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Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line is the Airport Development

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Speaker 1: Groups Executive General Manager of Operations, Rob Porter. Good morning

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Speaker 1: to your Rob.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katy. How are you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Really good, Great to have you on the show now, Rob,

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Speaker 1: firstly to those new routes, How have the Darwin Singapore

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Speaker 1: How has that flight on Quantas been? Has there been

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Look, I think across the board all of our

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Speaker 1: Well, as you touched on, you know, it's one of

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Speaker 1: Rob I've got to tell you one thing I don't

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Speaker 2: is being part of that as well. But look at

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Speaker 2: when we've created this resort with a magnificent pool, we've

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a part of the business that we're

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Speaker 2: So upgrading, you know, we're kind of leading the way

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Speaker 1: Is there going to be, like you said, more to

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Speaker 1: come out there. I understand that there could be some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look we're not We're not finished in the resorts,

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Speaker 2: we'll do some you know, some more maintenance and upgrades

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Speaker 2: at the Novotel. So no, we're not finished. We're well

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Speaker 2: going to so oh look it's it's back over behind

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Speaker 1: Airport Development Groups Executive general Manager of Operations, Rob Porter,

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Speaker 1: good to speak to you this morning. I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks you and Katy take you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, you two