1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: Sophie Torbert and on today's show, we're going to be 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: counting down the top influencers stories of the year. And 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: what a massive year it's been. Kpe Oh twenty twenty 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: five has not disappointed. I cannot believe all of these 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: things happened within the space of twelve months. It's quite 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: funny because we get a lot of questions like how 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: do you come up with the content for your podcast 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: and what do you ever run out of stories? We 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: are nearly seven years into this podcast and we have 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: not had one week where we're like, I wonder what 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about. Like, influencers have delivered, They 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: really have. And I had so much fun putting this 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: list together because it really blew my mind looking back 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: at stories that broke at the start of the year 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: and they didn't seem that long ago, but personally in 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: my life so much has changed since then. It just 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: was a really weird feeling. Yeah, it is really weird. 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: Let's kick off with number ten, and that is it's 21 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: a controversial Uber eats campaign that Steph Claire Smith and 22 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: her husband Josh Miller created back in January. So this 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: was a video promoting Uber Eats's new Kid's breakfast box, 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: and it garnered over one point four million views, but 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: comments quickly had to be disabled as followers were very 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: distracted by the couple's rather comical attempts to conceal their 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: son Harvey's face throughout the ad, and it led to 28 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: many questioning if privacy is paramount, why include your three 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: year old in brand deals at all, as you touched on. 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: So this year has been an absolute blur. When did 31 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Steph start hiding Harvey's face? It was actually late last year, 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: so late twenty twenty four. She's been doing it for 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: over a year now and they did speak in depth 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: about their decision to no longer show his face online. 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: So the decision came after Harvey started to be recognized 36 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: in public even when he wasn't with his famous parents, 37 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: So he was approached by a fan well as in 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: Steph's fan, whilst on a childcare excursion and all so 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: when he was out with different family members who were 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 1: babysitting him. And this was a huge change for the couple. 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: Hiding his face because he has featured on a lot 42 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: of their content, particularly Josh Miller's content, because as a 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: primary carer for Harvey, he built up a bit of 44 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: a following as being a stay at home dad, particularly 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: on TikTok. Yeah, well, he actually still posts a lot 46 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: of content with Harvey. I came across as TikTok the 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: other day and it's quite interesting because the only content 48 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: he shares now are ads, but they still feature Harvey 49 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: in a very similar way to this Uber ad campaign 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 1: that garnered so much at Tension in January. So let's 51 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: get into that ad. So it was very creatively shot 52 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: by the couple, and as you said, Kate, they have 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: continued to be creative in the way that they use 54 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: Harvey and ads, and they really did stick to their 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: guns in this video and didn't include his face in 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: it at all. Many of the shots of Josh and 57 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: Harvey cooking were filmed overhead, and they even used an 58 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: Uber eats box and also a vase of flowers to 59 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: conceal his face, which was hilarious at the time. They 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: even showed Harvey playing with a toy that came in 61 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: the breakfast box, and every time he spun around. It 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: would cut as soon as his face became visible. It 63 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: literally looked like he was in witness protection. The way 64 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: that they had shot and produced this, it's interesting to 65 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: consider the backlash that surrounded this ad only twelve months ago. 66 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: When you consider how g Bungalow was absolutely praised for 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: not including kids' faces in her recent fashion campaign, I 68 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: think it shows how much things have changed for kids 69 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: online in the last year, particularly with the government introducing 70 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: the Social Media Band for kids under sixteen. I think 71 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: the difference with Steph and Josh's situation is that they 72 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: earn a hell of a lot of money. Steph has 73 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: appeared on the Young Rich List a number of times. 74 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: I think her fortune is estimated on over twenty million dollars. 75 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: So a lot of people were questioning, well, do you 76 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: really have to take these ads that include your child 77 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: if you were so hell bent on keeping his face 78 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: private and everything else. And people also question how effective 79 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: this actually was for Uber Eats because so many people 80 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: were just distracted by the fact that his face wasn't 81 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: in it. That was what all the comments were. It 82 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: wasn't about the actual product that they were selling. It's 83 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: funny though, because the way Steph and Josh shot it 84 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: meant that the video went viral because there was so 85 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: much engagement on it of people commenting about not being 86 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: able to see Harvey's face. So it actually was quite 87 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: successful for uber eats in the way that it got 88 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: fed out to one point four million people. I was 89 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: actually watching a video of Michael Finch cooking and Christmas 90 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: crack the other day and that went viral. It had 91 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: over a million views because in the first scene, he 92 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: cuts like a block of butter that's covered in paper, 93 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: and a bit of the paper goes into the bowl 94 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: and like everyone was just commenting, did anyone see the paper? 95 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: Like it was just so funny and it's crazy how 96 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: I swear influencers now leave things in like that as 97 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: a bit of clickbait to drive engagement. Now Sharing ninth 98 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: spot is Olivia Rodgers and her ex husband Justin mckinne's 99 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: separate baby announcements. So I want to make that clear. 100 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: So they didn't have a baby together, They had babies 101 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: with two different people. Yes. Now In in the New Year, 102 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: Justin shocked the internet with the news he was expecting 103 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: a baby with his on again, off again bachelor star 104 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: girlfriend Tany Leeson, and the news was particularly surprising as 105 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 1: it was just weeks after Justin had reportedly vanished before 106 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: he was due to appear in court to face theft charges. 107 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: So late in twenty twenty four, his former employer alleges 108 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: that he stole almost half a million dollars while working 109 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: as head of finance to allegedly fuel a drug problem. 110 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: It's crazy that it's been over a year now we 111 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: haven't actually found out the outcome of this core case. Well, 112 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: he was a no show so many times. I mean, 113 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't seem to be in a good place. Unfortunately now, 114 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: despite his legal woes, it didn't appear that any expense 115 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: was spared when it came to the way that they 116 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: shared their baby news. So they hired a professional photographer 117 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: to capture a rather glamorous beachside pregnancy shoot. See. I 118 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: actually found it a little bit millennial. I know some 119 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: influencers recently have done a beach side photo shoot. I 120 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: absolutely loved Shantel Stantons, even though I was at the beach. 121 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: The photos are absolutely stunning, but there was something a 122 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: little bit too posed about it. I felt a bit tacky. Yeah, 123 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: I mean I feel terrible but to you. But then again, 124 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but if you were in court and you 125 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: owe someone all this money, I wouldn't be then promoting 126 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: the fact that you've got all this money to hire 127 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: a photographer, like get a friend to take the photos. Yeah, 128 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: that was probably why I had a bit of an 129 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: adverse reaction to it. It was also so surprising because 130 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: we didn't even know that Justin and Tarani were still together. 131 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: They seemed to have a bit of an on again, 132 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: off again relationship, but it seemed like the baby news 133 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: brought them back together. Yeah, because we had so many 134 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: people hitting up our DM saying, oh my god, I've 135 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: just matched with Justin on bumble and oh I went 136 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: out on a date with him recently, and all I 137 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: did was talk about himself, and we were like, oh gosh, 138 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: so I wonder. Yeah, it would have been interesting to 139 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: know the timing of it all. In terms of the 140 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: caption on the post, Tarani wrote, starting the new year 141 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: with the most exciting news to date. Cannot believe how 142 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: much we love you already, so grateful you chose us now. 143 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: Justin ended up commenting under the post, You're going to 144 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: be an amazing I cannot wait, and this was in 145 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: a new private account that he'd made, because when the 146 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: news broke of the alleged theft, he actually deleted his 147 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: original account, which had around ten thousand followers. And there 148 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: was a massive response online to this news. A lot 149 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: of people speculated that perhaps they were trying to look 150 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: unfazed by Justin's legal controversy, almost like playing it down 151 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: and removing themselves from the narrative. In our Facebook community, 152 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: one listener wrote, guess he was missing from court because 153 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: he was tied up at his pregnancy announcement photo shoot. 154 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: Another said I hadn't even made my twenty twenty five 155 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: bingo card and sure shit, this wouldn't have made it 156 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: in a million years. There was also a lot of 157 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: people worried at the time about Tani and why she 158 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: wanted to make this pregnancy news so public. There were 159 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: also some fears that perhaps she was banking on Justin 160 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: somehow changing when he became a dad, and I'm sad 161 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: to say that it appears that didn't happen. So in May, 162 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: Tani announced the arrival of their baby boy, Arlo Lison McKeon, 163 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: and she chose Mother's Day to make the announcement, showing 164 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: that it had been a tough entry into motherhood, with 165 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: Arlo experiencing breathing difficulties shortly after he was born. She wrote, 166 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: no one can prepare you to go through the all 167 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: consuming and emotional experience of childbirth, only to watch this 168 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: tiny little boy be wheeled away from you me hours later. 169 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: Then the hours upon hours I spent in hospital just 170 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: holding him in my arms, never wanting to leave, and 171 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: crying when I had to. Now, Interestingly, in the announcement, 172 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: there was no reference to Justin. There also wasn't a 173 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: photo of him with his son. Out of the twelve 174 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: photos in the carousel, Justin only featured in the background 175 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: as he supported Tarini through labor. It was in stark 176 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: contrast to the pregnancy announcement. He also didn't comment on 177 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: the announcement. He also wasn't a collaborator on the post, 178 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: which was a bit of a giveaway as well. Now 179 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: by Father's Day, Tarny appeared to throw further shade at 180 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: Justin so in a post Instagram, she shared a photo 181 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: of her cuddling Arlo on the couch and captioned it, 182 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: I know some incredible dads and I hope they each 183 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: have a beautiful day to day, although Happy Father's Day 184 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: to all themmas out there doing both. Yeah. That speaks volumes, 185 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: doesn't it. Yeah. I mean. The other thing is when 186 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: Justin and Tany originally made their pregnancy announcement at the 187 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: start of the year, a lot of followers were concerned 188 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: about how this news would affect Olivia because she was 189 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: undergoing fertility treatment while she was married to Justin, and 190 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: she actually made the decision to break up with Justin 191 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: the day before she was set to undergo a fertility 192 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: procedure because she realized that the thought of being pregnant 193 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: to him made her feel really scared. And I think 194 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: that was why there was so much fear for Tani 195 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: and how he would act in that situation. The thing is, 196 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: Olivia didn't really keep her followers guessing how she felt 197 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: about it. In her podcast, she said that she essentially 198 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: felt like she had dodged a bullet and that she 199 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: was in a really happy place with her new boyfriend, 200 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: Hugo Brakey. Yeah. Well, in November, the whole internet collectively 201 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: rejoiced when Olivia shared the news that she and Hugo 202 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: were expecting first child It did come as a bit 203 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: of a surprise though, because we were very open with 204 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: the fact that we were on engagement Watch. Ever since 205 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: Hugo appeared on Olivia's podcast, I still think a Christmas 206 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: proposal could be happening, because they are actually finding out 207 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: the gender of their baby on Christmas Day. We're obviously 208 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: pre recording this podcast before Christmas, so who knows if 209 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: that has happened. Let's just manifest it, put it out there. 210 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: I want to see another Olivia wedding. It sounded as 211 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: though Olivia and Hugo were pretty surprised by the baby news, 212 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: because Olivia revealed on her own podcasts that they weren't 213 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: actually trying to conceive, so she ended up taking a 214 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: pregnancy test after her period was a couple of days late, 215 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: so she found out at around the four week mark. 216 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: It has such an early time to find out, like 217 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: that would make your pregnancy feel like it was just 218 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: going on forever. That's when I think I found out 219 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: the three or four week mark. Yeah, and I remember 220 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: by you know, twelve weeks or something, We're like, oh, 221 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: this is only twelve weeks. It is going on forever now. 222 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: She ended up filming herself, and she explained that she 223 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: filmed herself because she thought that this was going to 224 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: be one of many negative tests on her journey to conceive. However, 225 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: it was of course positive, and you could just see 226 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: the shock in her face. And Hugo ended up coming 227 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: in and I love that guy. I mean, he just 228 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: seems like such a sweetheart. But let's hope it's actually 229 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: you know when people get painted a particular online. I 230 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: genuinely think he is that way, Like, he just seems 231 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: like a really nice guy because his response was really cute. 232 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: He hugged her and he just said, it's good news. 233 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: It's good news. Yeah. I mean, Justin always seemed like 234 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: the picture perfect boyfriend of Instagram, so you just never know. 235 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: But I do. I do think after listening to that 236 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: podcast that Hugo was on that he's a great guy. Yeah. 237 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: I was about to say, I'm so excited to follow 238 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: Olivia on her motherhood journey, but unfortunately we are blocked. 239 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: Well we can still see her TikTok. Don't put that 240 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: out there. She might block us on that too. Coming in. 241 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: An eighth spot is the Sabi Scandal. So the controversial 242 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: Ossie fashion brand was accused of painting over Australian artists 243 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: Tany Kellen's work and uploading the results to Instagram. Now. 244 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: Poor Tarani was heartbroken about this at the time, and 245 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: she believed that this sort of brazen act was a 246 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: form of retaliation after she recently started selling oversized T 247 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: shirts with her artwork on it. Now Sabi has made 248 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: a name for itself for selling oversized T shirts, and 249 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: she thought that they might have been a little bit 250 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: threatened by her entering the same market. Now, this story 251 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: came to light back in May during a Q and 252 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: A on Tary's Instagram account, so she jumped on her 253 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: stories to explain that she was initially hesitant to open 254 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: up about the incident and spent weeks considering what to 255 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: do now, she finally decided that staying silent was not 256 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: an option and she was ready to speak out. So 257 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: she alleged that the Australian fashion brand purchased one of 258 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: her paintings last year for three thousand dollars. The piece 259 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: in question was one of Tarany's favorite originals, called get 260 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: Out of Your Own Way, and Tarni alleges that the 261 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: local fashion brand in question, who she chose not to 262 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: actually name at the time, painted over her artwork and 263 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: posted them doing so online now despite Tany not naming 264 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: the brand, and it wasn't long until her followers put 265 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: the dots together and realized that she was referring to 266 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: clothing brand Sabi, which is owned by husband and wife 267 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: team Jace McDonald and Ashtardru. What sparked all of this 268 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: is that a couple of weeks prior, Ash uploaded a 269 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: video of her painting over another piece of artwork. Now, 270 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: the canvassing question was to go over her bed, and 271 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: in true Sabi's style, she sprawled this massive positive affirmation 272 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: across it and the whole thing like a dog's breakfast, 273 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: like it looked terrible, and it was essentially this love 274 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: note to herself. So it said, dear me, you are 275 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: not perfect, but you are enough. Don't believe the lies 276 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: you tell about yourself. You have a magic inside you 277 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: that no one else on this planet has, and just 278 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: because you can't see it all the time doesn't mean 279 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: it isn't there. Take your breath. You're doing the best 280 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: you can and that is enough. I just can't believe 281 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: that someone would have the nerve to cover over someone's artwork, 282 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: allegedly with a love note to yourself but how great 283 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, it was all very distasteful, and in 284 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: the end, the internet collectively turned on the brand and 285 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: said that it should be canceled. A lot of people 286 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: were saying, what am I going to do with my 287 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: Sarby T shirt? It kind of became embarrassing to wear 288 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: a sarb T shirt, particularly on TikTok. Coming in in 289 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: seventh spot is Bachelor Golden couple Georgia Love and Lee 290 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: Elliott's marriage breakdown. I'm still devastated about this, Like I 291 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: can't get over it for some reason. Yeah, it's still 292 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: really upsetting. I was hoping that maybe they would rekindle 293 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: their relationship, but that obviously doesn't seem to be the 294 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: case now. This news came after months of persistent rumors 295 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: that their relationship was on the rock, so they hadn't 296 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: been seen in public or posted on socials together for 297 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: over four months. It was at that point where you're like, Okay, 298 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: it seems obvious now, but I almost didn't want to 299 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: believe it. Yeah. Another massive giveaway was that they both 300 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: stopped wearing their rings, and they also spent Christmas apart. Yeah, 301 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: and the writing was on the wall when Georgia Love 302 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: went on that solo trip to New York after Christmas, 303 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: like it was very obvious that they were no longer together. 304 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: Well at the time, she was actually inundated by fans 305 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: asking her where her husband was, and she shut down 306 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: the rumors, saying that she was incredibly tired of the 307 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: questions and that he was simply at home while she 308 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: was there visiting a friend. And she went as far 309 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: as saying we didn't split. Actually, best to stop speculating, 310 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: least of all on my own page. If I had 311 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: anything to tell you, I would do so myself. Yeah. 312 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: So it turns out the couple were trialing a separation 313 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: before they made it official. Georgia and Lee officially announced 314 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: their breakup in March, just days out from their fourth 315 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: wedding anniversary, sharing a joint statement on the Instagram Stories. 316 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: Georgia's statement read, after nine wonderful years together, including four 317 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: as husband and wife, Lee and I have made the 318 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: incredibly difficult decision to lovingly part ways. Our relationship has 319 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: been so special and we will always cherish the memories, 320 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: love and laughter we've shared. There is no drama no 321 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: bad blood, just two people who have grown in different 322 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: directions while still holding deep respect and care for each other. 323 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: We remained friends. Thank you for giving us privacy as 324 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: we navigate the next stage. I think with this statement 325 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: they really wanted to water down any potential cheating rumors, 326 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: because usually when an attractive, high profile couple splits up, 327 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: everyone automatically thinks, well, who cheated on who? Yeah, and 328 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: that led to people speculating perhaps the decision came down 329 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: to children and whether one wanted them and one didn't, 330 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: which is of course a very sensitive and deeply personal topic. 331 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: It all felt a bit cross that conversation that was 332 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: going on now since the split. The couple sold their 333 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: home and there were strong rumors of a relationship between 334 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: Lee and the projects Carry Bigmore that was splashed all 335 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: over the magazines. Yeah, well that all came to her 336 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: head when Lee was spotted with a new woman at 337 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: the Melbourne Cup. So he shared a photo to his 338 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: Instagram story with his arms wrapped around an attractive blonde. Now, 339 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: the woman in question is Mimi Hoyle. She has five 340 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: thousand Instagram followers and works for a creative agency. The 341 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: word is she comes from a wealthy family and is 342 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: in her late twenties, so a lot younger than forty 343 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: three year Oldly, she definitely gives off old money vibes. 344 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: Coming in in six spot is Molly May and Tommy 345 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: Fury's reconciliation. So seven months after dramatically announcing their split 346 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: on Instagram, the couple all but confirmed they were back 347 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: together when they jetted off on a family holiday to 348 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: their happy place Dubai listeners will know that you were 349 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: particularly thrilled by this reunion, Sophie and I mean for 350 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: months there had been speculation that the couple were seeing 351 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: each other again. They were spotted kissing on New Year's 352 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: Eve as well. That got my year of too good start. 353 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: I was so happy about that. Now. In terms of 354 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: this reconciliation holiday, an eagle eyed fan was first to 355 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: raise the alarm, snapping a photo of them at Manchester 356 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: Airport and sharing it on TikTok, and it showed the 357 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 1: family of three lining up to board their flight, so 358 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: no nanny there. Well, actually, the UK tabloid The Sun 359 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: ran with the photo, reporting that they were accompanied by 360 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: a nanny so they could spend more alone time together. 361 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I have no issue with that. If they 362 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: have the money and the means to bring a nanny 363 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: onto their overseas holiday, then do it. I know it 364 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: was a really contentious topic this year well, particularly when 365 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: you are trying to hash things out with your partner 366 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: who you've broken up with and in the press like 367 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: you need a bit of time without your child there probably, 368 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want your child privy probably to 369 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: a lot of those conversations as well. How awkward for 370 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: the nanny though, yeah, probably listening in up my ear 371 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: to the door, cup to the wall now. The Tabloat 372 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: also spoke to onlookers and one source told The Sun 373 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: you would never know the troubles they'd been through. They 374 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: looked like a normal couple. Tommy was very protective of 375 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: Molly and Bamby, and then nanny helped with the luggage. 376 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: Boarding the Emirates' flight, they took the fast track lane 377 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: and flew business class, but were recognized by other passengers. 378 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: I'd like to know on that situation, does the nanny 379 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: fly business class or her and Bambi backing coach. I'd 380 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: be guessing that she would fly business class. That they 381 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: would also want Bamby to be quite close to them, 382 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: and you know, receiving the same sort of luxury treatment. 383 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: Do you just put that automatic window up when you've 384 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: had enough of it? You're like God and so much 385 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: got that child on the plane? Isn't that your child? Now? 386 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: Tommy and Molly fueled rumors further by sharing matching snaps 387 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: on their luxury holiday. And this was by the time 388 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: that all of the tabloids had posted about it, so 389 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: I think they thought, well, fuck it, we may as 390 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: well post our nice photos. Yeah, even though it was 391 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: so obvious what was going on, we had to wait 392 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: for part two of Molly's docco series Behind it All 393 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: for her to confirm the news that we all knew. Yeah, 394 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: and fans were thrilled, But someone who wasn't thrilled was 395 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: her sister, Zoe Ray. She couldn't hide her true feelings, 396 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: so in the doco, Zoe shared her concerns directly with 397 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: her sister and also the world. So she was upfront 398 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: in saying that she didn't believe Tommy had resolved his 399 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: issues with alcohol, and she hoped that her sister would 400 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: make the right decision and feared their relationship would be 401 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: damaged if she got back with the boxer Now, Molly 402 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: conceded to the camera crew that navigating her relationship with 403 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: Zoe was the trickiest it had been. Well, it seems 404 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: like Zoe Ray's fears were quite valid because this year 405 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: we were blessed with having season two of Molly's docuseries drop, 406 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: and in it it doesn't seem like things are a 407 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: fairy tale between her and Tommy at all. In fact, 408 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: she said that she's got ongoing trust issues and was 409 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: haunted by the ghosts of the past, which it made 410 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: it seem like there was some sort of alleged infidelity there. 411 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: There was also this really tense exchange they ended up 412 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: airing between Molly and Tommy, and this was when Tommy 413 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: was about to go to his own doco premiere and 414 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: he was around all of his mates, and Molly told 415 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: the camera crew that she still feels uncomfortable when Tommy 416 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: is around alcohol, and she actually ended up hanging up 417 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: on Tommy during that phone call. Despite all of this, 418 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: over Christmas, the couple have been sharing picture perfect family content. 419 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: So it's funny because even though we know all the 420 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: ins and outs of their relationship and you know it 421 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: is a turbulent one, Molly has put her hands up 422 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: and said, yeah, that's correct. Molly still treats Instagram a 423 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: little bit like a millennial in the sense that her 424 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: feet is very curated and she puts her best foot 425 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: forward on that platform. Yeah. Her second installment of series 426 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: two is set to drop early twenty twenty six, so 427 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how the relationship fares and 428 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: how they decide to paint it. I cannot wait. Well, 429 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: that is where we are going to leave things today. 430 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: Next time we will be counting down the final top 431 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: stories of twenty twenty five and it's going to be 432 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: a good one. If you're looking for something to listen 433 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: to while all of your favorite podcasts are away except ours, 434 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: We're still here. 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