1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily os. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: Oh, now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: the Daily Oz. It's Friday, the seventh of November. I'm 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Billy fitz. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Simon's I'm Samowski. 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: You might have seen a man named Zorn Mumdani all 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: over your social media feeds recently. As of this week, 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: he is the new mayor of New York City. Now 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: as an Australian publication and podcast, it is rare that 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: we would cover such a local election in a country 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: on the other side of the world, but the campaign 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: run by Zorn mum Dani has captured the world's attention. 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: On today's podcast, well explain everything you need to know 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: about why everyone is talking about the new New York 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: City mayor. 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Now, Billy, I actually want to tell you how I 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: discovered Mamdani. I didn't try to find him out of 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: personally in a civil society. I stumbled across him in 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: the very early days of his campaign on a graphic 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: design and politics blog that I read, and the blog 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: was talking about how incredible his branding was and the 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: vibrant blue and orange branding that he used. Fast forward, 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: probably a year, he's now the new mayor, And you're right, 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: we wouldn't normally cover a local election in the US. 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: Why do you think it is that people outside of 26 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: New York have been so invested in this race? Besides 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: the branding? 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: I love it. You're like one of those people who 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: discovers an indie artist and then they've become really big, 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: and then you claim forever that you found them first. 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: When in fact I only discovered them because I liked 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: their album cover, but actually the songs they made. 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. So there are two main reasons why I 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: think this really has captured the world's attention. The first 35 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: is that New York is obviously a global city. It 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: is one of the most famous cities in the world. 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: It is the biggest city in the US, which is 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: of course one of the most influential countries in the world. 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: So being mayor of New York is a huge position, 40 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: and that role being quite high profile is nothing new. 41 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: There have been many high profile mayors of New York before. 42 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 2: There's Rudy Giuliani, for example, and also Michael Bloomberg. They 43 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: have both been previous mayors of New York City, and 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 2: the current President of the United States, Donald Trump was 45 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: also a high profile New Yorker before his entry into politics, 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: so this is his hometown. But the other reason is 47 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: I think Mumdani himself is a huge reason why people 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: have been so invested in this with the way that 49 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: he has been able to capture and inspire young people 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: and other people who maybe traditionally wouldn't be inclined to 51 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: go to the elections in the US vote also remembering 52 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: that in the US voting isn't compulsory like it is 53 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: here in Australia. And everyone knows that after Trump won 54 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: the election last year exactly one year ago actually this week, 55 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: the Democrats who had such a seismic loss at that election, 56 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: they have been in a real soul searching era to 57 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: figure out how to get votes in this era of 58 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: Trump politics. And I think left leaning progressive people and 59 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: politicians are seeing mum Dani's approach to politics as a 60 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: possible blueprint for getting ahead in the political era of Trump. 61 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just on the democratic side of global 62 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: politics really that people were paying attention. It was also 63 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: on the right wing. 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think for those on the other side of politics, 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: they have paid close attention to mum Dani's campaign because 66 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: he represents a very different left wing opponent than the 67 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: traditional Democratic front runners, and he's more aligned with hardline 68 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: left wing views like those of Bernie sand and also 69 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: Alexandria Kazia Cortez. I don't know if you remember her, 70 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: but she's also a very high profile Democrat who is 71 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: much further to the left than the traditional Democrat. And 72 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: so I think for the Republicans this election was really 73 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: important because A they got to see how Mumdani would 74 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: be received by the voting public, as it turns out 75 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: quite well. But b it allows them to categorize their 76 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: opponents on the left as progressively becoming more extreme in 77 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: their views, which I think is something that they want 78 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: to do. 79 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: Sure, so it's kind of being used by the Republicans 80 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: as this is the way that things are going and 81 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: that's why you should stay with us. Yes, that is 82 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: a pretty standard political response. But I want to go 83 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: back and focus on Mamdani himself. Give me a sense 84 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: of who this man is. 85 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you a quick bio. So Mumdani was 86 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: born in Uganda to Indian parents. He is thirty four 87 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: years old. He was previously a member of New York 88 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: State's lower House, and before he entered politics, he was 89 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: a housing counselor, and he also had a short stint. 90 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: As a rapper very Brooklyn, very New Yes. 91 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 2: Now, he identifies politically as a democratic socialist, which means 92 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 2: that he believes in establishing socialist policies through traditional political systems. 93 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: So essentially, he believes in taxing the wealthy more and 94 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: then using that tax money to redistribute some of the 95 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 2: wealth to lower socioeconomic classes. You will hear some of 96 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: his opponents say that he is a communist, but that 97 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: is not how he himself identifies. He says that he 98 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: is a democratic socialist. 99 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: One of the interesting ways I heard democratic socialism and 100 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: communism separated through his campaign is that democratic socialists have 101 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: the same ideas as communists. Communists want to dismantle the system, 102 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: and democratic socialists want to use the system to achieve 103 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: those ideas. I thought that was a pretty easy way 104 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: to understand something that takes like, you know, yes, tens 105 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: of decades to try and figure out. But I know 106 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: that's oversimplifying, but it gives you a sense of like 107 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: he wants to play in the game. 108 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: Yes, the only other thing I would add is that 109 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: communism would be further to it would be more extreme 110 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: than socialism. 111 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: Well, it's not about believing in the systems that are there. Yes, yeah. 112 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: Now, in this election, he was the Democratic Party's nominee 113 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: and he campaigned on cost of living relief. Now, if 114 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: you know anything about New York, you probably know that 115 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: it is one of the most expensive cities in the 116 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: world to live in, So that was a big focus 117 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: of his campaign. Things that he included in his campaign 118 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: was things like rent freezers, free public buses was a 119 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: big thing, and he also wants to significantly lower the 120 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: cost of childcare. Now, another thing that came up a 121 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: lot during the campaign was that mum Doney was also 122 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: open about his support for Palestine during the campaign. Now, 123 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: some Jewish groups did accuse him of Semitism, but he 124 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: consistently said that he believes Israel has a right to exist. 125 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: He did, however, refuse to say it should exist as 126 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: a Jewish state. 127 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: And the reason why that's important in context is that 128 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: New York has an extremely large Jewish population, one of 129 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: the biggest in the world. So in terms of getting 130 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: the votes you need, it is not surprising that it 131 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: came up as an issue. It comes up in most 132 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: New York elections, and social media was a huge reason 133 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: why he was so popular, right. 134 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, the way he used social media throughout his campaign, 135 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen anything like it. I 136 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: think it will now be seen as a bit of 137 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: a blueprint for how political candidates can use social media 138 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: really effectively as a vehicle to win their campaigns. His 139 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: Instagram currently has seven million followers, although since I started 140 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: writing this script the other day, it's actually gone up 141 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: by two million. So he is on a rocket ship 142 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: of social media fame at the moment. And his videos 143 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: regularly went viral, not just that, but also videos that 144 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: other people made of him. There were so many fan accounts, 145 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: there are so many trending sounds on TikTok. He really 146 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: used all areas of the Internet for his campaign. And 147 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: I think one of the most amazing things about this 148 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: part of his campaign, which is a fun fact that 149 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: you taught me, Sam, is that his social media and 150 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: graphics were all done by a two person design studio 151 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: in Brooklyn. 152 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: Isn't that incredible in terms of the power of viral 153 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: growth and the limited resources at least until the last 154 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: kind of two months of the campaign where he received 155 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: huge donations. Yes, the first ground roots part of that 156 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: campaign was two guys in the flat in Brooklyn. 157 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: Amazing. 158 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: And so why do you think his victory was historic? 159 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: Well, it marks several firsts. So he is the city's 160 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: first Muslim mayor, he is the city's first millennial mayor, 161 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: and he will be new youngest leader in more than 162 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: a century. He's also the first South Asian mayor of 163 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: New York. I also saw a headline just right before 164 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: we came into the studio from the New York Times 165 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: that said, he is New York's first bearded mayor since 166 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: nineteen thirteen. Remarkable, remarkable, many many first. Other reasons it 167 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: was historic was it was over really quick. So the 168 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: Associated Press declared Mamdani the winner of the race just 169 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: thirty five minutes after polls closed, which is just that 170 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: is crazy quick for an election. And lastly, another reason 171 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: why it was so historic was that more than two 172 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: million New Yorkers cast their ballots, which is nearly double 173 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 2: the number of people who voted for mayor four years ago, 174 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: and the most amount of votes in half a century. 175 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: And we know how important that turnout call to action. 176 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: Then the turnout to vote is in American elections because 177 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: it's not mandatories, he said earlier. So getting people to 178 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: actually go physically to a ballot box is, you know, 179 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: most of the reason why someone could win. I saw 180 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: his victory being described in the media as improbable and 181 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: a massive surprise. Why was it seen as that with 182 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: so much social media support, so much kind of visible 183 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: support that you've been talking about, why was it still 184 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: categorized as unlikely. 185 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: Well, at the start of this year, not many people 186 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: knew who Mumdani was. He was very unknown, not just 187 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: in New York but obviously internationally, although that doesn't make 188 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: that much of a difference in a local election, but 189 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: he was just very unknown. So at the start of 190 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: this year, Mumdani was polling at one percent, So Poles 191 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: predicted that he would receive one percent of the vote 192 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: in this election. Now, as we know, he actually received 193 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: more than fifty percent of the vote, and that's why 194 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: he has now won. And in order to win, he 195 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: needed to beat someone like Andrew Cuomo, who is the 196 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: former state governor of New York. So he has an 197 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: established reputation and people are familiar with him. Although that 198 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: can sometime be a bad thing, which is I think 199 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: what we saw with Andrew Cuomo in this case. You know, 200 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: he has been surrounded by many controversies throughout his time, 201 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: and that was used against him consistently, and so I 202 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: think mum Danni was really seen as this change candidate, 203 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: which is something that often comes up in elections. You know, 204 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: who's going to bring the most change to whatever region 205 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: we're talking about, And so sometimes being a high profile 206 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: person can work in your favor, sometimes it doesn't. But 207 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: you're right that people did see mum Danny's election as improbable. 208 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: And after his victory, I wanted to read out a 209 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: quote from high profile Democrat Bernie Sanders, who you mentioned before, 210 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: because he is much further to the left than the 211 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: traditional Democrat, and Bernie Sanders said that mumdani quote pulled 212 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: off one of the great political upsets in modern American history. 213 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: One of the turning points in the lead up to 214 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: the vote on Tuesday, I think was Donald Trump coming 215 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: out and endorsing his opponent Andrew Cuomo. Ma'm Danny talked 216 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: about that a lot, and interestingly, and similar to what 217 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: you were saying before, it almost worked against Cuomo because 218 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: of Trump's lack of popularity in New York. But tell 219 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: me about the relationship now between the current president of 220 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: the United States and the new mayor of New York. 221 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's not great. You can probably tell from how 222 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: I've described mum Danny's politics that they are quite different 223 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: to Trump's politics. Some would say that they are on 224 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 2: complete opposite sides of the political spectrum. Here is what 225 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: mum Doney said directly to Trump during his victory speech. 226 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: After all, if anyone can show a nation betrayed by 227 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: Donald Trump how to defeat him, it is the city 228 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: that gave rise to him. So, Donald Trump, since I 229 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: know you're watching, four words for you, turn the volume up. 230 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: In terms of what Trump has said about mum Dani, 231 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: he has been very critical of him throughout this entire campaign. 232 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: Like I said before, he is called mum Dani a 233 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: communist and he also threatened to cut off funding to 234 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: New York if mum Dani won. So I think essentially 235 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: not a great relationship at all. 236 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: And speaking of the president, a lot of people, especially 237 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: on socials, have now said that Mamdani should be the 238 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: president of the United States one day, And this is 239 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: the future of US politics. But that can't actually happen, right. 240 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: No, simply because of the US Constitution, it cannot happen. 241 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: So the US Constitution is very clear in saying that 242 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: the US President must be quote a natural born citizen. 243 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: And like I said before, mum Dani wasn't born in 244 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: the US, he was born in Uganda. 245 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: I think it's always really interesting when US, as an 246 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: Australian audience, do take such an interest in a city 247 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: election on the other side of the world. But it's 248 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: clear from talking through this with you of why and 249 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: what he represents to a lot of younger audiences, especially 250 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: around the world. He's got a huge job ahead of 251 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: him now though there are three hundred thousand employees that 252 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: fall under his remit now in the city of New York, 253 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: which is just a gigantic task for a thirty four 254 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: year old Billy. Thank you for joining us and explaining 255 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: that all to us today. Thank you and thank you 256 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: for joining us on the daily OS. What a big 257 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: week of news has been. 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