1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: We know that this Sunday is International Means Day and 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: a forum is happening in Darwen on Friday. It's going 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: to bring together about two hundred and fifty Northern Territory 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: blokes of all ages for a series of discussions that 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: will span across leadership in sport, family values and opportunities 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: for youth. The attendees are going to hear from representatives 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: from a number of inspirational speakers, including a former Olympian, 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Guy Newman, and the twenty twenty three NT Young Australian 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: of the Year as well. But joining us on the 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: line to tell us a little bit more about the 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: event is the MC for the event, Nathan Pale. Good 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: morning to you. 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: Morning Katie, longtime listener, first time Hell good mate. 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: I love it and you and I have actually m 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: seed an event together before, so I'm excited to hear 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: that you are going to be m seeing this one. Yeah. 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: No, it's something I've done the last couple of years 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: and it's certainly one of the gigs that I'm not 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: going to miss because I get to go along and 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 2: get to hear some of the speakers and it's just 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: such a great day. But looking forward to it. 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: It is a phenomenal day. I went a couple of 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: years ago and spoke a couple of years ago, and honestly, 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: some of the speakers are just fantastic. 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: To put it bluntly, Yeah, it's a there's a real mix, 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: and every year there's a real mix. And sort of 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: when you went there, you would have gone, I'm not 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: really that interested in hearing this person because it doesn't 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: resonate with me, And then you just pick up so 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: many things listening to them talk, You're like, wow, that 31 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: was amazing. So it's just such a surprising day with 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: some really cool tools you get to take out of 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: it as well. 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: Now, what is the key theme for this year? 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: It's just about well, I don't know what the key 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: theme is. I haven't looked it up. You put me 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: on the spot about blood, what back in the team 38 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: we're trying to achieve. It's just getting a whole heap 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: of really dynamic people together that have been through some 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: challenges in life and hearing about how they rose above 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: those challenges and the things they put in place. 42 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: Now, tell me, what are some of the topics that 43 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: are going to be discussed by the key speakers? I 44 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: know that Beck who organizes it, always puts like she 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: puts a lot of effort into to getting a real 46 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: diverse range of speakers. 47 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. 48 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So we've got two. 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: We've got a senior Australian of the Year, Tom Carmer, 50 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: who's up talking about growing up in the NT inspiring 51 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: leadership and he does quite a fair bit of work 52 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: in the diversity space and he's quite a champion for that. 53 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: We've got Nick Bell who's an emergency response expert and 54 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: he'll be talking about going into those emergency situations, critical 55 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: thinking and just the leadership in those situations. One that 56 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to, and I'm a bit biased, is 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: Quick Chris with Rod from our Marrion Smish. They're the 58 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: team or the husband and wife that their daughter to Lula, 59 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: was diagnosed with SPG and basically the big company said, 60 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: there's no money in us. There's there's a cure for it, 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: but there's no money in us finding it. So like 62 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: Territory Legends that just went out and started raising the 63 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: money themselves and putting their own team in place, and 64 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: they're actually very close to finding a cure for I've 65 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 2: been doing that for a couple of years jade Vigne, 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: last year's Well this year's Young Australian of the Year. 67 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: He has his absolute and dynamic at tawe Man and 68 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: every time he speaks, I sort of look at my 69 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: own life and go, what am I doing with my life? 70 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: If he can achieve that? What else we got Goy Newman, 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: as you said, O limpdan and motivational speaker, which is great. 72 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: We've got men's panels just down to earth people just 73 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: talking about the challenges they faced. 74 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: There is a bit of a Q and A in 75 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: there as well, wake out sessions. 76 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: So you get to choose whatever you want there. And 77 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: I've got the youngest stand up comedian performing who is 78 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: also my son, a ten year old Thomas Pouse. He's 79 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: going to get up and I'm just hoping he doesn't 80 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: do crawd work and go rogue like he's done all. 81 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: The other times. 82 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: But he's going to be such a fantastic day and 83 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: you end up feeling so energized. 84 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: At the end of it. 85 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: Oh, that is so good that your young fella's doing 86 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: that ten years old. That takes some serious confidence. 87 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: Look, I asked him if he gets nervous about this stuff, 88 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: and he goes, I'm a kid, I'm ten years old 89 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: and I'm just having a go. If they don't want 90 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: to laugh at me, it's not my problem, it's their problem. 91 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: They're horrible people, and I'm like, if only I could 92 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 2: sort of inject some of that confidence into my own life. 93 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: He just doesn't get nervous. 94 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm probably more nervous because he starts doing crawd work 95 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: and he's done a couple of Amy Heatherington shows and 96 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: he does go rogue and it gets very scary when 97 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: you're a father or the headline comedian waiting to go 98 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: on afterwards. 99 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what he's going to do. I love that. 100 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: That is fantastic, and you know, yeah, I just think 101 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: it's really great to see a kid back themselves and 102 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: be prepared to have a crack. 103 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he certainly backs himself, that's for sure. So no, 104 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: I love it. 105 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: Now, tell me what do you hope that blokes will 106 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: take out of the event. 107 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: Probably the same stuff that I had. Like, you go 108 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: to these forums and you're sort of assumed they're going 109 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: to be talking about mental health and they're going to 110 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: be quite heavy days and they can be, and they 111 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: certainly have been historically back in the team have sort 112 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: of made something that is more about promoting men speaking 113 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: more with each other and certainly more with their partners 114 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: or other people, just just just being more open. But 115 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: it's also about sharing experiences as you think you're going 116 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 2: through yourself, and when you hear dynamic people up there 117 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: talking about what they've achieved and they're coming up against 118 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: the same hurdles that you're seeing in your life, you 119 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: just go, Wow, we do need to talk more because 120 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: everyone thinks if you don't communicate everyone things that they're 121 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: going through stuff Alione and everyone's going through something and 122 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: it's just so good to hear these people get up 123 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: and talking about the things that they've faced but also 124 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: how they've overcome it, and it's just so energizing. 125 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: You sort of walk out. 126 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: Of the day and you just want to go take 127 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: on the world. So that's what I want people to 128 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: get out of it. Certainly what I've got out of 129 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: it and everyone else has got out of it. 130 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: Has been there. 131 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: How wonderful I reckon. Yeah, Look, I just think it's 132 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: such an important thing to do, and you know, hats 133 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: off to Beacon her team that organize it and to yourself, 134 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, for what you do to make it happen? Mate, 135 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: Why did you decide to get involved and why is 136 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: it something that's so important for you. 137 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: Look, being a police officer in the past, I'm not anymore, 138 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: but I known mental health strugg and pretty much kept 139 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: them to myself and did the right things where and 140 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: got help and both to people. 141 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: But the older I get now. 142 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: The more I'm learning about it. If I have communicated 143 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: that better, and there's certainly things I could have done 144 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: better in the past, and I'm finding out that just 145 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: so many men are going through that. So being a 146 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: part of things like this and being quite open about 147 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: it and just saying yeah, look, that. 148 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: Happens at times. 149 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: But if it goes past this point, I get some help. 150 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: Because we all have. Everyone's embarrassed about going to the 151 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: doctor or to see a psychologist or some people, I 152 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: should say, So it's just about saying, yeah, look, it's 153 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: just the same as down to the gin. It's going 154 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: to look after yourself. So that's why I got involved 155 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: in it. 156 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: But after the first time being involved in it and 157 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: just seeing how amazing and hearing those really positive and 158 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: smiling stories, and you're getting to chat to these presenters. 159 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: At the end of it, you're getting to ask them 160 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: questions during their presentation. It's just an experience where you 161 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: can sort of latch on things that you're processing and 162 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: ask professionals or ask people have been through something similar 163 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: the questions, and it's just such a good sharing environment. 164 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: And even if you're not comfortable asking questions, a lot 165 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: of people ask questions and you end up getting answers 166 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: to stuff that you don't feel comfortable asking. So I 167 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: just I just love the positivity of it. I love 168 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: how it's just creating a really a better mindset of 169 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: how we communicate. I think I think men are getting 170 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: much better at communicating. 171 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: And if you have a look at the kids. 172 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: Coming through now, they straight ahead of us. But yet 173 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: there's always improvements to be made, and I think it's 174 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: cool a doing it now. 175 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: Tell me, can people still get tickets at this point? 176 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: They can still get tickets If you go on the 177 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: no One Left Behind website or even just on Facebook 178 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: just chucking no one left behind, there's still some tickets left. 179 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: You might be able to get it able for your business. 180 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: So it is such an amazing day. I haven't spoken 181 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: to anyone who's walked out of that guy yet. 182 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: That was just what I thought it was. 183 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: Everyone sort of walked out of it going wow. 184 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting. I wasn't expecting that. It's not just 185 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: for men. 186 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: We're getting a really good mix of everybody coming in 187 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: and there's something out for everyone, like everyone needs tools 188 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: to deal with stuff better or listen to people, and 189 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: there's just an amazing story. So not just for men, 190 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: we're getting pizza willing come along as well. So yeah, 191 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: have a look at it, and yeah, get ready for 192 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:37,239 Speaker 2: the experience. 193 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: I guess it'll be wonderful. It always is. Nathan Powell, 194 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: the event MC and just all around good bloke. Thank 195 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us this morning, and all 196 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: the very best on Friday. 197 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie. 198 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Hope your son doesn't go wrong. I hope. Oh if 199 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: he does, just embrace it. Let him enjoy himself up 200 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: there a stage. 201 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: It'll be fun. 202 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: Good on you, Nathan. Thank you so much for having 203 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: a chat with me this morning. 204 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: Awesome. 205 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: Thank you,