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Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh,

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Speaker 1: now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Daily OS. It is Tuesday, the fifteenth of October.

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Speaker 2: I'm billy, I'm emma.

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Speaker 1: You might not know this, but we are now months

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Speaker 1: away from a federal election in Australia, and yesterday a

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Speaker 1: new poll showed the Coalition is ahead of the Labor

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Speaker 1: what that means in today's deep dive, but essentially, at

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Speaker 1: a really basic level, it is good news for Opposition

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Speaker 1: leader Peter Dudden and bad news for Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi.

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Speaker 1: But before we explain further, Emma, what is making headlines today?

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Speaker 3: The federal government will spend ninety five million dollars. It's

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Speaker 3: aimed at protecting Australia from bird flu or avian influenza.

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Speaker 3: It comes amid a global outbreak of the deadly H

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Speaker 3: also announced a twenty two million dollar public health response

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Speaker 3: Senior government ministers said while the current risk remains low,

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Speaker 3: there is no room for complacency and that the latest

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Speaker 3: bird flu strain presents a real and significant threat to

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Speaker 1: New South Wales Premiere Chris Mins has vowed to straighten

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Speaker 1: out any confusion surrounding the state's laws against Nazi salutes.

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Speaker 1: It comes after around fifty men in Balaklava's gathered for

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Speaker 1: The rally led to confusion surrounding the laws in New

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Speaker 3: The world's twenty six poorest economies are in their worst

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Speaker 1: In today's good news, Australian researchers have made significant progress

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Speaker 1: two positive breast cancer impacts around one in five breast

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Speaker 3: Okay, Billy, So today we're talking about a new poll

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Speaker 3: But before we get into what that means why that's significant,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good place to start. Kind

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of disunity around those housing reforms. That's

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Speaker 1: We've also had the cost of living crisis, which has

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Speaker 1: And then when the Australian public said why did you

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Speaker 1: Are we drawn? Are wed? So? I think the last

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think some of those moments have shed

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Speaker 3: can't know. We don't know, but certainly there hasn't been

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Speaker 1: No, I'm trying to think of a win they've had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the commentary around that was a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess another thing I was just thinking about

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Speaker 3: Also, one of the kind of patterns that we're used

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Speaker 3: That as well probably could be taken with a grain

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It will be fascinating to see what happens,

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Speaker 3: I was reflecting a little bit on the political landscape

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Speaker 1: And like you said, I think that is something that

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Speaker 1: Everyone says that America has never been more divided, and

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Speaker 3: be back with another episode of The Daily Ols tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: but until then, have a great day.

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Speaker 1: My name is Lily Madden and I'm a proud Arunda

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Speaker 1: Bungelung Caalcuttin woman from Gadigol Country. The Daly oz acknowledges

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Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the

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Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres

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Speaker 1: Strait Island and nations. We pay our respects to the

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Speaker 1: first peoples of these countries, both past and present,