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Speaker 1: Job mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: From the podcast series at Muma Mia. The executive editor

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Speaker 2: of Mum and Mia, Claire Stevens, is with us.

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Speaker 1: Hello Claire, Hello, all right, I need to talk about

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Speaker 1: Married at First Sight last night, and I would love

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Speaker 1: you guys to weigh in, like you're boring. I know,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. We are not that far in

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Speaker 1: and we've already lost a lot of drama, which is

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Speaker 1: great because we're getting new couples. Good, We're getting a

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Speaker 1: new couples Christ and Yes, so that's so, that's very,

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Speaker 1: very good. But I want you guys to weigh in

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Speaker 1: as the experts, because you know what, I'm campaigning Jones

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Speaker 1: and Amanda replace the experts because I just think you're

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Speaker 1: more common sense. I think Job, I genuinely think you would.

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Speaker 1: So first, we have Holly who has turned up to

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Speaker 1: the commitment ceremony by herself.

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Speaker 3: She's the one who was with the Texan and he

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Speaker 3: has left the series.

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Speaker 2: He has right, and am I right in saying this.

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Speaker 2: They can't contact him in any way.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're like he's gone, and it doesn't he wants

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Speaker 1: to be part of the show anymore at all, which

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Speaker 1: I always find interesting because what happens with contracts and stuff?

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Speaker 3: Can you just walk out thing? I'm surprised at that,

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Speaker 3: and particularly as this was a third show heat audition four.

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Speaker 3: He likes being on the telly exactly did he not

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Speaker 3: like how he was being depicted? Is that what we think?

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Speaker 1: Probably not. I think he just ended up being really

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Speaker 1: frustrated with Holly, which is ironic because he was incredibly

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Speaker 1: frustrating himself.

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Speaker 3: And so she walked in on her own last night.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and she dropped the big bombshell. She spoke her truth.

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Speaker 4: She did. I watched Andrew last week sit on the

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Speaker 4: couch and take it accountability and not excuse himself to

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Speaker 4: a degree, and I watched Holly roll her eyes and

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Speaker 4: poor faces. And then again last night, I watched Holly

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Speaker 4: ignore him when she came into the room and then

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Speaker 4: very dramatically move her seat. So I don't think Holly's

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Speaker 4: behavior has been one hundred percent adult.

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Speaker 2: So that's Olivia unloading on Holly. And the reason why

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Speaker 2: was because Holly read that let her out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been alone this entire journey, and I came

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Speaker 5: into the room hoping for support I felt I earned

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Speaker 5: and I walked in the villain. I felt alone in

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Speaker 5: the room. I got attacked and you couldn't see it. Instead,

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Speaker 5: you judged me.

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Speaker 1: Holly sat on the couch, and she did. She had

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Speaker 1: several pieces of paper and that was a five pager

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Speaker 1: it was, and you looked at it and you went, oh,

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Speaker 1: I know. I was like, come on quickly, now, when

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Speaker 1: you see someone coming with a sheaf of paper, you

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Speaker 1: just go Okay.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, who's riding on that side? Like the others

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Speaker 3: are saying, she's the pain in the neck.

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Speaker 1: Yes. So that's what's interesting is that Olivia and Jackson

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Speaker 1: from the beginning have been this gorgeous couple that you

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Speaker 1: almost thought, how did they stumble into this? They're incredibly normal,

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Speaker 1: why are you here? Very confusing? But then in this

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Speaker 1: situation they become the villains. Yeah, and I think it

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Speaker 1: goes to show anyone who goes on reality TV. You're

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Speaker 1: on it for long enough, you're going to become a demon.

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Speaker 1: Something very bad is going to happen. You're going to

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Speaker 1: say the wrong thing.

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Speaker 3: But if they observe stuff that the others haven't.

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Speaker 1: Look, maybe, but what we're seeing here, I like in

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Speaker 1: it to the grace tame situation, which is there's this

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Speaker 1: Andrew who is being awful and emotionally cruel to this woman,

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Speaker 1: and then she rolls her eyes and everybody's like, how

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Speaker 1: dare she roll her eyes? How very rude? How very

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Speaker 1: rude and inappropriate. So it is interesting that we've got

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Speaker 1: on Married at First Sight playing out what we've also

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Speaker 1: got in Parliament.

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Speaker 3: Yes, people don't like girls who don't smile and make

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Speaker 3: nice No.

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Speaker 1: And I find that really fascinating because I don't know

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Speaker 1: why women seem to be held to such a higher standard,

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Speaker 1: And it happens on this show.

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Speaker 2: A lot that people and by other women.

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Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred, it's live weighing in and having that

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Speaker 1: opinion that this woman is being incredibly rude, and like.

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Speaker 2: Jenny Morrison says, you disappointed in grace time, Yeah, are

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Speaker 2: you just going to be polite?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: No, I was groomed by a guy that was five

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Speaker 2: times my age when I was fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Exactly when you objectively look at the situation, you think, oh,

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Speaker 1: doesn't she kind of have the right to maybe roll

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Speaker 1: her eyes? So, as always Married at First Sight commentary.

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Speaker 3: On the culture, it echoes, It does you, it.

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Speaker 1: Does And then we have the second couple I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about. We have Tamara and Brent.

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Speaker 2: So Brent, Brent is the foot god he is.

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Speaker 3: Last night.

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Speaker 2: We engaged in intimacy. Yes, who sounds remarkably like con

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Speaker 2: from the Castle and the hotel Trace and I was

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Speaker 2: staying in They had this one channel kickboxing twenty four

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Speaker 2: hours a day a day he does, that's.

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Speaker 1: Exactly the same. Especially amazed.

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Speaker 3: Are they working as a couple.

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Speaker 1: Definitely not so. Tamara and Brent have been having this

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Speaker 1: fight about the volume on the television and has gone

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Speaker 1: for several days, this fight. But the annoying thing is

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Speaker 1: the cameras didn't capture it, so it's we're just hearing

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Speaker 1: them fight about something. We have no idea of knowing

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Speaker 1: who's in the right, who's in the wrong. It started

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Speaker 1: that the volume was too loud, and then it's now

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Speaker 1: turned into someone wants to turn music on. Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine if your petty fights were shown on the television,

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Speaker 1: how embarrassing that would be. I'd look like such about Curson?

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Speaker 3: What are yours? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yesterday my partner and I had a huge fight because

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Speaker 1: I was late to something because I was recapping married

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Speaker 1: at First Sight and he said, it's it's because you

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Speaker 1: went out last night and you hungover, and I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe it is, but I'm an adult woman and i

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Speaker 1: can make my own bad decision.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I've got to forard tattoo was my choice.

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Speaker 1: My choice, and I stand by. But this couple, I

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Speaker 1: think it really goes to show what happens in actual relationships,

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Speaker 1: because it turns out Brent calls to a dictator and

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Speaker 1: he says that she dictates when he should go to bed,

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Speaker 1: when he should nap, when he should get up, And

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Speaker 1: then it turns out it's because he's complaining about being

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Speaker 1: tired all the time. And I reckon relationships are about

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Speaker 1: listening to somebody whinge and not trying to correct them

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Speaker 1: or tell them what to do about it. Because don't

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Speaker 1: we all complain about being tired all the time? Should

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Speaker 1: we go to bed earlier?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Are we going to no?

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Speaker 1: And if our partner tells us, are we going to

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Speaker 1: be annoyed?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Don't baby me?

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Speaker 3: Isn't it interesting? And married at first sight? And we've

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Speaker 3: said this before. It's relationships that are truncated into a

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Speaker 3: very short period of time. That is a couple who've

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Speaker 3: been together a long time kind of fight.

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Speaker 2: In the outside world, that's a twenty five year relationship.

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Speaker 3: Should there could be something where a guy comes in

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Speaker 3: and puts a cup of coffee on the bench and

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Speaker 3: the woman's emptied the dishwasher and that ends a marriage.

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Speaker 3: And it's not because of the cup. It's because you

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Speaker 3: don't see that I've done. You don't see me, you

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Speaker 3: don't think of my feelings, you don't respect me. All

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Speaker 3: these things are loaded, aren't they.

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Speaker 1: And that's what's fascinating is that these people have been

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Speaker 1: married two weeks and they're already they're already having that fight,

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Speaker 1: having a middle aged people's fights.

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Speaker 2: I know it's the span of a house fly.

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Speaker 1: I know it's different if you've been together ten years,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, two weeks. I just don't think they've got

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Speaker 1: a future a working yeah God.

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Speaker 2: But they're providing entertainment and Claire, a reason for you

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Speaker 2: to come in and chat with the which we always love.

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Speaker 2: Will you come back next week for the cash and prizes,

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Speaker 2: of which there are none? There?

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Speaker 3: She goes Claire Stevens, was she's still here? Potend you've gone?

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Speaker 5: Claire? Yeah, Jonesy and Amanda's