1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Good morning, team, Welcome to the Daily OS. It is Wednesday, 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: the twenty sixth of January. I'm joined today by a 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: TDA political journalist, Billy FitzSimons. She's going to run us 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: through a quick explainer on the ULARUS statement from the heart. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: It's an appt to day to have that conversation. But first, Billy, 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: let's go to the stories. What's making headlines this morning. 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: So a COVID nineteen outbreak on an Australian Navy vessel 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: that was intended to provide humanitarian aid to Tonga will 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: remain at sea to ensure the virus does not enter Tonga, 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: as a Pacific nation is currently COVID nineteen free. The vessel, 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: which has a crew of over six hundred people on board, 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: is carrying medical supplies, engineering equipment and helicopters to assist 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: Tonga after a volcanic eruption and tsunami. 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: This next story might be distressing for some listeners. New 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: South Wales police have confirmed nine year old Charlie Smutton 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: died after being shot and she was likely killed at 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: the property her face family were holidaying at in the 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: Blue Mountains. Charlie's mother's fiance Justin Stein has been charged 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: with her murder. Police believe Charlie's was killed sometime between 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: late on January eleven and early on January twelve. 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: And Wikileak's founder, Julian Assange has been granted permission to 22 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: appeal to the British Supreme Court against a potential US extradition. 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: In order to proceed, Assange must now wait to hear 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 2: if the Supreme Court agrees to accept the case. 25 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: And today's good news from out of space, the James 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: Webb telescope has arrived at its observing position thirty days 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: after launching. The James Web Telescope, for those of us 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: who might not remember the good news from late last year, 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: is the telescope that can see the furthest back into 30 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: our galaxy one hundred times further than the Hubble telescope. 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: The position that's landed in is called the langrange point two, 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: and it's one point five million kilometers away from the 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Earth's surface. Controllers on Earth will now work over the 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: coming months to get the tell lescope ready for observation 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: and get it to start working. Today, we're looking at 36 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: what the ULARUS statement is and where the Australian government 37 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: is up to with implementing its key elements. 38 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 3: We've had black desks in custody, We've had national inquiries, 39 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: We've had the National Aboriginal Health Strategy. We've had these 40 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: things over generations, over decades, over centuries, and then people 41 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: come together and come up with a beautiful roadmap. You 42 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 3: want to know what we need to do. We need 43 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: to do that without questions. Question. 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: We actually have a reading of the statement that we're 45 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: going to play in full at the end of this episode. 46 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: But before we do that, we need a bit of 47 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: context behind the Ularu statement. Billy, can you explain to 48 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: us where the Ularu statement from the heart came from? 49 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: Yes, So before I explain what the ullary statement actually is, 50 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: I think the context behind it is really important. So 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, are then Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and 52 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: then Opposition Leader Bill Shorten asked a group of First 53 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: Nations leaders to propose the best way forward for constitutional recognition. 54 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: As you might know, First Nations people aren't currently recognized 55 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: in Australia's constitution, so that means that there's no acknowledgment 56 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: that First Nations people were on this land for tens 57 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: of thousands of years prior to European colonization. So the 58 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: First Nation's leaders went away, they spoke to First Nations 59 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: people all over the country, and they came back two 60 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: years later with the Ullery Statement from the heart. And 61 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: I think it's also important to note Sam that this 62 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: wasn't a statement to the government or to Australia's politicians. 63 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: This was a statement to the people of Australia. 64 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: It's a statement to us. It's a statement to us 65 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: listening right now. And what exactly did that statement entail? 66 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: Yes, so it has three key elements, and when I 67 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: go through them, I think it's important to keep in 68 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: mind that they're designed to be sequential, so they're designed 69 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: to come one after the other. So the first element 70 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: is a Voice to Parliament, which would essentially be an 71 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: official representative body that gives First Nations people a say 72 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: in laws and policies that affect them. And so the 73 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: Orlary Statement specifically asks for the Voice to Parliament to 74 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: be enshrined in the Australian Constitution, which, as I mentioned before, 75 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: First Nations people aren't currently recognized in and just quickly 76 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: you might be wondering, how do we change the Constitution 77 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: and so that requires a referendum, which is a vote 78 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: put to the Australian people about whether to approve or 79 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: reject a change to the constitution. And it's basically just 80 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: a yes or no answer, and for it to be successful, 81 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: the majority of Australians in the majority of states need 82 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: to vote yes. And referendums are extremely rare. I'm guessing 83 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: that most of you listening to this have never voted 84 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: in one, considering the last one was in nineteen ninety nine. 85 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 1: So that's the voice to Parliament. 86 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: And after that is introduced, the Ullary Statement asks for 87 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: a Macarata Commission to be set up, which would involve 88 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 2: signing a treaty and establishing a truth telling process. So 89 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: that's the second and third key element of the Ulary Statement. 90 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: So a treaty is a way of reaching a settlement 91 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: between First Nations people and those who have colonized their lands. 92 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: And you might not know that Australia is actually the 93 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: only Commonwealth country that has not signed a treaty with 94 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: its First Nations people. And then there's the truth telling process, 95 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: which would involve the opportunity for First Nations people to 96 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: share their culture, their heritage and their history with the 97 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: broader community. 98 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: So at the start you said that Malcolm Turnbull was 99 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Australia when he asked for this statement 100 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: in conjunction with the opposition at the time. How did 101 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: he react when the statement was delivered. 102 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: Yes, so, like I said earlier, he did ask for 103 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: this statement and in Octo twenty seventeen, so a few 104 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: months after it was delivered, Prime Minister Malcolm Turmbull actually 105 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: rejected the Orilary statement all together. He said in a 106 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: statement at the time, the Government does not believe such 107 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: a radical change to our constitution's representative institutions has any 108 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: realistic prospect of being supported by a majority of Australians 109 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: in a majority of states. So there he's referencing the 110 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: referendum which I talked about earlier. 111 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: And so here we are in twenty twenty two. What 112 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: does our current Prime Minister, Scott Morrison have to say. 113 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: So, Scott Morrison is against enshrining a voice to Parliament 114 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: in the Constitution, and we have a quick snippet he's 115 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 2: what Morrison had to say on that in March last year. 116 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: Are you willing to consider going to a referendum? 117 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: To enshrine a voice into the constitution or do you 118 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: rule that out we already have. 119 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 4: I mean, it's never been the government's policy to have 120 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: that process enshrined in the constitution. That's never been the 121 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 4: government's policy. I think that's pretty clear. It's not the 122 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 4: government's policy. 123 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: So that's Scott Morrison saying that he does not support 124 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: in shriining a voice to Parliament in the Constitution. But 125 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: I think it is important to clarify that. Scott Morrison 126 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: has said that he is for establishing a Voice to 127 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: Parliament and he is for constitutional change, but he's not 128 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: for merging the two, which, as I've explained earlier, is 129 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: what the statement explicitly asks for. 130 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: But I'm going to pull you up on that point. Billy. 131 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: You said he's for them, Where is he and his 132 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: government actually up to with implementing them. 133 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: Are you pulling me up on it or Scott Morrison? 134 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm pulling everyone up on it. Well. 135 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: In December, the Minister for Indigenous Australians, Ken Wyatt, actually 136 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: released the government's final report on the co design process, 137 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: which essentially developed models and options for an Indigenous Voice 138 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: to Parliament to be established in Australia and it involved 139 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: a series of local bodies and also a national body, 140 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: and so there was a lot of discussion prior to 141 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: this coming out about whether Morrison would legislate this body, 142 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: because as we know, he's against enshrining it in the Constitution, 143 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: and so when this did come out, it still wasn't 144 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: clear if this body would be legislated in Australia. So 145 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: the announcement was quite controversial because of that, but it 146 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: was also controversial because of its timing. It was released 147 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: in December, and as we know, the next federal election 148 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: is sometime in the next few months, and this Voice 149 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: to Parliament will not be legislated before the election occurs. 150 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: And so to round out this episode, I think it's 151 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: quite fitting to actually hear the Ullery Statement from the 152 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 2: Heart in full. He's a reading of it from Elira Davis, 153 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: who is the co chair of the Ullary Youth Dialogue. 154 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 5: My name is Elera Davis. I'm a proud Cobble coleman 155 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 5: from the Burringum and Bura governation and this is the 156 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 5: Ulary Statement from the Heart we gathered at the twenty 157 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 5: seventeen National Constitutional Convention, coming from all points of the 158 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 5: southern sky, making this statement from the heart. Our Aboriginal 159 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 5: and Torrestroy islander tribes were the first sovereign nations of 160 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 5: the Australian continent and its adjacent islands, and possessed it 161 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 5: under our own laws and customs. This our ancestors did 162 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 5: according to the reckoning of our culture, from the creation, 163 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 5: according to the common law, from time immemorial, and according 164 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 5: to science more than sixty thousand years ago. This sovereignty 165 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 5: is a spiritual notion, the ancestral tie between the land 166 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 5: or mother nature and the Aboriginal trisha arnored peoples who 167 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 5: were born therefrom remain attached there too, and must one 168 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 5: day return thither to be united with our ancestors. This 169 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 5: link is a basis of the ownersh of the soil, 170 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 5: or better of sovereignty. It has never been seated or extinguished, 171 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 5: and coexists with the sovereignty of the crown. How could 172 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 5: it be otherwise that peoples possessed a land over sixty 173 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 5: millennial and this sacred link disappears from world history in 174 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 5: merely the last two hundred years. With substantive constitutional change 175 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 5: and structural reform. We believe this ancient sovereignty can shine 176 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 5: through as a full expression of Australia's nationhood. Proportionally, we 177 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 5: are the most incarcerated people on the planet. We are 178 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 5: not innately criminal people. Our children are alien from their 179 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 5: families at unprecedented rates. This cannot be because we have 180 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 5: no love for them, and our youth languish in detention 181 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 5: in obscene numbers. They should be our hope for the future. 182 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 5: These dimensions of our crisis tell plainly the structural nature 183 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 5: of our problem. This is the torment of our powerlessness. 184 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 5: We seek constitutional reforms to empower our people and take 185 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 5: a rightful place in our own country. When we have 186 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 5: power over our destiny, our children will flourish, They will 187 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 5: walk in two worlds, and their culture will be a 188 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 5: gift to their country. We call for the establishment of 189 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 5: a first nation's voice enshrined in the Constitution. Macarata is 190 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 5: the culmination of our gender, the coming together after a struggle. 191 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 5: It captures our aspirations for a fair and truthful relationship 192 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 5: with the people of Australia and a better future for 193 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 5: our children based on justice and self determination. We seek 194 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 5: a Makarata Commission to supervise a process of agreement making 195 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 5: between governments and First nations, and truth telling about our history. 196 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 5: In nineteen sixty seven, we were counted in twenty seventeen. 197 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 5: We seek to be heard. We leave base camp and 198 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 5: start our trek across this vast country. We invite you 199 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 5: to walk with us in a movement of the Australian 200 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 5: people for a better future.