1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Already and this this is the DAILYA. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 2: This is the Daily os. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 3: Oh, now it makes sense. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 4: Good morning and welcome to the Daily Odds. It's Tuesday, 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 4: the twenty first of May. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm Zara, I'm Sam. 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 4: Yesterday morning, we heard that a helicopter carrying Iran's president 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 4: and foreign minister had crashed. 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: By the middle of the day our time. 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 4: The wreckage of the helicopter had been found, with state 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 4: media confirming that there were no survivors from the crash. 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: Breaking news out of Iran or state media has now 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 2: confirmed the death of President Ibrahim Raisi and the country's 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: foreign minister after a deadly helicopter crash. 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 4: Iran state media has confirmed the deaths of Presidents Abrahim 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 4: Raisi and his foreign minister in the helicopter crash. In 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: today's Deep Dive, we're going to discuss what we know 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 4: so far about the helicopter crash, the leaders who were 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 4: on the helice, and what exactly happens next in Iran. 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 4: Before we get there, though, Sam, what's making headlines. 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: University of Melbourne student protesters have been urged to vacate 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: a pro Palestinian encampment or risk expulsion. The university has 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: also threatened to get Victoria police involved if students do 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: not cooperate with its demands. Students at the encampment in 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: the university's Arts West building received a notice from the 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: University of Melbourne to vacate the area last week. The 27 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: university has threatened students with not being allowed to re enroll, 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: attend classes, city exams, and access university facilities. 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: Australian authorities say they've been unable to send flights to 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: evacuate citizens from New Caledonia, where a state of emergency 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 4: has been declared. Violent protests broke out after changes to 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: local voting rules in the French territory were proposed. P 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 4: M Anthony Albernezi called the situation deeply concerning and that 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: the situation on the ground was preventing flights from coming 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: and going. The Prime Minister said he's working with French 36 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: authorities to send evacuation flights to the region. 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Australian Federal police have charged a man who allegedly tried 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: to open a plane door mid flight. Flight attendants were 39 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: able to restrain the Canadian man after he tried to 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: open the emergency exit door two hours into an international service. 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: He's facing up to five thousand dollars in fines and 42 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: could be sentenced to jail time. 43 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: And today's good news, a ninety year old man has 44 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 4: flown to space, sixty years after he became the first 45 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 4: black person to be trained as an astronaut in the US. 46 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 4: Ed Dwight made history in nineteen sixty one after being 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 4: selected for training by then US President JFK, but he 48 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 4: never had the opportunity to go to space. In twenty 49 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 4: twenty four, he finally made it with a private mission 50 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: of six people. 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Zara, this is a really big story. There's going 52 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: to be far reaching implications. It's pretty hard to tell 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: exactly what the implications are going to be right now. 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: So why don't we start with what exactly we do know, 55 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: which is what happened. It's obviously changing hour by hour, 56 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: But keeping all of that in mind, tell me what 57 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: we know about this helicopter crash. 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 4: Okay, so Iranian President Ibrahim Raisi and Foreign Minister Hassein 59 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 4: Amir Abda Lakhyan were traveling from neighboring Azerbaijan after the 60 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 4: opening ceremony of a new dam on both of the 61 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: country's borders. Now, state media reports differ on where exactly 62 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: the helicopter did go down, but the majority of reports 63 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: suggests that it went down on the slope of a 64 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 4: steep mountain peak near the city of Varsigan. So when 65 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: we woke up on Monday morning in Australia, we knew 66 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: that the helicopter had crashed, but there was no information 67 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: on what had happened to the passengers that were on board. 68 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: The crash triggered an immediate search and rescue effort, and 69 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: there were multiple countries who were involved in this rescue effort. 70 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: We know for sure that Russia and Turkey both were 71 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 4: and they were offering resources and personnel to help locate 72 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: the missing helicopter. We know that it was especially difficult 73 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: for these rescue missions because of heavy fog, and also, 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: as I said, we believe that the helicopter went down 75 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: on a mountain range, so that kind of mountainous terrain 76 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 4: made it incredibly difficult. 77 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: You can even tell from the photographs how dense that fogg. 78 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, So for over twelve hours, rescue teams couldn't 79 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: find anything at all, any trace. 80 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: Of this helicopter or the people who were on it. 81 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 4: Then on Monday afternoon, our time, Turkish drones showed heat 82 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 4: maps believed to be the wreckage of the missing helicopter. 83 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 4: It was then that the rescue teams alerted Iranian state 84 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 4: media to the discovery. 85 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: At that point, the head of Iran's Red Crescent. 86 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: Society, who was at the site of the crash, said 87 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: to State TV that quote, the situation was very bad. 88 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: And the news was not good. 89 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 4: Within hours, Iranian authorities had confirmed that both Rayisi and 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: Amer Abda Lahian were dead. 91 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: He walk me through that timeline. It strikes me just 92 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: how remarkable it is that there's this twelve hour window 93 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: where they. 94 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 3: Could It was a really long time. 95 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: I mean from when we woke up, we already knew 96 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 4: it had been missing for hours, and it then took 97 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: almost half a day then. 98 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: But these are two of the most high profile political 99 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: figures in the whole country. The fact that they were 100 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: lost for twelve hours after their helicopter crashed is remarkable 101 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: and not unsurprisingly, this has been leading the news across 102 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: the world for the last twenty four hours. So for 103 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: people not familiar with Iran's leadership system, can you give 104 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: me a sense of who exactly the two men who 105 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: died in the crash were Yeah. 106 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: So let me quickly get into how Iran's system of 107 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: governance works. So, Iran is ruled by what's called a 108 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 4: supreme leader. That is Ayatola ale Khomeni. He's eighty five 109 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: years old and he's been in power since nineteen eighty nine. Now, 110 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 4: the Ayatola has oversight over most aspects of Iranian life 111 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 4: and decision making. There's not really a comparison that I 112 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 4: can think of in Western nations, but he is this 113 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 4: kind of all bearing supreme leader. 114 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: The buck stops with him. 115 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 4: But second to the Ayatollah is the president, who is 116 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 4: the top elected official in Iran. Now, a president in 117 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: Iran is like a president elsewhere, responsible for day to 118 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 4: day government operations and for appointing ministers. So onto this 119 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 4: specific president, as I said, his name was Ibrahim Raisi. 120 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: He was elected as the president of Iran in twenty 121 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: twenty one. Before his presidency, he was the head of 122 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: Iran's court system, so he was the highest legal authority 123 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 4: in the country's judiciary. Now, in terms of taking a 124 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: bird's eye view of him, human rights scripts have linked 125 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: him to wide scale killings of the regime's opponents. And 126 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 4: to give you a sense of his background following the 127 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 4: Iran Iraq War in the eighties race he was on 128 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 4: a sentencing panel that ordered the executions of as many 129 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: as five thousand political prison That was according to Amnesty International. Interestingly, 130 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 4: President Rasi was recently made a member of the council to. 131 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: Decide who will succeed the Ayatola in his death. 132 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: As I said, he's in his late eighties and he 133 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: I'm referring there to Raisi was considered a pretty strong candidate. 134 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: So that is President Raysi and the other person who 135 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: we know was on board the plane was Iran's foreign minister, 136 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: saying Amir Abdallahian now. 137 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: Spoken about him on the podcast, right. 138 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 139 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: We would have mentioned his name a bit over the 140 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 4: last few months because he's been quoted in the context 141 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 4: of these escalating tensions between Israel and Iran, and we'll 142 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: get to that in a bit. But he has been 143 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: the country's foreign minister since twenty twenty one, so again, 144 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 4: a really really significant figure in Iran's political system. 145 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: So I have two major leaders of any country died 146 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: in a single accident, there would be some serious questions 147 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: around you know, what happens next to the political systems 148 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: in that country, let alone a country like Iran who 149 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: is in the middle of some very serious global tensions. 150 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: What will happen next here? 151 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: I mean on a kind of very logistical level, the 152 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: vice president, Mohammed Makhba is expected to take over from 153 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: Raci as interim president, and then Iran's constitution requires a 154 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 4: presidential election to be held within fifty days. So before 155 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: the men were confirmed dead, the Ayatola said that the 156 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 4: administration of the country will not be disrupted. But as 157 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: you said, this is a really complex time in Iran's history. 158 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 4: There's kind of these dual complexities, so thinking internationally, as 159 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: I said earlier, this incident has come in the context 160 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: of huge unrest in the Middle East, with Iran playing 161 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: a fairly major role in the conflict between Israel and Kamas. 162 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: We've seen Iran and Israel directly strike one another for 163 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: the first time in history. We've never seen tensions escalate 164 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: that dramatically before. And then we've also got Iran supporting proxies, 165 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 4: so again that's financially supporting equipping other groups in other 166 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 4: countries on their behalf. So Iran is very involved in 167 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: this war. And again Amid these kind of rising tensions. 168 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: This is a very complex time for Iran in the 169 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 4: kind of geopolitical context of the Middle East. 170 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: And I think that regional significance really gives us a 171 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: sense of why everyone around the world from a government 172 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: point of view, was really invested in what happens here. 173 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: But then there's a whole nother narrative around the people 174 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: of Iran, right. 175 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean this is always the way that 176 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 4: there is obviously a kind of foreign reality and then 177 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 4: a domestic reality. And internally there has been great unrest 178 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: in Iran too. There have been ongoing protests against Iran's 179 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: religious leadership that's been mostly led by young women in 180 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: the wake of the twenty twenty two death of Masar Amini. 181 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: And I believe we've probably spoken about this before, but 182 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: these protests erupted in Iran after Amini died following her 183 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 4: arrest by the Regimes Morality Police, and they're the people 184 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: who enforce these strict cultural laws, including a law requiring 185 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: women to cover their hair. 186 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: Protesters have used the. 187 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 4: Slogan woman Life Freedom, and these protesters were demanding an 188 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: end to the restrictive laws and they wanted to overthrow 189 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: the government, and while the intensity of those protests has 190 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 4: died down a bit, the message still remains clear that 191 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 4: there is great civil unrest and that there is this 192 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: kind of movement being led by young women domestically in 193 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 4: Iran against the country's religious leadership. Now, according to AP, 194 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 4: the security crackdown that's followed those protests has resulted in 195 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 4: more than five hundred people being killed and twenty two 196 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 4: thousand people being detained. And so it's amid that context 197 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: that we saw in the hours after news first broke 198 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 4: of the helicopter crash, this footage on social media that 199 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,479 Speaker 4: showed some Iranian people taking to the streets to celebrate. 200 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 4: I mean, at that point they didn't know what had happened, 201 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 4: but there were these really significant celebrations, people filming themselves 202 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 4: out on the streets or in their home celebrating what 203 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 4: they believe to be the death of fairly significant leaders 204 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 4: in Iran. I should add, though, that absolutely wasn't everyone, 205 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: and there were some Iranians who followed the Ayatolla's commands 206 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 4: to pray for the president, and so we saw people 207 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 4: gathering at mosques there to carry out that prayer. 208 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have a very complex global and domestic situation. 209 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: That domestic situation is really interesting. There's also a whole 210 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: nother economic angle to all of this. I mean, Iran 211 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: has been the center of sanctions for a while now 212 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: from a lot of the countries in the West, and 213 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: those countries will be looking to see what the succession 214 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: of power looks like in reevaluating that relationship or keeping 215 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: it the same. What we do know is that we 216 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: still have a lot of questions around what happens next 217 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: and what exactly has happened here. Will bring everybody an 218 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: update on this story when we learn a little bit more. 219 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: For now, though, that gives us a sense of where 220 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: things stand. 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