1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Now, a little while ago you would have heard me 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: mention that I read a text message out from one 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: of our listeners. I think it was Marianne who messaged 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: through to say that she went and did her one 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: kilometer at the Palmerston Pool this morning and that there 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: was a number of people there who ordinarily used the 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: rehab pool at the Palmerston Hospital, but they're now having 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: to go to the Palmeston Pool. Now, this is something 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: that we spoke about towards the end of last year, 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: and I had said that Robin Burridge, a very well 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: known and respected territory and had spoken to us on 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: the show about this towards the end of last year. 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Now I'm really pleased to say that Robin joins me 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: on the line. Good morning, Robin. 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: Happy new Yekadie. 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Happy to you too, Hey, thank you, thank you so 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: much for getting in contact with us. Robin. 18 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 2: What's the latest? 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Oh anytime? What's the latest with the pool out at 20 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: the Palmerston Hospital. 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: Will you recall the health Minister came on your program 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: after I was on. He told you a number of things. 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,639 Speaker 2: He first of all said it was a public pool, 24 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: but because he sort of changed his mind about that 25 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: because he said it was a private pool, but he's 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: changed his mind. It is a public pool of course, 27 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: as winner costing three million dollars. He then said, you know, 28 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: if you put in a referral, well, yes, you'll be 29 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: able to use the pool and if you have any 30 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: problems let him know. Well I put in a referral 31 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: last November. It hasn't even been acknowledged. And I know 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: why they're not acknowledging my referral because I'd said I 33 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: want to go in the pool with my private video, 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: which I think is my right, but according to them, 35 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: you have to go in with their physio. But I 36 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: know people that have put in referrals who are quite 37 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: happy to use their videos. And also they haven't had 38 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: a response either, so that no. 39 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: One's even acknowledged that you sent that to not even 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: acknowledgment Katie. 41 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: And I'm on the stage now. I mean, I got 42 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: sepsus in twenty twenty four, very I almost lost my life. 43 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: I desperately need a hydra and it's not available to 44 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: me because they're not allowing private physiotherapists to use the 45 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: pool at all. But they say that they're under resourced. 46 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: Robin, what kind of impact is that having on you personally, 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: not being able to do that hydro therapy that you've 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: done in the past. 49 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: Well, I'm now using my wheelchair inside my house, which 50 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: I've never ever done before. I've always been able to 51 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: walk around on a walking frame, Robin. 52 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: That makes me feel really upset and annoyed. 53 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: On eighty a half, I'm more upset about the grandmother 54 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: that rang you about her grandchild and had terrible pausing, 55 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: that was receiving wonderful therapy from I think Outreach physiosm 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: and he was using the hydro pool and he'd also 57 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: been denied under the new rules and regulations. There has 58 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:06,559 Speaker 2: never been any consultation whatsoever with anybody, therapists, participants, clients, 59 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: call them, whatever you want to call them, Robin. 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: From your perspective, you know, was the pool being misused? 61 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: Was there an enormous number of people in there? Was there, 62 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: like you know, was there anything that could have. 63 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: Prompted this, Katie, You tried to get those stats. We've 64 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: all tried to find out how often the pool is used, 65 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: when and by how many people. Now you tried to 66 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: get them, I know ABC TV tried to get them 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: even though the minister has tried to get them. I 68 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: did have a meeting with the minister, by the way, yeah, 69 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: and I thought that went fairly well, but it obviously 70 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: all went pear shaped because I haven't had any contact 71 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: with him since, and yet he virtually promised me all 72 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: sorts of things. He's never said thank you for one 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: single femail. I've got a whole file. I've got a 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: filing cabinet full of paperwork on this whole thing. One 75 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: of his advisors, now, Hailey Collen, she has said tell 76 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: people to go to their local members, and I know 77 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: some people are doing that. 78 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I don't like. I in my experience, Robin, 79 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: the more that we talk about it, the more that 80 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 1: I talk about it, the hopefully, you know, we see 81 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: some change. So look, I'll try my best to continue 82 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: to raise the issue. We will put in a request 83 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: to get him on the show for next week so 84 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: that we can ask some of those questions. But can 85 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: keep in contact with us as well. And please, you know, 86 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: if to everybody out there listening this morning, if you 87 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: are somebody that's been impacted by this, if you are 88 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: somebody who is no longer able to use that pool 89 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: at the Palmerston Regional Hospital as you had previously, to 90 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: help you with your rehabilitation and to be able to 91 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: get into that pool. Please get in contact with us, 92 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: because you know, as best as I can try to 93 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: fight that fight, sometimes my voice is not enough and 94 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: what I actually need is the voices of you guys 95 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: of territories like Robin is doing right now. So please 96 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: get in contact with us so that I can make 97 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: sure that we get that message loud and clear to 98 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: the Minister for. 99 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: Health, Katie. The minister knows that he is not being 100 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: told the truth. The time that I met with him, 101 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: he had one of his senior staff members with him 102 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: and she told him, oh, we've got these guidelines now 103 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: and Robin has seen them and she's going to be involved. 104 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: She's going to be the person with the disability that's 105 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: going to consult with us and talk to us about them. 106 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: And I said, excuse me, Minister, I know absolutely nothing 107 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: about guidelines. I haven't been consulted about anything. And he 108 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: asked this person while we were all sitting there, He said, 109 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: is this true? Has Robin seen the guidelines? Have you talked 110 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: to her about them? On? No, not yet, minister, And 111 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 2: then they did subsequently send them to me. I started 112 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: to ask some questions and I was virtually told them 113 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: mine my own business. 114 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: Well, Robin, consultations are two ways straight. It's not just 115 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: giving information and not allowing you to actually, you know, 116 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: converse back. 117 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind if the pool was being used extensively 118 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: by the in patients and our patients they naturally have 119 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: the first priority. But it's not being used. It's only 120 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: been used hours, not every day. 121 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is just unbelievable hours a week. You know, 122 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: if we've got this incredible facility that can help the 123 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: lives of territorians, then why not bloody. 124 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: User Or when we do get full use Katie, I've 125 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: already said I'm going to throw a full party and 126 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: the band band or midnight cruise and they said they'll 127 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: come down and provide the music. I'll put on the 128 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 2: food and we'll have a big party because it is 129 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: going to happen. 130 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it will good, then it will. 131 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: People are not telling the minister the truth and. 132 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: You've got to We've got to have that people power. So, 133 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: like I said to anybody listening this morning, give us 134 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: a call, send us a message, send us an email. 135 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: I will do my best to make sure that your 136 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: voices are heard. Robin. I always appreciate your time, and 137 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: I really appreciate your calling through this morning, and i'd 138 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: thought of you earlier as Marianna message through and of 139 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: course I said that, and I'm so glad to have 140 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: heard from you this morning. 141 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: Well, you rattled a lot of cages the last time 142 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: that you had both myself and then the minister on. 143 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: After I met with the minister, I said, I thought, 144 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: I think we should go back on Katie's program and 145 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: set the record straight. And at one stage he leads 146 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: to do that. He's subsequently been told so much wrong 147 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 2: information that I don't think he knows what to do next. 148 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: Well, Robin, I'll put it out there. I'm happy to 149 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: have you both in here with me. 150 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: I'm happy to come. 151 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: I know you are. Well. We've just got to get 152 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: we've just got to get the minister as well. Robin. 153 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. Please continue to let us know what's going on, 154 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: and we'll do our best. 155 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: Reploking you to do this because it's just absolutely ridiculous. 156 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely I agree with you. Robin. Lovely to hear from you. 157 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll maybe we'll have a change of ministry. It's 158 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: a new year. 159 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 160 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: Let's see what Leah is prepared to ann who knows. 161 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: We'll wait and see. Or Robin Burrage lovely to talk 162 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: to you this morning. 163 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. 164 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: And I know Kathleen, Kathleen Dissola. You know Kathleen, I'm 165 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: sure very well yeah, yeah, very well known territorians. Yeah. Robin, 166 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: love your work. You're you're thank you so much. Thank you, 167 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: Robin bye now, thank you and double Someone's just message 168 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: through and said Robin is the type of person who 169 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: would make an ideal administrator. Wouldn't she have been incredible 170 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: as the administrator? Now somebody else Greg had messaged through 171 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: and said, David Connolly's the Queenslander and that's enough for 172 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: him not to be the administrator, says Greg. Look, there's 173 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: a lot of messages on the tech signe this morning, 174 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: but I'm really keen to hear from anybody out there 175 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: listening today. If this situation with the Palmerston rehabilitation pool 176 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: at the hospital has had an impact on you, and 177 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: it is something that we spoke about towards the end 178 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: of last year. It's something that sort of has been 179 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: on mine and Kathleen's list of things that we need 180 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: to follow up since we came back to work this week. 181 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: But you know, for me, I just think if we've 182 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: got an incredible facility out there that was being used, 183 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: had been used without issue previously, I just don't understand 184 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: why we've changed something. And you know, for the Minister, 185 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: he'd then come on and said that if people do 186 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: have that referral from a specialist, that they're able to 187 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: use that hydro pool. Well, Robin had said that she 188 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: is one of many who presented that little letter of 189 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: referral and hasn't even had a response