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Speaker 1: Joining me on the line is the Greens member for Nightcliff,

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Speaker 1: Kat McNamara. Good morning, Catnic Katie Cat. What is going

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Speaker 1: on in Nightcliff at the moment.

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Speaker 2: I know, Look, it's been a really really tough time,

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Speaker 2: and I mean, look, it's a tough time every heere,

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Speaker 2: but obviously with everything that's happened to the Fiak family

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Speaker 2: just kind of reverberated out the distressed and trauma. What

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Speaker 2: happened at the grocer. Look, it's been awful and people

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Speaker 2: are really very very they're hurting at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll hurting absolutely. And then I mean what happened

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Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon with this situation where you've got a fifteen

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Speaker 1: year old which is who is allegedly armed with a

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Speaker 1: metal bar and smashing cars as they're driving past at

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Speaker 1: two o'clock in the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I had someone call it and tell me

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Speaker 2: about that. I haven't been able to get on to

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Speaker 2: the police. I'm not sure what the police response was there,

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Speaker 2: but look, I know we are having Look, it's a

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Speaker 2: daily well I don't know daily thing across the territory

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Speaker 2: in all kinds of areas, but I know that we

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Speaker 2: are struggling with this, but it's something that you know,

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Speaker 2: Look since I obviously before I got in, before I

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Speaker 2: got elected, I knew talking to the community. And look

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Speaker 2: I live in the community too, so I absolutely know

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Speaker 2: you know, the concerns and issues around anti social behavior

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Speaker 2: or criminal criminal activities. It's a big deal. And so

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Speaker 2: I mean it's something that I work on, I would

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Speaker 2: say every day in the electorate. I mean, we've got

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Speaker 2: people I'm very open with having my door open to

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Speaker 2: anyone wants to come visit me. So I you know,

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Speaker 2: anyone who wants to get appointment with me can, I'll

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Speaker 2: always make time. And so myself and my electorate office

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Speaker 2: staff work really hard with a lot of local constituents,

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Speaker 2: doing particularly a lot of one on one stuff with

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Speaker 2: you know, people who've experienced crime or been a victim

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Speaker 2: of crime. But I also been working really closely with

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Speaker 2: particularly a lot of the local housing providers. We know

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Speaker 2: we've got a lot of public housing, so with Mission Australia,

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Speaker 2: Venture Housing and also Saint Vincent, the pall Sat Vinish

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Speaker 2: sort of getting to understand the issues and what we

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Speaker 2: and olive. You.

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Speaker 1: Well, something's got to happen. I'm not sure if you're aware,

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Speaker 1: but there's also there was a woman found unconscious in

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Speaker 1: yesterday evening, So the police calling for information after a

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Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon. We also there was four women who were

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Speaker 1: indecently touched along the foreshore while they're out exercising over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. And then we know in

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Speaker 1: that situation it's a person under the age of fifteen

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Speaker 1: has now has now been charged in relation to those

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Speaker 2: It's horrific. I'm really really upset for the victims and

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Speaker 2: for the people that have had to experience this stuff

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Speaker 2: because it's just obviously we all know it's absolutely not

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Speaker 2: they deserve to go out live their lives, walk along

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people are furious. I've got to tell you, our

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Speaker 1: text line is going off this morning. I've got one

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Speaker 1: here from jan It says Katie. Crime is out of control.

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Speaker 1: While the rhetoric is always it's not acceptable. Clearly it

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Speaker 1: is because it's continuing. Somebody else had said Katie, with

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Speaker 1: all that's going on in Nightcliff, where's the local member?

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Speaker 1: Another on the issue of Nightcliff and Rapid Creek. It

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Speaker 1: started after Vinnie's opened with the food on dick Ward Drive.

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Speaker 1: Go past the Litchfield apartment. You can see the number

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Speaker 1: of windows that are boarded up, the rubbish everywhere. Somebody

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Speaker 1: else saying Katie, the missus is super keen to go

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Speaker 2: And Look, I can assure people that I mean that

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Speaker 2: If people also want to, I do have been updating

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Speaker 2: like big policy decisions that can happen to things that

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Speaker 2: police resourcing, but we all have a piece to play

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Speaker 2: making some positive change. And so from that meeting, Laroche

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Speaker 2: And I know after that trial I'll be getting some

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Speaker 2: more feedback from the shop owners about how they feel

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Speaker 2: if that's helped. We're also working on a plan to

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Speaker 2: a lot of the young the shop owners have requested,

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Speaker 2: but that's what they want to that area. So look,

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Speaker 2: there are options.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is it time to push for some of that

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Speaker 1: high density public housing social housing that's in Nightcliff to change.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm very cautious of painting people who

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Speaker 2: mean I've worked with people in public housing definitely every week,

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Speaker 1: What about when visitors arrive though, and aren't doing the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's that's definitely some of the

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Speaker 2: suffering from that. And look, that's something that I think

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Speaker 2: Lara Kia Nation does good work with. And I know

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Speaker 2: there's a return to Country program that runs out of

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Speaker 2: I think it's in Casarina. But there are also things

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Speaker 2: if you can't fill it with police, and I understand

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Speaker 2: a reply that the police station extended hours capacity be increased.

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Speaker 2: But there are other things we can do. Right the

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Speaker 2: building is already there, it's already built. Can we pop

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Speaker 1: What about Saint Vinnie's. I mean, do you believe that

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Speaker 1: there's been an increase in issues as a result of

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Speaker 1: Saint Vinnie's moving closer to that area? And I'm in

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Speaker 1: no way you know, Saint Vinnie's, I know, do an

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Speaker 1: incredible job, but unfortunately it is a situation where it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it is a service that people are then

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Speaker 1: it seems as though Nightcliff has got a large number

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Speaker 1: you know, from everything that we've read out, people are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I've been also in a lot of communication

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Speaker 2: with Hinni's. I've gone there and gone in the morning

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Speaker 2: I think from what I'm hearing from them, because I

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Speaker 2: you know, I can't account for every person that goes

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Speaker 2: are not at all. But look, Vinny's do they have

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Speaker 2: a plan for more appropriate accommodation that that's not there?

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Speaker 2: We know where I think it's the DCA approval runs

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Speaker 1: Got a message to a listener. High Katie, could you

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Speaker 1: please mention what happened in Nightcliff and what continues to

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Speaker 1: to be action? When is the government going to act?

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Speaker 1: When will the police act? Is it when an innocent

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Speaker 1: bracelets causing trouble. Why aren't these surveillance cameras being monitored

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Speaker 1: there are so many of them around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've also asked a question of that to the

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Speaker 2: police minister about those security cameras, because I'm obviously speaking

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Speaker 2: to the local businesses around my office in particular quite frequently,

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Speaker 2: I also have to call the same phone numbers that

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Speaker 2: And I had the police reinforced to me into others

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Speaker 2: incidents like that, please always call the police.

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Speaker 1: Kay. Look, I don't want to make this a personal thing.

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Speaker 1: I know some people are messaging through saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, someone saying this is what happens when you

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Speaker 2: Well, I think there's an element there if people are

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Speaker 1: Well. Cat macdamara, the Green's member for Nightcliff, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time this morning, Thank you for calling in to

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Speaker 1: come on the show. Appreciate it. And look, please let

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Speaker 1: us know if there is an update on the private

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Speaker 1: security that you guys like that obviously you're pushing for,

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Speaker 1: or anything else. I know the people a Nightcliff are

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Speaker 2: No, I know, Katie, I know, and I just want

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Speaker 2: to assure everyone and once again you can get in

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Speaker 2: contact with my office, come by or shoot us an email.

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Speaker 2: And I really I'm feeling the pain in the community

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Speaker 2: and I'm looking to how we can turn things around.

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Speaker 1: Cap Mac Damara, thank you, thanks for your time today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Katie, thank you, Nick,