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Speaker 1: three six zero now. The government last month announced this

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Speaker 2: Leah, Good morning Kadian to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Nowaliah, first off, should this curfew be extended? We know

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Speaker 2: What do you think should happen.

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Speaker 8: Well, our position is very clear. We think the curfew

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Speaker 1: Look, I think that's fair enough. I think that actually

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Speaker 2: Shop one under?

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Speaker 8: So we have been calling on the government not I mean,

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Speaker 8: this goes back weeks Katie, where we said government talked

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Speaker 1: Look, we are expecting over the coming days that police

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Speaker 8: Labor have clearly been making announcements trying to get permit

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Speaker 1: I wonder whether it's more a matter that that review

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Speaker 2: We'll find out. We'll find out, will he does.

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Speaker 8: We're actually getting a briefing this afternoon, Katy, So yesterday

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Speaker 8: Government's announcements are very unclear. No one knows how tangible

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Speaker 2: They've got to lay in it.

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Speaker 1: Look, I do want to ask a couple of other

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Speaker 2: Yesterday we spoke to a.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt, And I just it's funny. It was

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Speaker 8: But I literally just wrote yet another letter to Joel

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Speaker 1: What do you reckon needs to happen? Do you think

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Speaker 8: We actually have a very exciting announcement in this space

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Speaker 8: We cannot have a growing population, a strong business community,

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Speaker 1: Look, there does continue to be issues within the health

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Speaker 8: is a downward spiral and if it doesn't get fixed soon,

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Speaker 8: who knows where we're going to end up?

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Speaker 2: Katie.

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Speaker 1: Well, one of the other questions that a listener has

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Speaker 1: just asked, as well as how much is it then

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Speaker 1: costing for us to have patients transported by care flight? Look,

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Speaker 1: I do think that that's a question that again is

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Speaker 1: well worth asking.

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Speaker 8: It's not just the care flight though, when you have

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Speaker 8: a pre term baby. My babies were early but not

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Speaker 8: under thirty two weeks, but they spend a lot of

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Speaker 8: time in hospital. So if you have a baby born

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Speaker 8: under thirty two weeks, you could be in hospital for

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Speaker 8: weeks or months caring for that child. So you then

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Speaker 8: have a mother with no support or perhaps one support

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Speaker 8: every day. It's a very difficult situation and so cost

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Speaker 8: is one thing, but also that dislocation at a very

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Speaker 8: scary time in your life is it's horrible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, Leah fan okiiro the opposition leader, always appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: We may talk again later in the week based on

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Speaker 1: what comes out of this. Police reviewer steps out. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: Care everyone.

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