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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Ama Gillespie, editor of The Daily Oz, is here, P

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Speaker 2: didym P did.

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Speaker 1: He's in a lot of trouble. That's the understatement of

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Speaker 1: the century. P Diddy is in big, big, big trouble.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be like the Harvey Weinstein of the

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Speaker 3: music world or the Jeffrey Epstein of the music world.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I think he's going to be the Epstein

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Speaker 1: of the music world because he's going to bring down

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Speaker 1: some other celebrities with him. But first of all, let's

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Speaker 1: go through what are the charges against him. He's been

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Speaker 1: held in bail. He's being held in detention in New

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Speaker 1: York without bail on charges of sex trafficking, racketeering. They

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Speaker 1: basically are alleging that he had held all of these

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Speaker 1: what they're calling free coughs, but these sex parties where

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Speaker 1: he trafficked women and male sex workers into these situations

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Speaker 1: that they didn't consent to being in, held these hour

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Speaker 1: long events where people were drugged, coerced, physically and sexually abused,

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Speaker 1: that he filmed them, that there were lots of drugs involved,

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Speaker 1: and that he used his business empire to cover up

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Speaker 1: decades of abuse against women. To quote fulfill his sexual

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Speaker 1: desires and protect his reputation. It's really intense. These sex

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Speaker 1: rings go way far back and all of the forced labor, kidnapping, arson, bribery,

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Speaker 1: obstruction of justice.

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Speaker 3: It's got everything, and it's got a lot of allegedly

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Speaker 3: celebrity involvement, very famous people who were at the parties

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Speaker 3: who saw anew Yes.

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Speaker 1: So this is the kind of phase two of this

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Speaker 1: story that now that we know all of these charges

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Speaker 1: against did Hey, people are kind of looking back on

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Speaker 1: those decades and thinking, well, who was there? Who was

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Speaker 1: he close with? And some of his best friends are

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Speaker 1: people like jay Z, Justin Bieber, Usher, Beyonce.

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Speaker 3: But wasn't he also curating the young careers of young

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Speaker 3: Justin Bieber for example, Yes, and accusations allegedly that a

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Speaker 3: young Bieber was groomed.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So we haven't heard anything from Justin Bieber at

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Speaker 1: this point, but did He was instrumental and kind of

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Speaker 1: discovery of Bieber. So was Usher. And there are some

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Speaker 1: videos that are emerging of their friendship times that they

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Speaker 1: hung out when Beebe was quite young and talking about.

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Speaker 3: And there's p Diddy Sean Coombs saying, oh, we're going

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Speaker 3: to spend the next forty eight hours together. Isn't it

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Speaker 3: going to be great? It's a fifteen year old boy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a fifteen year old boy saying let's go

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Speaker 1: and get some girls with his much more senior mentor so.

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Speaker 1: Biber hasn't come and said anything, but there are these

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Speaker 1: kind of leaked letters or this memoir that's also come

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Speaker 1: out from Ditty's late former partner, kim Porter. She died

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, but there's this memoir that emerged on

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Speaker 1: Amazon the week before Ditty was arrested, and it's this

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Speaker 1: like Lost Letters of kim Porter. We don't know for

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Speaker 1: sure that she wrote it, but it's a number one

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Speaker 1: book at the moment.

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Speaker 2: And how did she die.

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Speaker 1: She died of pneumonia in twenty eighteen. She's got three

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Speaker 1: kids with Ditty. But this book kind of alleges that

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Speaker 1: she had this flash drive from Ditty's computers and that

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Speaker 1: she has evidence of footage of him brooming and using

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Speaker 1: younger boys. It sounds like a very dangerous, sticky situation. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: lots of he said, she said. We don't really know

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Speaker 1: all of the facts, but certainly the evidence that the

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Speaker 1: prosecution that the US Department of Justice says they have

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Speaker 1: is really really damning, and people are now asking, you know,

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Speaker 1: from those other celebrities, people like Husher, what were they

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Speaker 1: you know, what were they seeing? People that these glamorous

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Speaker 1: parties must have seen something.

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Speaker 2: Well, Ashton Kutcher, there's a YouTube video that's come up.

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Speaker 2: He did that, you know that hot ones show the

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Speaker 2: chicken wing thing may hot chicken wings and then asked

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Speaker 2: questions but he said, they're talking about p Didy's parties

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Speaker 2: and he said, oh, I can't, I can't talk about that,

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Speaker 2: or no, I can't talk about that, and he's sort

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Speaker 2: of making a joke. But as people are saying online

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Speaker 2: that hasn't aged.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, well he through these famous parties, that white

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Speaker 1: parties where everyone dressed Jalen and white Jalo. His ex

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Speaker 1: was at them. All these photos have come out and

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Speaker 1: they kind of looked at them a few years ago

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Speaker 1: and thought like, wow, these parties look so extravagant, but

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Speaker 1: now it seems more sinister. What begs and all this

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Speaker 1: kind and someone must have Surely you go to those parties,

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Speaker 1: you see enough things. Someone knows something isn't there.

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Speaker 2: Didn't they find a thousand bottles of lube.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So they raided two of Diddy's homes in March

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Speaker 1: and they found one thousand bottles of lube in evidence.

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Speaker 1: They confiscated a bunch of sex toys, computer hard drives, everything,

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Speaker 1: So that's when we first kind of got wind of

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Speaker 1: this six months ago. But it's not the first time

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Speaker 1: that did. He's been in legal trouble. He settled a

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Speaker 1: lawsuit last year with an ex partner who alleged physical

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Speaker 1: and sexual abuse. She was the one in that CCTV

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Speaker 1: footage being dragged around the hotel, so that was really distressing.

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Speaker 1: Usher has deleted his entire Twitter account, his every single

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Speaker 1: post on his Twitter, so his Twitter's still up, but

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Speaker 1: over the weekend his whole history got wiped, which I

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Speaker 1: don't know why. Yeah, everyone's going aground.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're saying also that he is on suicide watch

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Speaker 3: and people wondering will this be an Epstein situation?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's going to be. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think hopefully it's not going to be an ebstent situation

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Speaker 1: that he dies, but I do think that there will

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Speaker 1: be a lot to come in terms of who knew what.

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Speaker 1: But he's facing some serious charges. One of the charges

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Speaker 1: against him is a minimum ten year sentence, but the

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Speaker 1: maximum for three of the charges is twenty years on

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Speaker 1: each charge, So I don't think we'll be seeing him

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Speaker 1: a freeman for a while to come.

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Speaker 2: At least, maybe you're studying his own lubemobile franchise.

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Speaker 3: That's how he could have made it. Will come to you, unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, it will a much more ethical way to

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Speaker 1: make questions.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, take to see you