any month, any year, 188 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: any whenever the hell it's going to be, because you're 189 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: going to feel so old in the in the bubbly 190 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: little thing you've got. 191 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 4: Now, well, you know what I messaged trevoron threads about 192 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: this exact same thing. My dad. I literally told him 193 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 4: there is a Model three coming. He just ignored me, 194 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 4: ordered it, and then he got his car delivered, and 195 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 4: like literally four days later they released the update, and 196 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: I said to him, Dad, are you like, do you 197 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 4: even do you not listen to me? 198 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: Do you know what I do? Dad? 199 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: Does he know what you do? 200 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: Do you think you're into crypto? 201 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 202 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. That's the thing. People will just get whatever 203 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: they want, and in this instance, he was getting it 204 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 4: for the tax benefits, so he wanted it sooner rather 205 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: than later. But ultimately with Tesla's the problem I have 206 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 4: is that updates just appear randomly for no reason. And 207 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: while the software updates and stuff are great, they are 208 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: very much becoming a legacy car company now by doing 209 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 4: visual updates, changing prices, doing discounts to clear stock. It 210 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: is just another car company now that is dressed up 211 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 4: as a big tech player, which. 212 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: Is credit to them, though let's be real, that's credit 213 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: to them for getting to that point and for having 214 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: the volume that we are looking at them as if they're, 215 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: you know, a camera on the road. It's just I'm 216 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: still flabbergasted by how well they sell given the price 217 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: people are paying. And I just I think in one 218 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: of our other conversations, I talked about how it frustrates 219 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: me that people buy a toy at a Corolla without 220 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: driving a Key or a Hindo. Right, they just buy 221 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: it because it's the trust in this brand. 222 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: There's a brand loyalty there. 223 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: But people buying Tesla's because I actually don't know why. 224 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: Is it because they think it's the only way to 225 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: get an electric car that's got a charging network? Is 226 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: it because they think it's the most innovative car on 227 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: the market. Did they drive a pole Star or anything 228 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: else like that? I just don't think they are. I 229 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: don't think people are driving other cars to find out 230 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 2: whether or not it has the appeal. 231 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: Well, here's one thing I think that stands out with Tesla, right, 232 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: is literally the charging stations alone. 233 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't disagree at all, but I think that 234 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: if you absolutely analyze ninety percent of ev owners, most 235 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: of them don't need to go anywhere near a public charger. 236 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: Bloke in the in the office behind mine brought a 237 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: Model three and a couple of years ago, and I 238 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: said to him once time as I passed my mate. 239 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: I've got a charger at the front of the office 240 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 2: if you ever want to use it against mate. I've 241 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: never been anywhere but at home, just plugged into the 242 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: wall because I don't need to and I i've. 243 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 4: Had it, doesn't have friends. 244 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably are you charging your current home? Yeah? 245 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: I installed a wall box at home, and even even 246 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: with a normal power point, I would never have run 247 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: out of time or anything at this point because I've 248 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: never driven so far that in a day in Sydney 249 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: that I needed to. And I took a road trip 250 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 2: to my mum's a couple of weekends ago, stopped at 251 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: Scone in the interim charger, stopped at Tamworth and the 252 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: Tesla charge, and then drove all the way home without charging. 253 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: Like that's the only time I'll use a public charger 254 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 2: is when I do a road trip. And road trips 255 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: are covered by the networks. It's really just the demand 256 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: that's going to kill the road trip. And I made Paul, 257 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 2: you'd be amazed. I drove on a long weekend in 258 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: school holidays and there was no one at the interim 259 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: a charger in Scone and who was They're fine working 260 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: and there was only one person at the four Tesla 261 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: bays in Tamworth on a public holiday long weekend. So 262 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 2: I told the kids, we're gonna have to wait. We 263 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: might have to que YadA yaddija was it was an 264 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: absolute breeze. 265 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 4: It's ironic because you've prepared for it. It's the other 266 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: time there would be people there is bloody AI. But 267 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 4: to your point, Gordy, the test chargers, I think it's 268 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 4: actually a bit of advertising because a lot of people 269 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 4: will have gone to a shopping center and seen Tesla 270 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 4: charges and in the back of their mind they think 271 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,119 Speaker 4: Tesla is the only electric car brand. The charges everywhere 272 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 4: and thing that's happening at the moment in Europe, and 273 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 4: literally every CEO had little running notes whenever they had 274 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: media come up to them, they had to talk about 275 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 4: the influx of Chinese vehicles in Europe. They are absolutely 276 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 4: decimating the local car market there when it comes to pricing, 277 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: and Europe is about to come out and slap some 278 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: tariffs on China for their cheap electric vehicles, and BYDS 279 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: is within a whisker of overtaking Tesla as the biggest 280 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: full electric car manufacturer globally. I think the same will 281 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 4: happen in Australia. While t Tesla has a great run 282 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 4: at the moment, ultimately the pricing is still higher than 283 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 4: what you would pay for a Chinese domestic market vehicle, 284 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 4: and I reckon we'll see the Chinese take even more 285 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 4: of a leap in the electric car market in Australia 286 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 4: pretty soon. 287 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 3: So they should. Really, there's a lot of good competition 288 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: out there. The Corpora is doing great stuff. I think 289 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: by d Famously is a fantastic. 290 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 6: What I miss there nothing I've forgotten about the drama 291 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 6: that started all this bullshit. 292 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: That's funny. Do you think of what happened? 293 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: There? 294 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: Are a fantastic product, and I will I will not 295 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: hear anybody looking forward to the Seal. 296 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: I am looking forward to the. 297 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: Seal, the the Dolphin, the Porpoise, the Mermaids or the 298 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: whatever the John West addition. 299 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: What do you think all of the Dolphin Sports Edition, 300 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: whatever the hell they're going to call that? 301 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: Look, I think the names are a bit silly. I 302 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 4: don't think they really migrate all that well to English, 303 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: but I think their cars look the Dolphin, I think 304 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: just looks a bit curious. We've got one in the 305 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: office at the moment. But I think the rest of 306 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: them look great. And I saw the what is it 307 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: the seal you. 308 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: The the SUV version looks great. 309 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw that at the motor Show and I 310 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 4: thought that looked That looked fantastic. So I reckon look 311 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 4: that they're going to price these really sharply, and BID 312 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: has got their their act together in Australia. They're teamed 313 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 4: up with Eagers, who has this enormous dealership network in Australia, 314 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 4: and I think they are really going to kick a 315 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 4: massive goal in the next sort of year or so. 316 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 2: It does feel like they had a plan and they 317 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,599 Speaker 2: realized there was a better plan, do you know what 318 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: I mean? Like whol Kmart tyront Auto my car it's 319 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: called now you know, it was a great idea in 320 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: principle on paper, but it actually would have not served 321 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: them well if they were selling in this volume they're 322 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: getting now. So the Eagers think the only thing that 323 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: got them going. I just wonder whether I wonder whether 324 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: they're pricing too much based on the market and not 325 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: based on what the cars are worth exactly. They're pricing 326 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: against MG, and MG's pricing against them when and I 327 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: think a Dolphin, what are they thirty nine eight or 328 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: something like that. I think Dolphin should be a thirty 329 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: two thirty three thousand dollars car. And if they were, 330 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: my god, it would be it would be a massive, 331 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: massive market. But I just feel like they're with obvious, 332 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: you know, smarts, they're taking advantage of the fact that 333 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: they can charge that much. But I'll go back to 334 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: charging for a minute. I charged my car for I've 335 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: got the numbers, but twenty minutes at the Tesla Tesla 336 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: station eighty something sends per killer what hour they're charging. 337 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 6: That's honestly, that is that, you know. I often when Paul, 338 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 6: I don't know what you say. 339 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: When people say how much does it cost to charge only, 340 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: I always say it's about the third of the cost of 341 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: a petrol car. If you were to use a Tesla 342 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: charging network in a public way, in a non Tesla, 343 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: you would it would not be one third. I didn't 344 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: even think it'd be half. I think it would be 345 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: at best two thirds of the cost. Because it is enormous, 346 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: and I worry that people are going to build themselves 347 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: into a world where they think that the long term 348 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: cost because everyone all these car companies. They say, oh, 349 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: but the you know, the car is expensive up front, 350 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: but the four year cost the life of the car is. 351 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: This and that. 352 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: That's what Tesla say. When you buy the car, actually 353 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: put it in writing. I will actually put it how 354 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: much they expect you do that. 355 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: With a BYD and you assume that you're going to 356 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: charge at other places. You're at the behest of Evy 357 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: charge Fox and Tesla not putting their prices up like 358 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: petrol stations do. 359 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: Well. 360 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: I mean it actually can be non financially viable to 361 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: do electric cars in a public charging way. You've got 362 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: to have your shit sorted at home, and preferably you've 363 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: got to be in the world of solo. I'm not 364 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: there yet, but I'm close. I drove my car down 365 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: to three percent battery and then charge it to one hundred, 366 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: just purely so I could get a calculation off the 367 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: wall boxes to how much it would be twenty one 368 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: dollars it cost me at home to charge. And I'm like, 369 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: there you go, that's one. That's awesome. 370 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: I tell you one thing. 371 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: Though my parents are looking at getting a Tesla. They 372 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: have an underground car park. I am praying for thermal runaway. 373 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: Come on. 374 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: As soon as that happens, I can finally get a 375 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: house in Sydney. It'll be just the best thing in 376 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: the world. 377 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: It is actually though, withithstanding your little concern for your parents, 378 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: it's actually a major issue. Yeah, Like government and other 379 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: developers are looking at not allowing them of charges in 380 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: underground car parks and that's a huge issue for the 381 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: government take up of evs because they have some vehicles 382 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: that can't be parked in open spaces because of the 383 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: gear and stuff on board or whatever. Mate, that's a 384 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: that's a big problem. I want to I don't know 385 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: that it is a big problem yet. 386 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 3: I was going to bring this up when when John 387 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 3: kddogan comes in as well, because he's like, he's got 388 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: quite a. 389 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: Bit, hasn't He found the niche on YouTube, which is 390 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: people fucking hate EV's and will listen to you talk 391 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: about that. I've watched more of his videos in the 392 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: last two months than ever because his research, his way 393 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: to articulate it, and his passion for the thing is brilliant. 394 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: And it's like, mate, he's just gone, these things are 395 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: getting such good views. 396 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to keep going with that That's a 397 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: good thing about John though, like whether you agree or disagree, 398 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: Like he's got a well thought out argument. 399 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, like Paul's got. 400 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: You're pretty much responsible for putting charges in your apartment building, 401 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: which I'm assuming has got underground parks. 402 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we actually rolled out the full charging infrastructure 403 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 4: at our apartment building. We've since sold that apartment But 404 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 4: what actually happened after that, we got a letter from 405 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: the Body Corporate Group for that apartment building and seventy 406 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: five other apartment buildings in the city, and it was 407 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 4: a subsidiary of Central Equity, so a big company. They've 408 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: actually recommended to all of the owner's corporations that they 409 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: do not install any EV charging equipment in any of 410 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 4: these buildings until the government releases some kind of regulations 411 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: around it. And it's a real tricky one because the 412 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 4: government's regulations aren't going to be able to change the 413 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 4: fact that if you get a vehicle with a lithium 414 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: ion battery catch fire and it gets thermal runaway, that 415 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 4: it is very difficult to put out, So their regulations 416 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 4: aren't going to mean anything. And if the regulations are 417 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 4: that you have to have bigger water supplies in apartments. 418 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 4: It is going to be so cost prohibitive. Anyone that's 419 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 4: ever dealt with the fire services company will know that 420 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 4: doing every the most minor thing is astronomically expensive. To 421 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 4: just totally change pump systems, piping and water supplies within 422 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 4: apartment buildings, it would be impossibly cost prohibitive for some 423 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 4: of these minus corporations who are dealing with huge increases 424 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 4: in insurance costs and the like. So I just don't 425 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: see it happening. 426 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, there was something one of my neighbors 427 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: works for, like the New South Wales Fire Safety blah 428 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: blah blah is getting on our local community Facebook page 429 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: saying yeah, saying, look, they shouldn't be installed underground. 430 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: They shouldn't be there. We've been warned there is. It's 431 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 3: basically really tricky at the moment for fire departments to 432 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: put these sorts of fires out. 433 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: My concern is that it's kind of like the scooter 434 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: and bike drama that's going on at the moment. It's 435 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: a legitimate problem, but it's a legitimate problem because of 436 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: idiots who buy cheap shit on Ali Barber or wish 437 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: dot com and it doesn't pass Australian safe regulations. You 438 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: buy an electric scooter or a bike it Harvey's or JB's, 439 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's not going to explode as long 440 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: as you use the included charger in the same bike. Right. 441 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: But you get someone who buys one off in China 442 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: and they plug in random charger into it, or it 443 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: just doesn't have a battery management system, that's what's exploding. 444 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: My concern is that we actually haven't had that I 445 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: know of proven fire where it was the car at 446 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: fault or an authorized charger. Right. So the wall box 447 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: that I bought in Australia and the qualified electrician I 448 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: had to install it, and a car that is clearly 449 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: meeting regulations, I'm pretty confident that mine is not going 450 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: to just go up in flames. But I joined early on, 451 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: when I thought I was going to get an Atto three. 452 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 2: I joined all the Facebook groups. The number of people 453 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: in those groups that are just telling each other where 454 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 2: to get these wall boxes, these charging cables and all 455 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: this shit. It's like, mate, does any of this meat 456 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: Australian standards? And that is where it's all going to 457 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: come undone. I don't reckon it'll be the charger. I 458 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: don't reckon it the car I reckon. People have cheap 459 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: shit cables in between, and that kind of stuff. 460 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: Happens with phones as well. 461 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, that's exactly right. 462 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: That's probably what caused that, for instance, to backpack a fire, right. 463 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: Exactly, it would have been a bike that was absolutely 464 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: not bought a Jbhifi. It would have been plugged into 465 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: a charger and left on and it didn't have a 466 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: battery management system, and up it went. But how do 467 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: you You can't regulate that because you can't regulate what's 468 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: coming into the country in the post. So we are 469 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: in a situation where you have actually have to regulate 470 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: to assume that shit's going to go on. And therefore, 471 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: you know, basement installs may be a problematic thing for buildings, 472 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: and that obviously causes a whole raft of other issues 473 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: when you try and move towards evs with off street 474 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: parking and all that kind of joy. 475 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: It's an interesting one because it's so rare. It is 476 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: kind of rare, like an EV fire, but it also 477 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: doesn't mean it's not. 478 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: If you read a photo expert, that's that's the thing. 479 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: He's unpacked every single one, and it's been brilliant like 480 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: that one of the Paul Did you see that, it's 481 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: like a fucking car. 482 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 483 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: We wasn't in the car. 484 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 4: For fuck's sake. What are we doing? 485 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: Come down, Trevor Jeans. It's annoying. You're going to have 486 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: a heart attack. I thought, just just calm down. I'm 487 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: worried about your health. How is that going, by the way, No, 488 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: not good. Did you get that thing fixed on your 489 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: bum na? 490 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave it there. No one's looking at 491 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: it anyway. 492 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 4: Speaking of things that people are looking at, we we 493 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 4: were watching your stories when you're over at the iPhone launch. 494 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: A couple of questions I had. Did they say anything 495 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 4: about the Apple car that they're sort of rumored to 496 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 4: be working on. 497 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: No, nothing at all, And I'll tell you why, because 498 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 2: they're not working on a car, the Apple car. Do 499 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: you remember the rooms about Apple TV an Apple Physical 500 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: TV back in the day. It was like during the 501 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 2: time of the Steve John's biography. I reckon what happened 502 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: back then is exactly what's happening now with the car. 503 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 4: I reckon they did. 504 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: They did fuck around and look at a TV and 505 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: they did the business case, and they went, why would 506 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: we build, you know, TVs try and get two percent 507 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: market share when we could build a little box that 508 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: any TV could run. And then it evolved into an app. Right, 509 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: So the car, I've got no doubt they thought about 510 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: a car, They looked at the man all that stuff, 511 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: and then they went, you know what, why don't we 512 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: just own the digital infotainment of cars? And that's when 513 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: they Earlier this year they announced that the next iterations 514 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: of Apple Car Play would in fact be your dashboard, 515 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: not just your infotainment, but you're interconnectivity with the car. 516 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: So they'll be widgets for the air conditioning and all 517 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: that shit. And I'm sure BMW will be first with this, 518 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 2: as they were with a lot of the stuff. So 519 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 2: the next iteration, and I think the final iteration for 520 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: the Apple car is just that your phone plugged into 521 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: the car or wirelessly. More importantly, will be what you 522 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 2: see in front of you. It'll all be you and 523 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: customized and personalized, and it'll be another battle of the 524 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: cars versus you know, human beings wanting to run their 525 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: own infosystems. But yeah, I don't think there'll be a 526 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: physical car in the same way that Dyson looked at 527 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: a car but publicly went we're not going to do it. 528 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: They did kind of make a concept though, I've. 529 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: Got no doubt Apple made a concept, but they're not 530 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: going to release that. They never would, but Dyson. I 531 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: thought it was fucking really cool that Dyson went, here's 532 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: what we did. It didn't We didn't. We couldn't make 533 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: it work. 534 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 3: It's interesting because you always hear like little bits that oh, 535 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: they're in talks with Kia, or they're in talks with 536 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 3: Yun Day and blah blah blah blahlah. But then but 537 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 3: they are well, but also what if they're they do 538 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: build a car that's an absolute premium product that's not 539 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: necessarily going to be for main use. 540 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: I mean, I could be completely wrong, obviously, but I 541 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 2: just think that every time you know some of the rumors, 542 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 2: the way you get to get a great story is 543 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: you hear a rumor at a bar or something. Right, 544 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 2: you hear a bloke from Apple Talk and a bloke 545 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: at Hoyonda, and you go, hang on a minute, what 546 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 2: the fuck's going on here? Well, actually, they were just 547 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: talking about how they're introducing a new, better Ultra wideband 548 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 2: chip into the next generation iPhones, which will mean that 549 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: you can unlock your car in an even better way 550 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: from your phone and all. Like, it's just they're just 551 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 2: improving all of the ways we use our phone today, 552 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: like unlocking your car, entering the car, starting the car, 553 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: and using the photament and dashboard. They're just going to 554 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: make all of that better. And for that reason, of course, 555 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: they're working with all the car companies, but you know, 556 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: some of them might be talking to them, but some 557 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: of them might have breached really bad embargoes or NBA's 558 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: by telling people they were working together. But yeah, I 559 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: don't think a physical, real vehicle will come. 560 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 4: Well. I actually that brings me on to the next 561 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: thing I was going to ask, which is the new 562 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 4: version of Apple car Play. I've just upgraded to iOS seventeen, 563 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: and I really like that new layout and the way 564 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 4: that it's set up. And I really also like the 565 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 4: concept of them ditching a manufacturer infotainment system because they're 566 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 4: just most of them are just a pile of shit 567 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 4: and just very poor to use. And you get in 568 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 4: the car, you plug your phone up, the only thing 569 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 4: you touch is car Play, So why not just make 570 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 4: the whole thing car play. Do you reckon that that 571 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 4: means cars will become more secure or do you think 572 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 4: that they will become more prone to hacking? A tense 573 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 4: if it all is through the one sort of software stack. 574 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 2: Great question. I reckon more secure because I think Apple 575 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: is so ridiculously crazy about privacy that they don't want 576 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: to be associated with the potential for any you know, 577 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: interactivity from the outside with a car. So my guess 578 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: is more secure, I reckon in the long run with 579 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: that kind of setup. And I think it's fascinating. You're 580 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: right with like info tament and may. I read every 581 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 2: review of the Cooper Born. I watched every video, and 582 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: one of the things that stood out to me a 583 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 2: couple of times was people bagging that it didn't have 584 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 2: sat NAV, Like, it didn't have a sat NAV built in? 585 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: What the fuck do I want a sat Nay for no, 586 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: you don't one never touched. I've been driving review cards 587 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 2: for years. I've probably twice used the built in sat NAV, 588 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: and that was probably because I hadn't pared my phone 589 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: and was in a hurry. 590 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 3: And then, yeah, manufacturing navigation is always And in. 591 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: Fact, it was only two nights ago that I found 592 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: out that when I'm using Apple CarPlay in my Coupra 593 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: and I'm using Apple Maps, the guide, it's the arrow 594 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 2: navigation appears on the fucking instrument cluster. I have no idea. 595 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: That's like a BMW style thing. And I'm like, this 596 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: is shit hot. That's the kind of stuff that that 597 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: the car companies are doing that just makes it a 598 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: better user experience for the average Joe. And I think, 599 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: like I think I spoke about this before, my biggest 600 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: bugbear is Kia and Hyundai not allowing their most premium 601 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 2: vehicles to have wireless Apple car Play. And it's because 602 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 2: they don't. 603 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: There is something going on there though, right. 604 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 2: I've spoken to them and they said to me, basically, 605 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: Apple and Google require that if you're using wireless Apple 606 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 2: carp Play and you get in the car, that when 607 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: you turn the car on, car Play comes up, because 608 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: that's obviously what you wanted as a human. But Kia 609 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: and Hyundai want you to first see their beautiful, you know, 610 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: million dollar infotainment system and then click Apple Carpet. 611 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can still do that, like my car's 612 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 3: got wireless and everything comes up and you just choose 613 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 3: the box. 614 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it comes up by default with car play. 615 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, but as a choose able icon, and that's what 616 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: he doesn't want. That's the oddest detail ever though. Really 617 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: that's what it boils down. 618 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: They want you to know they've got their own infotainment 619 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: system and they've spent so much time and effort and 620 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: energy on the UI and it's nice, it's probably one 621 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: of the better ones out there. 622 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: But still see all that it would just come up 623 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: as an icon though. 624 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: Could you imagine spending seventy thousand dollars on a Keya 625 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: Carnival Platinum Edition right now and not having wireless CarPlay. 626 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: That is absolutely wild to me. 627 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 628 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: I don't know about that one though. I feel like 629 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: it's just all it would be, would be an icon 630 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: coming up on the on their screen. 631 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: That it would be. That's what Kia wants. But Apple 632 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: and Google, the way it works, it just comes up 633 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: by default. So it's it's basically a stalemate in the 634 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: negotiating table. And because Google and Apple have held their 635 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: ground with every other manufacturer like BMW on everyone, they 636 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 2: have to hold their ground with Kia and Hyunda. 637 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: Hmmm, that's crazy, but I just think that that is 638 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 4: the dumbest move, because it totally boggles my mind that 639 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 4: you can get into a base model Yuda where wireless 640 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 4: car play works perfectly fine, and then the or you 641 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 4: spend the less features you get the other interesting one 642 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 4: as well. I heard on the grapevine that they were 643 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 4: having issues with the new iPhones, the fifteens overheating, and 644 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: I think it was specifically with BMW wireless chargers. Is 645 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 4: that a phone issue or is that a wireless charging 646 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: protocol issue? 647 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: I don't think it is specific to the wireless chargers. 648 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: So I've been using the iPhone fifteen since the date 649 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: was announced, so like a week and a half before 650 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: it was released. I've been using for a long time. 651 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: But well just timescale mate, Okay, it's important to note, 652 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: and I've never had the issue, right. So what they 653 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: determined was that there's a couple of factors. One is 654 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: if you do you know, when you set up a 655 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: new phone, says do you want to restore via the 656 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: cloud or direct If you use the cloud and you've 657 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: got a decent amount of you know, photos and storage 658 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: and everything in the cloud, and you're using apps like 659 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: Uber and Instagram for some reason, there was a couple 660 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: of apps they isolated, those things were all just chewing 661 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: it in the background. The cloud was continued to back 662 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: up while you went away and used the phone, and 663 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: all those things combined was just drawing the power and 664 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: heating it up. So I think, if they haven't already, 665 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: they're putting out a software update and that will avoid 666 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: the issue. I think when you the BNW wireless charging issue, 667 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: I think if you're in that situation where you're backing 668 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 2: up from the cloud and stuff and then you're charging, 669 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: it's always going to Like if you have any iPhone 670 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: in any car, if you're running wireless car play ways 671 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: and you're wireless charging, you've got heat from the charge, 672 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: You've got heats from the GPS and of the broadcast 673 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: of the signal. It's gonna overheat. It's gonna get hot. 674 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: So there's only so much they can do to control that. 675 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: I always find though, when you've got an iPhone and 676 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: a wireless charger and you're using wireless car plays there's 677 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: always interruptions. 678 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: The tolls interrupted. Do you notice that I've not worked 679 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: it out, But you're a wireless Apple car play and 680 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: you go through any toll gate, it just skips the music. 681 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: Ah. 682 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: You know what it also does if you're on a 683 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: phone call in some cars, when it does when you 684 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 4: go through the gantry and it has that half a 685 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 4: second skip, it actually introduces lag in the phone call, 686 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: so you end up talking over the other person because 687 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 4: their signal is coming in half a second later. It 688 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 4: is the most curious thing in the world. I've noticed 689 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 4: it a few times now when I've been driving back 690 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 4: on a phone call and you go through a gantry, 691 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 4: and one time was when I was doing a radio interview. 692 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: So you end up with this horrible outcome. 693 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: It was horrific. So I think that's fixed now because 694 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 4: I haven't had that recently, But that is a weird one. 695 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 4: It actually raises the question how much is that shit 696 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 4: emitting If it's able to interrupt your phone while you're 697 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 4: driving through. 698 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: Have you ever put your E tag, you know, not 699 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: on the wind screen and just left or whatever. Yeah, 700 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: it works, it's it's it's scanning. Let'll tell you. 701 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 4: It's actually fun to measure the level of output from 702 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 4: those gantries, just to see if it's actually frying your brain. 703 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: You're getting the equipment and standing in the middle of 704 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: the motorway made for great social con I'll tell you 705 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: one thing I did discover recently on that trip. There's 706 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: a new when we're talking wiless charging, there's a new 707 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: wireless charging standard coming. So right now the standard is 708 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: called chea spelled QI, and you will see this little 709 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: logo on all the cars when it's whiles charging cheap 710 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: annoyingly for cars because we all know there's like a 711 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: six year lead time on these things, this will be 712 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: a while off. But the new standard is basically mag 713 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: safe for everyone. So you know Apple's mag Safe, where 714 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: you put your phone on something and it magnetically attaches, 715 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: so it's sent. The reason for that is it's centers 716 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: so that it's the most optimum charging, right, So all 717 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: phones will get and we're probably talking next year's Samsung's 718 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: or maybe the year after, we'll get this GI two, 719 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: which is stupidly what it's going to be called. It 720 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: should be called magnetic attached or something. But here's the 721 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: benefit of that for cars, and I think it's better 722 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: in cars than any other use case. When BMW and 723 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 2: everyone else introduces G two, you won't have this situation 724 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: where you've got to fucking find that spot and if 725 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: you heavily break in the phone moves, it stops charging. 726 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: I mean it's great to have the big phone, which 727 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: is normally the one that's all the charges are made for. 728 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: But if you've got a smaller phone, it's sometimes hard 729 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: to find that sweet spot. So that what the magnetic 730 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: attach will be a game changer for cars in six years. 731 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 4: Also, just checking Trevor, is it is it called the 732 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 4: g spot. 733 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: Whatever? 734 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: Wouldn't know. Actually I found out. We're trying to still 735 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: look for it. 736 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, see Gordy's filthy that you came up with that one. No, 737 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 6: it's a good good gags in your contract that you 738 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 6: do all the gags. 739 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 4: Leave the jokes to me champions. 740 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I seen some of those lately. Oh hey, 741 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 3: this is just completely off topic to Tesla semi right, 742 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: the big, big, big trucks. Did you see any of 743 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 3: them when you're over there? 744 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: Not on the road? One at the Peterson Museum. Yeah, 745 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: and I haven't seen one on the road. 746 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: Because there've been anyone to love by Pepsi at the moment, right. 747 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: A lot, I don't know what's a lot? 748 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 6: Does he he drove one? You know how he's crappy 749 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 6: Kasha whatever it is yeah, that one. 750 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 2: Oh, he's driven pretty much every time he drove the roadster, 751 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 2: but he drove the truck and it's funny you watch 752 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 2: him come out of this this lot and you can 753 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: basically hear the suspension make noises when as it goes 754 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: over a very small gutter and the comments are whild 755 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: It's like that doesn't sound good, and yeah, it's not 756 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: a good look, but I mean it's an exciting thing. 757 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 2: I'm more interested. Have you seen the Edison truck guy 758 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: in Canada? No, No, you should look him up here. 759 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 2: He's created he's you know, typical Canadian, but he's very 760 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: very green. He's got this plan to be in all Canadian. 761 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: But he's building this truck called the Edison Truck. And 762 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: it doesn't look like a tesla at all. Right, it 763 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: looks like a Bedford from nineteen fifty. But it's got 764 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 2: a diesel generator in front of the cab, so it's 765 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 2: got like, it's not a cab over it's you know, 766 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: a big, big nose style and all that's cool, but 767 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: a big diesel generator so that it's like a Chevy 768 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: Vault or a Holding Vaults. It can charge the battery 769 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 2: as it goes so he can get more range. And 770 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: the thing is he's built this thing to a point 771 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,479 Speaker 2: where every part is obtainable essentially, you know from Super 772 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: g Bordo. Like every bolt, every suspension, every coil, everything 773 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: is just stuff that you can buy. He looked at 774 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 2: the headlight. It was like one hundred dollars and it's 775 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 2: a thousand bucks for a Mac headlight. So he's kind 776 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: of building this people's electric truck. Took it to a 777 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 2: show recent It's really cool. 778 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 4: You should. 779 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the original version, and he's made a modern money. 780 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: He's pretty big on TikTok. I'll send you both the 781 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: link at some point. Yeah, it's really cool. I mean, 782 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 2: it's just cool to see people mucking around and kind 783 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 2: of innovating in that space because it is a bit 784 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: head zone. 785 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 4: Because yeah, I don't know if you saw recently, some 786 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 4: bloke got a small dent in his Rivian. I guess 787 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 4: it's like a single cast or something like that. They 788 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 4: it was thousands and thousands of dollars to fix. And 789 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 4: I think a lot of new cars these days, they're 790 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 4: expensive to buy, they're expensive to ensure, and then when 791 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 4: you have an accident, they are out rape justly expensive 792 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 4: to fix. And I've just imagined in ten years time 793 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 4: when someone owns one of these secondhand it's it's just 794 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 4: going to be a throwaway item that's just too too 795 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 4: cost prohibitive to actually fix. 796 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 5: Can you send that to Paul because I don't have 797 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 5: his number? What a little bitch, bitch send it to Paul. 798 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 5: I'm not doing that, Edison Motors, No one cares. I 799 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 5: just Google imaged it and it really wasn't that impressive, 800 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 5: And I just like. 801 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 2: No, it's an unimpressive looking thing, one hundred percent. But 802 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: when you when Paul deep dives into that TikTok account, 803 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 2: he's going to really He's going to really. 804 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah right, sure, sure it. 805 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 4: Does look interesting. I think it's it's a great concept. 806 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's that's that's a very diplomat. It looks like 807 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: absolute showers a sympathy. 808 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 4: It. Actually, it looks really interesting and. 809 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 2: That's the production well, the concept version. 810 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think it's I think it's interesting. 811 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 2: That is a pretty pretty solid batter way. Is it 812 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 2: really very cool? 813 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 4: Fuck? 814 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: Have you been cruising for bitches in the new Coopra Stillborn? 815 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 2: I've had the car a month and a half. My 816 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 2: wife hasn't even sat in it. Yeah right, because so 817 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: she took the piece out of me as a midlife 818 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: crisis car. For the three or four months I had 819 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 2: to wait for it, and we had to go down 820 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 2: to Saint Leonard's at one point and we were early, 821 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: so we stopped at the dealer and I wanted to 822 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 2: show my sixteen year old car and stuff, and so 823 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: she refused to come into the dealership. But why we 824 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 2: convinced to come in and just sit down and wait. 825 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 2: She had a look at the car. She's like, you 826 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 2: should have got in that fucking color and all this 827 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Then she sits in the back and 828 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: she goes, she's only got four seats, and I went, yep, 829 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: it's only got four seats. And she doesn't know that's 830 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 2: an option that I talked because it's the interior pack. 831 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: And she goes, we've got three kids, and I went, 832 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: when was the last time all five of us got 833 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 2: in our Mazda two. Okay, we own a fucking key 834 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 2: a carnival for Christ's sake. 835 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 836 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 2: I am in massive trouble for buying a four seater 837 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: for a five family. 838 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: I feel like it's only a matter of time before 839 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 3: or your wife leaves you and you're stuck with your 840 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 3: robots and your bloody all this tech crap. You're in fact, 841 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 3: you'll probably come out as a robosexual. 842 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 2: Look, I'm not going to comment on whether or not 843 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: that'll be an exciting time for me. But we're happily married, 844 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: thank you, and I don't see that changing while ever. 845 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 2: The kids are with us, and she keeps saying the 846 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 2: kids are going to stay with us forever, so that 847 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 2: maybe that's the only. 848 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 4: Thing I hope I've got. This is Sydney. 849 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 1: We need a place to live. 850 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 2: Well, I thank you. That's the hard thing, you know. 851 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 2: Like I got a kid who's getting his l's getting 852 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 2: his peas in two months. Like I'm old, Like I'm 853 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 2: he's in year twelve. Now, I'm an old man. 854 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 3: I know you didn't need to bring your kids into it. 855 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 3: We can just look at you and tell you are 856 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 3: very old. Did he sit next to Jesus in primary school? 857 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: That's a good one. It's actually not bad. 858 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: Did you have a fuck? I would have thought I. 859 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: Would have gone just a little bit more like just 860 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 2: modern old. That's Jesus is just a bit too far 861 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 2: and you know not I go for the twenties as 862 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 2: opposed to the zero's. 863 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: Did you get a BJ from Dame Melly Melbup. 864 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 2: Wow, she wasn't putting out at the time. 865 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 4: He's run out of question. Question Trev. When you mentioned 866 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 4: that you had the iPhone before it was released, does 867 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 4: how does that operate? Is it similar to a press 868 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 4: car where they sort of send it out to you 869 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 4: to return it once you're done. How does all that 870 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 4: stuff work? 871 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 2: So Apple's probably the most rigid of all the companies, 872 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: and it's so good because you know what you expect. 873 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 2: So you go on the trip and there's normally maybe 874 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: ten people on the trip. You don't no one knows 875 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 2: who got the call because they don't tell you what 876 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 2: you're doing. You just get taken away to meetings, and 877 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 2: you might be taken to the iPhone meeting. So you 878 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 2: go to a meeting it's about the iPhone. You kind 879 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 2: of go, yes, I'm getting the iPhone. Then it used 880 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 2: to be they give it to you over there, but 881 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 2: these days they wait until you get back in your land. 882 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 2: And the career comes that Datia house with pretty much 883 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: one of everything. So I've got every version of the iPhone, 884 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 2: every cover and all that stuff gets sent. The watches 885 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 2: and everything arrived between. So you sign an agreement that 886 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 2: is your review Agreement NDA and everything and it has 887 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 2: a loan agreement. It's for for me, I can't speak 888 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 2: very wrong, but for me, all my all my Apple 889 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 2: devices are pretty much one year, so I like, I know, 890 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: And I got an email two days after receiving the 891 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: new ones from the Apple loan account that said, you've 892 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 2: got these these devices due back and it was all 893 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: last year's phone. So box them up and they send 894 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 2: a career and they take them back. So yeah, they're 895 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: very It's a great system because you know what you're 896 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 2: like some stuff it's like, am I keeping this? 897 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 4: Is this? 898 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 2: I've got to send this back to I need to 899 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 2: keep the box, like it's really annoying. So Apple stuff, 900 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 2: it's great. There's a shelf in my office which is 901 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 2: just all Apple boxes. I find the box, put the 902 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 2: product back in, send it back and yeah, you get 903 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 2: normally a year like all the You're not saying that's 904 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 2: the life cycle of the product, but you know, I've 905 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 2: got a Max Max studio and a Mac Mini and 906 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 2: and a laptop, and like I'll send stuff back early 907 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 2: because I don't need all that shit sitting around. But yeah, 908 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 2: it's pretty much that way, and it's it's just like cars. 909 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 2: You know, there's a there's a there's normally one embargo 910 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 2: and one kind of soft embargo. The first embargo is 911 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 2: normally the Tuesday. What they did this year was really annoying. 912 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 2: It was a Monday night of Tuesday, not a Wednesday 913 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 2: night embargo for the watch, the phone, and the I 914 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 2: can't remember what the other thing was, but three different things, 915 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 2: and you you know, there's only a certain number of 916 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 2: people to have that. And then back in Australia, all 917 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 2: the other journeys or anyone that didn't go to the 918 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 2: event will get a briefing that week and they'll probably 919 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: drop their reviews the day it comes out, so you 920 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 2: probably a few days after embargo, but you know, you're 921 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 2: still pretty early on before people get the phone. 922 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 3: I saw something during the week which I found really interesting. 923 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 3: I was probably a TikTok or something like that, but 924 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 3: about the there's like people at Apple that just designed 925 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 3: the boxes, and there's something like within like like the 926 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 3: psychology of you, like when you open up an Apple box, 927 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,919 Speaker 3: it's supposed to it's supposed to be slow. 928 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: You know, when you it's kind of like you can't 929 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: get the thing out. Yeah, you can't higgle it. That's 930 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: supposed to be like some sort of anticipation, sort of 931 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: like similar to I don't know if you slap the 932 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: poke's and waiting for it's. 933 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: One of those mental it's like jingles and stuff like that. 934 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 2: There's a reason they work a certain way, Yeah, one 935 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 2: hundred percent because when you take when firstly it's that 936 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 2: slow drop of the box opening, and then the way 937 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: they choose to cover the phone, it's it's now a 938 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: white cover and appeals off just really. 939 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: Beautifully in a weird way satisfying, right, it. 940 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: Is oddly satisfying. The one if you ever get to 941 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 2: do it, that is probably the most amazing is their 942 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 2: mac what do they call it pro display or their 943 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 2: studio display big monitor, because it's a massive box, right, 944 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 2: but you open it up and there's it's all cardboard, 945 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 2: there's no styrofoam, there's no nothing, but the engineering inside 946 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 2: is such that you pull two bits of cardboard apart, 947 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 2: like open it like a butterfly, and the thing kind 948 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 2: of raises like it's fucking wild that the whole box 949 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 2: is a mechanism as well. Yeah, and then you know 950 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 2: you get this beautiful machine inside it. There's no one 951 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 2: else that does that, no one else. 952 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 5: No. 953 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: I wish they did that with cars. 954 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 3: I don't know how, but there's there's a couple of 955 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 3: people I watched that have, like, you know, will take 956 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 3: premium cars Bentley's or whatever. 957 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: As they get delivered to the dealership, they'll come in 958 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: some sort of you know, zipper bag. 959 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, like a Porsche nine to eleven GT three comes 960 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 2: in basically a white you know, has matt suit of 961 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: its own. Yes, and you see people. 962 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: Box these things mr and all that so good. 963 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 2: I would have I would have happily peeled off all 964 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 2: the bits of plastic on my car. If they gave 965 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 2: me a list, I would have done. 966 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: Dealership should definitely do that because an option like there's 967 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: there's almost such an anti climax when you go pick 968 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: up a car. It's like, oh, would you like a 969 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: coffee bottle of water? Whatever. 970 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 3: They pretty much just flicky your keys and go, you know, 971 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 3: how to work the tech, Yeah, okay, see you later. 972 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 2: I was blown away by how much time they spent 973 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 2: with me on the car picking it up it was. 974 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: It was an excellent delivery because he sat me down 975 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 2: and he pressed every button. The only thing he didn't 976 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 2: tell me about was the fact that there was that 977 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 2: nav thing, and I don't think you knew it existed. 978 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 2: So he went through every setting. It was like he 979 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 2: wanted to set the settings up for me, and I'm like, 980 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 2: I actually want to do this later and I want 981 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 2: to choose that later. But it was good to see 982 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 2: it all that it was there. I thought they spent 983 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 2: a reasonable amount of time. I was blown away that 984 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 2: they don't do pre delivery at the dealership. There's just 985 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: a big fucking factory up at Mount Kringo north of 986 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 2: Sydney where a bunch of dealerships all under the Alto group. 987 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 2: Just all the cars go there and there's just a 988 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 2: production line of pre delivery and ceramic coating, whatever the 989 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 2: hell you choose to do, and then they get chipped 990 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 2: to the dealer basically ready to put in the showroom. 991 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 2: So it's changed from back when I worked to Suton 992 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 2: City Holden and there was pre delivery going on back 993 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 2: in the workshop efficiency. 994 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 1: I guess, well were you doing back there? 995 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 2: I was just the office point man. I was just 996 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: making coffees for people around and data entry. I remember 997 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 2: doing data entry must have just been repetitive because I 998 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 2: learned the number pad on the keyboard so well. Even 999 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 2: to this day, I can without looking, I can do 1000 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 2: the number pad. 1001 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 3: They were actually there was nothing there. It was just 1002 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 3: like we need to give this like he's got special kids, 1003 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 3: some stuff to do. 1004 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: Here, you have some number It's a real job. 1005 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 2: But I didn't even get to really drive cars around. 1006 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, I thought it was cool. 1007 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: I love that. You're questioning that later on in life, No, 1008 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: I love it. It's like, oh wait, hey, god, this 1009 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: doesn't add a sudden. 1010 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: City Holding was fun fact, the first Holden dealership in 1011 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 2: Australia to have that back then new style of the 1012 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 2: of the rounded edge on the on the sign, the 1013 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 2: big new weird looking signs, the ones they ended with 1014 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 2: when that was launched. It was sometin City Holding. And 1015 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: even more fun fact, all the fonts were Italic when 1016 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 2: it first launched, and they looked at it and went, fuck, 1017 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 2: we don't like that, and then they ripped it all 1018 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 2: down and put it up non Italic and that was 1019 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 2: what rolled out around Australia. 1020 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: I love that. That's a fun fact to you. 1021 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 3: Another fun fact italic font fuck bringing the content, Trev. 1022 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 2: Now tell me. 1023 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: About you, Pavelo. 1024 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 3: What's what sort of exciting delivery stuff have you obtained 1025 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 3: over the years. 1026 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 4: I wish I had some fun fun facts like that. 1027 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 2: No, actually, that's kind of as genuine as the last one. 1028 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 4: We've got a story going live in a couple of 1029 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 4: weeks where we drove a pair of GC three RS's 1030 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 4: and one of the things we did as part of 1031 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 4: that story was actually unzipping the car. So it came 1032 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 4: to the dealer in that full sort of thing. But 1033 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 4: the problem was we started unzipping the car, I got 1034 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 4: to the back of it and it had a massive 1035 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 4: dint car and the guy and I hope he didn't 1036 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 4: actually get into trouble, but his job is checking all 1037 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 4: the cars when they come off the trucks, and that's 1038 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 4: the reason they actually unzip it while it's on the 1039 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 4: truck because if it is damage, they pass on liability 1040 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 4: to the truck driver or the trucking company. So this 1041 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 4: was the only car in that batch that they hadn't 1042 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,959 Speaker 4: checked and it had massive dint in it. So yeah, 1043 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 4: that's part of the reason they don't allow customers to 1044 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 4: do pre delivery because they could pick up all of 1045 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 4: this stuff and then make sure the customer actually then 1046 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 4: takes the car away. So yeah, that was a that's 1047 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 4: my fun fact. 1048 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 2: So can I ask is that obviously arranged? You arrange 1049 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 2: that with owners of the cars, because I mean that's 1050 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 2: pretty awesome thing to be able to experience. 1051 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, these were two press cars that they were preparing 1052 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 4: for the launch, and the story that we're doing is 1053 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 4: that we were running the two cars in. They needed 1054 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 4: fifteen hundred k's on them before they could exceed six 1055 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,720 Speaker 4: thousand rpm. So we were running the cars in doing 1056 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 4: a country in our back drive from Melbourne to the Bend. 1057 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 4: So these these are going to be sold to someone eventually, 1058 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 4: but in the interim they were going to be press cars, 1059 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 4: and you know, the owner was Push Australia the cars. 1060 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 4: But I think just based on the process that they 1061 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 4: went through, you also wouldn't want customers seeing that environment 1062 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 4: because to me it was just a workshop. But to 1063 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 4: a customer who's spending you know, these cars are now 1064 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 4: eight hundred and fifty grand on the road. For a 1065 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 4: customer who's spending that kind of money, they don't want 1066 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 4: to see the back of house stuff. They just want 1067 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 4: to turn up and car on and do all that 1068 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 4: sort of stuff. But little do they know people are already 1069 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 4: sat in it to take a petrol station and all 1070 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,720 Speaker 4: this sort of stuff. So it's quite quite a fascinating process. 1071 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 3: How devastating would you be to pick up? Finally you 1072 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 3: get your Porsche GT three rs and it's got a 1073 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 3: bloody DNT in it. I remember taking my stinger to 1074 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 3: get like a paint correction done. Shout out to I 1075 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 3: think they're called Atlass body Works, but they had a 1076 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 3: goal Wing three hundred sl the nineteen fifty four you 1077 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 3: know famous thing that I think Lindsay Fox has got one. 1078 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 3: And this thing was starting geez it was good, and 1079 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 3: I said, wow, what's what's wrong with this car? 1080 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: It's like it looks fine. Did you guys just finish it? 1081 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: He goes no, no, no, Look up the back round 1082 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: the back. 1083 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 3: There was like just just devastating damage done to the 1084 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 3: back of this. 1085 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: Absolute classic car. And what had happened was the owner 1086 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 1: of it had paid like Cathay Pacific some one of 1087 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 1: these big airlines extra cash. Please look after this. This 1088 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: is you know one of the rarest cars in the world. 1089 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah. And one of the one 1090 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: of the straps while it was in transit in the 1091 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: air had come off and bashed the car around up 1092 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: the back and you just go. And they had to 1093 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,959 Speaker 1: foot the bill for it. Not the not the owner, sorry, 1094 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: the airline had to foot the bill. Yeah. Whatever airline 1095 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: that was, by the way, I don't know if it was. 1096 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 4: It was. 1097 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: I don't want to get suit again. 1098 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 2: It was an airline. 1099 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:16,760 Speaker 1: It was an airline. 1100 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: It so I feel like you're like being sued. Look, 1101 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 2: it's bad. 1102 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 3: You want to if I thought that we're a decorated 1103 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 3: soldier in a Ben Robert Smith's kind of way. 1104 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 2: It means they're paying attention. 1105 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, they're listening. How is your performance on 1106 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: the nearburg Ring? How'd you go? How'd you go in 1107 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: your little Audie high car? This is the best story. 1108 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 2: So we we were trapped in Europe. Okay, So I 1109 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 2: book a one way flight to Berlin every year for 1110 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 2: the big show I go to over there because I 1111 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 2: assume the Apple of Launch is going to be the 1112 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 2: week after an Apple will fly me from Europe to 1113 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 2: San Francisco on their home right. So I book a 1114 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 2: one way flight. I'm a cheapskate anyway. Then the rumors 1115 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 2: come out the Apple event is going to a fucking 1116 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 2: week later, and I'm saying to my cameraman Robert, we're 1117 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 2: going to be fucked here. 1118 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 3: This is a very long setup. I just wanted to 1119 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 3: know about the nearby good luck. 1120 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 2: So I'm like, what are we going to do for 1121 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 2: a week, Because it's cheaper to stay in Europe. So 1122 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 2: I go, mate, let's drive across to Paris, because there's 1123 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 2: he can go to. Here's something you can do in Paris. 1124 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 2: I said, But on the way, let's go to the 1125 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 2: neurburg Ring. So that's me. I'm keen. I want to 1126 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 2: do it. I look it up and there's track days, 1127 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 2: and there's tourist days. I go, fucking beautiful. There's a 1128 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,800 Speaker 2: tourist day on the Tuesday. That's when we'll go excellent. 1129 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 2: I watch every YouTube video on the newburg Green website. 1130 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,800 Speaker 2: It's not narrated. It's cartoons that tell you that, you know, 1131 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 2: you got to put your indicator on, you got to 1132 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,720 Speaker 2: overtake on the left, you've got to obey the signs. 1133 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 2: Whatever the fuck. You know, it's just it's really obvious. 1134 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 2: It's very simple. So we turn up I've rented a 1135 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,919 Speaker 2: fucking houty just to get from Berlin to Paris, and 1136 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 2: we turn up outside of the neurburg Ring and it's 1137 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,240 Speaker 2: a fucking cue. There's like a hundred cars and I'm like, wow, 1138 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 2: this is like because I'm expecting Mount Panorama. I just 1139 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 2: want to get on and drive around at sixty k's 1140 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,399 Speaker 2: an hour and experience the track. Right. But let's say 1141 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 2: there's one hundred. Two of them are off the off 1142 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 2: the shelf cars like my fucking Audi. The rest of 1143 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 2: them are fucking race cars. I'm going, this doesn't feel right, 1144 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 2: this is weird, man, And I'm like, we've got to 1145 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 2: do it, and I've got I'm here, I've got to 1146 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 2: do it right. And so we fucking download the app 1147 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 2: and I put the money on and you scan a 1148 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 2: QR code and you're on and i'd start, you know, 1149 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 2: I give it a bit, but I'm going, like a 1150 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 2: hundred and fucking people are just going past me at 1151 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 2: a raider not and I'm going, oh ship, and see 1152 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 2: I would have I would have gone right, I'll give 1153 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 2: it a bit of clappy, but I gotta I gotta 1154 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 2: mate with me in a passenger seat and being a 1155 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 2: passenger with some dick in a road car gone fast 1156 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 2: rental rental, right, and so fucking I'm driving ring Man 1157 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 2: and I've got like the full video of I didn't 1158 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 2: obviously post, but just so much of me going oh fuck, 1159 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 2: where fuck? This is bad. This is not a tourist day. 1160 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: This is bad. 1161 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 2: This is this is the ship you see on YouTube. 1162 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 6: And I realized at this point this they have track 1163 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 6: days that are organized, you know, Porsche and shit high 1164 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 6: at the track, But then they have these two tourist days, 1165 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 6: which is when any dickhead with a roll cage can 1166 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 6: come and smash it into the arm coot like you 1167 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:06,760 Speaker 6: see on fucking YouTube. 1168 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 3: So basically it's really a free for all because you can. 1169 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 3: It is a tourist day, so it's open. But like 1170 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,359 Speaker 3: the so called rules, they don't really know speed them. 1171 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 2: It's you know, there's no posts. I expected, like bath, 1172 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 2: let's just see one speed sign and just go. Yeah, 1173 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 2: I'll stick around fucking one hundred and thirty hundred and 1174 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 2: fifty on the long straight, I'll go fucking one hundred 1175 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 2: and ninety I'll do what I can do, but on 1176 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 2: the corners, I'm keeping it cool here brother, and I 1177 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 2: made I'm halfway around going this is fucking bad because 1178 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 2: there's no way off. It's twenty kilometers. You can't just 1179 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 2: pull off, and I had to do it all. 1180 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 4: You know, it was It was funny, Trev. I actually 1181 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 4: just listening to you say that, I think a lot 1182 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 4: of people don't actually know how it works, and just 1183 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 4: to you know, you obviously can use a computer, you 1184 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 4: can research it, but to still not know what a 1185 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 4: tourist day is just shows you that I actually think 1186 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 4: they need to have genuine tourist days where there is 1187 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 4: a speed limit and you can actually just enjoy it. 1188 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 4: Because I was the same with you, I ended up 1189 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,919 Speaker 4: we did a story with one of the rental car 1190 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 4: companies and if you want to take an actual faster 1191 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 4: car on there, the excess for some of these cars 1192 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 4: is like thirty thousand euros and that's for like an 1193 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 4: entry level BMW, nothing even special. And the entire time 1194 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 4: I was on there, I was petrified that I was 1195 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 4: going to get in the path of someone going fast 1196 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 4: and write this car off and be up for a 1197 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 4: fifty thousand dollars bill for a car that's worth ten grand, 1198 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 4: and it is the most intimidating thing in the world. 1199 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 4: And I had no interest in going back unless it 1200 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 4: was on a closed event where you knew who was 1201 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 4: on there and what cars are beyond there. 1202 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I looked up that there's a lot of 1203 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 2: companies that will rent you essentially a car with a 1204 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 2: roll cage, and I've been open at Tesla, and I 1205 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 2: looked at that. I probably would do that again next time, 1206 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 2: because at least I could go at it with a 1207 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 2: bit of confidence and not get in people's way, because 1208 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 2: that was the thing. I was in people's way, no doubt. 1209 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a beautiful track. I really wanted to 1210 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 2: just drive it. I just wanted to see it. And 1211 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 2: I think that I would pay twenty bucks to if 1212 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 2: there was a two hour window where you could go 1213 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 2: and just experience it, I would, and I think they should. 1214 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 2: And Mate, I posted the video knowing i'd get shit 1215 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 2: canned for it, especially from the locals, and they're like, 1216 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 2: there is no speed, da da da rental car company. 1217 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 2: They're going to fuck you, They're going to bill you. 1218 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 2: And I made I read the rental agreement afterwards because 1219 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,319 Speaker 2: I shit myself. Trust me, they had nothing on me 1220 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 2: because I can't remember what the clause was, but essentially 1221 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 2: it's only if you break the law, and I didn't 1222 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 2: break the law, So actually it wasn't illegal to take 1223 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,880 Speaker 2: the rental car on it. I just I was wearing 1224 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 2: the risk. If I did something wrong, I was fucked. 1225 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 2: But because I'd got off and I was okay, there 1226 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 2: was no recourse. They could take the car that already 1227 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 2: been returned. They can't bill you for something that didn't happen, 1228 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 2: so you know, look, I was in the way, but 1229 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 2: it was a fucking fun experience regardless. And I anyone 1230 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 2: that's into cars like we are, I do think it's 1231 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 2: an awesome thing to do if you do it right, 1232 00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 2: If you go in and you do it right and 1233 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 2: you know what you're getting for. You need to know. 1234 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 2: You need to watch all those videos and realize it 1235 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 2: can go wrong real quick. And there's people there with 1236 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 2: a fucking you know, Mercedes GT Black Edition fucking flying around. 1237 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 6: These are race cars, and it's it's wild. It is 1238 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 6: not a Baptist tourist drive. Well, there's a choice of words. 1239 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,720 Speaker 2: Fucking people. I don't care whose translation, it is tourist 1240 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 2: drive is a shit name for it. 1241 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 4: Can we agree? Yeah? 1242 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 2: Even though I'm a dickhead, it's a shit name for it. 1243 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. 1244 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,959 Speaker 3: I think it's one of those things you genuinely want 1245 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 3: to do, but man, like an AMG blaring past you 1246 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 3: at two hundred k's whatever, It's just you can't have 1247 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 3: it like that. 1248 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 2: You know. The best thing is I got a speeding 1249 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 2: fine in the email two days ago from somewhere near Cologne. 1250 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 2: I was doing one hundred and ten hundred zone. Now 1251 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,799 Speaker 2: you've had fines here in Australia. What do you think? 1252 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 2: Don't get in if you know what it is. How 1253 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 2: much do you think the fine was? Gordy for one 1254 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 2: hundred and ten hundred zone on a German auto barn 1255 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,280 Speaker 2: It's about three hundred here, I reckon for a hundred bucks. 1256 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a feeling it's really high, either really 1257 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: low or seriously high. I'm going to say. I'm going 1258 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: to say about fifteen hundred bucks. I don't know where 1259 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 1: I've heard this before. 1260 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 2: Twenty euros, oh get out. Yeah, I'm like I didn't 1261 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 2: even notice that on my fucking credit card. 1262 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:19,439 Speaker 1: Fuck. 1263 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 4: You know the thing that they do over there, which 1264 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 4: I think is fantastic. On an auto barn, the speed 1265 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 4: limits they have them, the fines aren't that expensive. If 1266 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 4: you were to do the same level of speed over 1267 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 4: the speed limit off the auto barn in a residential area, 1268 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 4: mine is significantly higher. But what they're saying is on 1269 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,839 Speaker 4: the auto barn, you know, stick to the speed limit. 1270 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 4: If you don't, it'll be a slap on the wrist 1271 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 4: as long as long as you're not going too crazy. 1272 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 4: But if you're in a residential area, we're going to 1273 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 4: go to town on you. And I think that is 1274 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 4: exactly how it should be done. 1275 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. 1276 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,240 Speaker 1: The Germans are great drivers, like hands down. 1277 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 2: Honestly, it was a great experience. I've driven Italian auto 1278 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 2: strata before, but never the auto barns. And there was 1279 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 2: a lot of roadworks, to be honest that like, we 1280 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 2: came across roadworks a lot. Mate. We're in the left lane, 1281 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 2: fast lane. I was one hundred and forty at one 1282 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,359 Speaker 2: point and man, I can't round a bend and there 1283 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 2: was a fucking truck, you know, the big cross roadworks 1284 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 2: on I'm like, should you have not warned me of this? 1285 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 2: It was just there It was a bit sketchy at times, 1286 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 2: but there was probably more roadworks than than there was 1287 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 2: open stretches, but it was it's sometimes nice to stretch it, 1288 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 2: like you go on fast, you pull in and Rob 1289 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 2: was with me and he goes, why are we pulling in? 1290 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 2: You know, wait, wait a second, and I just go 1291 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 2: look at that, and I'm going At one point I said, 1292 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm just going to find out how much they're doing, right, 1293 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 2: So I just tail them and it was two hundred 1294 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 2: and something. I got to Titland when I'm out, but 1295 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 2: they're flying like it's wild wild. 1296 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming to the Trevor Long Show. Everyone 1297 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: you asked me. 1298 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 2: You want me to listen to you talk? 1299 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 4: You can trust me. No one wants that they use 1300 00:57:53,640 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 4: it at Guantanamo Bay to get prisoners to yes my voice, no, Gordy, Okay, 1301 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 4: I've had a cupfull of you. We got six hours 1302 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 4: a day of him that they just played. 1303 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,919 Speaker 1: That's right, number one, baby, number one right across. 1304 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 2: Who's number two? 1305 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. They're very far way down. I can't 1306 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: see that far down. 1307 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 2: Number one FM. 1308 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but hang on, no, no, no, In the afternoon, 1309 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm beating your mates a bloody two GB. 1310 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just gonna say, beating. 1311 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 1: Get the fuck out rock SALTI. 1312 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 2: Loyal mate, Sorry, pick and stick. 1313 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: Anyway, it's good to see, it's. 1314 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 2: Great to be here. Where do I send the inots? 1315 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 4: Who's the sponsor? 1316 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: How much would you? 1317 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 4: Genuinely? Lawyers? 1318 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 3: How much would you to our lawyers? That's right, they'll 1319 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 3: probably wipe their ass with that one too. 1320 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 2: Sponsors. 1321 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: No, we should get a sponsor. 1322 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:48,479 Speaker 2: Probably should. 1323 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: What's your business called? 1324 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:49,959 Speaker 2: Again? 1325 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 4: G A? 1326 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: Hang on? Hang on, No, I'm not being a smart ass. 1327 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 1: I genuinely I know. 1328 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 3: You gave me a beautiful heart and an umbrella which 1329 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 3: is in my car. I love it, wear it every day. Now, 1330 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 3: let me think about it. 1331 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 2: He's great because the new hat doesn't have it written 1332 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 2: on the front. 1333 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks good. 1334 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:07,919 Speaker 2: Can I have one of those? 1335 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 3: Okay, I've got to Actually I do. I do have 1336 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 3: something to tell you. Your hat that you gave me. 1337 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 3: I genuinely loved. 1338 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 1: Right, and I wore it, the bad black one with 1339 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 1: the metal badge and very nice right. It felt very premium, 1340 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: which is surprising because it came from you. Right, So 1341 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: I wore that I believe it or not, I wore 1342 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: it to a gym. I was actually going to the gym. 1343 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 6: It was the first time an em merch went to 1344 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 6: a gym. I can tell you that I wear that 1345 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 6: shit every day. Well, here's the thing, here's the thing. 1346 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 6: I wore it to my country club gym, right, and 1347 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 6: I took it off for a brief moment in time, 1348 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 6: and I went outside and I got in the car. 1349 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, bloody left the left my hat next 1350 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 6: to the thing. All right, I'll get it tomorrow morning. 1351 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm here tomorrow morning. 1352 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 2: No worries, country club. It's in his locker. 1353 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: Someone fucking took it. 1354 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Someone took its, right, Cordy. So the new We've 1355 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 2: got two new hats. One of them is the exact 1356 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 2: same hat, but with this rubber logo on the FT's 1357 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 2: good and this one is called Racing Stroke. 1358 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 1: The color, how come you didn't get like blue red 1359 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 1: like the BMW and. 1360 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 5: The colors of the f TM logo, which is okay, 1361 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 5: it's becoming a bit racial, now, isn't it racial? 1362 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 1: These are my colors of my tripe. 1363 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 2: What's uh? 1364 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: What's that? Who ha run the side? 1365 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 2: That's the logo. 1366 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Oh, that's the Oh, that's the business. 1367 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 2: Put the logo on the back instead of I just 1368 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 2: got smart. I just got to the point where it's like, 1369 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 2: you people don't want to wear your logo on their hat, 1370 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 2: but they don't they like to support you, right, So 1371 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 2: this is a hat that you can wear without feeling 1372 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 2: like you're walking around with a fucking. 1373 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: And do people indeed support you? Yeah? Sell the merch. 1374 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 4: Merch? Do you have? 1375 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 2: The umbrellas are exclusive because you can't post the fucking things. 1376 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 2: Some stubby holders, some key rings, some lanyards and hats 1377 01:00:58,720 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 2: chopp dot, eft. 1378 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: N or com. Sorry what was it called? 1379 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 4: This? 1380 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 2: Is this called car expert dot because that's one, isn't it? Yeah? Nearly, 1381 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 2: I nearly forgot. 1382 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 1: The car expert merch. 1383 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 2: They're focused on building their business. I'm focused on just 1384 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 2: spending my money. You're going to choose your factories wisely, Paul, 1385 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 2: I'll hook you up with my merch guy. 1386 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 1: What I'm just let's I'll hook you up. 1387 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 2: And I think Paul's audience is obviously very loyal, so 1388 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 2: I think they would they would love to support we 1389 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 2: have merch to me. My son wears the shirt and 1390 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 2: I've got the cup in my office. 1391 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 1: I have sent some. Yeah, you have you got some? 1392 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. While you're looking that up, can I tell 1393 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 2: you a really funny story about support and punters. It's 1394 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 2: on the bottom of every article on my website. It 1395 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 2: says you know you've got a little buy and says 1396 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 2: buy a Trevor drink if you like this content by 1397 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 2: a Trevor drink. And it's a click a button, but 1398 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 2: you don't drink exactly, it's half the joke. And you 1399 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 2: click a button that takes you to PayPal and you 1400 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,120 Speaker 2: know you can send me money, right. I probably you 1401 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 2: had like thirty people send money right you. 1402 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: Like one of those three weeks ago gets out on Twitter. 1403 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 2: Totally three weeks ago, I got a five dollars donation 1404 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 2: buy me drink? Right cool? Cool cool? And then about 1405 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 2: a week later Blake emails me. You go just wondering 1406 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,439 Speaker 2: if you got my donation and wondering where that goes? 1407 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 2: Is it for a charity or something? And I wrote 1408 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 2: back and. 1409 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 6: Said, mate, it's a It literally says the e f 1410 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 6: GM drink's fun. It's you literally bought me a bottle 1411 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 6: of sun kissed. He fucking thought he was donating five 1412 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 6: bucks of charity via the website The least Wow, Yeah exactly, 1413 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 6: that's where it was going. 1414 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 3: The least you could do is actually buy a bottle 1415 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,479 Speaker 3: of sun Kissed. The least you could do is start 1416 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 3: drinking again. 1417 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 2: I mean, that's I don't need any more. 1418 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 1: Way, here we go. What was the last time you 1419 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: had a drink? 1420 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 2: Bob Fulton's farm when I killed a pig with my 1421 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 2: bare hands. Probably don't want to do that again. What 1422 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 2: is that a weird stak? Now? 1423 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 1: Is that a historical story? 1424 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 2: I should know? 1425 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,439 Speaker 1: Okay, so how long ago was your first drink? 1426 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 2: My first? 1427 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 1: Sorry, your last drink? 1428 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 4: No? 1429 01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 2: No, I mean I've and Ruski around birthday time. 1430 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:03,439 Speaker 4: Fuck. 1431 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 1: Just when I thought, just when I thought you couldn't 1432 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: get anywhorse, all of a lumined Rosky around a certain 1433 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: birthday of an ill umben Ruskies. 1434 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 2: That's my drink, I thought. 1435 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: You can you come across as a cocksacking cowboy kind 1436 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: of guy. 1437 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 2: I've never had a cocktail of any sort. 1438 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: It's not a cocktail, mate, He's in the next room. 1439 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 1: Come on in mate, I wonder where your other guy was. 1440 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 1: He's been lubing up as he Yeah, well for you, 1441 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 1: that's what that little hole in the wall is over there, 1442 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: a little hole. Thank you for coming in, Trevor. 1443 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm here, I really don't. 1444 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: I do enjoy you coming in. 1445 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go downstairs right now and check out your 1446 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 3: cool pruck. You had some clothes hanging up in the 1447 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 3: back seat. Are you living in your car now? 1448 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 2: I've got the Today Show in the morning. 1449 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 4: You dig in? 1450 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: Sure, sure you are. I've got the Today Show in 1451 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 1: the morning. You've got half your fucking wardrobe in there, 1452 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 1: and it's all about the Today Show? Are you gonna 1453 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: Are you going to take those clothes to the Today 1454 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,919 Speaker 1: Show and just be like, all right, this is the best. 1455 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 1: This is the best washing machine you can get. I've 1456 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: got my clothes in here right now. 1457 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 2: No matter I'm gonna take. I'm going to unpack all 1458 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 2: of the carnival load of fucking speakers that I've got 1459 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 2: to take in and then I'll get changed. 1460 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 1: What's your specialty, I'll do the second WA's your little segment. 1461 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 2: Music and speakers? 1462 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 1: Music could say, why didn't you get me on the 1463 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 1: for that? I'm perfect for that. 1464 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 2: I know who you are. You're in my phone as Gordo. 1465 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 2: I forget your name? 1466 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:25,960 Speaker 4: What are you? 1467 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: What are you wearing? What is that stupid dog? 1468 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 2: Ted Lasso? 1469 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 1: I thought, so God, you don't like Ted? 1470 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 3: No, I love Ted Lasso. I just would wear the 1471 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 3: fucking merge of a fictitious TV show. 1472 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 1: Gordo d o E. 1473 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 2: Gordo with an O. 1474 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 1: That spelling's as bad as your bloody car reviews on 1475 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 1: whatever your business is. Do you know what I'm This 1476 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 1: won't even be edited. 1477 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 2: I'm over my contract. 1478 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm just going to throw it straight out normally edit 1479 01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 1: this ship well a little bit? Yeah really yeah yeah yeah? 1480 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 2: Too much top and tail? 1481 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 1: Do you know what everyone's going to be like? Where 1482 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 1: if you were like? This podcast hasn't been on air 1483 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 1: right for about four weeks. I've we've had to take 1484 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 1: some time now. My wife had surgery and blah blah 1485 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 1: blah blah. But to cut a long story short, I've 1486 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 1: been getting some serious brownie points at home because I've 1487 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 1: been pretty much a single dad way she's been bed bound. 1488 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 1: So I thought, I mean, you're pretty much my brownie 1489 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 1: points and cashing them in. Get your tits out. We're 1490 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 1: going to Thailand me and yeah, okay, one trip to Thailand. 1491 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 2: Pink fucking loosest unit. I know, can you? That's ely. 1492 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 1: Let's go to bloody Thailand, me and you, we'll go 1493 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 1: to a ping pong show. We'll get to a ping 1494 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:40,919 Speaker 1: pong show. 1495 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 2: I don't understand how this show exists. 1496 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 4: Do you know? 1497 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,520 Speaker 1: They put onside there? 1498 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 2: He's why everyone? How do we sign off? 1499 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 4: This? 1500 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 1: Actually? 1501 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 4: Hang on? Hang on? 1502 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 3: This is where you This is where you shut up 1503 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 3: for a second because our show it's not yours. We're 1504 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 3: not sponsored by a bloody, stiffy tablet company. There's lots 1505 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 3: of merch coming and there's swapping bloody factories or something. 1506 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 1: Shout out to Gusset Machines. Plast's happening. Hey, so listen 1507 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 1: The Drivers Show dot com dot au, whether you're listening 1508 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 1: to us on iTunes, Spotify, please leave us a five 1509 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,479 Speaker 1: star rating, a funny comment as a review, and yes 1510 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 1: like share do all that. 1511 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 2: You're idiots, both of you. I don't know why you 1512 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 2: do this