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Speaker 1: Christian O'Connell's show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Till the End of Time. This doesn't feel like the

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Speaker 2: right song for us to introduce our special guest this morning.

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Speaker 2: Carton coach Michael Voss, George Michael, father figure.

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Speaker 3: It's not exactly what you've played in the change room.

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Speaker 2: To play looking outside at the sunrise ag am I

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Speaker 2: on a late night show, Late night love show. Michael Voss,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much for coming in this morning.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure what sort of mood that got me in. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 4: that's good being here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, obviously we want to get you on. Obviously

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Speaker 2: it's a good luck this season as well, amazing run

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Speaker 2: last year and hopefully obviously better stuff for this year.

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Speaker 2: And as you're a coach and a former player, we're

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Speaker 2: doing this thing at the moment called Mini Motivators where

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Speaker 2: we're getting kids to record these pump up speeches for

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Speaker 2: their teams ahead of round one next week. So we

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Speaker 2: thought you get in before you listen to some Does

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Speaker 2: it make a difference right when a coach does a

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Speaker 2: really inspirational speech, say you're it's a three quarters as

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Speaker 2: you're losing, but you can win it back. Does can

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Speaker 2: that turn a game around?

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Speaker 4: My experience. Yes, it's not the only factor, but it

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Speaker 4: is a factor. So sometimes where the really powerful ones

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Speaker 4: come in is if they give a little bit of hope,

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Speaker 4: they give a little bit belief hope knowing when when

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Speaker 4: to use that. But then the other one is when

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Speaker 4: you sort of need a kicking the button, you sort

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Speaker 4: of need to be corrected a little bit and sort

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Speaker 4: of men up a little and and sort of get

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Speaker 4: on with the job. So I think the art of

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Speaker 4: being able to do a good speech, if you want

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Speaker 4: to call it, that, is actually knowing where the group

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Speaker 4: is and what they need to be able to make

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Speaker 4: a difference.

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Speaker 2: And can you still yell now? Or is that like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know that it's a different time. Now, you yelling

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Speaker 2: at anyone, you'll be on that You'll be a front

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Speaker 2: page of the Herald son as a yeller.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's you can yell with your head. I'm

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Speaker 4: just getting a bit nervous, don't yelling like that. Trying

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Speaker 4: to remember one of my one of the ones I

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Speaker 4: end of the game, and so it wasn't necessarily on

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Speaker 4: an inspirational speech. I clearly hadn't gone that well, and

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Speaker 4: you know, back in the day, it was about sort

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Speaker 3: Well, the coach would go around one on one.

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Speaker 4: One on one, and so the bad ones of the

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Speaker 4: character assassination so that you can raise your voice, but

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Speaker 4: if it could becomes personal when you sort of probably

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Speaker 4: stretches the line too far, but yeah, he sort of

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Speaker 4: looked at me and said, you know, VOSSI, you promise

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Speaker 4: a lot and you deliver very little. You come in

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Speaker 4: here with your hat on backwards, looking at your muscles

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Speaker 4: in the mirror, thinking you're pretty pretty good. You know.

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Speaker 4: You make sure you train on Wednesday Sun. And I

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Speaker 4: actually missed twelve weeks with the injure myself that day,

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Speaker 3: Feeling great about myself after no belief.

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Speaker 2: Or hoping that's hot to move forward with.

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Speaker 4: No, I didn't give me a lot of didn't give

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Speaker 4: me a lot other than a real massive correction. So

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Speaker 4: I had twelve weeks to think about it because I'd

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Speaker 4: it took me about ten weeks to get over it.

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Speaker 4: But look at it. It ultimately ended upheld me, but

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Speaker 2: And so where are the sort of motivation for the

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Speaker 2: team right now? Have you had those chats like in

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Speaker 2: January about what you want visualizations and all the sort

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Speaker 2: of mental process you can do now? Have you had

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Speaker 2: those chats? Is it more about just getting ready for

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Speaker 2: a round one next week and who you're playing?

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Speaker 4: No, I think that it's never one particular conversation. I

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you set your ambition, so you have to

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Speaker 4: have your hooks. I mean that's the important thing about

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Speaker 2: What's a hook?

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Speaker 2: You have a do you have a You must need

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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, yeah, and that constant reminder around why you

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Speaker 4: have yourself judged freely every single day.

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Speaker 3: So how do you remember whole team's hooks? Do you

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Speaker 3: have like minila folders.

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Speaker 2: With got I've got it, yeah, around your mirror in

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Speaker 2: the morning on post it notes all the various players.

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Speaker 4: I think my wife might be a little concerned if I've.

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Speaker 2: Got a.

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Speaker 3: Team members on the wall streams from.

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Speaker 2: One to the other, and you got that baseball cap

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Speaker 2: on back to front.

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Speaker 4: Again, that's a special room that goes downstairs and it's

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Speaker 2: Be Ceial Keller's lad. That's the players that don't play well.

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Speaker 2: All right, We're going to take a break for the

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Speaker 2: news when we come back with our guests this morning.

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Speaker 2: Then super coach Michael Voss, he's to listen to the

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Speaker 2: mini motivators. These are you super fans if you're under eighteen,

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Speaker 2: recording your messages pump up speech for your team. So

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Speaker 2: that's great ones to go through the Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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Speaker 2: He begins next Thursday night. Many motivators. We're asking any

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Speaker 2: kids super footy fans under eighteen to become a mini

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Speaker 2: motivator and motivate your team. Record a message for them

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Speaker 2: whenever we announcing the winner next Thursday, right on the

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Speaker 2: eve of round one and the prizes are shoes shacky boy?

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Speaker 2: What does the winner get?

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Speaker 3: A family membership to their club and one thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: to spend at the AFL store.

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Speaker 2: Now, I especially guesterday, I just about to hear some

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Speaker 2: be opening up next next Thursday night? Is Michael Vosstrom?

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Speaker 2: You've got another question about the box the coaches bonded.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Andy Lee from Hamish and Andy Huge super I

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Speaker 4: Well, I've I've always value his input. I just felt

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Speaker 3: Really thrown the mag around, so I said.

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Speaker 4: And I said, look mate, yeah that's probably a bit

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Speaker 4: been he's been fantastic, he said, massive supporter.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but I mean with the heaps of massive supporters

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Speaker 4: No, that's true. Now we do have we do have

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Speaker 4: some people that do come in. And yeah, I remember

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Speaker 4: And then I got out after the game. I said,

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Speaker 4: I needed to say something. I couldn't say anything.

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Speaker 3: It's like a hit in there. You guys have got

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Speaker 2: Turnobyl. Is it about to go? Is it going to be?

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Speaker 2: It looks so stressful.

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Speaker 4: But the important thing is just a really simple So

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Speaker 4: know why that happens. Everyone can still see you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we can't. We see you, see you throwing that

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Speaker 2: to listen to some of the we'd love your teat

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Speaker 2: so this is Hudson and he's a Lions fan.

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Speaker 5: Okay, lines, you can do this.

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Speaker 1: You're the best team ever.

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Speaker 5: You can win the flag, you can win the Cup,

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Speaker 5: and you're the best team ever, the best, best best

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Speaker 3: You would have heard that from Lee Matthews.

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Speaker 4: now I liked it. It had passion. It was some passion.

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Speaker 2: And then these are two brothers, mad North fans, their

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Speaker 1: Come on, Kangers, pull yourselves together. We've already lost one

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Speaker 1: brother to another club due your average performances over the.

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Speaker 3: Last three years.

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Speaker 1: Where's that shim bona spirit gone? Come on, Cagers, new coach,

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Speaker 1: new captains, new year, new attitude. Let's win that flag.

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Speaker 1: As Almodo says, victory demands dedication, up the money.

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Speaker 2: What do reckon all? That one?

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Speaker 4: A bit of pain and pleasure in that current last year,

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Speaker 4: and there was a little bit of both so to inspire.

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Speaker 4: I didn't mind a little bit of a hook at

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Speaker 4: the end. So no, there's there's plenty of passion in it.

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Speaker 2: Again, this is young Ryland, who's eight pints fan. Sadly already.

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Speaker 4: We're going to we need to train hard to get it.

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Speaker 2: Last year.

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Speaker 4: We didn't quite.

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Speaker 5: Make it last year, but we're going to make it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, maybe I'm playing harder in all your number ones.

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Speaker 2: I love that. Maybe I don't know, play harder? Would

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Speaker 2: it kill you?

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Speaker 4: I didn't think it was. I didn't think it was

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Speaker 4: a cute colling and supporter out there, But I don't

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Speaker 4: think we just found one. But no, it's that's that's

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Speaker 4: it's really really good. So I've gatined plenty of passion,

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Speaker 4: but there's lots of cuteness. Can you not follow that? Yeahsiration,

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Speaker 4: isn't it? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Now we've got a young blues fan here? All right,

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Speaker 2: so this could be someone who could be coming into

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Speaker 2: your locker room. This is from Evelin, who's seven Bossy Famous.

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Speaker 5: Okay, blue boys, we need to talk. Let's get real here.

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Speaker 2: Go celting Bossy's tearing up.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that level was brilliant. He just hit right in

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Speaker 4: I think you just went straight for the heart. So no,

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Speaker 2: For the mini motivators, what is it? More passion?

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Speaker 4: the players always helps.

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